British beautician arrested over posting "racist" and "anti-Muslim" Facebook posts.

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April Major of Bicester, Oxfordshire, had stated on social media that she would no longer accept appointments from clients of "Islamic Faith" at her business Blinks of Bicester.

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The 43-year-old woman said the salon would not no longer taking bookings from Muslims "whether you are UK granted with passport or not".

She added: "Sorry but time to put my country first."

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She made the statements on Friday, hours after the Paris attacks which claimed the lives of 132 people.

But the backlash was rapid and fierce, with people on social media firing back at Ms Major and the constabulary soon taking an interest.

Yahoo! News UK reports that Ms Major was arrested after Thames police received complaints about the post.

She has been released on bail until November 30.

A Thames Valley Police spokeswoman said: 'We have arrested a 43-year-old woman in Bicester today after a number of complaints about a racially abusive post on social media.

“The woman was arrested under section 19 of the Public Order Act which relates to the display of written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention of stirring up racial hatred, and for producing malicious communications.”

While critics fired comments and posted calling Ms Major racist, ignorant and vile, satirical comments also packed a punch, mocking Ms Major and her offensive stance.

Robert Sharpe wrote: “I visited this fine establishment some days ago and spotted very nice looking guard towers with members of staff machine gunning anybody Muslim looking because it was “better to be safe then sorry.”

Craig Young added: “I went to blinks for eyelash extensions and they removed my eyeballs and replaced them with hobnobs. Was not impressed.”

Hmmm....

[9erempiree]

No surprise here.

That's how they work over there.

They don't take kindly to that sort of talk whether it's racist or not. John Terry had a similar instance.

[step_back]

No surprise here.

That's how they work over there.

They don't take kindly to that sort of talk whether it's racist or not. John Terry had a similar instance.

In the 1930's Germans started refusing to serve members of the Jewish community. If you allow someone to start persecuting a particular type you can bet it will lead to further persecution from others. Fascism has no place in Europe, so yeah that's how we work over here. We don't want people like that.

I also fail to see how a beautician can be "putting her country first" by refusing to serve Muslims. You'd think she was running a soup kitchen for the homeless with a remark like that.

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In the 1930's Germans started refusing to serve members of the Jewish community. If you allow someone to start persecuting a particular type you can bet it will lead to further persecution from others. Fascism has no place in Europe, so yeah that's how we work over here. We don't want people like that.

I also fail to see how a beautician can be "putting her country first" by refusing to serve Muslims. You'd think she was running a soup kitchen for the homeless with a remark like that.
She obviously is a bit misguided, but it does not change the fact that there are issues at hand here. Fascism might be an extreme conservative style that discriminates, but it was also some of the most productive years. Take Fascist Italy for example. Everyone had jobs, there was always things to do... Not quite the totalitarian hell hole the left makes it seem. Some even argue that Fascism was started by the left... But that's another issue.

How much freedom are we allowing the government to control business and trade? Can an owner not choose to whom he or she wishes to exchange business with? How backwards have we gotten with discrimination and racism... The progressives have exploited it, it is amazing how many don't realize what's going on here

[CasterL]

Morons like this are giving ISIS exactly what they want.

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Morons like this are giving ISIS exactly what they want.
I agree to an extent

But that's not the issue here

It's how much say and control the government has on business/trading, stifling upon the very pillars of society. Freedom of speech?

[StephHamann]

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It's funny how the left has become an absolute laughing stock

[NumberSix]

In the 1930's Germans started refusing to serve members of the Jewish community. If you allow someone to start persecuting a particular type you can bet it will lead to further persecution from others. Fascism has no place in Europe, so yeah that's how we work over here. We don't want people like that.

I also fail to see how a beautician can be "putting her country first" by refusing to serve Muslims. You'd think she was running a soup kitchen for the homeless with a remark like that.
You don't know what "fascism" is. People throw it around so loosely to the point that it has no meaning.

You know what the opposite of fascism is? The rights of the individual. Two of the most fundamental individual rights being free speech and property rights, both of which you apparently want to deny her.

Who the hell are you to tell her what she is allowed to say and what she is allowed to do with her property?

[iamgine]

You don't know what "fascism" is. People throw it around so loosely to the point that it has no meaning.

You know what the opposite of fascism is? The rights of the individual. Two of the most fundamental individual rights being free speech and property rights, both of which you apparently want to deny her.

Who the hell are you to tell her what she is allowed to say and what she is allowed to do with her property?
There is no such thing.

For example, if you throw your $1000 inside a homeless shelter, or if you shout "Fire" in a crowded place, you can be arrested for inciting fights. Anything that causes public disturbance, you can be reported for.

I'm not sure she should be arrested in this case but the point is, free speech is not unlimited.

[NumberSix]

There is no such thing.

For example, if you throw your $1000 inside a homeless shelter, or if you shout "Fire" in a crowded place, you can be arrested for inciting fights. Anything that causes public disturbance, you can be reported for.

I'm not sure she should be arrested in this case but the point is, free speech is not unlimited.
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Yes, we all understand that threats of violence, inciting violence, etc... Doesn't fall under free speech. We don't need to waste time with this.

Declaring who you do or don't wish to sell your property to however obviously does.

