Speeding tickets are crap

[Heavincent]

Driving home from work last night, took a back road. Nobody's around, so I'm driving at a pretty natural speed. Not that fast or anything, just driving normally. I go down a hill and there's a ****ing cop waiting there. Dude pulls me over of course. What the ****? Don't you have anything better to do than be sitting in the middle of nowhere? :confusedshrug:

Good to see cops focusing on the important shit, like pulling over random civilians taking a leisurely drive through the country side, at night, with nobody around. JUSTICE :applause:

[nathanjizzle]

wait until they put speed cameras in your town. you get a ticket for driving at a natural speed.

[Draz]

I feel you. Every month my dad brings home tickets after tickets. Dumbass tickers too. Feds > Police

[Heavincent]

yup. they had these on all the freeways in az for awhile, used to get flashed all the time.......

thank god they took them down, scottsdale still has some cameras here and there tho.....

Taxpayer dollars getting put to good use.

[UK2K]

While it's annoying to get speeding tickets (I've had plenty) I also acknowledge that I am, in fact, breaking the law by speeding.

I know what the limit is.

I choose to exceed the limit.

I can't be mad at anyone but myself for being issued a ticket. If I really, really don't want a ticket, I probably wouldn't willingly be speeding.

At least, that's how I see it. ISH probably sees it very differently.

[riseagainst]

speeding tickets should be a warning, not be a punishment to get you into debt.
Those b1tches cost 250-300 a piece.....

:facepalm

[bigkingsfan]

Only ticket I ever got was after going down a hill, fk those traps.

[outbreak]

While it's annoying to get speeding tickets (I've had plenty) I also acknowledge that I am, in fact, breaking the law by speeding.

I know what the limit is.

I choose to exceed the limit.

I can't be mad at anyone but myself for being issued a ticket. If I really, really don't want a ticket, I probably wouldn't willingly be speeding.

At least, that's how I see it. ISH probably sees it very differently.

This.

When you know someone personally who was in a car accident caused by someone in the other vehicle speeding maybe you'll wake up and realise the police aren't just there to pick on you. Yeah when no one is around it's safe to speed and around here there's a bunch of roads that should have higher speed limits but at the end of the day you are breaking the law and it's there for a reason. I think of it like a few bad eggs ruining everything for everyone else, they'll keep the speed limit low because some people shouldn't be on the road and don't know how to drive safely at higher speeds.

[UK2K]

This.

When you know someone personally who was in a car accident caused by someone in the other vehicle speeding maybe you'll wake up and realise the police aren't just there to pick on you. Yeah when no one is around it's safe to speed and around here there's a bunch of roads that should have higher speed limits but at the end of the day you are breaking the law and it's there for a reason. I think of it like a few bad eggs ruining everything for everyone else, they'll keep the speed limit low because some people shouldn't be on the road and don't know how to drive safely at higher speeds.

Until there is someone around. Or you're speeding down one of your back roads and a deer jumps out, causing you to swerve into oncoming traffic and headbutt a semi truck.

That happened to my (at the time) girlfriend's best friend in high school. I still remember her mom calling my girlfriend, who was at my house. She was the passenger and was killed instantly. The driver (the one speeding) lived.

Everyone knows the law. You know if you have three beers before you drive home, you're driving illegally. Why does it make any sense to blame the cop for catching you?

[ballup]

Better to get speeding tickets than a wrecked car or getting someone killed

[aj1987]

This.

When you know someone personally who was in a car accident caused by someone in the other vehicle speeding maybe you'll wake up and realise the police aren't just there to pick on you. Yeah when no one is around it's safe to speed and around here there's a bunch of roads that should have higher speed limits but at the end of the day you are breaking the law and it's there for a reason. I think of it like a few bad eggs ruining everything for everyone else, they'll keep the speed limit low because some people shouldn't be on the road and don't know how to drive safely at higher speeds.
I'm just posting the summary:

Summary of the effects of no daytime speed limits:
1. Fatal accident rates on these highways reached an all time low in modern times.

2. On 2 lane highways with no posted limits the frequency of multiple vehicle accidents dropped 5 percent.

3. Seat belt usage is up to 91% percent, with only a secondary enforcement law.

4. Posted limits and their enforcement, had either no or a negative effect on traffic safety.

5. As predicted by the engineering models, traffic speeds did not significantly change and remained consistent with other western states with like conditions.

6. The people of Montana and its visitors continued to drive at speeds they were comfortable with, which were often speeds lower than their counter parts on high density urban freeways* with low posted limits.

7. The theory behind posting speed limits on these classifications of highway is to reduce conflicts in traffic flow (caused by speed differential), thereby reducing accidents. On the two lane highways flow conflict accidents (multiple vehicle) decreased when the limits were removed. When added to the Autobahn results and the no change found on Montana’s Interstates, this thesis needs to be rethought because the field data on highways without posted limits doesn’t support it. With the expectation of higher speed differentials, multiple vehicle accident rates declined even when the actual speeds did not change significantly. This suggests the changes are the result of positive motorists behavior (courtesy and due caution).

8. In traffic engineering findings the vehicles traveling faster than average have the lowest accident rates, yet they are the primary targets of speed enforcement. To this we can now add, with speed limits there was no positive correlation between speed enforcement and accident rates on rural free flowing highways, if anything, the highways became less safe.

MONTANA PARADOX: Is that the desired safety effect from posting speed limits was achieved by removing them.

