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NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 07:45 AM
1.steph curry
2.larry bird
3.steve nash
4.dirk nowitski
5.kevin durant.

Any objections??

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 07:49 AM
Steve Nash is number 2 and arguably number 1

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 07:53 AM
Steve Nash is number 2 and arguably number 1

I put larry over nash based on the triple 3 point contest winner and the clutchness efficiency with volume. Nash was great and very efficient. But he was no where near the number 1 scoring threat bird was.

Genaro
11-09-2015, 07:55 AM
Ray Allen?

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 07:56 AM
Depends on what we mean by Best shooter

Because Nash from a percentages stand point, is the best overall shooter from anywhere on the court...

ArbitraryWater
11-09-2015, 07:59 AM
Yeah, put Dirk at 1.

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 07:59 AM
Ray Allen?

Hes more known for his 3 pointer and his clutchness. But he doesnt really slay it from all over the place like the other guys. I would put him 6th though

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:01 AM
If you only look at his time in phoenix, Nash's %s all over the court is insane

44% from 3
50% from 16ft+
49% from 10-16ft
49% from 3-10ft
68% from 0-3ft

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:02 AM
Depends on what we mean by Best shooter

Because Nash from a percentages stand point, is the best overall shooter from anywhere on the court...

Yeah. Its difficult to say because he has the lowest volume out of all of them. His effieciency was great. But how much of that was actual shooting ability and how much was his IQ and shot selection. Bird and curry. Are number 1 scoring option any manage to put up great number despite being heavily guarded and the percentages they put up on the amount they shoot is insane.

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:04 AM
Nash was also assisted on his makes considerably less than Curry

2pt FG: .101
3pt FG: .426

Curry

2pt FG: .272
3pt FG: .620

It's not like Nash was taking the easiest shots, clearly evident by this

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:05 AM
If you only look at his time in phoenix, Nash's %s all over the court is insane

44% from 3
50% from 16ft+
49% from 10-16ft
49% from 3-10ft
68% from 0-3ft

:bowdown: epic efficiency and what you would expect from and intelligent pass first point guard. but i still believe bird and curry are better shooters.

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:09 AM
Nash was also assisted on his makes considerably less than Curry

2pt FG: .101
3pt FG: .426

Curry

2pt FG: .272
3pt FG: .620

It's not like Nash was taking the easiest shots, clearly evident by this

Volume and shot selection.
Nash = smarter shooter.
Curry = better shooter.

IMO
He smashed the 3 point record in a season twice and the 2nd time he led the team to the 1st seed in a very tough western conference (so it was very effective and he didnt just chuck them) hes also on his way to smashing it again

ArbitraryWater
11-09-2015, 08:11 AM
If you only look at his time in phoenix, Nash's %s all over the court is insane

44% from 3
50% from 16ft+
49% from 10-16ft
49% from 3-10ft
68% from 0-3ft

16+ is 16-23 right?

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:11 AM
Nash shot alot of threes off the pick. And catches alot of defenders off guard when they think hes gonna pass.

Players can be fully aware that curry is gonna shoot it in their faces and still not be able to do anything about it. Hes that good.

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 08:14 AM
Nash picked his spots differently. Curry's at a point where past the half-court line, you have to automatically start thinking about where and when he's going to launch a 3, and his shot is so fast that's going to consume the defender's thoughts.

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:14 AM
I just think people overrate Bird as a shooter and underrate Nash as one

He shot his best 3pt %s when he took the most amounts

47% on 4.7 attempts, while only getting assisted on .425 of threes

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:18 AM
He's an all time great 3pt shooter, obviously not as good as Curry (Nobody is)

But Nash by the numbers is a better shooter from pretty much every other distance

I understand the volume concern, but Nash shot the best % wise from every area on the court, when he scored the most points

The whole volume/efficiency thing I do understand, but you have to take into account team roles... Nash had to facilitate an entire offense and get others going

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:20 AM
Nash picked his spots differently. Curry's at a point where past the half-court line, you have to automatically start thinking about where and when he's going to launch a 3, and his shot is so fast that's going to consume the defender's thoughts.

This. You have to take in consideration how much of nash efficiency is attributed to his ability to pick his shots. The man was great at it. Wether he was assisted on or created it.

