Drummond will be easily nullified when the scouting report leaks

[The_Yearning]

Dude can't shoot a free throw to save his life. He's as bad as DeAndre so there's that.

Need to learn to shoot free throws.

[ThatCoolKid]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

[LoneyROY7]

Yeah, b/c I'm sure no NBA head coach is aware of that. :oldlol:

[deja vu]

Hack-a-Drum? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

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[HiphopRelated]

Just like with Whiteside, he does things you can't really "scout" beyond throwing a second defender at him which will just open somebody else.

[ZMonkey11]

What's the scouting report going to do? Hack-a-Drummond?

There are maybe 3 centers in this league that can come close to containing his size, speed, and strength. So what can you do there? Double box him out every play?

There are almost no set plays run for him. How do you game plan for offensive rebounds? Put more bigs out, then have problems with the stretch 4?

I don't see how you gameplan for someone that is bigger, faster, stronger than the other teams bigs and doesn't have a game to take away. It's put backs, pick and rolls, and the ocassional dump (in which his right hook is looking preeeeetttyyyy).

So yea...easily nullified coach. Easily.

[HurricaneKid]

The reason no other 7' behemoths in in the NBA is because they can't defend in space. Teams just need to put him in the PnR at 24ft and punish him. He is lucky they only play GSW twice. Curry put DJ into the spinner but good last week. And DJ moves better than Drum does.

And he shot 28% from the line in college.

[Xiao Yao You]

What's the scouting report going to do? Hack-a-Drummond?

There are maybe 3 centers in this league that can come close to containing his size, speed, and strength. So what can you do there? Double box him out every play?

Gobert contained him to open the year. He actually hit free throws in that one but otherwise didn't really impress me but Hibbert was the only one able to do anything against Rudy a year ago so I didn't expect him to.

[Rake2204]

Gobert contained him to open the year. He actually hit free throws in that one but otherwise didn't really impress me but Hibbert was the only one able to do anything against Rudy a year ago so I didn't expect him to.Interestingly, that Jazz game was one of the first times I ever saw Drummond set out to physically and successfully bully an opposing center in the post. Drummond's back-to-the-basket game is still in its infancy, so in the past he's tended to settle for garbage from wherever he caught the ball (resulting in terrible 10 foot hooks).

But against Gobert, it was like he suddenly realized he was 285 pounds, and he just bulldozed Rudy like a rag doll on a few plays inside (resulting in 11 non-Hack-a-Drummond trips to the line).

Don't get me wrong though, I like Gobert. He's a freak out there.

[Sarcastic]

Yea I'm expecting 0/0/0 games from here on out when the advanced NBA defenses sink their teeth in him. They'll just play zone on him. He'll be lucky if he even sees a pass again this year.

[IGOTGAME]

The reason no other 7' behemoths in in the NBA is because they can't defend in space. Teams just need to put him in the PnR at 24ft and punish him. He is lucky they only play GSW twice. Curry put DJ into the spinner but good last week. And DJ moves better than Drum does.

And he shot 28% from the line in college.

Or because athletic freaks like Drummond aren't in abundance. And Curry Estes up every big in the league off lick and roll. Doesn't mean Dummond will be less effective. A good pick and roll coverage would be hard hedge with Drummond and see how curry handles that u we athletic trap.

[SexSymbol]

It's not hard to stop him strategically, it's the effort thing that stops teams from stoping him.
He's not polished offensively, you can stop him with smart help defenses and good reaction.
You can stop his rebounding with good effort on boxing out.
The effort is the problem with 95 percent of NBA players, they're too tired to box out correctly or in time and they get putbacks, and Drummond, a guy who puts effort in just destroys them.
He wouldn't be able to average 20-20 in the finals no matter against who, because the intensity is completely different is what I'm saying.

[BarberSchool]

Nullified is just stupid to say. His numbers will go down, yes, but he wont be nullified.

[BarberSchool]

The reason no other 7' behemoths in in the NBA is because they can't defend in space. Teams just need to put him in the PnR at 24ft and punish him. He is lucky they only play GSW twice. Curry put DJ into the spinner but good last week. And DJ moves better than Drum does.

