Are we gonna sit here and act like Kobe wasn't the worst player in 2008 Olympics???

[Gus Hemmingway]

Kobe shot awful compared to team USA standards, he was a complete liability on the Dream Team 2.0 in his "prime" years.

Outside of the gold medal game 4th quarter, Kobe was a complete disaster compared to the rest of the team

Shot 20-30 more times then Lebron + Wade with 4-8 less points

http://i.imgur.com/BxtPcrL.png

[FKAri]

Look at Carmelo's numbers. And we know he sure as fucc wasn't playing any D. Beast in FIBA play doe.

[JT123]

These stats don't surprise me at all. Kobe has never been able to play team ball, no matter how much talent surrounds him. :facepalm

[sammichoffate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
Rent Free.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Dwade BEASTED in this tourney, his comeback right after his knee surgery

unlike like somebodies comeback after their knee/achillies :lol

[DonDadda59]

Back when D. Whistle and LeBald were the 2 best players on the planet. :applause:

Bean did save them against Pau and the Spaniards in that final game doe.

[Gus Hemmingway]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
Rent Free.


Outside that game he was TRASH

[warriorfan]

make more threads about kobe 7 years ago :roll:

[DonDadda59]

Outside that game he was TRASH

Yeah but that was the gold medal game. USA loses that, it's another in a long line of embarrassing failures on the National stage (Losing to Greece... 'winning' the bronze medal... really? :facepalm). The so-called Redeem Team would've been just another National shame. So Beans gets credit here as a National hero.

[buddha]

http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lebronze-medal.jpg

[sportjames23]

http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lebronze-medal.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7KXoQV7f6mE/UwBT5fnUJiI/AAAAAAAAcZ0/90ckYGZouRA/s1600/NellyDunkFaceDrakeSlamDunk.gif

[JohnFreeman]

Yeah, let's blame LeBron for the 2004 Olympic team. No mention of Duncan.

[Real14]

No Kobe no gold, not even silver, definitely LeBronze or worse.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Lebron was a rookie on the 2004 olympics

Kobe didn't even START on the Lakers as a rookie

[knicksman]

the best proof that you can win with kobe but not with bran:oldlol:

[TheBigVeto]

Kobe shot awful compared to team USA standards, he was a complete liability on the Dream Team 2.0 in his "prime" years.

Outside of the gold medal game 4th quarter, Kobe was a complete disaster compared to the rest of the team

Shot 20-30 more times then Lebron + Wade with 4-8 less points

http://i.imgur.com/BxtPcrL.png


It was never a secret that he was the Christian Laettner of the 2008 team.

[JebronLames]

:roll: LeBron's FT shooting

[Gileraracer]

These stats don't surprise me at all. Kobe has never been able to play team ball, no matter how much talent surrounds him. :facepalm

If he was never able to play team ball, did he win 5 rings by himself? :applause:


rentfree

[Mr. Jabbar]

op was mindraped by kobe at a young age :lol

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[PsychoBe]

http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lebronze-medal.jpg

national tragedy

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lebronze-medal.jpg
Don't forget the TOSB was part of it.

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/duncan_bronze.jpg

[SwayDizzle]

Damn KB so frikkin hung. Prolly motioned LJ away for some iso plays.

[sportjames23]

Kobe shot awful compared to team USA standards, he was a complete liability on the Dream Team 2.0 in his "prime" years.

Outside of the gold medal game 4th quarter, Kobe was a complete disaster compared to the rest of the team

Shot 20-30 more times then Lebron + Wade with 4-8 less points

http://i.imgur.com/BxtPcrL.png


Damn, Wade went to the line 41 times. :eek:

I wonder how many times Harden would go if the Olympics were held today? :oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe was the team's best perimeter defender though. He focused his energy there. It's clear some of you weren't old enough to have actually watched that team. They dominated every game but the gold medal game. Which was only close because of the extra tight officiating and subsequent early foul trouble they put Team USA in during the first half. Wade kept us in the ball game. Kobe saved us though during the most crucial stretch if we are being fair.

