Syria's "moderate oppostion" back Paris attacks

[StephHamann]

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/al-nusra-front-back-attacks-paris-despite-opposition-islamic-state-976490550

[KevinNYC]

From AFP (http://news.yahoo.com/syria-rebels-activists-denounce-attack-paris-231706004.html)

Dozens of Syrian rebel groups on Saturday strongly denounced the Islamic State jihadist group's attacks on Paris as "against human values" in a joint online statement.


And Syrian activists, refugees, and civilians in the war-torn country expressed their solidarity with France in posts on social media.

Forty-nine armed factions in Syria, including the powerful Jaish al-Islam rebel groups, condemned "in the strongest terms" IS's coordinated assault in Paris that killed at least 129 people.

"We learned today, with great shock and condemnation, about the terrorist attacks against civilians in the city of Paris," the joint statement said.

It called IS's actions "criminal attacks that are against (Islamic) laws and human values".

Most rebel groups in Syria fiercely oppose both the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and IS, which has declared a self-styled "caliphate" in parts of Syria and Iraq.

"This terrorism does not differ from the terrorism that the Syrian people have suffered from every day for the past five years," the groups said.

[LJJ]

Dozens of Syrian rebel groups on Saturday strongly denounced the Islamic State jihadist group's attacks on Paris as "against human values" in a joint online statement.

It actually already says all of this in the article OP posted. The article explains there is a rift between rebels with some condemning the attack and others celebrating. Explaining both sides, good journalism.

Your article "conveniently" omits that possibly the biggest rebel group celebrated the attack, and only states that "Syria rebels denounce IS attack on Paris", without mentioning the whole truth. This type of insidious and calculated misinformation is really disgusting.

[fiddy]

It actually already says all of this in the article OP posted. The article explains there is a rift between rebels with some condemning the attack and others celebrating. Explaining both sides, good journalism.

Your article "conveniently" omits that possibly the biggest rebel group celebrated the attack, and only states that "Syria rebels denounce IS attack on Paris", without mentioning the whole truth. This type of insidious and calculated misinformation is really disgusting.
Worse than that, the article Kevin posted cities the opinion of activist, which are PC scum.

[KevinNYC]

It actually already says all of this in the article OP posted. The article explains there is a rift between rebels with some condemning the attack and others celebrating. Explaining both sides, good journalism.

Yeah, the article OP posted doesn't support the title OP chose for this thread. He's trying to say al-Nusra is the moderate opposition.

As for good journalism and balance, the article quotes "a statement released by one member (from a Twitter account since deleted)." The article I pointed to was the official joint statement of 49 different groups. Does seem balanced here?

It also quotes a al-Nusra "spokesman" but that quote doesn't "back Paris attacks" like the OP is claiming.


Your article "conveniently" omits that possibly the biggest rebel group celebrated the attack, and only states that "Syria rebels denounce IS attack on Paris", without mentioning the whole truth. This type of insidious and calculated misinformation is really disgusting.

Agence France Presse who I linked to is a legitimate news source and your "claim of calculated misinformation" is ridiculous and false. The article is about the statement. The statement is a discrete thing. The statement is not put out by Nusra. It was put out by other groups. The language in the article is quite clear that the rebels are not monolithic and it's deliberate foolishness to pretend otherwise.
"Dozens of Syrian rebel groups..... "

"Forty-nine armed factions in Syria, including the powerful Jaish al-Islam ..... "

"Most rebel groups in Syria....."

Balanced Journalism a al LJJ.


The New York Fire Department responded to a two-alarm fire on Smith Street yesterday. However, this reporter noticed that most houses on Smith Street were not on fire.

[HitandRun Reggie]

So even if they hate these guys, and believe they are evil, as long as ISIS are murdering non-Muslim innocents in the name of Islam, they must lift their hands in applause?

Nice group to be part of...

[Nick Young]

with the Turkish and Bosnian football fans chanting "Allah Achbar" during the moment of silence for Paris at recent games, and now this, it becomes very clear that the tard argument of "it's only a tiny, tiny minority who support ISIS" is bullshit.

[LJJ]

Yeah, the article OP posted doesn't support the title OP chose for this thread. He's trying to say al-Nusra is the moderate opposition.


Note the quotation marks around moderate opposition. OP is saying that Al Nusra isn't moderate at all, yet often portrayed as such. This is one of the groups that has been helped by the US and other western powers, they are as fundamentalist, Islamist and terrorist as they come. Much like the rest of the rebels.



Agence France Presse who I linked to is a legitimate news source and your "claim of calculated misinformation" is ridiculous and false. The article is about the statement. The statement is a discrete thing. The statement is not put out by Nusra. It was put out by other groups. The language in the article is quite clear that the rebels are not monolithic and it's deliberate foolishness to pretend otherwise.

Legitimate news agencies spin and color stories all the time. They report on smaller rebel groups condemning the attacks, but don't report on the big and powerful Al-Nusra celebrating it? That's not balanced reporting.

Either way, why post this simplistic amateurism article as a response to OP? All it is is a much less complete account of the situation. But I guess we both know you would rather spread this incomplete story than an accurate portrayal. I bet you didn't even read the OP before you came in plastering your propaganda all over the place.

[LJJ]

with the Turkish and Bosnian football fans chanting "Allah Achbar" during the moment of silence for Paris at recent games, and now this, it becomes very clear that the tard argument of "it's only a tiny, tiny minority who support ISIS" is bullshit.

To be fair, with the Bosnian fans it was like one guy who was later beat up by the other Bosnian supporters for disrespecting the situation. There is always going to be a cook.

Not at all like the Turks in the Erdogan camp, who are IS strongest supports. Almost the whole stadium was booing and whistling.

