Randle on pace for a 26/20

[sammichoffate]

:applause:

[Marchesk]

Thought Randle was terrible. :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Rookie of the year:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Nick Young]

Thought Randle was terrible. :confusedshrug:
No one who knows basketball would ever think that.

[LoneyROY7]

Rookie of the year:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

:yaohappy:

[WayOfWade]

Call me when the Lakers make the playoffs

[outbreak]

Thought Randle was terrible. :confusedshrug:
Well he was when he had WCS and Cousins defending him. Tonight he's got Nowitzki on him. Match up suits him which I think is what'll prevent him being a legit star. Driks also dropped 17pts on Randle and only missed one shot.

[SwishSquared]

Dirk's also shooting really well tonight. Maybe Randle should try to play some tougher D. Plus, reading from some people, it seems dude never passes.

I figured he'd be weak on D as a rookie (he basically is one) but I thought passing would be one of his better traits based on the vision he flashed @ Kentucky.

I know I'm being too rough on him. Hoping he pans out and has a long career. I think he can be the third best player on a title team but that's his ceiling to me.

[Nick Young]

Well he was when he had WCS and Cousins defending him. Tonight he's got Nowitzki on him. Match up suits him which I think is what'll prevent him being a legit star. Driks also dropped 17pts on Randle and only missed one shot.
It was his 2nd full NBA game ever vs Sac Town, you can't have judgements like that after 2 games XD

The dude is an amazing finisher.

They need to let him be first option, Kobe has to go in to Assitbe mode, and the team can be very good.

[Nick Young]

Dirk's also shooting really well tonight. Maybe Randle should try to play some tougher D. Plus, reading from some people, it seems dude never passes.

I figured he'd be weak on D as a rookie (he basically is one) but I thought passing would be one of his better traits based on the vision he flashed @ Kentucky.

I know I'm being too rough on him. Hoping he pans out and has a long career. I think he can be the third best player on a title team but that's his ceiling to me.
He is scoring at a higher percentage than anyone on the team so the coaches are probably telling him to be aggressive.

Dirk is one of the GOAT shooters in NBA history and shoots well vs everyone. Unfair to blame randle for one of the best shooters in NBA history going off on him.

[outbreak]

Dirk's also shooting really well tonight. Maybe Randle should try to play some tougher D. Plus, reading from some people, it seems dude never passes.

I figured he'd be weak on D as a rookie (he basically is one) but I thought passing would be one of his better traits based on the vision he flashed @ Kentucky.

I know I'm being too rough on him. Hoping he pans out and has a long career. I think he can be the third best player on a title team but that's his ceiling to me.
I see him as a guy who will offensively torch slower bigs but won't be able to contain them on d, if he comes up against smaller match ups like modern combo forwards or the uber athletic bigs they will torch him on offence and lock him down on defence.

[sammichoffate]

Dirk's also shooting really well tonight. Maybe Randle should try to play some tougher D. Plus, reading from some people, it seems dude never passes.

I figured he'd be weak on D as a rookie (he basically is one) but I thought passing would be one of his better traits based on the vision he flashed @ Kentucky.

I know I'm being too rough on him. Hoping he pans out and has a long career. I think he can be the third best player on a title team but that's his ceiling to me.His passing is actually decent, it can easily be improved. It's just his decision-making and defensive habits that need improvement, he has to pick his spots and not charge into the teeth of the defense.

[SwishSquared]

He is scoring at a higher percentage than anyone on the team so the coaches are probably telling him to be aggressive.

Dirk is one of the GOAT shooters in NBA history and shoots well vs everyone. Unfair to blame randle for one of the best shooters in NBA history going off on him.I understand that- if we're gonna applaud him for having a good game offensively and on the glass then I think we should be fair and critique his D. I'm honestly not a hater- I enjoyed watching him @ UK and felt bad for him when he got hurt in his 1st game.

Dirk's the GOAT shooting big man but he's also old now and can be slowed down to an extent.

Just trying to be objective about him.

[SwishSquared]

His passing is actually decent, it can easily be improved. It's just his decision-making and defensive habits that need improvement, he has to pick his spots and not charge into the teeth of the defense.I haven't been watching most of the Lakers action this year but I was reading some guys tweeting about the game (expert NBA guys) and they feel he gets tunnel vision when he barrels into the paint. He's got handles and a nice passing touch but it seems he's not seeing the floor as well as he did right from the gate like he did in college. Obviously pro ball is that much tougher so he'll need to adjust as part of his development. I expect him to get there but it'll take some time.