[TheImmortal]

Yeah, let's blame LeBron for the 2004 Olympic team. No mention of Duncan.
This. Duncan & Iverson were the biggest failures in Men's Basketball history.

[BlueandGold]

This. Duncan & Iverson were the biggest failures in Men's Basketball history.
This. Plus can't just give Lebron a pass on that since he was also a focal point on the team. They literally brought Kobe on in 2008 for a guaranteed win since 2004 shamed us in front of the entire world.

[plowking]

Bean did save them against Pau and the Spaniards in that final game doe.

No... he didn't.

It was Wade who saved them. He was the best player in that game too. He was the one who hit the clutch shot too. Funnily, his gets forgotten.

[HOoopCityJones]

No... he didn't.

It was Wade who saved them. He was the best player in that game too. He was the one who hit the clutch shot too. Funnily, his gets forgotten.

Kobe was the best player in the Gold medal game bro. Wade was the better player over the course of the tourney.

Are you seriously this delusional and biased? Fucc, give this ni99a his props for once in your life.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe was the best player in the Gold medal game bro. Wade was the better player over the course of the tourney.

Are you seriously this delusional and biased? Fucc, give this ni99a his props for once in your life.
He's right though. Wade was the best player for the entire course of that game. And probably the best player for us in the tournament. LeBron being second. Wade carried the team the entire first half. And still made clutch buckets in the second half too. Kobe's clutch play saved us in the most critical moments. But Wade had the better game.

[GIF REACTION]

Lebron was the most important player on the team.

[HOoopCityJones]

He's right though. Wade was the best player for the entire course of that game. And probably the best player for us in the tournament. LeBron being second. Wade carried the team the entire first half. And still made clutch buckets in the second half too. Kobe's clutch play saved us in the most critical moments. But Wade had the better game.

Kobe was the reason we won the game.

[L.A. Jazz]

Without YouTube and stats. As i remember:
Wade was the best Player the whole tournament and Kobe the main guy in the finals 4th quater.

[sportjames23]

Lebron was the most important player on the team.


The same nigguh who could only win Bronze until Kobe and Kidd showed him how to win Gold?

[ShawkFactory]

The same nigguh who could only win Bronze until Kobe and Kidd showed him how to win Gold?
Ew dude. Don't stoop to levels of JT and them

[Papaya Petee]

Kobe was the reason we won the game.
No he wasn't.

Wade had 27 Kobe had 20.

Wade hit a dagger 3 in the 4th and the 4 point Kobe play was off a Wade assist.

[Dragonyeuw]

Silly thread. Kobe didn't play overall the best, but was very far from the worst. He was also focusing more on being a defensive stopper than trying to be the lead scorer, and still was third in scoring on the team. And the last 5 mins of the deciding game......come on now. He didn't have the best overall game from start to finish, but everyone knew who to go to when the game was in the balance.

[sdot_thadon]

While he definitely wasn't one of the best players there, he did come up big when it mattered. Also like others said he focused more on playing overly aggressive defense against guards who stood no chance. It was bad. They probably still win gold without him, but there's no mistaking the fact he did contribute well especially in the mindset department.


This. Plus can't just give Lebron a pass on that since he was also a focal point on the team. They literally brought Kobe on in 2008 for a guaranteed win since 2004 shamed us in front of the entire world.
Lebron was a rookie and didn't really even play that year.

James spent much of those Olympics on the bench, averaging just 5.8 points and 2.6 rebounds in 14.6 minutes per game. Team USA failed to win gold in Athens, becoming the first American team to do that since they began using professionals.

[sportjames23]

Ew dude. Don't stoop to levels of JT and them


You wound me, sir. :(

[WadeStan]

Wade was in a 6th man role as well. :bowdown: 150 minutes overall. I miss this guy.

[ArbitraryWater]

In 8 games, took 34 more shots than Wade and scored 8 less points...

