Is Draymond green the second best power forward?

[Lebronxrings]

Triple double tonight 16/10/12.

So is he the second best pf right now?

Blake griffin is obviously number 1
lma is having trouble fitting in with the spurs
ibakas been alright not fully star yet
davis has been exposed as a role player
bosh is still a soft jump shooter

so right now is he second best? It might sound stupid, but who would u take over him? How many guys can score, stretch the floor, pass, rebound, guard 3-5? Hes the best pf defender for sure.

[imdaman99]

Gimme the guy that just dropped 24-14 tonight.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I fully expect davis to be #1 or 2 when he returns and finds form, but for this season I would say draymind is #2. Bosh is somewhere close behind and lma and love have been too inconsistent.

[RRR3]

God no.

1. AD
2. Blake


Then you have LMA, Bosh, Love, and Millsap. IDK about Favors, I haven't watched the Jazz enough. Does his impact match his stat? Dirk is still worth mentioning too.


Cousins too if he counts as a PF now.

[warriorfan]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/5883f948cb712b7b8c2751bd32baa4db/tumblr_mh8yco0GOc1rlzgq1o1_400.gif

[dhsilv]

Sorry but AD is better, not even up for debate. But after him and blake, yeah Green is 3rd. Is there anyone even in the conversation? He's the best defensive power forward and was robbed of DPOY last year. He's not a go to offensive force but he does everything well offensively as a role player. The guy is comically underrated. There are even people who don't realize he's the second best warrior by a mile and he was last year as well.

[LoneyROY7]

God no.

1. AD
2. Blake


Then you have LMA, Bosh, Love, and Millsap. IDK about Favors, I haven't watched the Jazz enough. Does his impact match his stat? Dirk is still worth mentioning too.


Cousins too if he counts as a PF now.

:facepalm

[WayOfWade]

God no.

1. AD
2. Blake


Then you have LMA, Bosh, Love, and Millsap. IDK about Favors, I haven't watched the Jazz enough. Does his impact match his stat? Dirk is still worth mentioning too.


Cousins too if he counts as a PF now.
Favors is pretty good; he's not a defensive anchor like Gobert, but his stats definetly showcase his worth. He just needs to work on his range and FT a little bit

[Lebronxrings]

God no.

1. AD
2. Blake


Then you have LMA, Bosh, Love, and Millsap. IDK about Favors, I haven't watched the Jazz enough. Does his impact match his stat? Dirk is still worth mentioning too.


Cousins too if he counts as a PF now.
hes better than all of them except griffin. None of those guys are good defenders. Draymond green has top tier defense.

Hes also the best passing big man.

[RRR3]

:facepalm
Literally no one in their right mind ranked Blake over AD before the season started. LMAO @ you acting like that's a dumb thing to say by any stretch of the imagination. You're lucky I ranked Flake 2nd.

[LoneyROY7]

Literally no one in their right mind ranked Blake over AD before the season started. LMAO @ you acting like that's a dumb thing to say by any stretch of the imagination. You're lucky I ranked Flake 2nd.

It's pretty obvious to everyone who watches basketball right now that Blake is the best PF in the game. Stay on them preseason rankings doe. :applause:

[Lebronxrings]

top 5 rankings as of now:

Griffin
green
aldridge
ibaka
davis

[SpaceJam]

Ridiculous that Draymond is even mentioned in the top 5 PF's

[bdreason]

Based on this season only?


Griffin

DrayGod

Bosh

Love

Millsap

[masonanddixon]

Dirk is still the best.

lol at Draymond Green. He's a role player on an excellent team. He's not even a power forward anyways.

[masonanddixon]

Ridiculous that Draymond is even mentioned in the top 5 PF's

Just shows how far the board has fallen.

[Lebronxrings]

lol @ posters acting like its stupid. Name 5 better powerforwards then. Come on trolls, please list me names.

[LikeMike]

Triple double tonight 16/10/12.

So is he the second best pf right now?

Blake griffin is obviously number 1
lma is having trouble fitting in with the spurs
ibakas been alright not fully star yet
davis has been exposed as a role player
bosh is still a soft jump shooter

so right now is he second best? It might sound stupid, but who would u take over him? How many guys can score, stretch the floor, pass, rebound, guard 3-5? Hes the best pf defender for sure.

:coleman:

[HenryGarfunkle]

i have davis as the best power forward of all time

after that draymond is duking it out with blake for 2nd best currently

blake is a better scorer, but draymond is better all-around, and plays great system basketball

blakes game is flat-out ugly compared to green

[Genaro]

Great defender but offensively he's boosted by all the attention Curry draw. I wouldn't put him in the top 5 though I would love have a guy like him on my team.

[ZMonkey11]

i have davis as the best power forward of all time

after that draymond is duking it out with blake for 2nd best currently

blake is a better scorer, but draymond is better all-around, and plays great system basketball

blakes game is flat-out ugly compared to green

I know you want attention and here is a little bit.

But, stupidity is not the way about getting it.