[ThePhantomCreep]

You don't know what "fascism" is. People throw it around so loosely to the point that it has no meaning.

You know what the opposite of fascism is? The rights of the individual. Two of the most fundamental individual rights being free speech and property rights, both of which you apparently want to deny her.

Who the hell are you to tell her what she is allowed to say and what she is allowed to do with her property?

You miss this, don't you?

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Nah, I'd rather my government not allow shit like that. The miserable (likely conservative) cvnt can say whatever she wants though. JMO.

[NumberSix]

You miss this, don't you?

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Avoid an argument and imply someone is racist. Wow, what a fresh new tactic.

[SexSymbol]

she's not racist, she just doesn't want to die

[ThePhantomCreep]

Avoid an argument and imply someone is racist. Wow, what a fresh new tactic.

Aren't you the limited government warrior who wants to give business owners the right to deny service to those they feel are undesirable? :confusedshrug:

[Springsteen]

she's not racist, she just doesn't want to die

Jesus christ.

I guess she should ban Lithuanians too, since they were once occupied by Nazis. Who knows if they might have some sleeper agents among them?

[ArbitraryWater]

In the 1930's Germans started refusing to serve members of the Jewish community. If you allow someone to start persecuting a particular type you can bet it will lead to further persecution from others. Fascism has no place in Europe, so yeah that's how we work over here. We don't want people like that.

I also fail to see how a beautician can be "putting her country first" by refusing to serve Muslims. You'd think she was running a soup kitchen for the homeless with a remark like that.

Bingo.

Correct decision made.


I agree to an extent

But that's not the issue here

It's how much say and control the government has on business/trading, stifling upon the very pillars of society. Freedom of speech?

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech

[dunksby]

Jesus christ.

I guess she should ban Lithuanians too, since they were once occupied by Nazis. Who knows if they might have some sleeper agents among them?
These Eastern block assholes are just mad because their parents couldn't run away to a free country back in the communism days now they are stuck living in a shithole. They wish they could seek asylum to a decent country like the refugees, what hurts them most is that not even the refugees from war torn countries wanna live in a piece of crap country like Lithuania.

[ArbitraryWater]

These Eastern block assholes are just mad because their parents couldn't run away to a free country back in the communism days now they are stuck living in a shithole. They wish they could seek asylum to a decent country like the refugees, what hurts them most is that not even the refugees from war torn countries wanna live in a piece of crap country like Lithuania.

dam :oldlol:

[StephHamann]

These Eastern block assholes are just mad because their parents couldn't run away to a free country back in the communism days now they are stuck living in a shithole. They wish they could seek asylum to a decent country like the refugees, what hurts them most is that not even the refugees from war torn countries wanna live in a piece of crap country like Lithuania.

That's racist.

Lithuanians are in the EU you idiot, they can go whereever they want.

Jesus Christ :facepalm

"Refugees" want money for nothing, and only Germany Sweden UK are stupid enough to give it to them for free.

[poido123]

Take a deep breath world.


We must be really careful that we don't fall for the trap here.


ISIL wants this division, don't give it to them.

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Bingo.

Correct decision made.



This has nothing to do with freedom of speech
Freedom of speech has many meanings kid

If you can't see the overstep by the government then you are an idiot

[NumberSix]

Aren't you the limited government warrior who wants to give business owners the right to deny service to those they feel are undesirable? :confusedshrug:
Yes. That's not what you meant by saying "you miss no coloreds allowed signs", which I wasn't even alive for.

I'm not in favor of businesses discriminating against people. But I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in property rights. Just like I'm not in favor of groups like the KKK marching around saying disgusting hateful things, but I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in free speech. You take the good with the bad. I have no desire to rule other people's lives.

[ArbitraryWater]

Freedom of speech has many meanings kid

If you can't see the overstep by the government then you are an idiot

and that wasnt one of em :oldlol:

[Springsteen]

Yes. That's not what you meant by saying "you miss no coloreds allowed signs", which I wasn't even alive for.

I'm not in favor of businesses discriminating against people. But I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in property rights. Just like I'm not in favor of groups like the KKK marching around saying disgusting hateful things, but I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in free speech. You take the good with the bad. I have no desire to rule other people's lives.

Stopped reading here. I'm pretty sure if you WERE alive for that garbage, you'd be preaching the virtues of Jim Crow and segregation in public forums. Don't try and be coy about it.

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and that wasnt one of em :oldlol:

freedom of speech. the right of people to express their opinions publicly without governmental interference,

This extends through bodies of business and enterprise. Especially small owned businesses like the one in this thread.

Either have an informed opinion and response, or leave and let the adults discuss

[NumberSix]

Stopped reading here. I'm pretty sure if you WERE alive for that garbage, you'd be preaching the virtues of Jim Crow and segregation in public forums. Don't try and be coy about it.
That's the GOVERNMENT discriminating against people. I've just explained to you that I DONT want the government telling people what they can and can't do.

I'm not in favor of taking people's freedom or property. You obviously don't share those values.

Take your thinly veiled accusations of racism somewhere else. I'm not selective about my views on freedom and property. I'm someone who doesn't think the government should be involved in currency. My position on property isn't just some fake position to allow oppression of minorities.

[HenryGarfunkle]

They sure are worried about internet trolling and so-called 'racism' over there in the UK.