When you are the best dam passer in the league as nash was. And a pass first guy defenders will be concentrated alot on team defense and wont over commit to defending your shot. Nash knew this very well. Yes i know he had a great shot no doubt. But he never got swarmed and shot defended like bird or curry did/does.

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:29 AM
Nash in the 05 playoffs averaged 24/11 and shot 56% from midrange while taking .227 of his shots there

Curry is the better 3pt shooter
Nash is the better midrange shooter

Gileraracer
11-09-2015, 08:33 AM
Larry Bird averaged 29.9PPG in 87-88 while shooting .556 / .414 / .916

crazy efficiency with high volume whereas Steve Nash never averaged more than 18.8 with similiar numbers (.548 / .439 / .921)

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:36 AM
Nash in the 05 playoffs averaged 24/11 and shot 56% from midrange while taking .227 of his shots there

Curry is the better 3pt shooter
Nash is the better midrange shooter

And the theoretically the further you are from the basket the harder it is to make the shot??

Thus making curry the better shooter??

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:37 AM
And the theoretically the further you are from the basket the harder it is to make the shot??

Thus making curry the better shooter??
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?

Nash is simply a better midrange shooter

feyki
11-09-2015, 08:40 AM
1.steph curry
2.larry bird
3.steve nash
4.dirk nowitski
5.kevin durant.

Any objections??

Curry
Jerry West
Dirk
Nash
Bird

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:41 AM
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?

Nash is simply a better midrange shooter

You could say that. But curry is still the better overall shooter.

If curry and bird had the passing ability of nash and the highly effective shot selection with a similar level of volume. I seriously believe they would have higher percentgaes.

The percentages they have with the shots they take and the volume is just downright incredible.

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:42 AM
Curry
Jerry West
Dirk
Nash
Bird

I dnt knw enough history to rate jerry west sorry.

BigTicket
11-09-2015, 08:44 AM
Bird is overrated as a pure shooter. You could make a case that he is top 5 overall, but he's not top 5 as a shooter.

649 career 3's on 37.6% shooting is not that impressive.

NZStreetBaller
11-09-2015, 08:45 AM
Like i said. Imo the numbers nash has are a result of being the 3rd greatest shooter in the history of the game and shot selection plus hus passing threat allows him a little bit more offensive freedom.

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 08:48 AM
Overrated: Bird (3pt %s were pedestrian)
Underated: Nash (gets looked over due to lack of volume, despite all evidence showing great shooting when higher scoring volume)

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 08:50 AM
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?

Nash is simply a better midrange shooter

You have to account for volume, whether it be of his own creativity or assisted Curry is giving you 6 more points than Nash( right now 15, but he's not going to maintain a 33ppg avg as the season goes) with half his shots being a tougher shot( the 3). Curry's ability to hit the kind of 3's he does off the dribble, highly contested with that volume while maintaining accuracy, is the evolution of what Nash did.

Finally, I think the threat of Nash's passing ability is what set up alot of his scoring, and its the inverse for Curry.

pauk
11-09-2015, 09:04 AM
Drazen Petrovic
Reggie Miller
Larry Bird
Ray Allen
Chris Mullin / Glen Rice

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 09:07 AM
You have to account for volume, whether it be of his own creativity or assisted Curry is giving you 6 more points than Nash( right now 15, but he's not going to maintain a 33ppg avg as the season goes) with half his shots being a tougher shot( the 3). Curry's ability to hit the kind of 3's he does off the dribble, highly contested with that volume while maintaining accuracy, is the evolution of what Nash did.

Finally, I think the threat of Nash's passing ability is what set up alot of his scoring, and its the inverse for Curry.
Nash is a better mid range shooter

All the evidence supports this

He shoots it at a higher volume, and hits it at a better %

He gets assisted on his shots significantly less

feyki
11-09-2015, 09:15 AM
I dnt knw enough history to rate jerry west sorry.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L78v25cinYI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu5vMfPtbw

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 09:28 AM
Nash is a better mid range shooter

All the evidence supports this

He shoots it at a higher volume, and hits it at a better %

He gets assisted on his shots significantly less

And all the evidence shows that Curry is a better 3 point shooter. So that particular argument is becoming circular. The eye-test shows that Curry manufactures long-range shots off his own dribble in a way that Nash never did, while maintaining incredible volume and accuracy. Curry is simply a more dangerous scorer and prolific overall shooter.