And he shot 28% from the line in college.Curry did absolutely torch Deandre Jordan, and it's like Deandre just didn't learn. he kept on staying back and Curry was practically LOL'ing at how bad DeAndre was defending the pick and roll. Whole Clippers squad was frustrated with DeAndre.

[BarberSchool]

There are almost no set plays run for him. How do you game plan for offensive rebounds? Put more bigs out, then have problems with the stretch 4?
Ersan Ilyasova will get more minutes if this happens, and his 3pt shooting and perimeter passing will be on display soon thereafter.

[FKAri]

Curry did absolutely torch Deandre Jordan, and it's like Deandre just didn't learn. he kept on staying back and Curry was practically LOL'ing at how bad DeAndre was defending the pick and roll. Whole Clippers squad was frustrated with DeAndre.

dat DPOY doe. What a fkin joke. Nigguh ain't even a moderate defender.

[Pointguard]

What's the scouting report going to do? Hack-a-Drummond?

There are maybe 3 centers in this league that can come close to containing his size, speed, and strength. So what can you do there? Double box him out every play?

There are almost no set plays run for him. How do you game plan for offensive rebounds? Put more bigs out, then have problems with the stretch 4?

I don't see how you gameplan for someone that is bigger, faster, stronger than the other teams bigs and doesn't have a game to take away. It's put backs, pick and rolls, and the ocassional dump (in which his right hook is looking preeeeetttyyyy).

Good points.

Only deep teams can afford to foul a lot, but if they put in scrubs to foul him he's going to kill them on the offensive boards. Its a real trade off with him but somebody is going to try it.

[TrueBlue89]

Damn they locked this ninja up tonight. Props to OP, Green/Ezeli/Bogut and Walton :applause:

[Funktion]

Lol Drummonds getting worked when he has the ball

[plowking]

Still a quarter to go... and he is pretty much on a double-double his next basket. Hardly locked him up.

[plowking]

10/12 with two blocks and two steals. A few more rebounds and points and he is statistically playing to his averages. None of us expect him to keep up the 20/20 pace anyway, so a 18/18 game isn't really shutting him down either.

[oarabbus]

He played fine. Keep in mind he played against the best team in the NBA.

[Rake2204]

Lol Drummonds getting worked when he has the ballYep, really threw him for a loop. His back-to-the-basket game was virtually non-existent when he came into the league a few years ago. So he seems to be slowly adding things piece-by-piece. The jump hook is finally beginning to look good sometimes but in turn, he has no idea how to handle more than one defender harassing him down low in that position.

I'm encouraged by the development I've seen though. Leads me to believe he's capable to picking up those new wrinkles as well (i.e. handling double teams).

[Funktion]

Yep, really threw him for a loop. His back-to-the-basket game was virtually non-existent when he came into the league a few years ago. So he seems to be slowly adding things piece-by-piece. The jump hook is finally beginning to look good sometimes but in turn, he has no idea how to handle more than one defender harassing him down low in that position.

I'm encouraged by the development I've seen though. Leads me to believe he's capable to picking up those new wrinkles as well (i.e. handling double teams).

Yes he's been quite impressive and you can tell he's putting in work.

[HurricaneKid]

Curry did absolutely torch Deandre Jordan, and it's like Deandre just didn't learn. he kept on staying back and Curry was practically LOL'ing at how bad DeAndre was defending the pick and roll. Whole Clippers squad was frustrated with DeAndre.

Its not that he didn't know. Its that he isn't capable of defending Curry in space. So when he did actually come out Curry would just jab step and DJ would collapse back opening a wideopen stepback 3.

In Ewing's day no one could shoot stepback 3s at a rate that would destroy teams. THIS is the difference between today and 20 years ago. 3 point shooting pulls defenders out to the perimeter that have no business being there. This is why Hibbert's usefulness has been destroyed. He is great at the rim (when he can feign verticality) but he has no chance in space. The bigs of yesteryear (save DRob and probably Dream) would have no chance in today's game. Even Shaq would be destroyed by this action now, though putting Draymond and the like on him would be punished pretty badly.

And asking a big to hedge 25 feet away is no small ask. VERY few defenders can.