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Nick Young
11-13-2015, 07:03 PM
Everyone who spoke out against the recent immigration wave in Europe, saying this would lead to terror attacks in Europe, was called a paranoid racist islamaphobe.


It turns out these people knew that they were talking about.



The heart of Europe, Paris, is literally under siege right now from what is likely around 20-30 terrorists max, many of whom likely came through the French borders recently..

StephHamann
11-13-2015, 07:04 PM
:applause:

oarabbus
11-13-2015, 07:22 PM
I can't believe how wrong I was on this issue. Absolutely wrong.

This is extremely ****ed up. I hope France can quickly recover from this, RIP to the dead.

Jameerthefear
11-13-2015, 07:42 PM
KevinCuck and DoucheWallaces are in HIDING right now

NumberSix
11-13-2015, 07:51 PM
I doubt this was done by recent "refugees". I could be wrong, but I'd guess this was people who were already there.

Gus Hemmingway
11-13-2015, 07:54 PM
I doubt this was done by recent "refugees". I could be wrong, but I'd guess this was people who were already there.


ISIS DRESSED as refugees

LJJ
11-13-2015, 07:59 PM
ISIS DRESSED as refugees

Sure. There are also plenty of members of Islamic State who were born, raised and educated in France.

There are also many thousands French citizens who might not have travelled to Syria and joined Islamic State, but still share the same beliefs and sympathies.


They really don't have to send any terrorists to western European countries. There is no shortage of extremists willing to do the deed who are born and raised there and live there.

poido123
11-13-2015, 08:06 PM
I made a thread on this very thing yesterday.


People decided to kill off my thread with spamming, but I did warn everyone and I've been shouting this threat down people's throats here for a while now.


Cut off immigrantion NOW. No politicaly correct bullshit, this is a national security issue and needs to be treated as such in all Western and european countries.


Who knows what's next.

Nick Young
11-13-2015, 08:08 PM
I made a thread on this very thing yesterday.


People decided to kill off my thread with spamming, but I did warn everyone and I've been shouting this threat down people's throats here for a while now.


Cut off immigrantion NOW. No politicaly correct bullshit, this is a national security issue and needs to be treated as such in all Western and european countries.


Who knows what's next.
You have been vindicated. Hopefully this shit doesn't happen in Australia. The government took all of your guys guns right?

bluechox2
11-13-2015, 08:15 PM
ish muslims trying to backpedal...classic

poido123
11-13-2015, 08:24 PM
You have been vindicated. Hopefully this shit doesn't happen in Australia. The government took all of your guys guns right?



Melbourne and sydney. Largest pockets of Muslim population. we already see large protests and unrest in these major cities. This is where the next will be and I'm dead certain its coming. Places like Lakemba and Punchbowl, Southwest Sydney are full of the fudnamentalist ones.


I have noticed the muslim population growing in and around the area I live. They are spreading and so are their mosques.


Very soon, my views will be seen as the norm. People just don't fully comprehend a threat until it literally blows up in their face.

People were calling me tin foil hat for getting a gat on the downlow.

Nick Young
11-13-2015, 08:26 PM
gats are allowed in Australia?


If not, I hope you got it from a triad or yakuza.

WallIn
11-13-2015, 08:28 PM
I doubt this was done by recent "refugees". I could be wrong, but I'd guess this was people who were already there.

Recent refugees or French muslims? Who cares? ISIS recruits both.

R.I.P.
11-13-2015, 08:28 PM
I doubt this was done by recent "refugees". I could be wrong, but I'd guess this was people who were already there.

I suspect that, too. Still they can

LikeMike
11-14-2015, 01:17 AM
Everyone who spoke out against the recent immigration wave in Europe, saying this would lead to terror attacks in Europe, was called a paranoid racist islamaphobe.


It turns out these people knew that they were talking about.



The heart of Europe, Paris, is literally under siege right now from what is likely around 20-30 terrorists max, many of whom likely came through the French borders recently..

How do you know?