SexSymbol
11-09-2015, 09:36 AM
1.Curry
2.Nash
3.Allen
4.KD
5.Dirk

ralph_i_el
11-09-2015, 09:45 AM
Nash was also assisted on his makes considerably less than Curry

2pt FG: .101
3pt FG: .426

Curry

2pt FG: .272
3pt FG: .620

It's not like Nash was taking the easiest shots, clearly evident by this

But he was taking far fewer shots.

GIF REACTION
11-09-2015, 09:49 AM
But he was taking far fewer shots.
What's your point?

Nash shot his best % wise when he took the most shots in his career

We can play hypotheticals all day but the volume/efficiency spectrum isn't so cut and dry with a shooter of Nash's quality

StephHamann
11-09-2015, 10:04 AM
1.steph curry
2.larry bird
3.steve nash
4.dirk nowitski
5.kevin durant.

Any objections??

You can't even spell the name of a top 15 of all time player :facepalm

other than that, replace Durant with Ray Allen and the list is legit :applause:

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 10:52 AM
What's your point?

Nash shot his best % wise when he took the most shots in his career

We can play hypotheticals all day but the volume/efficiency spectrum isn't so cut and dry with a shooter of Nash's quality

Nash's percentages spiked right after 2004, when the rules changed. I don't see how that can be ignored when talking about his percentages suddenly spiking at 31 years old. He was a great player, but to me he is also the most obvious case of how the new rules allowing for more offensive freedom on the perimeter, and being in that Suns offense, boasted him as a player. And with that said, Curry is giving you the same 3point percentages on twice the volume, and being defended pretty much from the time he hits half-court as a legitimate high volume offensive threat.

24-Inch_Chrome
11-09-2015, 10:56 AM
Nash/Bird/Curry/Allen/Miller, no order.

ShaqTwizzle
11-09-2015, 11:00 AM
1. Wilt
2. Curry
3. Miller
4. Dirk
5. Allen

keep-itreal
11-09-2015, 11:06 AM
1. Stephen Curry

feyki
11-09-2015, 11:14 AM
1. Wilt
2. Curry
3. Miller
4. Dirk
5. Allen



http://i.imghub.co/qdOOO.jpg

!@#$%Vectors!@#
11-09-2015, 11:43 AM
1. Wilt
2. Curry
3. Miller
4. Dirk
5. Allen

CavsFTW spotted

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Dr Hawk
11-09-2015, 11:58 AM
1. Nash
2. Bird/Curry
3. Curry/Bird
4. Dirk
5. Allen

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 12:02 PM
Considering OVERALL shooting, I'mma go with this top10 in no PARTICULAR order...

Stephen Curry
Larry Bird
Ray Allen
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Kevin Durant
Reggie Miller
Dale Ellis
Jerry West
Mark Price

Top5 for me, in no particular order again, would probably be Ray-Ray, Bird, Steph, Durant and Dirk/Nash, with Reggie very closely below.

fandarko
11-09-2015, 12:10 PM
Considering OVERALL shooting, I'mma go with this top10 in no PARTICULAR order...

Stephen Curry
Larry Bird
Ray Allen
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Kevin Durant
Reggie Miller
Dale Ellis
Jerry West
Mark Price

Top5 for me, in no particular order again, would probably be Ray-Ray, Bird, Steph, Durant and Dirk/Nash, with Reggie very closely below.
I think Peja Stojakovic should be in the discussion. He's not less a shooter than anyone on this list (won the 3 pt competiton twice, among other things).

SamuraiSWISH
11-09-2015, 12:29 PM
Steph Curry
Jerry West
Drazen Petrovic
Larry Bird
Chris Mullin
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Mark Price
Reggie Miller
Glen Rice
Kevin Durant
Dan Majerle
Rex Chapman

Specialists:
Chuck Person
Dale Ellis
Steve Kerr
Kyle Korver
Craig Hodges
Jason Kapono
Del Curry

BTW the vast overwhelming majority of these dudes are white ... or in Curry's case, mixed. Any coincidence?

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 12:37 PM
Bird is overrated as a pure shooter. You could make a case that he is top 5 overall, but he's not top 5 as a shooter.

649 career 3's on 37.6% shooting is not that impressive.