Sign of what was to follow that year, Wade and Bron the best at the Olympics.

[stalkerforlife]

No game was remotely close until the gold medal game, where Kobe of course took over down the stretch.

No one cares about anything other than that gold medal game where the ball became a phucking hot potato until it hit Kobe's hands.

Damage control, Branvestites...won't work.

[HurricaneKid]

Kobe had 20 fewer points than LeBron on 21 more FGAs.

So it was pretty much the same as it always is.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe was the reason we won the game.
Wade individually kept them in position to even be in the game for 3 1/2 quarters ... for Kobe to even have the opportunity to win the game.

That's just as clutch.

And let's not forget he hit a clutch 3 as well just like Kobe in that same pressure packed part of the 4th quarter.

What is it with you and nearly all the other Kobe stans who refuse to give Wade any love? Ridiculous insecurity.

Kobe saved us. Wade was the best player in that game. And he was best in the tournament for Team USA. LeBron was second. Kobe was third best.

Sdot thatdon saying he wasn't one of the best players there is stupidity. He was amazing defensively and set the tone on that end. That was his role and leadership tactic in changing Team USA defensive culture and was the 3rd best offensive player.

And the dude who said Iverson was a National disappointment in 2004? Did you even watch that Olympics? He was our BEST, most consistent and passionate player.

Duncan was the disappointment. That continually gets swept under the rug by apologists.

[Tking714]

Yea but when the rest of the team disappeared Kobe/Wade were the only ones to step up against Spain

[Dragonyeuw]

Wade individually kept them in position to even be in the game for 3 1/2 quarters ... for Kobe to even have the opportunity to win the game.

That's just as clutch.

And let's not forget he hit a clutch 3 as well just like Kobe in that same pressure packed part of the 4th quarter.

What is it with you and nearly all the other Kobe stans who refuse to give Wade any love? Ridiculous insecurity.

Kobe saved us. Wade was the best player in that game. And he was best in the tournament for Team USA. LeBron was second. Kobe was third best.

Sdot thatdon saying he wasn't one of the best players there is stupidity. He was amazing defensively and set the tone on that end. That was his role and leadership tactic in changing Team USA defensive culture and was the 3rd best offensive player.

And the dude who said Iverson was a National disappointment in 2004? Did you even watch that Olympics? He was our BEST, most consistent and passionate player.

Duncan was the disappointment. That continually gets swept under the rug by apologists.

Indeed. Given his stature it's almost shocking how underwhelming Duncan's Olympic performance was.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Indeed. Given his stature it's almost shocking how underwhelming Duncan's Olympic performance was.
What's his excuse? He was at his peak.

Iverson was slightly past his prime. And LeBron, Wade were coming off rookie seasons. Barely played anyway under Brown.

Hell, even the 2006 team that came up short ... those guys were only 3 years in the league. LeBron was only 21 in 2006.

[Dragonyeuw]

What's his excuse? He was at his peak.

Iverson was slightly past his prime. And LeBron, Wade were coming off rookie seasons. Barely played anyway under Brown.

Hell, even the 2006 team that came up short ... those guys were only 3 years in the league. LeBron was only 21 in 2006.

No idea, honestly...

[Chokefree]

Kobe shot awful compared to team USA standards, he was a complete liability on the Dream Team 2.0 in his "prime" years.

Outside of the gold medal game 4th quarter, Kobe was a complete disaster compared to the rest of the team

Shot 20-30 more times then Lebron + Wade with 4-8 less points

http://i.imgur.com/BxtPcrL.png
Are you still mad that kobe said no when you asked for his autograph? Like seriously JT123 you're not fooling anybody...just calm down and blame your parents for not aborting you when they had the chance....no wonder why your parents drink and smoke crack....its because of you.....you useless son of a bitch

[sdot_thadon]

Wade individually kept them in position to even be in the game for 3 1/2 quarters ... for Kobe to even have the opportunity to win the game.