DeuceWallaces
11-14-2015, 01:29 AM
How do you know?

He doesn't. He's an idiot troll talking out his ass; like always.

imdaman99
11-14-2015, 01:39 AM
How do you know?
He is as clueless as anyone. But he likes to pretend he knows everything. Let's see what made up stuff he comes up with tomorrow.

poido123
11-14-2015, 02:25 AM
He is as clueless as anyone. But he likes to pretend he knows everything. Let's see what made up stuff he comes up with tomorrow.


It would probably help if you came in and just apologise for what just happened, instead of defending Islam ( I note that you did condemn ISIS that's great).


You are not responsible for this, I only encourage that you gather your good muslim brethrens and take action against these troublesome groups. As in, get on the streets and protest against this senseless violence. Get in your mosques and start pointing out the troublemakers, report them to the authorities.


If you are fencesitting and simply deferring the blame to America for these atrocities, then people will continue to pigeon hole you into the blame corner.

imdaman99
11-14-2015, 02:34 AM
It would probably help if you came in and just apologise for what just happened, instead of defending Islam ( I note that you did condemn ISIS that's great).


You are not responsible for this, I only encourage that you gather your good muslim brethrens and take action against these troublesome groups. As in, get on the streets and protest against this senseless violence. Get in your mosques and start pointing out the troublemakers, report them to the authorities.


If you are fencesitting and simply deferring the blame to America for these atrocities, then people will continue to pigeon hole you into the blame corner.
:facepalm C'mon man, you can't be serious. You don't know what I do at my mosque. You seem to think that we're all high 5ing each other in there? :facepalm We are all shitting on ISIS; the scholars, the adults, the kids, we're all in the know. We have had so many lectures about how horrible ISIS is. You need to visit a mosque before you paint us all as 'fencesitters'.

poido123
11-14-2015, 02:46 AM
:facepalm C'mon man, you can't be serious. You don't know what I do at my mosque. You seem to think that we're all high 5ing each other in there? :facepalm We are all shitting on ISIS; the scholars, the adults, the kids, we're all in the know. We have had so many lectures about how horrible ISIS is. You need to visit a mosque before you paint us all as 'fencesitters'.


Here's 40 Imams preaching hate being deported:

http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-terror-threat-france-deports-40-imams-preaching-hatred-interior-minister-says-1987822


Here's an FBI agent who claims that 10% of mosques preach Jihad in US mosques:

http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/Mosques-preach-jihad/2009/11/10/id/336125/



Here's another Imam in East London preaching hate in a mosque:

http://standforpeace.org.uk/east-london-mosque-hosts-imam-of-terror-linked-an-noor-mosque/


And here is Lakemba Australia mosque:


http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/hate-preachers-in-australia-uncovered-after-fiery-lateline-interview/story-fnh81ifq-1227086138502






It's happening bro, there are volatile Imams/clerics preaching hate throughout Western/European Mosques.

You might not attend one, but they are out there. Maybe you could get your buddies together, find them and call them out.


What's the point of discussing it inside your own mosque? Get out and find these muthafckers and make an example of them. I'm sure there are people you know who talk down about the US and have an anti-west mindset.

imdaman99
11-14-2015, 03:42 AM
Poido, I don't doubt there are rogue places out there that preach that stuff. As a matter of fact, I know there are some Muslims that hate the West...and ironically enough they live in the West and take advantage of the freedom. It's hypocrisy. It's a difficult task for us to root these ppl out, we don't have the resources to do that. I can't see us going movie mode and turning spy and getting them to trust us.

I enjoyed the hell out of that movie called Traitor http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988047/?ref_=nv_sr_1

BTW, this was a great tweet :

Dan Holloway ‏@RFCdan 9h9 hours ago

To people blaming refugees for attacks in Paris tonight. Do you not realise these are the people the refugees are trying to run away from..?

tomtucker
11-14-2015, 03:59 AM
Melbourne and sydney. Largest pockets of Muslim population. we already see large protests and unrest in these major cities. This is where the next will be and I'm dead certain its coming. Places like Lakemba and Punchbowl, Southwest Sydney are full of the fudnamentalist ones.