[NumberSix]

They sure are worried about internet trolling and so-called 'racism' over there in the UK.
Who are they even protecting? Who is so damaged by her tweets that it warrants arrest and criminal charges?

[plowking]

While it is a terrible thing to preach, is such a thing actually illegal?

Do you not have a right to choose who you serve at your business? I know there is fine line between exclusion based on certain characteristics and based on other things, but I can't exactly remember the specifics as of now.

[HenryGarfunkle]

Who are they even protecting? Who is so damaged by her tweets that it warrants arrest and criminal charges?

The woman was arrested under section 19 of the Public Order Act which relates to the display of written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention of stirring up racial hatred, and for producing malicious communications.

:rolleyes:

:facepalm

[NumberSix]

:rolleyes:

:facepalm
What point are you making? :wtf:

We are not discussing whether it is the law or not. We are discussing whether it should be.

[Mr Feeny]

she's not racist, she just doesn't want to die

She should stay away from Lithuanians then should she? Nazi....

[Mr Feeny]

These Eastern block assholes are just mad because their parents couldn't run away to a free country back in the communism days now they are stuck living in a shithole. They wish they could seek asylum to a decent country like the refugees, what hurts them most is that not even the refugees from war torn countries wanna live in a piece of crap country like Lithuania.

Took the words out of my mouth :applause:

[step_back]

You don't know what "fascism" is. People throw it around so loosely to the point that it has no meaning.

You know what the opposite of fascism is? The rights of the individual. Two of the most fundamental individual rights being free speech and property rights, both of which you apparently want to deny her.

Who the hell are you to tell her what she is allowed to say and what she is allowed to do with her property?

I'm well aware of what fascism is. I didn't say SHE was fascist. I said she was persecuting a particular type of person and once that becomes accepted it often leads to a snow ball effect that can end up with fascism like Germany in the 30's and 40's. Europe wants no part of it anymore.

Freedom of speech in this country at least, means she can voice her opinion to her hearts content. That's freedom of speech. But she's crossed the line by refusing to serve Muslims. That's unacceptable. She's breaking the law by doing it and I don't see how you can possibly defend it. I'm an atheist perhaps I should refuse to take on clients that believe in God? After all I'm self employed so it's my right, apparently.

I'm not referring to you, but it seems some Americans from the recent posts I've read don't actually believe in their own constitution. Which is probably the best declaration of freedom of speech and freedom to practice or not practice their religion.

Personally I don't think she should've been arrested, seems like a typical knee jerk reaction. She should have been cautioned and asked to remove her posts.

[StephHamann]

Europe wants no part of it anymore.



There is no "Europe" thank god some countries have the decency to speak for themselves.

The whole united Europe idea is a pipedream, and Merkel is destroying it right now over some stinking "Refugees".

[NumberSix]

I'm well aware of what fascism is. I didn't say SHE was fascist. I said she was persecuting a particular type of person...
She's not "persecuting" anybody.


and once that becomes accepted it often leads to a snow ball effect that can end up with fascism like Germany in the 30's and 40's. Europe wants no part of it anymore.
That was the German state. Nobody is suggesting that the government should persecute people. Quite the opposite. The government should leave people alone. It shouldn't be harassing people for their beliefs/opinions.


Freedom of speech in this country at least, means she can voice her opinion to her hearts content. That's freedom of speech. But she's crossed the line by refusing to serve Muslims. That's unacceptable. She's breaking the law by doing it and I don't see how you can possibly defend it. I'm an atheist perhaps I should refuse to take on clients that believe in God? After all I'm self employed so it's my right, apparently.
What moral line is it crossing? If she doesn't want to style somebody's eyelashes, why should she be forced to?


I'm not referring to you, but it seems some Americans from the recent posts I've read don't actually believe in their own constitution. Which is probably the best declaration of freedom of speech and freedom to practice or not practice their religion.

Personally I don't think she should've been arrested, seems like a typical knee jerk reaction. She should have been cautioned and asked to remove her posts.what are you talking about?

[Springsteen]

What moral line is it crossing? If she doesn't want to style somebody's eyelashes, why should she be forced to?


She's discriminating based solely on religious identidy. How hard is this to see.

[NumberSix]

She's discriminating based solely on religious identidy. How hard is this to see.
Right, but it's her services. Do you believe people are entitled to her time and energy?

[Mr Feeny]

She's discriminating based solely on religious identidy. How hard is this to see.

He seems confused.

[HenryGarfunkle]

What point are you making? :wtf:

We are not discussing whether it is the law or not. We are discussing whether it should be.
Dude, I'm on your side. I'm rolling my eyes at the law.

How you can't grasp that after my first post is beyond me.

[Dresta]

"The woman was arrested under section 19 of the Public Order Act which relates to the display of written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention of stirring up racial hatred, and for producing malicious communications."

lol @ whoever defends such a law calling someone else a fascist. The above is a perfect example of the sort of vague and arbitrary laws used by fascist states to silence those who oppose the ideology of the state at any given time. Just because the ideology has changed doesn't make the methods less fascist. People who bring up the nazis and 1930s Germany really haven't got a clue - this is not remotely similar considering the biggest threat to muslims comes from within their own ranks (and many other reasons) - that historical comparison is a grossly inaccurate one.