That's just as clutch.

And let's not forget he hit a clutch 3 as well just like Kobe in that same pressure packed part of the 4th quarter.

What is it with you and nearly all the other Kobe stans who refuse to give Wade any love? Ridiculous insecurity.

Kobe saved us. Wade was the best player in that game. And he was best in the tournament for Team USA. LeBron was second. Kobe was third best.

Sdot thatdon saying he wasn't one of the best players there is stupidity. He was amazing defensively and set the tone on that end. That was his role and leadership tactic in changing Team USA defensive culture and was the 3rd best offensive player.

And the dude who said Iverson was a National disappointment in 2004? Did you even watch that Olympics? He was our BEST, most consistent and passionate player.

Duncan was the disappointment. That continually gets swept under the rug by apologists.
I didn't say he was terrible in anyway at all, I actually gave the same reasons for his contributions. I said he wasn't one of the best, as in better than Lebron or Wade over the course of the games. Shoulda just read and asked if you were confused "coach".

[Doranku]

No he wasn't.

Wade had 27 Kobe had 20.

Wade hit a dagger 3 in the 4th and the 4 point Kobe play was off a Wade assist.

Kobe hit like 5 daggers that game and give me a break on the "Wade assist". Kobe got the ball a couple feet behind the 3 point line, jab stepped, and drained the 3 in dude's face. Don't try to give Wade credit for that shit. :oldlol:

It was a 2 point game and Kobe completely took over, scoring or assisting on 12 of the next 15 points.

7:58 Kobe Bryant made Two Point Jumper. 93-89
7:27 Deron Williams made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Kobe Bryant. 96-89
6:49 Dwight Howard made Two Point Dunk Shot. Assisted by Kobe Bryant. 98-89
6:02 Kobe Bryant made Three Point Jumper. 101-92
5:24 LeBron James made Two Point Layup. 103-92
4:22 Dwight Howard made Free Throw. 104-95
3:12 Kobe Bryant made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Dwyane Wade. 107-99
3:10 Kobe Bryant made Free Throw. 108-99

Wade did have a big 3 after that when Spain cut the lead to 108-104, but that was literally all he did in the 4th quarter.

Kobe brought us home the gold. Accept it.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What's his excuse? He was at his peak.

Iverson was slightly past his prime. And LeBron, Wade were coming off rookie seasons. Barely played anyway under Brown.

Hell, even the 2006 team that came up short ... those guys were only 3 years in the league. LeBron was only 21 in 2006.

Now that you mention it, in general, his shortcommings do get swept under the rug.

For the life of me, I'll never understand why Duncan gets a pass for underperforming and playing SOFT as hell in those Olympics. Stats don't begin to show how awful he was. Still though... that USA team was fairly young, and the L wasn't as embarrassing as losing in the WC 2 years later with 2006 Wade and Bron...

[ShaqTwizzle]

What's his excuse? He was at his peak.

That team was poorly put together.
Was run by ball-dominant ISO guards like Iverson & Marbury and had a bunch of really young guys who couldn't shoot.
I also thought the coaching staff did a poor job overall. Don't remember if they were really involved enough or if they sat back expecting their superior talent to get it done.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1447964905355.png

Just a super young team with few experienced big names that were naturally good team players with good portability.

Not sure how much blame Duncan really deserves for them failing.
Clearly the team had major issues unrelated to him.

[iznogood]

Kobe was the team's best perimeter defender though. He focused his energy there. It's clear some of you weren't old enough to have actually watched that team. They dominated every game but the gold medal game. Which was only close because of the extra tight officiating and subsequent early foul trouble they put Team USA in during the first half. Wade kept us in the ball game. Kobe saved us though during the most crucial stretch if we are being fair.
Kobe mostly gambled for steals which made him look really good. I'm not sure if he really was the best defender on that team.

As for him making the shots in the most crucial stretch - let's not forget that he also took a lot of bad ones earlier in the game (and generally most of the time in other games as well) and that those misses was a big part of why the game was even close. So props to him for making the important shots, but if he played with more discipline he didn't even have to make them.