I have noticed the muslim population growing in and around the area I live. They are spreading and so are their mosques.


Very soon, my views will be seen as the norm. People just don't fully comprehend a threat until it literally blows up in their face.

People were calling me tin foil hat for getting a gat on the downlow.

there are many who share your views..........only the dumb and blind do not fear and hate the invading masses

tomtucker
11-14-2015, 04:02 AM
Recent refugees or French muslims? Who cares? ISIS recruits both.

right, who the fukk care how they came into the country........... they are all over europe allready, thanks to spineless leftwing politicians

BasedTom
11-14-2015, 04:13 AM
https://i.4cdn.org/int/1447485741721.jpg

Joshumitsu
11-14-2015, 04:43 AM
I'm skeptical they were recent immigrants. Based on the previous terror attacks, most likely they were jihadists who fought in Syria and returned (or were planning to fight). They also had to know the layout of France quite well to be able to coordinate such attacks.

And again, it's very possible they were the ones who stole explosives from the French military a few months ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11723764/Forty-grenades-180-detonators-and-plastic-explosives-stolen-from-French-military-base.html

To do that, they had to be familiar with France (language, culture, region, etc) to not appear suspicious.

That said, there is no doubt this recent attack will inspire the more radical immigrants/ISIL infiltrators. It was so efficient and easy that it will now be the typical textbook operation.

It's only going to get more bloody.

masonanddixon
11-14-2015, 07:31 AM
Australians are actually very liberal (in the American sense), and if anything this will cause more Australians to protect Muslims than to have a heightened sense of wariness about forced multiculturalism and immigration.

If you read up on One Nation and Pauline Hanson they predicted this all years ago but have been villified by social media and are unfortunately not taken seriously by anyone in Australia.

kNIOKAS
11-14-2015, 07:40 AM
I don't know how any of this makes accepting immigrants any less right.

dunksby
11-14-2015, 07:43 AM
Those who carried out the attacks are French citizens and well documented, refugees are in camps, they can't attend concerts.

step_back
11-14-2015, 07:47 AM
I'm certain that the people that carried out the attacks would've been in Paris for a while. I'm not saying that these guys were French nationals but they could have been French citizens. I don't think an operation of this magnitude could be carried out with only a few weeks planning.

kurple
11-14-2015, 09:07 AM
Leave it to Nick Young to take this horrific event and make it about himself

CeltsGarlic
11-14-2015, 09:37 AM
Those who carried out the attacks are French citizens and well documented, refugees are in camps, they can't attend concerts.

Oh yeah, refugees are in camps, all counted with complete bio-checks.Honest wishes and desires clearly documented. All they want is to work, peeeps!!!

fiddy
11-14-2015, 10:30 AM
Those who carried out the attacks are French citizens and well documented, refugees are in camps, they can't attend concerts.
Wrong, one of the attackers had a Syrian passport

Derka
11-14-2015, 11:03 AM
I don't think the unchecked immigration is a good thing for Europe, but linking it to this is just scummy and opportunistic as all hell and reeks of dishonesty. Attacks as coordinated as this didn't happen because some immigrants came into Paris. This was months upon months of planning by people who have been in that country for years more than likely.

I personally think ISIS and anyone who supports them need to wiped off the face of the earth with as much military might as the free world can muster. But I'm not ready to heap the blame for this on people who are legitimately trying to get away from them anyway they can.

kNIOKAS
11-14-2015, 11:05 AM
I personally think ISIS and anyone who supports them need to wiped off the face of the earth with as much military might as the free world can muster. But I'm not ready to heap the blame for this on people who are legitimately trying to get away from them anyway they can.
Uhh are you advocating to wiping out Saudo Arabia? Also, retrospectively, are you saying the world should try to wipe out USA of the face of the earth?