Not to mention that this happened in Britain, a country that stood up to nazi Germany and their ideological madness, on the basis of its own firm principles and sound law, which has protected it from similar usurpations of power for centuries - laws like the above run contrary to this noble tradition, and are quite clearly the biggest threat against its survival.

People talk about freedom of speech not being absolute, but freedom of speech means nothing if it means only the freedom to say those things which are agreeable - the tradition would be completely redundant if that were at all its intent. It means putting up with expressions of opinion you find repugnant - do you people think anything good comes without a cost? What this amounts to is no more than the state arresting someone because it dislikes their opinion. I can understand a German agreeing with such an act, because they are natural totalitarians (worshippers of regimen and bureaucratic order), but from English and Americans, it is despicable.

[Dresta]

I'm well aware of what fascism is. I didn't say SHE was fascist. I said she was persecuting a particular type of person and once that becomes accepted it often leads to a snow ball effect that can end up with fascism like Germany in the 30's and 40's. Europe wants no part of it anymore.

Freedom of speech in this country at least, means she can voice her opinion to her hearts content. That's freedom of speech. But she's crossed the line by refusing to serve Muslims. That's unacceptable. She's breaking the law by doing it and I don't see how you can possibly defend it. I'm an atheist perhaps I should refuse to take on clients that believe in God? After all I'm self employed so it's my right, apparently.

I'm not referring to you, but it seems some Americans from the recent posts I've read don't actually believe in their own constitution. Which is probably the best declaration of freedom of speech and freedom to practice or not practice their religion.

Personally I don't think she should've been arrested, seems like a typical knee jerk reaction. She should have been cautioned and asked to remove her posts.
That is quite obviously your right; though the thought of the state arresting, and using tax-payer money to prosecute and incarcerate you, seems blatantly ludicrous to me.

And exercising such a right would bring its own consequences regardless: you would (rightly) be looked upon as ridiculous, and lose out on a large amount of potential business. There's a reason big corporations are obsessively multicultural and political correct you know (aside from the cheap labour motive, of course) - tis good for business.

[NumberSix]

Dude, I'm on your side. I'm rolling my eyes at the law.

How you can't grasp that after my first post is beyond me.
Oh, my bad. :cheers:

[iamgine]

:facepalm

Yes, we all understand that threats of violence, inciting violence, etc... Doesn't fall under free speech. We don't need to waste time with this.

Declaring who you do or don't wish to sell your property to however obviously does.
Does it? I'd say it depends on how you say it. What if you put up a banner on your house saying "House for sale: Non gay & non muslim only need apply". Clearly that will be reported and get taken down in many neighborhoods.

[imdaman99]

Muslim women usually have the longest and best eyelashes, maybe she's just lazy and is tired of working extra hard. But then again, I'm not gonna pretend to know what happens at one of these stores :oldlol: I don't agree with what the hell she said because it sounds hateful as hell, but it's not something I would fight. By fighting it, it's giving her more pub and likely more customers.

[dunksby]

British beautician is an oxymoron.

[Springsteen]

Does it? I'd say it depends on how you say it. What if you put up a banner on your house saying "House for sale: Non gay & non muslim only need apply". Clearly that will be reported and get taken down in many neighborhoods.

No dude, you don't understand. He just wants the free rights and liberties to be protected! No racism at all.

[UK2K]

Very vague offense she was charged with.

Wonder how much that will adapt over time to be 'anything the government deems offensive'.

[longtime lurker]

What's the issue here? She was arrested under a law that fits which covers the garbage that was spewed from her Facebook. Let's all cry for bigots

[Akrazotile]

Yes. That's not what you meant by saying "you miss no coloreds allowed signs", which I wasn't even alive for.

I'm not in favor of businesses discriminating against people. But I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in property rights. Just like I'm not in favor of groups like the KKK marching around saying disgusting hateful things, but I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in free speech. You take the good with the bad. I have no desire to rule other people's lives.


Bro. Phantomcreep is WAAAAAAAAY too stupid to understand the nuance here. Youre wasting keystrokes.

[bluechox2]

she should ask for double

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/7/1/1404212572002/A-woman-wearing-a-burqa-i-012.jpg

the levels of cracking that exterior takes time without offending

[Dresta]

What's the issue here? She was arrested under a law that fits which covers the garbage that was spewed from her Facebook. Let's all cry for bigots
Perhaps if you could read, and if you knew even a slither of your own history, and the long list of abuses of power that fill the annals of world history, you would know what the issue is; but instead, you've just decided to expose yourself as an ignoramus, by making an argument completely irrelevant, and then closing that argument with piece of sarcasm that is the opposite of what you actually do (far from crying for bigots, you like to abuse and persecute them, in a way that can only be described as 'bigoted').

And it never was about 'crying for bigots' but about the state using its power in an arbitrary fashion, through the deployment of vague and arbitrary laws, to prevent people from expressing any opinion that contravenes the state ideology (it is pretty close to being a crime in Britain to be 'against democracy' - this kind of democracy is only the rule of the mob, the type that happily puts such noble spirits as Socrates and Phocion to death, just because they offended or upset 'the people').

Typical, typical, typical.