[Lebronxrings]

Great defender but offensively he's boosted by all the attention Curry draw. I wouldn't put him in the top 5 though I would love have a guy like him on my team.
so whos over him? Griffin for sure. Not davis, hes terrible in the clutch.

[SpaceJam]

lol @ posters acting like its stupid. Name 5 better powerforwards then. Come on trolls, please list me names.

AD
Griffin
LMA
Love
Bosh

Arguable below

Milsap
Ibaka
Gasol
Dirk

Great team player, but as a first option, over at least 5 of those above players...no just no :biggums:

[Naero]

Draymon Green is a superb role-player and may even evolve his titular recognition into All-Star status this year, but his playmaking skills are overrated, and this question exemplifies how triple-doubles are the most overrated stats on basketball--especially when they're teammate-relatively impactless.

Dissimilar to systems that rely on a ball-dominant orchestrator to do the better load of playmaking, the Warriors are very ball-movement-happy and thus tend to be faster to make the extra pass; as such, Curry receives many secondary and tertiary assists, as he tends to be the initiator of the ball movement as the other cogs funnel his passes into eventual points.

The genesis for most of Green's assists were simply done while he was the intermediary passer after Curry suctioned in the defensive attention, as Green would hit the open player after Curry plunged the defense into disarray. It may result in more box-score assists for Green, but those of us who watch the games know that he's not nearly as impactful of a facilitator as Curry is when you contextualize the eye test.

[Duderonomy]

Draymond is not on Love or younger Bosh's level. Lebron agenda busted.

[warriorfan]

Draymon Green is a superb role-player and may even evolve his titular recognition into All-Star status this year, but his playmaking skills are overrated, and this question exemplifies how triple-doubles are the most overrated stats on basketball--especially when they're teammate-relatively impactless.

Dissimilar to systems that rely on a ball-dominant orchestrator to do the better load of playmaking, the Warriors are very ball-movement-happy and thus tend to be faster to make the extra pass; as such, Curry receives many secondary and tertiary assists, as he tends to be the initiator of the ball movement as the other cogs funnel his passes into eventual points.

The genesis for most of Green's assists were simply done while he was the intermediary passer after Curry suctioned in the defensive attention, as Green would hit the open player after Curry plunged the defense into disarray. It may result in more box-score assists for Green, but those of us who watch the games know that he's not nearly as impactful of a facilitator as Curry is when you contextualize the eye test.

True

[3ball]

Triple double tonight 16/10/12.

So is he the second best pf right now?


You better hope not because that would confirm that today's era is the weakest of all time.

I remember when Karl Malone was the 2nd best PF

[Chokefree]

lol @ posters acting like its stupid. Name 5 better powerforwards then. Come on trolls, please list me names.
Damn you have lebronze as your name but have a curry avy....you got insecurity problems son :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebronxrings]

Draymon Green is a superb role-player and may even evolve his titular recognition into All-Star status this year, but his playmaking skills are overrated, and this question exemplifies how triple-doubles are the most overrated stats on basketball--especially when they're teammate-relatively impactless.

Dissimilar to systems that rely on a ball-dominant orchestrator to do the better load of playmaking, the Warriors are very ball-movement-happy and thus tend to be faster to make the extra pass; as such, Curry receives many secondary and tertiary assists, as he tends to be the initiator of the ball movement as the other cogs funnel his passes into eventual points.

The genesis for most of Green's assists were simply done while he was the intermediary passer after Curry suctioned in the defensive attention, as Green would hit the open player after Curry plunged the defense into disarray. It may result in more box-score assists for Green, but those of us who watch the games know that he's not nearly as impactful of a facilitator as Curry is when you contextualize the eye test.
this is horeshit and you know it. Stop trying to lie yourself out of this.

[juju151111]

AD
Griffin
LMA
Love
Bosh

Arguable below

Milsap
Ibaka
Gasol
Dirk

Great team player, but as a first option, over at least 5 of those above players...no just no :biggums:
How the **** is love better

[3ball]

Draymond Green is a superb role-player and may even evolve his titular recognition into All-Star status this year, but his playmaking skills are overrated, and this question exemplifies how triple-doubles are the most overrated stats on basketball--especially when they're teammate-relatively impactless.

Dissimilar to systems that rely on a ball-dominant orchestrator to do the better load of playmaking, the Warriors are very ball-movement-happy and thus tend to be faster to make the extra pass; as such, Curry receives many secondary and tertiary assists, as he tends to be the initiator of the ball movement as the other cogs funnel his passes into eventual points.

The genesis for most of Green's assists were simply done while he was the intermediary passer after Curry suctioned in the defensive attention, as Green would hit the open player after Curry plunged the defense into disarray. It may result in more box-score assists for Green, but those of us who watch the games know that he's not nearly as impactful of a facilitator as Curry is when you contextualize the eye test.


Spot on - this is how Pippen got his assists - Pippen was a basic ballhandler, not a pg-level creator, nor was he the player that "suctioned the defense's attention"... Obviously, it was MJ's job to suction the defenses attention (just like Curry), and he did it better than anyone.

