How good is 38-39 yo Jordan compared to....

[Dr Hawk]

37 yo Kobe?

Wizards Jordan: 21/5.9/4.4 .43FG%
2016 Kobe: 16.5/3.5/2.7 .32 FG%

Who do you take?

[Gileraracer]

Expected some stats in here

[Dr Hawk]

Expected some stats in here


Done

[Quickening]

Aids is better than 2016 Kobe

[Magic 32]

Lets's see what Jordan did when he had nagging injures at that age...

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[Dr Hawk]

So an injured 39 years old Jordan was still able to put up 34 points on good efficiency? That settles it, thanks

[DonDadda59]

Damn, pouring salt in those wounds. Bean stans can't stop losing these days. Almost feel bad for them.

[Gileraracer]

We shouldn't forget that Jordan was GOAT (back then, now Lebron is of course). Kobe was good but never Jordan like dominant. Plus Kobe had an achilles injury. can't get much worse than that.

[Psileas]

Lets's see what Jordan did when he had nagging injures at that age...

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How dare you apply similar standards! :biggums:

[juju151111]

How dare you apply similar standards! :biggums:
What nagging injuries did Kobe come into the season with numnuts? Mj came into 02 with ****ed up rips and drained knee and tendinitis.

[DMAVS41]

Easily MJ...he was producing / playing much better on both ends and was doing so in a much tougher defensive era.

Not really fair to Kobe because he's obviously just hurt and has been going on 3 years now.

But, Kobe's inability to stay on the court and his dreadful play when he's on it since 13 makes him one of the least valuable players in the league.

MJ was one of the better players in the league during his stint with the Wizards...so really not a fair comparison.

[juju151111]

Easily MJ...he was producing / playing much better on both ends and was doing so in a much tougher defensive era.

Not really fair to Kobe because he's obviously just hurt and has been going on 3 years now.

But, Kobe's inability to stay on the court and his dreadful play when he's on it since 13 makes him one of the least valuable players in the league.

MJ was one of the better players in the league during his stint with the Wizards...so really not a fair comparison.
Kobe has only been hurt the pass two games. He came into the season with no injuries. Before Mj injury against the kings (Destroying them by the way)Mj was leading his team to the playoffs. His defense was also wayyyyyyyy better 37 year old Kobe

[f0und]

it doesnt help that 20 seasons in, kobe still never learned the difference between a good shot and a bad shot.

[Rake2204]

Lets's see what Jordan did when he had nagging injures at that age...

http://s8.postimg.org/wwqndszp1/sdfsdfsfd.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/38/5c/76385ca4860d82b89a6002af02d8fd97.jpgQuite honestly, that's kind of impressive, considering he had knee surgery on February 27. For a 39-year-old to go under the knife and somehow manage to come back and give it a shot in three weeks is impressive in itself. The fact that he squeezed a 34 point game on 12-22 shooting in just 26 minutes is something else. Apparently the injury was still bad enough for him to call it a season after that Los Angeles game, so it's a little wild.

[DMAVS41]

Kobe has only been hurt the pass two games. He came into the season with no injuries. Before Mj injury against the kings (Destroying them by the way)Mj was leading his team to the playoffs. His defense was also wayyyyyyyy better 37 year old Kobe

Agreed...please read my post. It includes a line about MJ playing better on both ends.

I was talking about Kobe pretty much being hurt now since 13...which he has.

[DonDadda59]

What nagging injuries did Kobe come into the season with numnuts? Mj came into 02 with ****ed up rips and drained knee and tendinitis.

Don't forget the surgery he had on his index finger on his shooting hand. The damage from that freak cigar cutter incident and the subsequent surgery left him with nerve and tendon damage that he never recovered from.

He wasn't able (and still can't) bend or extend fully that finger. You can still see it in pictures, look at how awkward his finger is when he's shaking people's hands, holding something. He can't even fit one of his 6 rings all the way down. And he scored 50+ points with that and the other ailments you mentioned. :bowdown:

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[Dragonyeuw]

MJ was top 15 at least in 2002, before the injuries forcing him to shut down for the year. His averages dipped to 23/5/5, after being 25/6/5 on 42% shooting, and the Wizards in playoff contention at one point. In a tougher defenisve era with a number of all time GOAT players( Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, KG, Dirk) in their prime.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Easily MJ...he was producing / playing much better on both ends and was doing so in a much tougher defensive era.

Not really fair to Kobe because he's obviously just hurt and has been going on 3 years now.