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Perhaps if you could read, and if you knew even a slither of your own history, and the long list of abuses of power that fill the annals of world history, you would know what the issue is; but instead, you've just decided to expose yourself as an ignoramus, by making an argument completely irrelevant, and then closing that argument with piece of sarcasm that is the opposite of what you actually do (far from crying for bigots, you like to abuse and persecute them, in a way that can only be described as 'bigoted').

And it never was about 'crying for bigots' but about the state using its power in an arbitrary fashion, through the deployment of vague and arbitrary laws, to prevent people from expressing any opinion that contravenes the state ideology (it is pretty close to being a crime in Britain to be 'against democracy' - this kind of democracy is only the rule of the mob, the type that happily puts such noble spirits as Socrates and Phocion to death, just because they offended or upset 'the people').

Typical, typical, typical.
:applause:

[brownmamba00]

White people are used to getting away with that shit...nice to see the popo handle it for once:applause:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Yes. That's not what you meant by saying "you miss no coloreds allowed signs", which I wasn't even alive for.

I'm not in favor of businesses discriminating against people. But I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in property rights. Just like I'm not in favor of groups like the KKK marching around saying disgusting hateful things, but I'm in favor of it being legal because I believe in free speech. You take the good with the bad. I have no desire to rule other people's lives.

Thank goodness you have no power in shaping our laws beyond your measley vote. Fcking clown.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Bro. Phantomcreep is WAAAAAAAAY too stupid to understand the nuance here. Youre wasting keystrokes.

Naturally, this failure of a human being agrees with NumberSix. Can you imagine if every business owner, be they white or minority, decided to ban those they felt were undesirable?

Just imagine all across America: No Coloreds, No Gays, No Jews, No Whites, No Gentiles??? :biggums: :biggums:

Sounds lovely. ISIS? Who's got time for them when you're dealing with American conservatives?

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[Akrazotile]

Naturally, this failure of a human being agrees with NumberSix. Can you imagine if every business owner, be they white or minority, decided to ban those they felt were undesirable?

Just imagine all across America: No Coloreds, No Gays, No Jews, No Whites, No Gentiles??? :biggums: :biggums:

Sounds lovely. ISIS? Who's got time for them when you're dealing with American conservatives?


Uhh, you realize youre the one who wants the government to require everyone operate and think exactly as you do. You are a whacked out liberal fundamentalist.

Why cant you live with just walking the tolerance walk yourself and let others make their own decisions without being coerced by your dogma?

Why do you feel you have to pretend to be everyones super hero? Crying about other people's level of bigotry, and vehemently witch hunting for racist (which you are literally obsessively deranged about doing) doesnt make you smarter than anyone. It doesnt make you better, or more righteous. What are you trying to prove?

You are honestly a straight up caricature. Im pretty sure even the other lefties here think your retardaton is excessive.

[warriorfan]

Uhh, you realize youre the one who wants the government to require everyone operate and think exactly as you do. You are a whacked out liberal fundamentalist.

Why cant you live with just walking the tolerance walk yourself and let others make their own decisions without being coerced by your dogma?

Why do you feel you have to pretend to be everyones super hero? Crying about other people's level of bigotry, and vehemently witch hunting for racist (which you are literally obsessively deranged about doing) doesnt make you smarter than anyone. It doesnt make you better, or more righteous. What are you trying to prove?

You are honestly a straight up caricature. Im pretty sure even the other lefties here think your retardaton is excessive.

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[DeuceWallaces]

Don't like the law stopping her from spouting off like an idiot, but the second she actually refuses service based on religion she should have her business license revoked, fined, and shut down until she reverses the policy.

[Akrazotile]

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Relax slim jim, I aint meltin.

The mercury may be RISING a lil bit, but the system is still stable.

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[Dresta]

Naturally, this failure of a human being agrees with NumberSix. Can you imagine if every business owner, be they white or minority, decided to ban those they felt were undesirable?

Just imagine all across America: No Coloreds, No Gays, No Jews, No Whites, No Gentiles??? :biggums: :biggums:

Sounds lovely. ISIS? Who's got time for them when you're dealing with American conservatives?
Yes i can. For all you may think, the world wouldn't implode. I imagine it would look much the same as it does now, sans thousands of wasteful and pointless lawsuits.

I'm sure it's been much better to make whining and excuse-making an incredibly profitable profession. That's been a great help to society and people in general: they're sure not to abuse such a privilege. :oldlol:

Trust me, this utopian world you seem to inhabit is far more ridiculous than any i could think up. The Federal government as the protector of the feelings of over 300 million people - sounds like a workable plan alright, can't see anything going wrong, or any possible abuses :rolleyes:.

All this consummated by your comparing all American "conservatives" to ISIS - and you dare to call anyone else ridiculous or prejudiced?

What a silly little man you are.

[warriorfan]

slim jim and warriorfan

The association is complete

Reputation tarnished

Forever slim jim

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forever ugly and gay AF

[UK2K]

Naturally, this failure of a human being agrees with NumberSix. Can you imagine if every business owner, be they white or minority, decided to ban those they felt were undesirable?

Just imagine all across America: No Coloreds, No Gays, No Jews, No Whites, No Gentiles??? :biggums: :biggums:

Sounds lovely. ISIS? Who's got time for them when you're dealing with American conservatives?