[DaOldLion]

Call me when the Lakers make the playoffs

call us when the HEAT win more titles in their entire history than the Lakers have won in the last 15 years

[Mike Armstrong]

"on pace" threads are dumb.

[SwishSquared]

I see him as a guy who will offensively torch slower bigs but won't be able to contain them on d, if he comes up against smaller match ups like modern combo forwards or the uber athletic bigs they will torch him on offence and lock him down on defence.I do see a problem with his lack of rim protection on D. He can realistically only play PF when considering both sides of the floor.

Like you said- I think his combo of strength and quickness will overpower certain matchups but I do think guys can score over him. He's quick so he should defend the PnR pretty well actually. I think he stay in front of some wings on D, especially non-elite ones, if opposing teams match him up with a SF. That might be the best way to play him though- try to draw charges on him when he goes bully ball mode.

Randle should be a good pro but building around him is kinda tricky. He either needs to learn how to shoot like Griffin did or needs a Marc Gasol-type C alongside him. Even then, it took a few years for BG's J to really come around.

[STATUTORY]

reminds me of a thicker Lebron

one of the true point forwards in recent years

[sammichoffate]

I haven't been watching most of the Lakers action this year but I was reading some guys tweeting about the game (expert NBA guys) and they feel he gets tunnel vision when he barrels into the paint. He's got handles and a nice passing touch but it seems he's not seeing the floor as well as he did right from the gate like he did in college. Obviously pro ball is that much tougher so he'll need to adjust as part of his development. I expect him to get there but it'll take some time.Yeah, definitely needs to improve on that. His court-feel and vision will allow him to facilitate offenses like Odom did when he was in LA. I just love how he rebounds the ball and just takes it coast to coast, it definitely helps with easy points while giving momentum.

[outbreak]

I do see a problem with his lack of rim protection on D. He can realistically only play PF when considering both sides of the floor.

Like you said- I think his combo of strength and quickness will overpower certain matchups but I do think guys can score over him. He's quick so he should defend the PnR pretty well actually. I think he stay in front of some wings on D, especially non-elite ones, if opposing teams match him up with a SF. That might be the best way to play him though- try to draw charges on him when he goes bully ball mode.

Randle should be a good pro but building around him is kinda tricky. He either needs to learn how to shoot like Griffin did or needs a Marc Gasol-type C alongside him. Even then, it took a few years for BG's J to really come around.
Yulp. don't get me wrong I think he could be decent but I just don't see him being a legit star for the above reasons. Handy mis match guy, second option but unless he has the perfect fit he looks like he has limitations that could be hard to over come. If it were my team I'd be thinking nice pick up but we still need a star. We'll see how it plays out though, regardless he's fun to watch when things go his way.

[Dave3]

17/12...not bad. It's not 28/14 like KAT, but not everyone can be KAT...

[sammichoffate]

Yulp. don't get me wrong I think he could be decent but I just don't see him being a legit star for the above reasons. Handy mis match guy, second option but unless he has the perfect fit he looks like he has limitations that could be hard to over come. If it were my team I'd be thinking nice pick up but we still need a star. We'll see how it plays out though, regardless he's fun to watch when things go his way.It'd be crazy if Russell and him became the next CP3/BG combo, that would be the best scenario though :(

[SwishSquared]

Yulp. don't get me wrong I think he could be decent but I just don't see him being a legit star for the above reasons. Handy mis match guy, second option but unless he has the perfect fit he looks like he has limitations that could be hard to over come. If it were my team I'd be thinking nice pick up but we still need a star. We'll see how it plays out though, regardless he's fun to watch when things go his way.That's a really fair way to evaluate him now. He can't be *the guy* you build around but he's a nice piece, or at least we seem to agree with each other on that. We both could be wrong 5 years from now lol.

Lakers still need to find the next superstar because I really don't think he's on this team yet.

I thought Russell would be a legit #2 option and potential star-level guy, which he still can, but nothing since the draft has made me feel confident about that prediction.

[ClipperRevival]

Randle was BY FAR the best player for the Lakers tonight. If he had played like the rest of the team, they would've lost by 30.

And oh yeah, Dirk got most of his points when Randle wasn't on him.