But, Kobe's inability to stay on the court and his dreadful play when he's on it since 13 makes him one of the least valuable players in the league.

MJ was one of the better players in the league during his stint with the Wizards...so really not a fair comparison.
:applause:

39 year old 2002 MJ > 2014 - 2016 Kobe
40 year old 2003 MJ > 2014 - 2016 Kobe

Even when both were "healthy" on the court. Both had tons of age, mileage, nagging injuries and lack of athleticism. Jordan was more skilled, and intelligent in approach. He also improved his team, not handicap it. Played in a more physical league too.

[Dragonyeuw]

:applause:

39 year old 2002 MJ > 2014 - 2016 Kobe
40 year old 2003 MJ > 2014 - 2016 Kobe

Even when both were "healthy" on the court. Both had tons of age, mileage, nagging injuries and lack of athleticism. Jordan was more skilled, and intelligent in approach. He also improved his team, not handicap it. Played in a more physical league too.

Which would more or less sum up the difference between them over the course of their careers. Jordan always applied his skills in a more intelligent manner, leading to a more consistent overall player, not only in terms of his own play but how his team played off him.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Which would more or less sum up the difference between them over the course of their careers. Jordan always applied his skills in a more intelligent manner, leading to a more consistent overall player, not only in terms of his own play but how his team played off him.
Agreed. Not to mention Jordan also had better athleticism. But even comparing them after their peaks, or when both were totally devoid of their youthful prime athleticism in their older broken down state ... MJ was still better.

[Chokefree]

37 yo Kobe?

Wizards Jordan: 21/5.9/4.4 .43FG%
2016 Kobe: 16.5/3.5/2.7 .32 FG%

Who do you take?
So many insecure lebronze stans in here lol

[ClipperRevival]

MJ also had (1) 50 point game, (6) 40 point games and (25) 30 point games in his two seasons with the Wizards.

Pretty amazing for a guy that was 38, 39 and 40 years old during this time.

[Magic 32]

What nagging injuries did Kobe come into the season with numnuts? Mj came into 02 with ****ed up rips and drained knee and tendinitis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9M_8YKLuio

[Iceman#44]

MJ Wizards was a mvp candidate in 2002

[SexSymbol]

37 yo Kobe?

Wizards Jordan: 21/5.9/4.4 .43FG%
2016 Kobe: 16.5/3.5/2.7 .32 FG%

Who do you take?
Did Jordan have the biggest injury in sports?

[Dr Hawk]

MJ Wizards was a mvp candidate in 2002

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-finger-wag-kobe-bryant-gifs.gif

[Dr Hawk]

Did Jordan have the biggest injury in sports?

Nope, but he had the best career instead

[Rake2204]

MJ Wizards was a mvp candidate in 2002I'm not sure he even would have had a super legit chance of winning, considering the likelihood of an early Wizards exit from the playoff if they even reached, but it's true that he began to develop some buzz in that regard at one point.

From the New York Times:


Unthinkable and even provincial a few months ago, the subject must now be broached without laughing: Michael Jordan for most valuable player.

The season is two weeks from its midway point, and the Washington Wizards (18-16) are on track to make the Eastern Conference playoffs. A team that won 19 games last season could eclipse that total this week...

Jordan, who has won five M.V.P. awards, is not in the running because of his numbers, which are All-Star caliber (24.2 points a game before last night's loss to Minnesota in which he scored 35) but not quite M.V.P. worthy. His recent back-to-back outbursts of 51 and 45 points have little to do with why he is a genuine candidate. Along with that surreal two-handed block of Ron Mercer nine days ago, those were merely blasts from the past.

Jordan is an M.V.P. candidate because he did the improbable again: he got his teammates, the once-woeful Wizards, to believe in themselves.http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/sports/pro-basketball-inside-the-nba-jordan-lifts-wizards-and-his-mvp-bid.html?pagewanted=all

[kennethgriffin]

kobe had a career ending injury and tried to keep playing


this thread is retarded

[Dr Hawk]

kobe had a career ending injury and tried to keep playing


this thread is retarded


That is nice, but, who would you take?

[kennethgriffin]

That is nice, but, who would you take?

the guy with a leg to stand on

neither is a great option but jordan was atleast healthy

[Dr Hawk]

the guy with a leg to stand on

neither is a great option but jordan was atleast healthy

Healthy and better

[Angel Face]

Grandpa MJ can drop 30 points on any given night while Kobe drops 30% fg.