Other than other races shopping at white businesses, its pretty much like that now. Blacks go to the black barbers, koreans go to the korean groceries. Act like its so shocking.

I think you should be able to ban whoever you want. If you're a black dude, but don't want whites shopping at your store, then have fun trying to make money by only offering your goods and services to 1/2 the population.

And guess what, I wouldn't be butt hurt at all if someone didn't want me shopping in their store. The typical leftist response would be to complain about it. Me personally, I'd just go somewhere else. Big deal.

And guess what, it's your ****ing store. I don't come to your house and tell you what to cook.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Uhh, you realize youre the one who wants the government to require everyone operate and think exactly as you do. You are a whacked out liberal fundamentalist.

Why cant you live with just walking the tolerance walk yourself and let others make their own decisions without being coerced by your dogma?

Why do you feel you have to pretend to be everyones super hero? Crying about other people's level of bigotry, and vehemently witch hunting for racist (which you are literally obsessively deranged about doing) doesnt make you smarter than anyone. It doesnt make you better, or more righteous. What are you trying to prove?

You are honestly a straight up caricature. Im pretty sure even the other lefties here think your retardaton is excessive.

For the record, I defend your right to express your views--freedom of speech all day. So long as you're not threatening anyone, disturbing the peace, etc., knock yourself out. I have no interest in forcing my views on you, or getting your views in line with my own.

But I draw the line at discrimination, and so does the government, thankfully.

Don't like Muslims/blacks/homosexuals? Don't open a business that's open to the general public. Disagree with same-sex marriage? Find a job that doesn't involve issuing marriage licenses. Not a fan of creationists? Don't work at the Creationist Museum (that one's for me). Otherwise STFU.

See how easy this is, you simple son of a bitch?

[Akrazotile]

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the association is complete, 2 biggest f ags on ISH

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Melt

[BasedTom]

Naturally, this failure of a human being agrees with NumberSix. Can you imagine if every business owner, be they white or minority, decided to ban those they felt were undesirable?

Just imagine all across America: No Coloreds, No Gays, No Jews, No Whites, No Gentiles??? :biggums: :biggums:

Sounds lovely. ISIS? Who's got time for them when you're dealing with American conservatives?
This is more or less understood and accepted to happen with certain nightclubs and exclusive restaurants. Even where it's less obvious, there are definitely to this day Black barbershops where the preferred clientele is bound to have a different set of expectations and values compared to an old timey establishment where the elderly get their haircuts. They're within their rights to do this.

The multicultural fantasy just doesn't exist unless you want to completely eliminate race and class from the equation, which in an ironic way destroys any semblance of "diversity" in the world.

[bdreason]

I didn't realize Muslim was a race.

[Akrazotile]

For the record, I defend your right to express your views--freedom of speech all day. So long as you're not threatening anyone, disturbing the peace, etc., knock yourself out. I have no interest in forcing my views on you, or getting them in line with my own.

But I draw the line at discrimination, and so does the government, thankfully.

Don't like it Muslims/blacks/homosexuals? Don't open a business that's open to the general public. Disagree with same-sex marriage? Find a job that doesn't involve issuing marriage licenses. Not a fan of creationists? Don't work at the Creationist Museum (that one's for me). Otherwise STFU.

See how easy this is, you simple son of a bitch?

Ok. I'm gonna make this nice and clear, then I HAVE to put you on my ignore list, because people as belligerently unintellectual as you give me chest pains.


There's a difference between government mandated class systems, and the rights of individuals to like and interact with whomever they choose to. If the government is gonna collect your taxes, then THEY have to treat you the same and recognize you equally under THEIR areas of operation.

An individual can interact with whomever they want to. If I wanna sell something on craigslist and some weirdo contacts me, I don't have to sell to him. If I run a convenience store, I can put up a little sign on the window that says "Right to refuse service to anyone." If you come in and I don't like the clothes you're wearing, I can refuse you service. If you're yelling into your phone, I can refuse your service. If you start a cult that advocates murdering my uncle, I can refuse you service. If you start a cult that wants to jihad the whole world, I can refuse you service. I can do it for ANY REASON I WANT, because it's MY STORE.

I can't make YOU sit there and play Magic the Gathering with any person I want to. I can't make you respond to any person I want to in a thread about Star Wars. Your interaction is your choice. And the same thing applies to people who actually have lives. Just because you don't want to hurt a Muslim's feeling, doesn't mean anyone else has an obligation to care about that. That's YOUR opinion, YOUR prerogative, and NOT your mandate to enforce. YOU'RE A F@GGOT.

When you insist that the government control the choices of people to suit what fits YOUR agenda, that is fundamentalism. You are a close-minded radical. You are trying to play social hero by coercing conformity of everyone to your view of morals.

It's such an easy distinction to understand. But you're a dumb retarded kid, and this is your thing. People who don't like freedom, who can't accept a social heirarchy, who want equality in everything across the board, are the betas who don't have the TALENT to move up. I mean, why would someone with ability want to coerce everything to be equal? If you can make it, you wanna make it. The awkwards, the misfits, the losers, the nobodies, the neckbeards, the insecures, the betas, they're all the ones who wanna force equality. By being a fascist liberal loser, you're basically announcing you are a beta with no ability. And BECAUSE you have no individual ability, you scream and do this :rant for the party line. This is how you get your attention and kudos in the liberal club. You don't understand the fine points of philosophy, government, sociology, but you have a peer group you want to impress, so you mindlessly and belligerently shout their creed. You're a confused kid trying to figure himself out, and the ONLY "skill" you have that will gain you approval from anyone, is antagonizing conservatives without reflecting a single modicum of analytical ability into your views. You are just a mouth shouting talking points on a loop, hoping someone will mistake your vociferousness for sagacity. You're a bitch. Nobody here thinks you have a brain. You embarrass yourself constantly. You are the young version of deucewallace, with the only exception being that he at least doesn't nearly draw as much attention to his unnuanced approach to "thinking." You loudly mark yourself out as the village idiot.

Kill yourself.

[DeuceWallaces]

:lol

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[ThePhantomCreep]

This is more or less understood and accepted to happen with certain nightclubs and exclusive restaurants. Even where it's less obvious, there are definitely to this day Black barbershops where the preferred clientele is bound to have a different set of expectations and values compared to an old timey establishment where the elderly get their haircuts. They're within their rights to do this.

The multicultural fantasy just doesn't exist unless you want to completely eliminate race and class from the equation, which in an ironic way destroys any semblance of "diversity" in the world.

Are you referring to dress codes? As long as their rules apply to everyone, it isn't discrimination. If a barbershop only cuts hair a certain way, that's fine. If they're turning away whites at the door, that's not fine.

This is a weak rationalization for bringing back damaging policies that allow discrimination against (mostly) minorities. Yes, social groups tend to congregate within themselves, even in melting pots like NY and LA. Yes, these groups tend to be insular. If that's their preference, so be it. To each his own. So long they're not denying service to "outsiders", I couldn't care less about their preferred clientele.

[Akrazotile]

:lol

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I'LL NEVER HAVE DINNER WITH THE PRESIDENT
I'LL NEVER HAVE DINNER WITH THE PRESIDENT
I'LL NEVER HAVE DINNER WITH THE PRESIDENT
I'LL NEVER HAVE DINNER WITH THE PRESIDENT
:rant :rant :rant :rant

[Akrazotile]

Oh, and btw. Here's what's going on in Congress:


The Congressional Black Caucus is an organization representing the black members of the United States Congress. Membership is exclusive to African-Americans.[1] Its chair in the 114th Congress is Representative G. K. Butterfield of North Carolina.

.....

Non-Black membership

All past and present members of the caucus have been black. In 2006, while running for Congress in a Tennessee district which is 60% black, white candidate Steve Cohen pledged to apply for membership in order to represent his constituents. However, after his election, his application was refused.[10] Although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black". In response to the decision, Rep. Cohen referred to his campaign promise as "a social faux pas" because "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in. You need to be invited."

Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr., D-MO., the son of Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-MO., a co-founder of the caucus, said: "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He's white and the caucus is black. It's time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It's an unwritten rule. It's understood." Clay also issued the following statement:

Quite simply, Rep. Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept—there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it's our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria, unless he can change his skin color. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol



Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives.

Later the same week Representative Tom Tancredo, R-CO., objected to the continued existence of the CBC as well as the Democratic Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Republican Congressional Hispanic Conference arguing that, "It is utterly hypocritical for Congress to extol the virtues of a color-blind society while officially sanctioning caucuses that are based solely on race. If we are serious about achieving the goal of a colorblind society, Congress should lead by example and end these divisive, race-based caucuses."[11]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus

PhantomCreep and Deuce in FULL support. Doormat, subservient fakkits. Anything to get the social approval by bowing down to minorities.

Ultimate losers.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Great, another thesis. Too long, didn't read, asshole.

This is as far as I got:


An individual can interact with whomever they want to. If I wanna sell something on craigslist and some weirdo contacts me, I don't have to sell to him. If I run a convenience store, I can put up a little sign on the window that says "Right to refuse service to anyone." If you come in and I don't like the clothes you're wearing, I can refuse you service. If you're yelling into your phone, I can refuse your service. If you start a cult that advocates murdering my uncle, I can refuse you service. If you start a cult that wants to jihad the whole world, I can refuse you service. I can do it for ANY REASON I WANT, because it's MY STORE.

This is where your argument falls apart--how could determine that based on someone's appearance?

All establishments are allowed to have rules, so long as they're not discriminating against entire classes of people. If an INDIVIDUAL violates these rules, they can be denied service.

That's not what this beautician was doing.

[NumberSix]

For the record, I defend your right to express your views--freedom of speech all day. So long as you're not threatening anyone, disturbing the peace, etc., knock yourself out. I have no interest in forcing my views on you, or getting them in line with my own.

But I draw the line at discrimination, and so does the government, thankfully.

Don't like Muslims/blacks/homosexuals? Don't open a business that's open to the general public. Disagree with same-sex marriage? Find a job that doesn't involve issuing marriage licenses. Not a fan of creationists? Don't work at the Creationist Museum (that one's for me). Otherwise STFU.

See how easy this is, you simple son of a bitch?
No you don't. You draw the line at certain discrimination in certain situations.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Oh, and btw. Here's what's going on in Congress:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus

PhantomCreep and Deuce in FULL support. Doormat, subservient fakkits. Anything to get the social approval by bowing down to minorities.