[Doranku]

Kobe mostly gambled for steals which made him look really good. I'm not sure if he really was the best defender on that team.

As for him making the shots in the most crucial stretch - let's not forget that he also took a lot of bad ones earlier in the game (and generally most of the time in other games as well) and that those misses was a big part of why the game was even close. So props to him for making the important shots, but if he played with more discipline he didn't even have to make them.

Yeah, if he didn't miss those THREE whole shots prior to the 4th quarter, there's no way the game would have been close!

We get it, you don't like Kobe. Could've just said that instead of trying to revise history and downplay what he did playing for our country. Some people's hate runs so deep. :oldlol:

[ShaqTwizzle]

downplay what he did playing for our country. Some people's hate runs so deep. :oldlol:

Yeah there there is no need for that.
Then again might it be downplaying Wade's contribution in that game to say that Kobe was the clear MVP?

I haven't revisited that game or even thought of it since back then and I don't remember any specifics but based on posted recollections and stats in this thread it seems like he also has a good and possibly even stronger case for that games MVP title.

[FKAri]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-25374-Michael-Jordan-YEAH-gif-Imgur-X3MA.gif

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe mostly gambled for steals which made him look really good. I'm not sure if he really was the best defender on that team.
No he was their best defender. And he didn't merely gamble for steals. You have no clue what you're talking about. In 2007 and 2008 Kobe played ridiculously sound, frustrating defense. He changed our culture back to what it used to be on that end of the floor the way it was from 1992 to 1996. And no surprise the blow outs returned.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I didn't say he was terrible in anyway at all, I actually gave the same reasons for his contributions. I said he wasn't one of the best, as in better than Lebron or Wade over the course of the games. Shoulda just read and asked if you were confused "coach".
"He definitely wasn't one of the best players"

That implies far from good. When in actuality he was their third best player in the tournament.

So ... yes, you're doing a fine job at back tracking.

[iznogood]

Wade individually kept them in position to even be in the game for 3 1/2 quarters ... for Kobe to even have the opportunity to win the game.

That's just as clutch.

And let's not forget he hit a clutch 3 as well just like Kobe in that same pressure packed part of the 4th quarter.

What is it with you and nearly all the other Kobe stans who refuse to give Wade any love? Ridiculous insecurity.

Kobe saved us. Wade was the best player in that game. And he was best in the tournament for Team USA. LeBron was second. Kobe was third best.

Sdot thatdon saying he wasn't one of the best players there is stupidity. He was amazing defensively and set the tone on that end. That was his role and leadership tactic in changing Team USA defensive culture and was the 3rd best offensive player.

And the dude who said Iverson was a National disappointment in 2004? Did you even watch that Olympics? He was our BEST, most consistent and passionate player.

Duncan was the disappointment. That continually gets swept under the rug by apologists.
How was Duncan a disappointment? He rarely got a good look since other teams let Marbury, Iverson and the rest of the guards take bad outside shots which they did. The team had no shooting and too many guys that wanted to shoot. How is this Duncan's mistake? And I'm not even a Duncan fan, I honestly don't care about him. But this team had many issues and I believe Tim Duncan was not one of them.

Let's not forget that both Marbury and Iverson were getting burned on the defense game after game, especially Iverson.

The games against Lithuania and Argentina are on youtube. Others might be as well. Maybe you should have another look.

[iznogood]

No he was their best defender. And he didn't merely gamble for steals. You have no clue what you're talking about. In 2007 and 2008 Kobe played ridiculously sound, frustrating defense. He changed our culture back to what it used to be on that end of the floor the way it was from 1992 to 1996. And no surprise the blow outs returned.
What he did was gamble a lot and also made a lot of fouls he wasn't called for. This is not sound defense. He put in a lot of effort, but it was the same Kobe defense Phil Jackson criticised.