Pippen's "offense initiation" consisted of tossing the ball to MJ so he could playmake from the post or wing... Or he did like Draymond by being the intermediary passer after MJ "plunged the defense into disarray" (I couldn't have said it better).

With the Bulls, the offense ran through MJ.. That's why there's very little highlights of Pippen tossing dimes in the halfcourt like there are for MJ - he couldn't create off-the-dribble like MJ.. Pippen's dribbling was merely *noticed and pointed out more* because it comes from the forward position, where ballhandling is more of a novelty.

It should be noted that MJ assisted on a higher percentage of teammate FG's during the first and second 3-peat - this is statistical fact (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713019&postcount=44).. Again, don't be surprised - MJ was a guard and the teams' best ballhandler/creator, so it was standard, not a novelty.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Triple double tonight 16/10/12.

So is he the second best pf right now?

Blake griffin is obviously number 1
lma is having trouble fitting in with the spurs
ibakas been alright not fully star yet
davis has been exposed as a role player
bosh is still a soft jump shooter

so right now is he second best? It might sound stupid, but who would u take over him? How many guys can score, stretch the floor, pass, rebound, guard 3-5? Hes the best pf defender for sure.
:biggums:

Wtf? Just cause his team sucks dong, doesn't mean he's a role player.

[SaltyMeatballs]

lol @ posters acting like its stupid. Name 5 better powerforwards then. Come on trolls, please list me names.
THE ****ING IRONY!! :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/fVLfY.gif

[SHAQisGOAT]

Like I've said before, imho he'll go down in history amongst names like Bobby Jones, Manu Ginobili, Dennis Rodman, Michael Cooper... As one of the greatest role-players ever (if you wanna call some of them that, depends of definition tbh)...

[WorldWarriors]

I don't know where he ranks. He's not your average power forward. He's definitely the most versatile.

I'll just leave this here.

https://youtu.be/jb9PhXEOLM4

[knicksman]

and this is why curry is a winner while bran is a loser. Curry making his teammates better while bran making former all stars role players.

[AcquiringSteak]

and this is why curry is a winner while bran is a loser. Curry making his teammates better while bran making former all stars role players.

2>1, 4>1
Next.

[Smoke117]

Spot on - this is how Pippen got his assists - Pippen was a basic ballhandler, not a pg-level creator, nor was he the player that "suctioned the defense's attention"... Obviously, it was MJ's job to suction the defenses attention (just like Curry), and he did it better than anyone.

Pippen's "offense initiation" consisted of tossing the ball to MJ so he could playmake from the post or wing... Or he did like Draymond by being the intermediary passer after MJ "plunged the defense into disarray" (I couldn't have said it better).

With the Bulls, the offense ran through MJ.. That's why there's very little highlights of Pippen tossing dimes in the halfcourt like there are for MJ - he couldn't create off-the-dribble like MJ.. Pippen's dribbling was merely *noticed and pointed out more* because it comes from the forward position, where ballhandling is more of a novelty.

It should be noted that MJ assisted on a higher percentage of teammate FG's during the first and second 3-peat - this is statistical fact (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713019&postcount=44).. Again, don't be surprised - MJ was a guard and the teams' best ballhandler/creator, so it was standard, not a novelty.

We know...we know...you could have given MJ any teammates and he would won 6 championships. That's your point, right? You go out of your way to belittle every teammate Jordan has ever played with, so it must be. I like how Ish is the wild west, but in the wild west, people also died...a lot...and I wish you would just be banned and die off from here. In your brain damaged head, Jordan was the most elite at every aspect of basketball, right?

[knicksman]

2>1, 4>1
Next.

youre behind brah. 1/1>>2/6

[SpaceJam]

How the **** is love better

How isn't he? Just because he has been diminished on the Cavs team via LeBron ball, we forget about the 26/12 numbers he put up :biggums:

Do we know what Draymond would do as a first option, we have seen what Love is capable of...

You're gonna take Green over Love to build a team around?

[bobopenguin]

Triple double tonight 16/10/12.

So is he the second best pf right now?

Blake griffin is obviously number 1
lma is having trouble fitting in with the spurs
ibakas been alright not fully star yet
davis has been exposed as a role player
bosh is still a soft jump shooter

so right now is he second best? It might sound stupid, but who would u take over him? How many guys can score, stretch the floor, pass, rebound, guard 3-5? Hes the best pf defender for sure.

ok,

pls write a email to tell pelicans to trade AD for Green.

[Hopper15]

2>1, 4>1
Next.

Curry didn't have to jump ship to win a title.

[3ball]

We know...we know...you could have given MJ any teammates and he would won 6 championships. That's your point, right? You go out of your way to belittle every teammate Jordan has ever played with, so it must be. I like how Ish is the wild west, but in the wild west, people also died...a lot...and I wish you would just be banned and die off from here. In your brain damaged head, Jordan was the most elite at every aspect of basketball, right?
blah blah blah what a beta post

i do as i please, which is shitting on today's league.. i remember when Karl Malone was the 2nd best PF... now it's some 9 ppg stiff "facilitator"... code for "no moves"