GIF REACTION
11-14-2015, 11:09 AM
I don't think the unchecked immigration is a good thing for Europe, but linking it to this is just scummy and opportunistic as all hell and reeks of dishonesty. Attacks as coordinated as this didn't happen because some immigrants came into Paris. This was months upon months of planning by people who have been in that country for years more than likely.

I personally think ISIS and anyone who supports them need to wiped off the face of the earth with as much military might as the free world can muster. But I'm not ready to heap the blame for this on people who are legitimately trying to get away from them anyway they can.
You bomb their country then let them waltz right in to your own backyard

Tell me again how this has nothing to do with Syrian "immigrants" (70% of which are men)

Not to forget the rapes, stabbings, assault, and mayhem they've caused... Not long before they are the majority. Has already happened in some places in the UK.

But sure... Let's pretend like nothing is happening!

Boogaloo
11-14-2015, 11:40 AM
They saying on da news that some of terrorist spoke perfect French (no accent) and were young. That means local dudes with local help (ie. Safe houses, lookouts, logistics) but with international support ie Syria for weapons training and tactics?

I mean this looks like a planned assault. These bad guys looked very proficient in handling weps.

Boogaloo
11-14-2015, 12:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289


Its confirmed. One of the shooters was Syrian Refugee who came in to Greece on October.

NumberSix
11-14-2015, 12:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289


Its confirmed. One of the shooters was Syrian Refugee who came in to Greece on October.
"Refugee"


#NotAllRefugees

n00bie
11-14-2015, 12:19 PM
I doubt this was done by recent "refugees". I could be wrong, but I'd guess this was people who were already there.

There are now reports that one of the attackers had a Syrian passport, and was registered as a refugee. Good luck Europe, this is just the beginning. :roll:

dunksby
11-14-2015, 01:12 PM
Wrong, one of the attackers had a Syrian passport
Wow one out of 15 or more of them? I stand corrected. Anyway, **** all them savages, I hope all of them die of gruesome deaths.

UK2K
11-14-2015, 01:27 PM
I'm certain that the people that carried out the attacks would've been in Paris for a while. I'm not saying that these guys were French nationals but they could have been French citizens. I don't think an operation of this magnitude could be carried out with only a few weeks planning.
An operation like this doesn't take nearly as much planning as they're saying.

99% of the country is a big, wet, soggy, soft target.

Once you have the weapons, the only hard part (especially in France) is figuring out which target is the juiciest.

UK2K
11-14-2015, 01:29 PM
Wow one out of 15 or more of them? I stand corrected. Anyway, **** all them savages, I hope all of them die of gruesome deaths.
*one out of 7.

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:05 PM
I don't know how any of this makes accepting immigrants any less right.
There is nothing wrong with accepting immigrants.

There is something wrong with blindly accepting everyone who claims refuge status in to your country and spend the tax money of the people coddling and taking care of them and giving free shit.

It is also wrong that these "Syrian" refuges aren't being taken in by nearby countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. Why is Europe responsible for them?

code green
11-14-2015, 02:06 PM
Paris happens every day in Syria; the world doesn't give a shit. People can keep their fake outrage and stupid ass French flag pictures on social media, thanks.

sammichoffate
11-14-2015, 02:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGFShVMEnw
:(

Boogaloo
11-14-2015, 02:08 PM
Why is Europe responsible for them?

White guilt

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:09 PM
He doesn't. He's an idiot troll talking out his ass; like always.

He is as clueless as anyone. But he likes to pretend he knows everything. Let's see what made up stuff he comes up with tomorrow.

Those who carried out the attacks are French citizens and well documented, refugees are in camps, they can't attend concerts.

I'm certain that the people that carried out the attacks would've been in Paris for a while. I'm not saying that these guys were French nationals but they could have been French citizens. I don't think an operation of this magnitude could be carried out with only a few weeks planning.