Followup Footnote: At the end of 2001, a year after Montana implemented its new NHTSA backed and sponsored enforcement program, fatalities increased significantly. Now another year of data is in (2002), Montana just recorded a 20 year high in fatal accidents.

https://www.motorists.org/press/montana-no-speed-limit-safety-paradox/

"With artificially low speed limits we put police in a position of actually ticketing safe drivers," Lt. Gary Megge of the Michigan State Police Traffic Services told The Detroit Free Press. He's pushing for Jones' bill.

Will higher speed limits make us less safe? After New York raised the limit on its highway traffic to 65 mph in 1995, the state's total crash rate dropped by 4 percent. In 2000, the Automobile Club of Southern California determined that higher speed limits in that state did not increase the rate of statewide accidents over a period of five years. Additionally, traffic fatalities as a percentage of miles traveled dropped sharply after the repeal of the 55 mph rule.


http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/04/higher-speed-limit-safer/


I also remember watching an episode of Top Gear in which Clarkson said that a study conducted in the UK showed that a section of motorway, where speeding limits were removed, had a significant reduction in accidents.

[outbreak]

[QUOTE=aj1987]I'm just posting the summary:

Summary of the effects of no daytime speed limits:
1. Fatal accident rates on these highways reached an all time low in modern times.

2. On 2 lane highways with no posted limits the frequency of multiple vehicle accidents dropped 5 percent.

3. Seat belt usage is up to 91% percent, with only a secondary enforcement law.

4. Posted limits and their enforcement, had either no or a negative effect on traffic safety.

5. As predicted by the engineering models, traffic speeds did not significantly change and remained consistent with other western states with like conditions.

6. The people of Montana and its visitors continued to drive at speeds they were comfortable with, which were often speeds lower than their counter parts on high density urban freeways* with low posted limits.

7. The theory behind posting speed limits on these classifications of highway is to reduce conflicts in traffic flow (caused by speed differential), thereby reducing accidents. On the two lane highways flow conflict accidents (multiple vehicle) decreased when the limits were removed. When added to the Autobahn results and the no change found on Montana

[outbreak]

Until there is someone around. Or you're speeding down one of your back roads and a deer jumps out, causing you to swerve into oncoming traffic and headbutt a semi truck.

That happened to my (at the time) girlfriend's best friend in high school. I still remember her mom calling my girlfriend, who was at my house. She was the passenger and was killed instantly. The driver (the one speeding) lived.

Everyone knows the law. You know if you have three beers before you drive home, you're driving illegally. Why does it make any sense to blame the cop for catching you?

Yeah that's true but I'm assuming the OP wasn't going double the speed limit or anything too fast. Usually if someone is complaining it's because they were only a tiny bit over and with how the speed limits keep dropping here it's probably still safe but yeah I agree if you get done for it it's too bad you broke the law you pay up and can't complain. I do know a lot of people who are over confident in their driving skills, one guy in particular who thinks he knows everything about cars and calls people dickheads for going double the limit and losing their licence then he will brag about doing the same shit but when you bring it up here always says he is a really good driver though.

[Mike Armstrong]

Driving home from work last night, took a back road. Nobody's around, so I'm driving at a pretty natural speed. Not that fast or anything, just driving normally. I go down a hill and there's a ****ing cop waiting there. Dude pulls me over of course. What the ****? Don't you have anything better to do than be sitting in the middle of nowhere? :confusedshrug:

Good to see cops focusing on the important shit, like pulling over random civilians taking a leisurely drive through the country side, at night, with nobody around. JUSTICE :applause:

If you were surprised to see the cop, you could have been surprised by somebody walking on foot and BAM! They're dead.

[bballnoob1192]

right turn without stopping during no traffic or left turn light is the stupidest ticket of all time.

[Bosnian Sajo]

speeding tickets should be a warning, not be a punishment to get you into debt.
Those b1tches cost 250-300 a piece.....

:facepalm

If a speeding ticket puts you in debt...idk what to tell you :facepalm

[poido123]

Happens here in Australia too.


Government use the "speeding kills" veil to raise revenue.


It's not speeding that kills, it's bad drivers with little experience or poor hand eye coordination.


I know a racing car driver going at 200 km per hour will have less crashes than another motorist who has poor hand eye coordination.


Speeding can contribute to crashes, but we are talking about the average motorist being caught going maybe 10-30 miles over the limit.

[The Valley]

This summer I got a ticket for going 50 in a 30 mph zone that honestly should have been 45, 40 at the absolute least. There's so many small towns in America that put ridiculous speed limits on certain streets and just have cops hang out there 24/7 so they can get revenue to support the city.

Any cop that patrols streets like that as a profession is a piece of shit and won't earn an ounce of sympathy from me if they die a slow and painful death.

[UK2K]

:wtf:
Happens here in Australia too.


Government use the "speeding kills" veil to raise revenue.


It's not speeding that kills, it's bad drivers with little experience or poor hand eye coordination.


I know a racing car driver going at 200 km per hour will have less crashes than another motorist who has poor hand eye coordination.


Speeding can contribute to crashes, but we are talking about the average motorist being caught going maybe 10-30 miles over the limit.

The stopping distance between 55 mph and 70 mph is about 120 feet, all things remaining constant.

It's not the speeding that causes the crashes (normally), its the driver not paying attention, and not having time to stop in the event of some sort of obstruction in the road.

120 feet is a big, big difference.

[chosen_one6]

Speeding tickets are an easy way for your auto insurance rate to jump up too. I work for a large insurance company and it's insane how many stupid drivers there are out there.

[CeltsGarlic]

Fast doesnt necessarily mean uncareful.