I didn't know that SHOOTING was strictly 3PT SHOOTING :rolleyes: Must be me though :rolleyes:

1st of all, Larry didn't grow up with the 3pt-line (only "seeing" it 1st in his 1st NBA season) nor did he played in 3pt era...

Despite all of that, he still made the 3pt-shot a great weapon in his arsenal, showing lots of range, displaying he could do it contested or off the dribble, hitting a lot of them in the clutch, using it to make teams pay...

Bird's 3pt-shooting percentages actually went HIGHER as his attempts INCREASED.

His 1st coach, Bill Fitch, didn't emphasize the shot and ran very little plays towards it.
In Bird's rookie season (and 1st time playing with the 3pt-line) he shot 40.6% on 1.7 attempts... Then for the next 4 seasons he didn't even break 1 attempt per game (mostly doing it at the end of the clock and such), shooting less than 30% from 3, for any of those 4 seasons... As he attempted more than 1.5 3's per game again, he went back to shooting 40+%, then with coach KC Jones who "let" Bird do it and ran plays for it... And afterwards he only shot below 40% twice out of 7 seasons, when he was a shell of his former self.

Oh, not to mention that he even had to somewhat adjust his shooting mechanics just prior to entering the NBA... He suffered a severe injury on his right-hand finger before his first pro-season, even leaving it crooked permanently.

Bird could shoot it from anywhere in any way, even able to use his left-hand extremely well from close range.
In his prime, dude was a killer from mid-range in any single way, he had some of the best floaters ever, shot it extremely well from the post, unreal soft-touch, great from 3pt-land, reached 90+% from the FT-line on 6 attempts per game, clutch af... As complete and as great of a shooter as it ever was.

He STILL has the highest PPG average out of any 50/40/90 season.

Larry won 3 3pt contests in a row, he's still 3rd all-time in most consecutive shots made in it, still 5th in most points in the final round (WITHOUT the money-ball racket).

From 1985 til 1988, in 4 combined seasons... He averaged 28.1 PPG on 51.7 / 41.4 / 90.1 shooting :bowdown:

He lead the league in FT% 4 times. Was twice the leader in 3pt's made, both times being 4th in PPG.

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjcGLGM3emE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-OSlNiOjo
:rolleyes:

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 12:38 PM
I think Peja Stojakovic should be in the discussion. He's not less a shooter than anyone on this list (won the 3 pt competiton twice, among other things).

Yea, I was torn between him, Price and Ellis... But ultimately went with the latter two.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-09-2015, 12:39 PM
Steph Curry
Jerry West
Drazen Petrovic
Larry Bird
Chris Mullin
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Mark Price
Reggie Miller
Glen Rice
Kevin Durant
Dan Majerle
Rex Chapman

Specialists:
Chuck Person
Dale Ellis
Steve Kerr
Kyle Korver
Craig Hodges
Jason Kapono
Del Curry

BTW the vast overwhelming majority of these dudes are white ... or in Curry's case, mixed. Any coincidence?

Ray-Ray AKA Jesus himself didn't make the cut? :biggums:

Good stuff overall though. Not sure I would list Dale Ellis as a "specialist", as he was a pretty good scorer in the 80s (had a really good midrange game and was nice in the post). Flipping him with either Rex Chapman and/or Dan Majerle would make a little more sense.

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 12:41 PM
I didn't know that SHOOTING was strictly 3PT SHOOTING :rolleyes: Must be me though :rolleyes:

1st of all, Larry didn't grow up with the 3pt-line (only "seeing" it 1st in his 1st NBA season) nor did he played in 3pt era...

Despite all of that, he still made the 3pt-shot a great weapon in his arsenal, showing lots of range, displaying he could do it contested or off the dribble, hitting a lot of them in the clutch, using it to make teams pay...

Bird's 3pt-shooting percentages actually went HIGHER as his attempts INCREASED.

His 1st coach, Bill Fitch, didn't emphasize the shot and ran very little plays towards it.
In Bird's rookie season (and 1st time playing with the 3pt-line) he shot 40.6% on 1.7 attempts... Then for the next 4 seasons he didn't even break 1 attempt per game (mostly doing it at the end of the clock and such), shooting less than 30% from 3, for any of those 4 seasons... As he attempted more than 1.5 3's per game again, he went back to shooting 40+%, then with coach KC Jones who "let" Bird do it and ran plays for it... And afterwards he only shot below 40% twice out of 7 seasons, when he was a shell of his former self.