[KevinNYC]

Note the quotation marks around moderate opposition. OP is saying that Al Nusra isn't moderate at all, yet often portrayed as such. This is one of the groups that has been helped by the US and other western powers, they are as fundamentalist, Islamist and terrorist as they come. Much like the rest of the rebels.
AKA, I agree with the OP's bullshit.

Yes, I understood the quote marks were ironic. I know who Al Nusra is, I was among the first few people on this board to mention them. Here's you (http://207.58.151.151/forum/showpost.php?p=8936203&postcount=30) responding to a post I made about them two years ago.

He and you are trying pretend all opposition to Assad is like Nusra. And that any support any anti-Assad group is support for al Nusra.
Legitimate news agencies spin and color stories all the time. They report on smaller rebel groups condemning the attacks, but don't report on the big and powerful Al-Nusra celebrating it? That's not balanced reporting.

Either way, why post this simplistic amateurism article as a response to OP? All it is is a much less complete account of the situation. But I guess we both know you would rather spread this incomplete story than an accurate portrayal. I bet you didn't even read the OP before you came in plastering your propaganda all over the place.

Before you begin blathering about propaganda? Can you actually find an instance of the big and powerful Al-Nusra celebrating this? Not some dude. The organization. Because I just searched Google News (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=al+nusra+paris+attacks&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:w) and other than the article in this thread which is pretty thin, I don't see a response from them one way or the other. The article in this thread does not have a Nusra spokesman celebrating the Paris attack. I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but again there's no evidence they did.

Perhaps a google search in English wouldn't have turned this up, but there are dozens of analysts and Syria watchers who monitor jihadi communication and social networks, if Al Nusra put out an official statement on Paris, you think it would be mentioned. For example, they put out a statement about killing Abu Ali al Baridi who was an ISIS guy and that has several articles out there.

[StephHamann]

Note the quotation marks around moderate opposition. OP is saying that Al Nusra isn't moderate at all, yet often portrayed as such. This is one of the groups that has been helped by the US and other western powers, they are as fundamentalist, Islamist and terrorist as they come.



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[Nick Young]

To be fair, with the Bosnian fans it was like one guy who was later beat up by the other Bosnian supporters for disrespecting the situation. There is always going to be a cook.

Not at all like the Turks in the Erdogan camp, who are IS strongest supports. Almost the whole stadium was booing and whistling.
Ok Bosnia, you've redeemed yourself:cheers:

[LJJ]

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Before you begin blathering about propaganda? Can you actually find an instance of the big and powerful Al-Nusra celebrating this? Not some dude. The organization. Because I just searched Google News (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=al+nusra+paris+attacks&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:w) and other than the article in this thread which is pretty thin, I don't see a response from them one way or the other. The article in this thread does not have a Nusra spokesman celebrating the Paris attack. I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but again there's no evidence they did.

Perhaps a google search in English wouldn't have turned this up, but there are dozens of analysts and Syria watchers who monitor jihadi communication and social networks, if Al Nusra put out an official statement on Paris, you think it would be mentioned. For example, they put out a statement about killing Abu Ali al Baridi who was an ISIS guy and that has several articles out there.

Apologizing for and defending Al Nusra. Reaching even deeper lows here.


And in regards to this:



He and you are trying pretend all opposition to Assad is like Nusra. And that any support any anti-Assad group is support for al Nusra.


Yeah the FSA, Jaish al Islam, Islamic Front and the many other Islamist rebel groups are not technically Al Nusra. So you are right! All the rebels aren't Al Nusra. They just all work together, coordinate together, share supply lines, supplies, intelligence, safe zones, attack together and do almost everything together. They essentially work as different regiments within the same army. But yeah. It's very convenient for some people to call them separate, different groups. In the real world, the warzone in Syria, if you strongly support one of these "separate" groups, you support all their direct allies too.

[KevinNYC]

Apologizing for and defending Al Nusra. Reaching even deeper lows here.

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Your google search failed didn't it?

Couldn't find one other source for your good journalism?

You could change your opinion or you could attack, Attack, ATTACK!

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[NumberSix]

OMFG..... :roll:

A guy on Fox News just said.....

"I put bacon in my hollowed point bullets so when I whack the terrorist, he ain't going to his 72 virgin".

He said this completely out of the blue. Wtf?


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[LJJ]

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Your google search failed didn't it?

Couldn't find one other source for your good journalism?

You could change your opinion or you could attack, Attack, ATTACK!

:banana: :banana:

Projecting much? You are the one coming in here talking about feverishly searching through Google and desperately clinging to anything that supports your view on this conflict, which throughout the course of the conflict has been proven to be very naive again and again and again.

And then spreading around what you found in your Google sessions, no matter how partisan, obviously incomplete and poorly written it is.

You really need more sources to prove Al Qaeda supports attacks on civilians? Okay buddy, keep living in your own echo chamber.

[HitandRun Reggie]

OMFG..... :roll:

A guy on Fox News just said.....

"I put bacon in my hollowed point bullets so when I whack the terrorist, he ain't going to his 72 virgin".

He said this completely out of the blue. Wtf?


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They already have packaged ammo for this purpose available for sale. It's called "JiHawg" Ammunition. :oldlol: No dippin' required. :lol

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/5/9/2/8/1/2/i/1/5/1/o/jihawg2.JPG

[Nick Young]

If someone forces pork in to their body by killing them with pork coated bullets, it's more likely that Allah will give the terrorist more than 72 virgins once he gets to martyr heaven.


I'm pretty sure in Islam you're allowed to eat pork and commit other sins if you have to do it to preserve your life. So if a Muslim dies getting shot by evil pork bullets, Allah will definitely forgive him.