Report: Paris Attacker Was Syrian “Refugee” Who Arrived in Greece Last Month

Stade de France suicide bomber identified as would-be asylum seeker by Greek government



Reports are emerging that one of the terrorists involved in last night’s Paris massacre was a Syrian refugee who arrived in Greece last month.

Greek journalist Yannis Koutsomitis tweets that the country’s Ministry of Public Order and Citizen Protection has confirmed that the terrorist found with a Syrian passport on his person was, “registered as refugee on Leros island in October.”



http://www.infowars.com/report-paris-attacker-was-syrian-refugee-who-arrived-in-greece-last-month/





A Syrian and an Egyptian passport were found on the bodies of the two suicide bombers who targeted the Stade de France.

The Syrian passport belonged to a refugee who passed through Greece, according to a Greek minister.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/14/paris-terror-attacks-attackers-dead-mass-killing-live-updates

macmac
11-14-2015, 02:11 PM
Paris happens every day in Syria; the world doesn't give a shit. People can keep their fake outrage and stupid ass French flag pictures on social media, thanks.

The world obviously gave enough of a shit to let these refugees into their countries.

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:11 PM
There is nothing wrong with accepting immigrants.

There is something wrong with blindly accepting everyone who claims refuge status in to your country and spend the tax money of the people coddling and taking care of them and giving free shit.

It is also wrong that these "Syrian" refuges aren't being taken in by nearby countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. Why is Europe responsible for them?

how can one distinguish the 'real' one from the terrorists?

also, what do you mean by cuddling?
here, they get like 10$ a day and a small bed in a old military complex
they live a very shitty, very boring life

code green
11-14-2015, 02:13 PM
The world obviously gave enough of a shit to let these refugees into their countries.

You mean the refugees that aren't even really Syrians?

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:14 PM
I don't think the unchecked immigration is a good thing for Europe, but linking it to this is just scummy and opportunistic as all hell and reeks of dishonesty. Attacks as coordinated as this didn't happen because some immigrants came into Paris. This was months upon months of planning by people who have been in that country for years more than likely.

I personally think ISIS and anyone who supports them need to wiped off the face of the earth with as much military might as the free world can muster. But I'm not ready to heap the blame for this on people who are legitimately trying to get away from them anyway they can.
How is it scummy and opportunistic? This massive attack directly correlates with the rise of these immigrants coming to Europe. Atleast one of the men who took part in the attack was one of these recent immigrants.


Of course the attacks didn't happen "because some immigrants came to Paris". But Europe allowing trained Jihadis through its borders certainly didn't help anything.

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:16 PM
how can one distinguish the 'real' one from the terrorists?

also, what do you mean by cuddling?
here, they get like 10$ a day and a small bed in a old military complex
they live a very shitty, very boring life
By cuddling I mean giving government handouts and free houses and free welfare, which is what most European governments are doing for their new "refuges".


You can distinguish a real immigrant by doing a background check. Don't just let any moron in with a passport. If someone has a history as a Jihadi, don't let them in. It's simple. Do some due dilligence. Don't just blindly allow everyone in to your country who wants to get in.

Do you understand that there is a health middle ground in between "LET EVERYONE IN! IMMIGRANTS ARE AWESOME" and "**** ALL THE IMMIGRANTS, SHUT DOWN THE BORDERS, NONE OF THEM SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN"

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:20 PM
Paris happens every day in Syria; the world doesn't give a shit. People can keep their fake outrage and stupid ass French flag pictures on social media, thanks.
Attacks on civilians of this scale do not happen every day in Syria.:facepalm

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:20 PM
By cuddling I mean giving government handouts and free houses and free welfare, which is what most European governments are doing for their new "refuges".

they get free houses? :lebronamazed:



You can distinguish a real immigrant by doing a background check. Don't just let any moron in with a passport. If someone has a history as a Jihadi, don't let them in. It's simple. Do some due dilligence. Don't just blindly allow everyone in to your country who wants to get in.

it's not



Do you understand that there is a balance between "LET EVERYONE IN! IMMIGRANTS ARE AWESOME" and "**** ALL THE IMMIGRANTS, SHUT DOWN THE BORDERS, NONE OF THEM SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN"

i understand, except a few weirdos, nobody WANTS immigrants in their country

ArbitraryWater
11-14-2015, 02:20 PM
Attacks on civilians of this scale do not happen every day in Syria.:facepalm

instead people get beheaded on the streets every day

DonDadda59
11-14-2015, 02:21 PM
By cuddling I mean giving government handouts and free houses and free welfare, which is what most European governments are doing for their new "refuges".