Oh, not to mention that he even had to somewhat adjust his shooting mechanics just prior to entering the NBA... He suffered a severe injury on his right-hand finger before his first pro-season, even leaving it crooked permanently.

Bird could shoot it from anywhere in any way, even able to use his left-hand extremely well from close range.
In his prime, dude was a killer from mid-range in any single way, he had some of the best floaters ever, shot it extremely well from the post, unreal soft-touch, great from 3pt-land, reached 90+% from the FT-line on 6 attempts per game, clutch af... As complete and as great of a shooter as it ever was.

He STILL has the highest PPG average out of any 50/40/90 season.

Larry won 3 3pt contests in a row, he's still 3rd all-time in most consecutive shots made in it, still 5th in most points in the final round (WITHOUT the money-ball racket).

From 1985 til 1988, in 4 combined seasons... He averaged 28.1 PPG on 51.7 / 41.4 / 90.1 shooting :bowdown:

He lead the league in FT% 4 times. Was twice the leader in 3pt's made, both times being 4th in PPG.

:applause:

RidonKs
11-09-2015, 12:55 PM
dirk is a really overrated shooter....

his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants, as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor. he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

basically his shot selection leads to easier shots. there's no punishing that quality efficiency when evaluating him as an overall player, but as just a shooter?

no way this dude is top 10 all time. no way he finishes top 10 in an all time 3pt shooting contest anyway... not versatile enough

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 01:05 PM
Ray-Ray AKA Jesus himself didn't make the cut? :biggums:

Good stuff overall though. Not sure I would list Dale Ellis as a "specialist", as he was a pretty good scorer in the 80s (had a really good midrange game and was nice in the post). Flipping him with either Rex Chapman and/or Dan Majerle would make a little more sense.

I'm sure that Ray just slipped his mind there.

Was just about to say the same about (prime) Dale Ellis...
Dude could do it from any place on the floor, elite from everywhere except at the FT-line, terrific off the ball, could do it from the post, even had some game off the dribble, and he was scoring at pretty high rates... No way I'd call him, in his prime, just a specialist or something, if he was strictly one then - to some extent - you could also consider a dude like Reggie Miller a specialist.
For example, for the 1988-89 regular-season, Ellis put up 27.5 PPG (3rd) on 50.1% FG and 47.8% 3P (2nd) on 4.1 attempts per game (2nd). Had a post-season run where over the course of 14 games he averaged 25.2 PPG on 48.7/36.1; and another with 22.9 PPG on 45.0/40.5.

Oh, and to a lesser extent, the same goes for prime Chuck Person.

feyki
11-09-2015, 01:05 PM
dirk is a really overrated shooter....

his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants, as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor. he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

basically his shot selection leads to easier shots. there's no punishing that quality efficiency when evaluating him as an overall player, but as just a shooter?

no way this dude is top 10 all time. no way he finishes top 10 in an all time 3pt shooting contest anyway... not versatile enough

:facepalm

Dragonyeuw
11-09-2015, 01:15 PM
1)dirk is a really overrated shooter....

2)his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants,

3)as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor.

4)he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

5)basically his shot selection leads to easier shots.



1) :biggums:

2) You say this like it's a bad thing

3) One of the all-time great midrange shooters

4) Average, as in 17th all time in makes on a .38%

5) See #2

FKAri
11-09-2015, 01:18 PM
In 20 years probably only Curry will remain on that last and it might be just barely.

Ariza4three
11-09-2015, 01:59 PM
Nash/Bird/Curry/Allen/Miller, no order.

This, but include Dirk (ties Reggie at 5th). Rest is no order

Cali Syndicate
11-09-2015, 03:16 PM
Mullin belongs

NBASTATMAN
11-09-2015, 04:03 PM
1.steph curry
2.larry bird
3.steve nash
4.dirk nowitski
5.kevin durant.

Any objections??