Ultimate losers.
EVERYBODY RUN!!! BEFORE IT POSTS ANOTHER THESIS!!!

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:lol

Private clubs =/= public accomidations. Now...fck off.

[ThePhantomCreep]

No you don't. You draw the line at certain discrimination in certain situations.

You're projecting now. Don't worry, someday they'll invent a time machine, then you can go back to the glory days of Jim Crow, Sundown Towns, etc.

You can tell yourself you're only there to experience the joy of "teh property rights".

[NumberSix]

You're projecting now. Don't worry, someday they'll invent a time machine, then you can go back to the glory days of Jim Crow, Sundown Towns, etc.

You can tell yourself you're only there to experience the joy of "teh property rights".
Avoid argument. Accuse racism....

Sorry guy. This move doesn't work anymore.


And why do you keep bringing up Jim Crow? This is a story about England.

[Akrazotile]

Avoid argument. Accuse racism....

Sorry guy. This move doesn't work anymore.


And why do you keep bringing up Jim Crow? This is a story about England.


Dude is a cartoon character. And literally cannot be older than a teenager. It's not even worth arguing with him. He cant even understand the basics.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Avoid argument. Accuse racism....

Sorry guy. This move doesn't work anymore.


And why do you keep bringing up Jim Crow? This is a story about England.

Nice dodge. Are you saying your views on property rights don't apply to these shores? :rolleyes:

[Goofsta Knicca]

Good thing we can't get arrested over stuff we post on ISH.
























We can't, right? :ohwell:

[NumberSix]

Nice dodge. Are you saying your views on property rights don't apply to these shores? :rolleyes:
My views on property rights apply to everywhere.

And being pro property rights has nothing to do with Jim Crow. You bringing up for no reason is about as appropriate as me saying your lack of a respect for property rights means you miss the days of slavery. Its a dishonest tactic. I don't need to accuse you of racism to deflect from the actual argument. That's for people who don't have a leg to stand on.

[LikeMike]

US needs the same laws. Then we can arrest Trump and Carson. :banana:

[LikeMike]

Why can't 9er be from the UK? He would have been arrested and gone from ISH long ago.

[coin24]

Everyone who doesn't like Muslims is racist. Good one:oldlol:

Personally I don't like anyone that puts there religion as there definitive point of there life. How they introduce themselves etc. it's something one chooses to believe in, people take it too far. There should be more to a person than that..
I guess that's why a lot of sheep or simple minded people become devout religious nuts..
The world would be a much better place if everyone practiced there religion in there homes or in place of worship only. The rest of the world being neutral ground, no public mentioning of your beliefs, no offended because of your beliefs, no more of this bullshit..

[cuad]

I am calling unlawful arrest.

http://i.imgur.com/6YNl0et.jpg


section 19 of the Public Order Act which relates to the display of written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention of stirring up racial hatred, and for producing malicious communications.

[KyrieTheFuture]

How the **** can she tell the difference between a Middle Eastern Jew, Christian, or Muslim?

[Akrazotile]

How the **** can she tell the difference between a Middle Eastern Jew, Christian, or Muslim?


Probably by asking. Id imagine most devout Muslims arent gonna lie about their commitment to Allah just to get a haircut. Theyll probably say theyre Muslim and then demand she service them.

How many muslim women go to the beauty parlor anyway? Kinda hard to see the results of a cucumber facial treatment beneath a burqa.

[NumberSix]

How the **** can she tell the difference between a Middle Eastern Jew, Christian, or Muslim?
Lol. You act as if this is something she actually would militantly enforce or something.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Probably by asking. Id imagine most devout Muslims arent gonna lie about their commitment to Allah just to get a haircut. Theyll probably say theyre Muslim and then demand she service them.

How many muslim women go to the beauty parlor anyway? Kinda hard to see the results of a cucumber facial treatment beneath a burqa.
Probably the same amount of gay couples who get pizza parlors to cater their wedding.

[ThePhantomCreep]

My views on property rights apply to everywhere.

And being pro property rights has nothing to do with Jim Crow. You bringing up for no reason is about as appropriate as me saying your lack of a respect for property rights means you miss the days of slavery. Its a dishonest tactic. I don't need to accuse you of racism to deflect from the actual argument. That's for people who don't have a leg to stand on.

You're still dodging.

Face it, in an indirect way, whether you're bigoted or not, you miss the days when business owners could post "NO XXXXXX" signs outside their establishments without fear of reprisal, and if you had your way, you'd give those same business owners the power to post them again. You've already admitted it.

It's mind-blowing that you consider this sound policy, as if there are positives to throwing people out of public restaurants/beauty parlors/hotels simply for existing. Simply for speaking in a different language, worshiping a different God, or having different skin pigmentation.

Like I said, you're going to need a time machine to see those destructive policies in action (take Ron Paul with you) because they're not coming back. Welcome to 2015.

[Jameerthefear]

if u can't offer business to people regardless of faith, race, sex, etc. then u shouldn't run ur own business. somehow thousands and thousands of businesses are able to do this without issue but this dumbass doesn't want to. she shouldn't go to jail tho.