[SexSymbol]

Kobe was easily the best defender on that team and won USA the gold medal with the clutchest quarter in basketball history.
Just sit down, and let the truth sink in.

[AirFederer]

Lol let's not let the Kobe hate get completely out of hand. He was not the best by all means but worst? GTFO

[AirFederer]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-25374-Michael-Jordan-YEAH-gif-Imgur-X3MA.gif
:lol
:bowdown:

[Doranku]

Yeah there there is no need for that.
Then again might it be downplaying Wade's contribution in that game to say that Kobe was the clear MVP?

I haven't revisited that game or even thought of it since back then and I don't remember any specifics but based on posted recollections and stats in this thread it seems like he also has a good and possibly even stronger case for that games MVP title.

Wade was the best player overall during the Olympics, and he certainly has an argument for MVP of the gold medal game too.

That doesn't change the fact that Kobe took over the game when the momentum had swung in Spain's favor and willed team USA to the promise land. I don't think anyone else on that team could have replicated what Kobe did when crunch time rolled around.

I mean, look at Melo/Bron/Wade in 06 without Kobe. They lost to f*cking Greece, who got ROASTED by 25 points in the finals by... guess who? Spain.... Without Pau Gasol. :lol

Again, Wade was phenomenal overall during the Olympics, and in the gold medal game as well. Just have to give the MVP nod to Kobe for stepping up big time when team USA needed it the most.

[Gus Hemmingway]

No he was their best defender. And he didn't merely gamble for steals. You have no clue what you're talking about. In 2007 and 2008 Kobe played ridiculously sound, frustrating defense. He changed our culture back to what it used to be on that end of the floor the way it was from 1992 to 1996. And no surprise the blow outs returned.

He wasn't the best defender, his "hype" pre-olympics was to be the defensive anchor.. That's it, it was hype. And it was the only thing that Kobe fans settled for after his poor performances. There was three games where Kobes defender dropped the team high

To add, he didn't even defend the best player on any team, Calderon? Ginobli? :lol

Yao
Dirk
Gasol(s)
Masol
Spanolous
Scola

Didn't gaurd any of them

Here's actual facts of EVERY game

China
Lbj 18pts 66%fg
Wade 19pts 100%fg
Kobe 13pts 43%fg

Angolia
Lbj 12pts 71%fg
Wade 19pts 75%fg
Kobe 8pts 30%fg

Greece
Lbj 13pts 50%fg
Wade 17pts 60%fg
Kobe 10pts 50%

Spain
Lbj 18pts 50%fg
Wade 16pts 67%fg
Kobe 11pts 40%fg

Germany
Lbj 18pts 70%fg
Wade 10pts 67%fg
Kobe 13pts 50%fg

Australia
Lbj 16pts 60%fg
Wade 8pts 30%fg
Kobe 25pts 62%fg (Patty Mills scored 20 on Kobe this game)

Argentina
Lbj 15pts 55%fg
Wade 12pts 58%fg
Kobe 12pts 35%fg (Delfino scored 20 on Kobe)

GOLD vs Spain
Lbj 14pts 66%fg
Wade 27pts 75%fg
Kobe 20pts 50%fg (Fernandez scored 22 on Kobe)

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/teamPlay/p/openNodeIDs/6588/selNodeID/6588/fe_teamPlay_teaSear.html

2008 Beijing
Wade >> Lebron >>> USA >> Kobe

[knicksman]

remember when 2004 failed because of the 2 ballhogs(iverson and marbury). Guess who plays the same as them-bran. So not a surprise he asked kobe to win gold for him just like he needed superstacked teams to win rings

[plowking]

Kobe was the best player in the Gold medal game bro. Wade was the better player over the course of the tourney.

Are you seriously this delusional and biased? Fucc, give this ni99a his props for once in your life.

Biased? No, I'm the one that isn't influenced by the media bullshit that Kobe got.