I think you meant to say coddling, unless the government is giving out free hugs and has State employees spooning with refugees.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/28/15/enhanced/webdr11/anigif_enhanced-18474-1414525016-74.gif

Damn Europe, you so romantic. :pimp:

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:21 PM
they get free houses? :lebronamazed:



it's not



i understand, except a few weirdos, nobody WANTS immigrants in their country
In some countries, like Sweden, yes they do.

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:22 PM
I think you meant to say coddling, unless the government is giving out free hugs and has State employees spooning with refugees.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/28/15/enhanced/webdr11/anigif_enhanced-18474-1414525016-74.gif

Damn Europe, you so romantic. :pimp:
yep, I did mean coddling. It was a typo when I said "cuddling" but the two words essentially mean the same thing.

DonDadda59
11-14-2015, 02:23 PM
Attacks on civilians of this scale do not happen every day in Syria.:facepalm

They happen all over the World, all the time.

In the past month there were massive attacks in Turkey (at a peace parade) and Beirut. The Western news media for whatever reason did not make as big a deal of those attacks, even though both were also attributed to ISIS.


yep, I did mean coddling. It was a typo when I said "cuddling" but the two words essentially mean the same thing.

You are wrong. They clearly do not. And you are making a fool of yourself in public.

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:26 PM
In some countries, like Sweden, yes they do.

here, it usually looks like this:

http://f.blick.ch/img/news/origs2085935/0962533361-w1280-h960/Asylunterkunft-in-Wuennewil-Archiv-.jpg

i 'worked' in one for a short time.
i'd rather chop my leg off than living their life

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:26 PM
They happen all over the World, all the time.

In the past month there were massive attacks in Turkey (at a peace parade) and Beirut. The Western news media for whatever reason did not make as big a deal of those attacks, even though both were also attributed to ISIS.
Attacks of this scale do not happen every day.

This attack happened in Paris. The heart of Europe, a country currently not embroiled in a Civil War.

Syria and Lebanon border each other. It is not surprising that ISIS would set their sites there. It is surprising that they were able to have an attack of this scale in the middle of one of Europe's greatest cities.

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:28 PM
here, it usually looks like this:

http://f.blick.ch/img/news/origs2085935/0962533361-w1280-h960/Asylunterkunft-in-Wuennewil-Archiv-.jpg

i 'worked' in one for a short time.
i'd rather chop my leg off than living their life
Really? You'd rather chop of your leg than have a free home and nice bed?

Do you know that several countries don't even give free homes and beds to their own citizens?

Don't be a spoiled entitled bitch. Where are you from that you'd rather cut off your leg than live in a free dorm with a bunk bed if you had nothing else?

DonDadda59
11-14-2015, 02:32 PM
Attacks of this scale do not happen every day.

This attack happened in Paris. The heart of Europe, a country currently not embroiled in a Civil War.

Syria and Lebanon border each other. It is not surprising that ISIS would set their sites there. It is surprising that they were able to have an attack of this scale in the middle of one of Europe's greatest cities.

The f*ck are you talking about? Paris as a city alone is a major hub of Radical Islam. I know people today have extremely short attention spans and no long term memory, but the Charlie Hebdo attacks were less than a year ago and ISIS has been openly stating that they are going to attack Europe and Russia... but people are surprised that they did it when they have been on the terrorist bender to end all terrorist benders (blowing up the Russian plane, Turkey, Beirut, and now Paris all within a month)?