YES.. Petrovich was better than all of them except for Curry

Pointguard
11-09-2015, 04:12 PM
1. Ray Allen
2. Bird
3. Nash
4. Curry but its just a matter of time
5. Durant the best scoring shooter

ArbitraryWater
11-09-2015, 04:14 PM
dirk is a really overrated shooter....

his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants, as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor. he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

basically his shot selection leads to easier shots. there's no punishing that quality efficiency when evaluating him as an overall player, but as just a shooter?

no way this dude is top 10 all time. no way he finishes top 10 in an all time 3pt shooting contest anyway... not versatile enough

:facepalm :hammerhead:

sry but this is terrible

eklip
11-09-2015, 04:14 PM
dirk is a really overrated shooter....

his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants, as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor. he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

basically his shot selection leads to easier shots. there's no punishing that quality efficiency when evaluating him as an overall player, but as just a shooter?

no way this dude is top 10 all time. no way he finishes top 10 in an all time 3pt shooting contest anyway... not versatile enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXauvL75rdY

That's what you consider easy shots? And that's just Dirk late in his career. Young Dirk shot a lot more tough off the dribble shots (Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_J-LlS6q3M)are some examples). Which great and efficient shooter takes tougher shots?

Dirk is automatic from everywhere on the court.
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dirknowitzki1152.png
(http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-top-20-shooters-how-we-chose-them/)

Pointguard
11-09-2015, 05:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXauvL75rdY

That's what you consider easy shots? And that's just Dirk late in his career. Young Dirk shot a lot more tough off the dribble shots (Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_J-LlS6q3M)are some examples). Which great and efficient shooter takes tougher shots?

Dirk is automatic from everywhere on the court.
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dirknowitzki1152.png
(http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-top-20-shooters-how-we-chose-them/)
2014 was one of Dirk's top three shooting years. And Nash, Durant, Curry, Price and Ray Allen all have much more impressive shooting charts, despite Dirk having one of the hardest shots to block.

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 05:53 PM
dirk is a really overrated shooter....

his shotmaking ability has as much to do with getting the shot he wants whenever he wants, as opposed to his being automatic from anywhere on the floor. he's rarely been better than an average 3pt shooter.

basically his shot selection leads to easier shots. there's no punishing that quality efficiency when evaluating him as an overall player, but as just a shooter?

no way this dude is top 10 all time. no way he finishes top 10 in an all time 3pt shooting contest anyway... not versatile enough

:biggums:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXauvL75rdY

That's what you consider easy shots? And that's just Dirk late in his career. Young Dirk shot a lot more tough off the dribble shots (Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_J-LlS6q3M)are some examples). Which great and efficient shooter takes tougher shots?

Dirk is automatic from everywhere on the court.
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/dirknowitzki1152.png
(http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-top-20-shooters-how-we-chose-them/)

:applause:

SHAQisGOAT
11-09-2015, 05:54 PM
Mullin belongs

Chris Mullin's easily in my HM's, which would've been him plus (in no particular order)...

Peja Stojakovic
Drazen Petrovic
Pete Maravich
Jeff Hornacek
Dell Curry
Kyle Korver
Brian Winters
Steve Kerr
Fred Brown
Bill Sharman
Kiki Vandeweghe
Glen Rice
Calvin Murphy
Rick Barry
John Stockton
Chris Paul
Dana Barros
Dennis Scott
Gail Goodrich
Craig Hodges
...

JEFFERSON MONEY
11-09-2015, 06:25 PM
Damon Jones (Claimed he was the best shooter in the world)
JR Smith (His range knows no bounds)
Jamal Crawford (The man banks as much as he makes it.

Forgot those three

Round Mound
11-09-2015, 07:25 PM
Chris Mullin is The GOAT All Around Shooter.

Draz
11-09-2015, 07:53 PM
J craw is definitely up there

G0ATbe
11-09-2015, 07:54 PM
Where's Kobe? :biggums:

DaOldLion
11-09-2015, 08:00 PM
people in here going off of FG% to determine this are exposing themsevles as hypocritical idiots... no wonder this is being done by Lebron fans more than anybody.. here on ISH where "regular season doesn't matter" and "FG%>wins" and this is the conclusion some of you come to


Dirk playoff FG% = 46% on 18 FGA per game = GOAT shooter

Ray Allen playoff FG% = 44% on 12 FGA per game = GOAT shooter

Reggie Miller playoff FG% = 45% on 14 FGA per game = GOAT shooter

Kobe playoff FG% = 45% on 21 FGA per game = cancerous chucker

oh ISH :oldlol: :oldlol: