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warriorfan
11-16-2015, 05:10 PM
Then why do they have the best offense in the L as well then? :confusedshrug:

Akrazotile
11-16-2015, 05:13 PM
Because they have a great scorer in the first three quarters in Steph Curry, and then a great closer in Andre F. MVP

ShawkFactory
11-16-2015, 05:13 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?

FKAri
11-16-2015, 05:13 PM
They can also all pass....and shoot...and there aren't any boneheaded chuckers...or ball stoppers...or shitty coaches (lol @ Luke Walton doe, lucky ass MF).

kurple
11-16-2015, 05:14 PM
Because of Luke Walton obviously

kurple
11-16-2015, 05:14 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?
::oldlol: :oldlol:

outbreak
11-16-2015, 05:34 PM
Andrew Bogut = Role Player, scored 6 points per game last season
Andre Iguodala = Role Player, 13 points per game for his career, 33% career 3 point shooter
Harrison Barnes = Role Player, career average 10 points per game, 1 assist, .530 TS%
Draymond Green = Role Player, drafted 2nd round, 35th overall, Carreer average 7 points a game, 33% career 3 point shooter
Festus Ezeli = Role Player, drafted 30th overall, career average of 3.6 points a game and 13 minutes per game
Klay Thompson = 3&D Role Player, scored 15 points 1 rebound on .500% TS in the finals. Disappears often and may have Autism.
Leandro Barbosa = Lower end Role Player, 33 years old and career average of 11 points and 2 assists per game
Shawn Livingston = Lower end Role Player suffering from being somewhat crippled. Career average of a whopping 6.8 points per game.
Mo Speights = Role Player with a career average of 7.2 points per game

Andrew Bogut = Great interior defender, has had numerous double double seasons
Andre Iguodala = Elite defender, has had seasons putting up ~20ppg when needed
Harrison Barnes = Solid all round player, still young and hasn't hit his stride yet but plays well on both ends and put up double figures in points last season while shooting just under 50% and 40% from three
Draymond Green = Another double digit scorer who has a solid 33% from deep which is above league average for a power forward and he is an above average defender too. Also a great passer for his position.
Festus Ezeli = Average garbage man type hustle big
Klay Thompson = Perhaps the best second option in the league right now, averaging 17ppg for his career while shooting above 40% from deep. Coming off a 22ppg season last year while also being an above average defender.
Leandro Barbosa = Not what he used to be but this is another vet who's had seasons scoring ~15ppg in the past. Career 38% 3pt shooting and a canny vet to come in off the bench.
Shawn Livingston = Solid play maker off the bench, lost his athleticism with the injury but he's still a cool head under pressure and doesn't turn if over too much.
Mo Speights = Decent all round big man to fill out the rotations. Nothing too special though

Team is packed with guys who don't need to put up big numbers on this team but have had the skills to do it in the past and are experienced in doing what's needed for the team.

Levity
11-16-2015, 05:37 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?

:cheers:

feyki
11-16-2015, 05:38 PM
Troll thread.

warriorfan
11-16-2015, 05:39 PM
Team is packed with guys who don't need to put up big numbers on this team but have had the skills to do it in the past and are experienced in doing what's needed for the team.

Care to elaborate on this at all?

catch24
11-16-2015, 05:42 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?

:oldlol:

HenryGarfunkle
11-16-2015, 05:42 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?
:roll:

Guy is actually retarded.

Gus Hemmingway
11-16-2015, 05:44 PM
People say Catherine Zeta-Jones is sexy..

So why then are Cheester's hot fries delicious?
:lol :lol :lol


And this guy is the face of the Curry family :oldlol:

FKAri
11-16-2015, 05:46 PM
People say "Warriorsfan is so good, he takes all the great D's!"

outbreak
11-16-2015, 05:56 PM
Care to elaborate on this at all?
Read the above. They have a bunch of players who've been among the top scorers on their team in the past. Yes they are older now and aren't needed to do that role on this team but they've proven that they know how to score which can be handy down the stretch on a contending team.

TheMilkyBarKid
11-16-2015, 05:57 PM
Andrew Bogut = Role Player, scored 6 points per game last season
Andre Iguodala = Role Player, 13 points per game for his career, 33% career 3 point shooter
Harrison Barnes = Role Player, career average 10 points per game, 1 assist, .530 TS%
Draymond Green = Role Player, drafted 2nd round, 35th overall, Carreer average 7 points a game, 33% career 3 point shooter
Festus Ezeli = Role Player, drafted 30th overall, career average of 3.6 points a game and 13 minutes per game
Klay Thompson = 3&D Role Player, scored 15 points 1 rebound on .500% TS in the finals. Disappears often and may have Autism.
Leandro Barbosa = Lower end Role Player, 33 years old and career average of 11 points and 2 assists per game
Shawn Livingston = Lower end Role Player suffering from being somewhat crippled. Career average of a whopping 6.8 points per game.
Mo Speights = Role Player with a career average of 7.2 points per game
You don't sound like much of a warriors fan.

outbreak
11-16-2015, 05:58 PM
You don't sound like much of a warriors fan.
He ordered a Curry jersey with the warriors lettering removed.

warriorfan
11-16-2015, 05:59 PM
Read the above. They have a bunch of players who've been among the top scorers on their team in the past. Yes they are older now and aren't needed to do that role on this team but they've proven that they know how to score which can be handy down the stretch on a contending team.

Bunch of players among the top scorers on their team in the past? Who?!

FKAri
11-16-2015, 06:03 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11866836&postcount=1

Reported for multiposting. Ban this clown.

outbreak
11-16-2015, 06:04 PM
Bunch of players among the top scorers on their team in the past? Who?!
bogut was the second best scorer on some of those bucks teams
iggy's lead philly in scoring before
Barbosa's been second best scorer on the suns
Klay's scored more than some teams primary scorers

They have a very solid line up and if you weren't trolling and melting down so hard you'd realise that.

warriorfan
11-16-2015, 06:17 PM
bogut was the second best scorer on some of those bucks teams
iggy's lead philly in scoring before
Barbosa's been second best scorer on the suns
Klay's scored more than some teams primary scorers

They have a very solid line up and if you weren't trolling and melting down so hard you'd realise that.


Bogut. That was ALONG time ago but more importantly it was BEFORE he snapped his arm in two!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejfPWH5MPME (Warning: Very Graphic)

Remember that? After the Injury Bogut's arm literally healed differently than it was before, his arm is not completely straight anymore. The reason Bogut struggles offensively is because of his injured arm and the fact that now he is over 30 years old.


Barbosa. I'm pretty sure Barbosa has never been 2nd in his team in scoring. If he did however it had to been literally over 10 years ago. So yeah.


Iguodala. Iguodala used to be able to reach in the high teens in points per game but that was over 5 years ago as well, and at the time he was not exerting himself like he was defensively. Iguodala has increased his defense but it has come at a cost of his offense.

warriorfan
11-16-2015, 06:18 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11866836&postcount=1

Reported for multiposting. Ban this clown.

why you snitching bro? both posts were relevant in the basketball discussion...

Fire Colangelo
11-16-2015, 06:25 PM
:roll:

Lebron and Kobe at least had very interesting stans.



Then you have this guy that can't even put up an argument :roll:

FKAri
11-16-2015, 06:27 PM
why you snitching bro? both posts were relevant in the basketball discussion...

lol and now yo go and delete the posts.

I got my eye on you

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1714994_o.gif

warriorfan
11-16-2015, 06:29 PM
lol and now yo go and delete the posts.

I got my eye on you

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1714994_o.gif

I didn't delete anything bro :eek:

lets just keep it clean, no snitching :rockon:

FKAri
11-16-2015, 06:31 PM
I didn't delete anything bro :eek:

lets just keep it clean, no snitching :rockon:

I guess the posters in this thread just love ghost quoting then

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1714994_o.gif

WorldWarriors
11-16-2015, 07:05 PM
Read the above. They have a bunch of players who've been among the top scorers on their team in the past. Yes they are older now and aren't needed to do that role on this team but they've proven that they know how to score which can be handy down the stretch on a contending team.

A Bunch? I see 2 at the most. Iggy and Barbosa. I don't think Bogut has stayed healthy enough to be the top anything.

outbreak
11-16-2015, 07:20 PM
A Bunch? I see 2 at the most. Iggy and Barbosa. I don't think Bogut has stayed healthy enough to be the top anything.
I didn't say top I said amongst the top which does include bogut. Point being they have a lot of guys who've had big roles on previous teams in the past. Yes they are older now but they still have proven records which is great to have down the stretch of the play offs.

WorldWarriors
11-16-2015, 07:28 PM
I didn't say top I said amongst the top which does include bogut. Point being they have a lot of guys who've had big roles on previous teams in the past. Yes they are older now but they still have proven records which is great to have down the stretch of the play offs.

That's still not a lot. We only have 3 out of 15 that has any kind of proven record. That's not a lot by any stretch.
Not that I care about the original argument. I just wanted to point that out.

By the way you said among the top scorers. I knew I wasn't crazy to take Bogut out of that equation.

dhsilv
11-16-2015, 07:41 PM
I hate when people make posts trying to lead people on to make a point they could have just posted in a well thought out post. Instead they insult everyone reading with an insulting question to lead them into their "trap".

Gus Hemmingway
11-16-2015, 07:48 PM
I hate when people make posts trying to lead people on to make a point they could have just posted in a well thought out post. Instead they insult everyone reading with an insulting question to lead them into their "trap".

the etiquette of bad trolling my friend

outbreak
11-16-2015, 07:55 PM
That's still not a lot. We only have 3 out of 15 that has any kind of proven record. That's not a lot by any stretch.
Not that I care about the original argument. I just wanted to point that out.

By the way you said among the top scorers. I knew I wasn't crazy to take Bogut out of that equation.
Among the top scorers includes bogut? It means he was among the best scorers on his team which he was for a few seasons. Out of the 8 players he listed there's 3 and then there's klay putting up more points than a lot of teams leading scorers so he can be included to and that's half the guys. Then you have people like ezeli, livingston who aren't scorers but fill their role correctly.

WorldWarriors
11-16-2015, 08:02 PM
Among the top scorers includes bogut? It means he was among the best scorers on his team which he was for a few seasons. Out of the 8 players he listed there's 3 and then there's klay putting up more points than a lot of teams leading scorers so he can be included to and that's half the guys. Then you have people like ezeli, livingston who aren't scorers but fill their role correctly.

Bogut averaged only about 12-15 pts a game. I don't think that's a top scorer for the Bucks. I have to go back and look at that.

I mean you can include Klay if you want now. But that's not what you posted originally. I don't care if you say we have great players. I love my team. I hope we keep winning. But Warriors are good because they drafted Curry and drafted well at the other positions surrounding him. Then they went out and got some high IQ (not Speights) vets that can help steady their nerves. It's brilliant what they have done.

outbreak
11-16-2015, 08:12 PM
Bogut averaged only about 12-15 pts a game. I don't think that's a top scorer for the Bucks. I have to go back and look at that.

I mean you can include Klay if you want now. But that's not what you posted originally. I don't care if you say we have great players. I love my team. I hope we keep winning. But Warriors are good because they drafted Curry and drafted well at the other positions surrounding him. Then they went out and got some high IQ (not Speights) vets that can help steady their nerves. It's brilliant what they have done.

I'm pretty sure bogut was second or third for a few years in his peak.

I agree it's brilliant what they've done. I really like the warriors and right now Curry is probably my favourite non orlando player and I think it's amazing what he's doing. They've built the team the exact right way and I really like the way they've put together a strong team with out needing multiple star level players but by having depth and smart players who fit the system. To me stacked isn't an insult and I wouldn't use it implying that they've got star level players but in this case i'd use it implying they have quality depth and are full of guys who fit perfectly for the role required. Which is a credit to their management not an insult. My point was that warriorfan was only citing the bad parts of players resumes while leaving out the good, they have guys who've proven they are competent scorers in the past. They can't do it night in and night out but if curry's having an off night they have guys who can try and step up and in general they have quite a few guys you can't just ignore because they have the threat of going off even if only rarely these days.

I'm not saying the warriors are a manufactured team like the heat.

WorldWarriors
11-16-2015, 08:17 PM
I'm pretty sure bogut was second or third for a few years in his peak.

I agree it's brilliant what they've done. I really like the warriors and right now Curry is probably my favourite non orlando player and I think it's amazing what he's doing. They've built the team the exact right way and I really like the way they've put together a strong team with out needing multiple star level players but by having depth and smart players who fit the system. To me stacked isn't an insult and I wouldn't use it implying that they've got star level players but in this case i'd use it implying they have quality depth and are full of guys who fit perfectly for the role required. Which is a credit to their management not an insult.


Agreed. When I think of stacked I think of players joining teams that are already contenders, like Barkley did with the Rockets, lol. Or even with Drexler going to the rockets when they already had Hakeem, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell, Horry etc.

Or when Payton and Malone joined Shaq and Kobe that year. Well that's more than stacked, lol.

outbreak
11-16-2015, 08:21 PM
Agreed. When I think of stacked I think of players joining teams that are already contenders, like Barkley did with the Rockets, lol. Or even with Drexler going to the rockets when they already had Hakeem, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell, Horry etc.

Or when Payton and Malone joined Shaq and Kobe that year. Well that's more than stacked, lol.
When i think stacked I just think of teams with a lot of depth and above average guys that help cover your teams weaknessess. Warriorfan has taken things to extremes though in trying to make out like guys like Klay and Draymond are actually scrub players. He just keeps making threads trying to diss his own teams players which is annoying as hell.

Smoke117
11-16-2015, 08:21 PM
He ordered a Curry jersey with the warriors lettering removed.

lol, I could legit see that with this bitch. He's definitely more of a Curry stan than a warriors fan that's for sure.

knicksman
11-16-2015, 08:49 PM
its easier to be stacked on defense than offense. Defense is the easiest part of this game. All players aim to play offense first and when they realize they cant, they now focus on defense or theyll be out of the league. Thats why you can find role players to play defense. But offense is another story and I dont think theyre stacked offense wise. Curry game just fits in a team concept that he makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts. If this was lebron on GSW, I doubt they would be better.

Fudge
11-16-2015, 09:01 PM
Most stacked team in the league.

Be grateful and stop melting down, fam.