Wade was the top scorer. Wade was the one who picked up the scoring while the other "stars" were on the bench in foul trouble. Wade was the best player over the entire game, and Wade was clutch in the 4th too.

Wade was the best player overall in the game. He was the finals MVP.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Biased? No, I'm the one that isn't influenced by the media bullshit that Kobe got.

Wade was the top scorer. Wade was the one who picked up the scoring while the other "stars" were on the bench in foul trouble. Wade was the best player over the entire game, and Wade was clutch in the 4th too.

Wade was the best player overall in the game. He was the finals MVP.

YEP

He was the gold MVP and the OLYMPICS MVP

[Doranku]

Biased? No, I'm the one that isn't influenced by the media bullshit that Kobe got.

Wade was the top scorer. Wade was the one who picked up the scoring while the other "stars" were on the bench in foul trouble. Wade was the best player over the entire game, and Wade was clutch in the 4th too.

Wade was the best player overall in the game. He was the finals MVP.


Kobe scoring 13 points in the 4th = Media bullshit
Wade scoring 3 points in the 4th = Clutch

Yeah, you aren't biased at all. :roll:

[plowking]

Kobe scoring 13 points in the 4th = Media bullshit
Wade scoring 3 points in the 4th = Clutch

Yeah, you aren't biased at all. :roll:

Hitting a 3 with the game within 4 isn't clutch?

Carrying the team for the half while the two other best players are out with foul trouble isn't clutch?

Is there something fundamentally in built in every Kobe fan that makes them this spastic?

I never said Kobe wasn't clutch, just that he wasn't the best player in the game which the media implied. It was Wade. Kobe was second.

[lakers_forever]

[QUOTE=Bill Simmons, not Kobe biggest fan]Third, for most of the Games, Team USA had an alpha dog issue. Was this Kobe's team or LeBron's? Fast-forward to 8:13 left: Fern

[iznogood]

He wasn't the best defender, his "hype" pre-olympics was to be the defensive anchor.. That's it, it was hype. And it was the only thing that Kobe fans settled for after his poor performances. There was three games where Kobes defender dropped the team high

To add, he didn't even defend the best player on any team, Calderon? Ginobli? :lol

Yao
Dirk
Gasol(s)
Masol
Spanolous
Scola

Didn't gaurd any of them

Here's actual facts of EVERY game

China
Lbj 18pts 66%fg
Wade 19pts 100%fg
Kobe 13pts 43%fg

Angolia
Lbj 12pts 71%fg
Wade 19pts 75%fg
Kobe 8pts 30%fg

Greece
Lbj 13pts 50%fg
Wade 17pts 60%fg
Kobe 10pts 50%

Spain
Lbj 18pts 50%fg
Wade 16pts 67%fg
Kobe 11pts 40%fg

Germany
Lbj 18pts 70%fg
Wade 10pts 67%fg
Kobe 13pts 50%fg

Australia
Lbj 16pts 60%fg
Wade 8pts 30%fg
Kobe 25pts 62%fg (Patty Mills scored 20 on Kobe this game)

Argentina
Lbj 15pts 55%fg
Wade 12pts 58%fg
Kobe 12pts 35%fg (Delfino scored 20 on Kobe)

GOLD vs Spain
Lbj 14pts 66%fg
Wade 27pts 75%fg
Kobe 20pts 50%fg (Fernandez scored 22 on Kobe)

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/teamPlay/p/openNodeIDs/6588/selNodeID/6588/fe_teamPlay_teaSear.html

2008 Beijing
Wade >> Lebron >>> USA >> Kobe
To be fair, Spain's best player in 2008 was not Calderon. It was Navarro who was guarded by Kobe. Still, Navarro scored 18 points on 50% FG and had a very good game as well.

[Gus Hemmingway]

To be fair, Spain's best player in 2008 was not Calderon. It was Navarro who was guarded by Kobe. Still, Navarro scored 18 points on 50% FG and had a very good game as well.
^^ yeah, I gotcha, I was just being sarcastic using the "?"'s when I named em

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