LJJ
11-14-2015, 02:33 PM
here, it usually looks like this:

http://f.blick.ch/img/news/origs2085935/0962533361-w1280-h960/Asylunterkunft-in-Wuennewil-Archiv-.jpg

i 'worked' in one for a short time.
i'd rather chop my leg off than living their life

For a short time while they live in a temporary refugee centre, sure.

In countries the majority of refugees quickly receive their long term residency status though, in which case their government supported housing will look like this for one family:

http://i.imgur.com/MomIFUR.jpg

Along with a social income of around €1500~2000 per month. There is some excess in both ways. Some refugees have to wait a long time while the system is backed up or there is some problem with their application. But mostly this is the system.

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:34 PM
Really? You'd rather chop of your leg than have a free home and nice bed?

Do you know that several countries don't even give free homes and beds to their own citizens?

Don't be a spoiled entitled bitch. Where are you from that you'd rather cut off your leg than live in a free dorm with a bunk bed if you had nothing else?

that's the point, i have else

and yes, i'd rather live my life on one leg in my apartment than sharing a underground 'dorm' with bunch of assailants and having nothing to do all day

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:36 PM
[QUOTE=LJJ]For a short time while they live in a temporary refugee centre, sure.

In countries the majority of refugees quickly receive their long term residency status though, in which case their government supported housing will look like this for one family:

http://i.imgur.com/MomIFUR.jpg

Along with a social income of around

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 02:41 PM
that's the point, i have else

and yes, i'd rather live my life on one leg in my apartment than sharing a underground 'dorm' with bunch of assailants and having nothing to do all day
Why are they assailants now? I thought they were peaceful refuges being allowed in to Europe.


You are a spoiled piece of shit then. There are plenty of things these guys can do in their nice cozy dorm while they're waiting for the government to process them and give them a free house and welfare.

They can work on improving their language skills, learning the language of whatever country they're moving to.

They can try to meet other refuges and come up with an idea to start a business with all the free money they are about to receive from the government, or they can talk to other immigrants and work on ways to get work together.

They can watch football on the TV.

They can work out and go for runs.


There are a shit ton of things they can be doing in those nice dorms.

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:51 PM
Why are they assailants now? I thought they were peaceful refuges being allowed in to Europe.


You are a spoiled piece of shit then. There are plenty of things these guys can do in their nice cozy dorm while they're waiting for the government to process them and give them a free house and welfare.

They can work on improving their language skills, learning the language of whatever country they're moving to.

They can try to meet other refuges and come up with an idea to start a business with all the free money they are about to receive from the government, or they can talk to other immigrants and work on ways to get work together.

They can watch football on the TV.

They can work out and go for runs.


There are a shit ton of things they can be doing in those nice dorms.

:(

DonD13
11-14-2015, 02:58 PM
oh damn, i typed 'assailants' because of the German word 'Asylant', i meant refugee :oldlol:


or is it a Freudian typo?!? :eek:

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 03:04 PM
oh damn, i typed 'assailants' because of the German word 'Asylant', i meant refugee :oldlol:


or is it a Freudian typo?!? :eek:
no worries, everyone does typos some times, if you're writing in a second or third language, it must be even harder to not do them.

Calling you a spoiled piece of shit was too hard on my part, sorry for that.

But these nice cozy dorms are hardly a punishment, especially when they're completely free, and there's a ton of free time for the refuges to do productive things, like study German, learn the local culture, develop ideas to get work/starting a business, making friends and connections with other refuges so they have a nice support network once they are given their long term residency status, etc etc

You should see what free housing looks like in other countries if you think these dorms are some kind of hellish punishment.

Bosnian Sajo
11-14-2015, 03:05 PM
It would probably help if you came in and just apologise for what just happened, instead of defending Islam ( I note that you did condemn ISIS that's great).


You are not responsible for this, I only encourage that you gather your good muslim brethrens and take action against these troublesome groups. As in, get on the streets and protest against this senseless violence. Get in your mosques and start pointing out the troublemakers, report them to the authorities.


If you are fencesitting and simply deferring the blame to America for these atrocities, then people will continue to pigeon hole you into the blame corner.


So if he isn't responsible, why would he apologies? What are you talking about?

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 03:09 PM
So if he isn't responsible, why would he apologies? What are you talking about?
Yeah, I don't get that, why should imdaman have to apologize for what psychos across the Atlantic ocean do?:confusedshrug:

DonD13
11-14-2015, 03:22 PM
no worries, everyone does typos some times, if you're writing in a second or third language, it must be even harder to not do them.

Calling you a spoiled piece of shit was too hard on my part, sorry for that.

But these nice cozy dorms are hardly a punishment, especially when they're completely free, and there's a ton of free time for the refuges to do productive things, like study German, learn the local culture, develop ideas to get work/starting a business, making friends and connections with other refuges so they have a nice support network once they are given their long term residency status, etc etc

You should see what free housing looks like in other countries if you think these dorms are some kind of hellish punishment.

easy http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Trinken/smilie_trink_005.gif

well, it shouldn't be a 'punishment' :confusedshrug:

i agree, i have no sympathy for people who are not trying to learn the language.

also, don't assume i'm all happy with European refugee politics. i would change a lot

poido123
11-14-2015, 08:50 PM
So if he isn't responsible, why would he apologies? What are you talking about?


It's something you do when relatives or people you know die as a token gesture that you care.


I'm sorry for your loss. etc etc


I do think it applies here, we do have two pretty clear sides. Those who believe in Islam and the rest. Since the atrocities are carried out in the name of Islam or some Jihadi crusade and he is Muslim, it seems a appropriate as a gesture of good will.

BasedTom
11-14-2015, 09:26 PM
https://i.4cdn.org/int/1447547486507.webm

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447542126997.jpg

I<3NBA
11-14-2015, 09:55 PM
here, it usually looks like this:

http://f.blick.ch/img/news/origs2085935/0962533361-w1280-h960/Asylunterkunft-in-Wuennewil-Archiv-.jpg

i 'worked' in one for a short time.
i'd rather chop my leg off than living their life
are you fkn serious? that's a great place by my standards.

i live in a 3rd world country and i can tell you, that place looks neat. if it's for free, that's living the dream.

Nick Young
11-14-2015, 10:11 PM
https://i.4cdn.org/int/1447547486507.webm

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447542126997.jpg
XD it only took one day. This is the message Merkel is no doubt going to preach.

bluechox2
11-14-2015, 10:15 PM
XD it only took one day. This is the message Merkel is no doubt going to preach.

phase 3 about to begin

coin24
11-15-2015, 01:52 PM
That didn't take long, better bow down and apologise to the precious Muslims wouldn't want to offend them. Better change the whole society to accomodate them now:facepalm :facepalm

But don't expect them to fit in or make any effort, let alone be thankful or gracious..

Dresta
11-16-2015, 01:09 PM
These things are so tragic because they were so avoidable - so much so that it almost seems as if politicians are encouraging these acts (because that is what their policies are doing), so that they can justify the further expansion of the military-surveillance state.

Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence would know the foolhardiness of welcoming people you know nothing about into your country, when there exist in the region from which they a travelling hundreds of thousands willing to massacre westerners. It is a politician's duty to take care of their own, first and foremost, and they simply aren't doing anything of the sort - in fact, they seem willing to sacrifice their own citizens for the sake of idealistic abstractions and utopian crusades. Philanthropic high-mindedness is now just another commodity to be bought by those seeking public approval, regardless of its actual worth and effectiveness in bringing about anything positive.

senelcoolidge
11-16-2015, 01:33 PM
Well Slovakia is one of the smarter European countries. They don't want Muslims. They will only accept Christians. I would do the same. I would take in the persecuted (Christians and other non-Muslims), not the persecutors and trouble makers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/19/slovakia-will-take-in-200-syrian-refugees-but-they-have-to-be-christian/