[sammichoffate]

22/15/4/4 on 9/17 shooting. He could have had more if he hit his FT's. What a beast :bowdown:

[Nick Young]

50% shooting, 20 poinds, 15 boards, 4 assists in his 3rd full NBA game ever:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SwishSquared]

Randle was BY FAR the best player for the Lakers tonight. If he had played like the rest of the team, they would've lost by 30.

And oh yeah, Dirk got most of his points when Randle wasn't on him.Who did Dirk honestly score on? Were there just a ton of switches? If so, gotta put that on Scott. If Dirk's killing you on switches then something needs to be done.

[sammichoffate]

Who did Dirk honestly score on? Were there just a ton of switches? If so, gotta put that on Scott. If Dirk's killing you on switches then something needs to be done.He shitted on the team mostly during the 3rd when Kelly was in, no surprise there. They kept switching the P&R with the 3 guards that were out there too :facepalm

[fsvr54]

Always had faith in this kid, he has talent and a motor, it's plain to see.

Saved my fantasy weekend too.

[ClipperRevival]

Who did Dirk honestly score on? Were there just a ton of switches? If so, gotta put that on Scott. If Dirk's killing you on switches then something needs to be done.

Swtich screens, off ball play, getting it off before the D is set. Our problem is we have incredibly slow footed players on the court that can't cover the court or play much D in Hibbert, Kobe and Russell and Lou and Young off the bench.

[Nick Young]

Who did Dirk honestly score on? Were there just a ton of switches? If so, gotta put that on Scott. If Dirk's killing you on switches then something needs to be done.
He didn't take many shots all game long, and was playing pass first. He got most of his baskets schooling Kelly or on switches IE Lou Williams guarding him in the low post

[SwishSquared]

I thought Dirk was 6/6 in the first half. Maybe I got my numbers wrong though.

It appears though that Tank Commanders Mitch & Byron are doing their jobs. Sorry Lakers fans. Looks to be a long year. Maybe you'll keep that top 3 protected pick bad. It's not all gloomy though.

Good news is bright spots like Randle will keep the year interesting/fun to follow.

[Sportal]

call us when the HEAT win more titles in their entire history than the Lakers have won in the last 15 years

Classic Lakers fan material. Stop living in 2010, brother.

[Magic 32]

Classic Lakers fan material. Stop living in 2010, brother.

If you can't live in the past how do we seperate the scub franchises from the good ones?

[dubeta]

Shame he has a garbage supporting cast

[Fudge]

20/10 monster. This team should easily make the playoffs.

[ukfan22]

if his midrange develops he can be a perennial all star

[DaOldLion]

Classic Lakers fan material. Stop living in 2010, brother.

I've celebrated more championship wins than you have finals appearances

stay mad

[Sportal]

If you can't live in the past how do we seperate the scub franchises from the good ones?

Perhaps by keeping it relative? Which is something the Lakers haven't been for half a decade.

[SwishSquared]

If you can't live in the past how do we seperate the scub franchises from the good ones?I understand that viewpoint but I think taking a relative view of a franchise over a shorter time period can be a better exercise to judge how good/bad a franchise is. You can evaluate the current coaching staff, medical team, front office leadership, roster, success in RS/postseason, etc. That's a pretty holistic, fair view of the current state of a franchise.

Look at where Golden State was 15 years ago and where it is today. Heck, even 5 years ago. Nobody considers GSW a garbage franchise nowadays.

[Spurs m8]

**** these are retarded threads, you're legit applauding something that hasn't happened, and probably won't happen, and in this case, once again, it didn't happen.

[sammichoffate]

**** these are retarded threads, you're legit applauding something that hasn't happened, and probably won't happen, and in this case, once again, it didn't happen.And you're mindlessly complaining like a little b****. What's your point?

[Magic 32]

Perhaps by keeping it relative? Which is something the Lakers haven't been for half a decade.

They got CP3 in 2011

They got Dwight in 2012

If you want to keep things real......then Lakers have been doing a bad job since they choose Mike D'Antoni over Phil Jackson.

That is 3 years ago almost to the day.

Between the summer of 2004 and the summer of 2007 the Lakers looked as incompetent as they do now.

They just don't have peak Kobe to cover it up.

I have seen worse.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Rookie of the year:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Is he not ineligible?

[sammichoffate]

Is he not ineligible?Yeah, he'll get MIP instead :pimp:

[Magic 32]

Yeah, he'll get MIP instead :pimp:

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http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg:cheers: