View Full Version : White Americans Long For The 1950s, When They Didn
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 12:35 PM
White picket fences, a chicken in every pot, a car in every garage, and Jim Crow in the South...
Yes, you read that headline correctly.
In a new poll released by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) on Tuesday, a whopping 43 percent of Americans told researchers that discrimination against whites has become as large a problem as discrimination against blacks and other minority groups. And an even bigger share of Americans — 53 percent — told pollsters American culture and "way of life" have mostly changed for the worse since 1950.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/
The two would appear to be related. Here's how.
First, there are some real and large differences in the way that different groups of Americans answered those two questions up above. Half of white Americans — including 60 percent of the white working class — told researchers that discrimination against whites has become as big a problem today as discrimination against blacks and other minorities. Meanwhile, 29 percent of Latinos and 25 percent of black Americans agreed. White Americans feel put-upon and mistreated — and large shares of non-white Americans do not seem to have any knowledge of the challenges that white Americans say they face.
Of course, there are always aspects of other people's lives that we do not or cannot understand. But the sheer size of the racial/ethnic gap concerning perceived discrimination against white Americans is particularly interesting because there is very little in the way of objective evidence of this discrimination and the disadvantage that typically follows. On just about every measure of social or economic well-being, white Americans fare better than any other group.
That's true of housing and neighborhood quality and homeownership. That's true of overall health, health insurance coverage rates, quality of health care received, life expectancy and infant mortality. That's true when it comes to median household earnings, wealth (assets minus debt), retirement savings and even who has a bank account.
That's true when one actually looks at who is graduating from college, who holds the bulk of the nation's high-paying and management jobs and who does not. That last point really has to be made clear. Look closely at the chart below. Notice a pattern? Asian Americans out-earn all other groups, but not by much, despite, as a group, obtaining more education. And black women and Latinas both have more education than their male counterparts. But that doesn't show up in their earnings.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/
White Americans are, as a group, born healthier and live longer and get better health care, jobs, education and housing in the years in between. Yet half of white Americans believe that discrimination against them is as big a problem in their lives as it is for those of people of color. But there's just no evidence to back that up.
What does exist is ample evidence of continued-but-shrinking racial and ethnic inequality in many arenas and utter stagnation and backsliding in others. Basically, what's changed since the 1950s — outside of technological innovations such as this here Internet — is that white Americans no longer have an exclusive or almost-exclusive hold on the best housing, jobs, schools or the ballot box.
Doubt that those changes are driving the differences of opinion outlined above? Consider this.
A full 60 percent of black Americans and 54 percent of Latinos told PRRI researchers that American culture has mostly changed for the better since the 1950s. In contrast, only 42 percent of white Americans agreed. In fact, 57 percent of white Americans told pollsters that the American way of life has mostly changed for the worse over the past 60 years.
Yes, nearly 60 percent of white Americans believe that life in America before the advent of the cassette tape, the ATM, IVF, the hand-held calculator and the bar code was better than it is today. Apparently life was very good for these Americans, when segregated public facilities were a legal requirement in the South and Southeast and a social norm in many other places. Most people of color could not obtain credit or a loan from most "mainstream" banks. Most women of all races and ethnicities could not do so either. This was a vastly different America, one where life was not at all easy for a whole lot of people. Still, this is the America for which apparently many white Americans long.
That this is understood as a better "way of life" is, to say the least, disturbing.
Those inclined to view all things about America through an optimistic lens will will inevitably start by questioning the validity of the data. That is a nonstarter here. PRRI is a respected research organization that meets rigorous polling standards. The survey gathered the opinions of 2,695 randomly selected adults (age 18 and up) living in the United States including all 50 states and the District of Columbia. So the sample here also is not small.
Finally, if your explanation for the poll's findings includes the idea that white Americans might have answered without giving much thought to (or simply don't know) when legal segregation ended, when and to what degree other gender, racial and ethnic disparities began to shrink and which remain, please think again. To believe the things highlighted in the PRRI poll, one either has to be tragically misinformed, unwilling to accept widely available facts or utterly unconcerned with the conditions that shape many Americans' lives.
None of those options are good.
Story Source (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/)
Poll Source (http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/American-Values-Survey-2015-Topline.pdf)
Has Faux News been on to something all along? Is the White man now the most persecuted group in the World as they'd have you believe?
http://images.rapgenius.com/f4b95826f6f95df143c1476d4bd58d1c.320x320x1.jpg
Thoughts?
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 12:40 PM
Your discrimination and hate will not keep us whiteys down. We will continue to help the world with important scientific discoveries and infrastructure, just as we've always done.
If you leave us alone, we will come up with brilliant scientific advancements for you and everyone else.
#GIVEWHITEYSACHANCE
~primetime~
11-19-2015, 12:44 PM
Irony...
Create thread that discriminates whites for feeling discriminated against.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 12:45 PM
What is discrimination against whites? Has anyone actually experienced that before?
I grew up poor and white, but I can't say I've ever been discriminated against or that I even know what the hell that is.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 12:50 PM
What is discrimination against whites? Has anyone actually experienced that before?
I grew up poor and white, but I can't say I've ever been discriminated against or that I even know what the hell that is.
You grew up in Michigan where everyone else around you was white. Your experience doesn't speak for every white person. That is a logical fallacy.
Discrimination against white people is the same as discrimination against any other race.
Discrimination
noun
1. an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit:
racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment:
She chose the colors with great discrimination.
4.Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 12:51 PM
Your discrimination and hate will not keep us whiteys down. We will continue to help the world with important scientific discoveries and infrastructure, just as we've always done.
If you leave us alone, we will come up with brilliant scientific advancements for you and everyone else.
#GIVEWHITEYSACHANCE
mmmhhhmmmm, mmmhmmm... Fascinating.
But what are your thoughts on the study/poll? :confusedshrug:
Irony...
Create thread that discriminates whites for feeling discriminated against.
Small micro-aggression bump, bruh. I apologize for making you feel discriminated against and marginalized. Sometimes my cisgender Black Imperialist mentality gets the best of me. It's something I will have to work on.
Discrimination against white people is the same as discrimination against any other race.
Expand on this, please...
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 12:53 PM
The poll obviously represents the views of white people who took the poll.
Why are you mocking victims for suffering racial abuse and discrimination?
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 12:54 PM
Expand on this, please...
Racism is racism. If people are racist and discriminate against white people because of their race, that is racial discrimination.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 12:55 PM
The poll obviously represents the views of white people who took the poll.
Why are you mocking victims for suffering racial abuse and discrimination?
Where did I mock anyone? You really think the worst of me. :confusedshrug:
I just want to understand the plight of the modern day White man and why he longs so much for the glory days of the Utopian 1950s.
~primetime~
11-19-2015, 12:56 PM
Why do you hate white people Don?
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:00 PM
Why do you hate white people Don?
When have I ever displayed hate for any group? After becoming a cognizant Human being in Apartheid era South Africa, I was fortunate to grow up in a quintessential melting pot in NYC. I hold no ill will or animosity towards any people.
I just want to understand...
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:03 PM
Where did I mock anyone? You really think the worst of me. :confusedshrug:
I just want to understand the plight of the modern day White man and why he longs so much for the glory days of the Utopian 1950s.
I don't think the 50s are the glory days.
Our whitie plight is one of struggle. We constantly watch underqualified people of other races get jobs and university spots ahead of us due to "diversity" quotients. We are constantly told growing up in school that our race is evil and we are responsible for everything bad in the world, whether it be violence in the middle east, or the Twin Towers getting blown up.
One day we hope to see equality, but that day is far from now.
~primetime~
11-19-2015, 01:03 PM
When have I ever displayed hate for any group? After becoming a cognizant Human being in Apartheid era South Africa, I was fortunate to grow up in a quintessential melting pot in NYC. I hold no ill will or animosity towards any people.
I just want to understand...
please don't kill me
I have a black friend, okay?
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:05 PM
When have I ever displayed hate for any group?
Here is the hate you have shown on ISH:
Hatred towards the Russians who got blown up in the Egyptian plane.
Hatred towards white people, for existing.
Hatred towards East Asians, for being as successful as white people.
Akrazotile
11-19-2015, 01:07 PM
Individuals of all groups can get along with people they know personally. And many may lack specific hostility toward other groups. But all groups are generally ethnocentric. They prefer whatever culture they value to stay on top. If it's white culture, so be it.
No need to apologize. No need to feel guilty.
Say it loud, say it proud etc.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:11 PM
I don't think the 50s are the glory days.
Our whitie plight is one of struggle. We constantly watch underqualified people of other races get jobs and university spots ahead of us due to "diversity" quotients. We are constantly told growing up in school that our race is evil and we are responsible for everything bad in the world, whether it be violence in the middle east, or the Twin Towers getting blown up.
One day we hope to see equality, but that day is far from now.
That day is gonna come. Keep hope alive. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs)
https://media.giphy.com/media/IirO8SyQeqzCM/giphy.gif
please don't kill me
I have a black friend, okay?
No dice.
LikeABosh
11-19-2015, 01:11 PM
:sleeping
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:14 PM
Here is the hate you have shown on ISH:
Hatred towards the Russians who got blown up in the Egyptian plane.
Hatred towards white people, for existing.
Hatred towards East Asians, for being as successful as white people.
1) You're just projecting. I may have called that attack as a result of Russian aggression from the jump when you were trying to join the new KGB... but I denounce the killing of innocents.
2) I don't begrudge anyone existing.
3) I love the Chinaman.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 01:16 PM
You grew up in Michigan where everyone else around you was white. Your experience doesn't speak for every white person. That is a logical fallacy.
Discrimination against white people is the same as discrimination against any other race.
I grew up in the city and went to public schools with black and hispanic students.
Please show me the white person in America who can't get a house, job, loan, or quality education due to discrimination against caucasians.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:19 PM
That day is gonna come. Keep hope alive. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs)
https://media.giphy.com/media/IirO8SyQeqzCM/giphy.gif
No dice.
You are no different from the KKK.
It's not wise to put your racist opinions on the internet. I hope you are aware that the racist, hateful things you write will never go away. Future employers are not in to racists, dude. This current attitude of "it's ok to be racist towards white people, LOL" is not going to last forever, just as Jim Crow laws didn't last forever.
What is discrimination against whites? Has anyone actually experienced that before?
I grew up poor and white, but I can't say I've ever been discriminated against or that I even know what the hell that is.
Houston FD.
Blacks complained about a written test to make LT saying written tests are racist. So, HFD promoted them all.
Blacks get promoted to LT despite not passing the test.
I would say all those white lieutenants were discriminated against because in order to become a LT, they had to pass a test while the black LTs did not.
If I made you do something to earn $10, while I gave a black man $10 because he's black, are you not being discriminated against? I bet you if I reversed the situation, you'd say it's discrimination.
This process has been repeated in every government department.
Akrazotile
11-19-2015, 01:22 PM
I grew up in the city and went to public schools with black and hispanic students.
Please show me the white person in America who can't get a house, job, loan, or quality education due to discrimination against caucasians.
If a white guy and black guy have the same exact grades the black guy is more likely to be admitted to a college, bc hes black, and the university will assume it can still fill its white quota with applicants that have higher grades.
Thats discrimination based on color.
The Congressional Black Caucus in Congress refuses white applicants based on their color. That's workplace discrimination.
Also, why are you such a he-bitch?
zoom17
11-19-2015, 01:23 PM
What's the point of this thread so random.
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 01:23 PM
I grew up in the city and went to public schools with black and hispanic students.
Please show me the white person in America who can't get a house, job, loan, or quality education due to discrimination against caucasians.
Well, there was that mizzou president who had to resign for being white.
Not saying it's a big deal, cause I don't use your skin color or race or economic status as a crutch or excuse but...
Some do.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:24 PM
I grew up in the city and went to public schools with black and hispanic students.
Please show me the white person in America who can't get a house, job, loan, or quality education due to discrimination against caucasians.
Everyone in America can get a job regardless of race. It is hard for white people to get jobs in the current environment, as people of other races with less qualifications are often able to get positions ahead of better qualified white people, due to diversity quotas. If you think diversity quotas don't exist, you're mistaken.
I have sat on hiring boards at my old job in the Student Union at my school. I've personally witnessed how qualified white people get completely dismissed in favor of underqualified people of other races, due to our need for 'diversity'. I have seen it in action, I have read about it online, and now I am experiencing it myself with you and DonDadda denying the racism and discrimination that exists vs white people.
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 01:25 PM
If a white guy and black guy have the same exact grades the black guy is more likely to be admitted to a college, bc hes black, and the university will assume it can still fill its white quota with applicants that have higher grades.
Thats discrimination based on color.
Well, if a private institution wants to prefer blacks over whites, why shouldn't they be able to do that?
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 01:26 PM
Once again don shows his true colors
He doesn't care about the states and affairs of his country... Only his "people"... If Obama weren't in office he probably wouldn't care about these sorts of issues.... Well the liberals would still be exploiting minorities for political demographic advantage, so maybe he'd still be pulling with his left hand.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:26 PM
You are no different from the KKK.
:biggums:
I've never lynched another person, on purpose. And I only burn crosses metaphorically.
It's not wise to put your racist opinions on the internet. I hope you are aware that the racist, hateful things you write will never go away. Future employers are not in to racists, dude.
As well they shouldn't be. :applause:
If a white guy and black guy have the same exact grades the black guy is more likely to be admitted to a college, bc hes black, and the university will assume it can still fill its white quota with applicants that have higher grades.
Thats discrimination based on color.
The Congressional Black Caucus in Congress refuses white applicants based on their color. That's workplace discrimination.
Also, why are you such a he-bitch?
Hey, there will be no White on White violence in this thread. :no:
Deuces was merely sharing his personal experience and asking questions. But I appreciate you giving specific examples of why people want to go back to the Jim Crow era. At least we're getting into specifics now. :applause:
Any more?
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 01:28 PM
Yo Don....why you be stirring whitey's pot?...if they don't start calming down we gonna have to bust out the fire hoses on they azz'ez
It's been a rough year for whitey...let them vent...
1. The new Luke SkyWalker is Black....and is gonna be putting his Light Saber all up in Princess Leia's daughter ...
2. The Confederate Flag...America's last symbol of " White's only" got taken down
3. Apollo Creed actually is the real winner .... had the better son.
4.A strong symbol of white Masculinity ..... turned into Caitlyn Jenner....and all his daughters want BBC
5. Jimmer can't get no playing time...
and quite frankly it's only gonna get worse.....next generation whiteys gonna have it way tougher....
pulled over while driving white.....the Black man won't hire whites ....No affordable Housing in the suburbs....when Mexicans commit a crime it's a mental disorder....but If a white man commits a crime it's because they are all savage Thugs!
Damn!...thank GOD I'm Brown!...:cheers:
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:28 PM
Once again don shows his true colors
He doesn't care about the states and affairs of his country... Only his "people"... If Obama weren't in office he probably wouldn't care about these sorts of issues.... Well the liberals would still be exploiting minorities for political demographic advantage, so maybe he'd still be pulling with his left hand.
How's the Dingo baby-eating issue down under going?
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:31 PM
Yo Don....why you be stirring whitey's pot?...if they don't start calming down we gonna have to bust out the fire hoses on they azz'ez
It's been a rough year for whitey...let them vent...
1. The new Luke SkyWalker is Black....and is gonna be putting his Light Saber all up in Princess Leia's daughter ...
2. The Confederate Flag...America's last symbol of " White's only" got taken down
3. Apollo Creed actually is the real winner .... had the better son.
4.A strong symbol of white Masculinity ..... turned into Caitlyn Jenner....and all his daughters want BBC
5. Jimmer can't get no playing time...
and quite frankly it's only gonna get worse.....next generation whiteys gonna have it way tougher....
pulled over while driving white.....the Black man won't hire whites ....No affordable Housing in the suburbs....when Mexicans commit a crime it's a mental disorder....but If a white man commits a crime it's because they are all savage Thugs!
Damn!...thank GOD I'm Brown!...:cheers:
Yo was Creed a good movie? The trailer makes it look cool, I want to check out that and the new Tom Hardy gangster movie.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:33 PM
Yo Don....why you be stirring whitey's pot?...if they don't start calming down we gonna have to bust out the fire hoses on they azz'ez
It's been a rough year for whitey...let them vent...
1. The new Luke SkyWalker is Black....and is gonna be putting his Light Saber all up in Princess Leia's daughter ...
2. The Confederate Flag...America's last symbol of " White's only" got taken down
3. Apollo Creed actually is the real winner .... had the better son.
4.A strong symbol of white Masculinity ..... turned into Caitlyn Jenner....and all his daughters want BBC
5. Jimmer can't get no playing time...
and quite frankly it's only gonna get worse.....next generation whiteys gonna have it way tougher....
pulled over while driving white.....the Black man won't hire whites ....No affordable Housing in the suburbs....when Mexicans commit a crime it's a mental disorder....but If a white man commits a crime it's because they are all savage Thugs!
Damn!...thank GOD I'm Brown!... :cheers:
Wow, looking over that list... no wonder the White man wants to go back to the Glory days. Nothing but Ls lately.
I just hope that feeling of alienation and powerlessness doesn't lead to more of the violent radicalization we've seen in recent years. Al Craqa preys on individuals like that.
Yo was Creed a good movie? The trailer makes it look cool, I want to check out that and the new Tom Hardy gangster movie.
Getting rave reviews so far, Oscar buzz.
The Black man owns Rocky now.
Another L.
~primetime~
11-19-2015, 01:36 PM
I watch the NBA Don
That means I love black people...okay?
just leave me alone
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 01:36 PM
Yo was Creed a good movie? The trailer makes it look cool, I want to check out that and the new Tom Hardy gangster movie.
Haven't seen it yet....comes out next week..;...
but early reviews say it's F'ing Awesome!
I Love all the Rocky movies so....it's tradition.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:37 PM
Getting rave reviews so far, Oscar buzz.
The Black man owns Rocky now.
Another L.
Wasn't Creed's son trained by a white guy (rocky)-a white guy who was trained by a black guy (creed's trainer) and a white guy? (mickey)
If anything, this just goes to show what happens when blacks and whites are united and on the same page.
GRAY is what we should be striving for.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:41 PM
Here's a new example of discrimination against white people.
Scripps College in Claremont has made their campus coffee house a "safe space." Whites only allowed during certain hours.
In the wake of last week’s protests and resignations at Claremont McKenna College (CMC), “safe spaces” for students of marginalized identities are popping up all over the campuses of the Claremont Colleges. After protestors called for action, CMC President Hiram Chodosh stated his commitment to providing a permanent safe space for students of color in the near future. Until then, the Associated Students of Claremont McKenna College (ASCMC) have dedicated part of their office as a safe space for these students.
Safe spaces for minority students have appeared on the campuses of other Claremont Colleges as well. Last week, the Motley Coffeehouse at Scripps College issued a statement on its official Facebook page, “The Motley sitting room will be open tonight from 6-10 only for people of color and allies that they invite. Please feel free to come and use the space for whatever you need – decompress, discuss, grieve, plan, support each other, etc. In solidarity.”
http://claremontindependent.com/safe-spaces-segregate-the-claremont-colleges/
Christ. What are these whiney babies even upset about? what do they need to grieve and support each other for?
This shit is Neo-Jim Crow laws. History will not look back kindly on people who institute this kind of legislature.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:42 PM
I watch the NBA Don
That means I love black people...okay?
just leave me alone
You know who else loved the NBA?
Donald Sterling.
Wasn't Creed's son trained by a white guy (rocky)-a white guy who was trained by a black guy (creed's trainer) and a white guy? (mickey)
If anything, this just goes to show what happens when blacks and whites are united and on the same page.
GRAY is what we should be striving for.
I can't argue with this. :applause:
Only through healing and community harmony can we ease the White man's pain and make America more of the ideal Utopia it was in 1954.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Everyone in America can get a job regardless of race. It is hard for white people to get jobs in the current environment, as people of other races with less qualifications are often able to get positions ahead of better qualified white people, due to diversity quotas. If you think diversity quotas don't exist, you're mistaken.
I have sat on hiring boards at my old job in the Student Union at my school. I've personally witnessed how qualified white people get completely dismissed in favor of underqualified people of other races, due to our need for 'diversity'. I have seen it in action, I have read about it online, and now I am experiencing it myself with you and DonDadda denying the racism and discrimination that exists vs white people.
You just saying shit doesn't make it true. If you're white and can't get a quality job, home, or education you have bigger problems than some black guy.
Akrazotile
11-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Well, if a private institution wants to prefer blacks over whites, why shouldn't they be able to do that?
I didnt say they shouldnt...?
He asked for examples of white discrimination in practice and I gave one.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Here's a new example of discrimination against white people.
Scripps College in Claremont has made their campus coffee house a "safe space." Whites only allowed during certain hours.
http://claremontindependent.com/safe-spaces-segregate-the-claremont-colleges/
Christ. What are these whiney babies even upset about? what do they need to grieve and support each other for?
This shit is Neo-Jim Crow laws. History will not look back kindly on people who institute this kind of legislature.
We're going back to the Jim Crow era like Whites want... just not in the way they were expecting. :eek:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/editorial/images/feed/msms/photos/4366302.jpg
AceManIII
11-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Interesting
You just saying shit doesn't make it true. If you're white and can't get a quality job, home, or education you have bigger problems than some black guy.
If you're a white guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education...
You're probably in the same boat as the black guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education.
Except the black man is at an advantage, because he gets preferential hiring (if the two men tried for the same job) and special educational benefits (scholarships and grants) not available to the white guy.
dude77
11-19-2015, 01:47 PM
:oldlol: whitey living rent free in op's head .. can't blame him though .. when you've been dominated for this long by a group of people, the jimmie rustlin ain't going away anytime soon
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:49 PM
You just saying shit doesn't make it true.
You living in denial doesn't make your world view true.
If you're white and can't get a quality job, home, or education you have bigger problems than some black guy.
Be careful son, you're unintentionally showing your backwards racism again:roll: :roll: :roll:
FUBU is to black culture what sombreros are to Mexican culture. Those are your own views Deucey, remember? XD
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 01:49 PM
If you're a white guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education...
You're probably in the same boat as the black guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education.
Except the black man is at an advantage, because he gets preferential hiring (if the two men tried for the same job) and special educational benefits (scholarships and grants) not available to the white guy.
Tell me what you know of the practice of redlining...
:oldlol: whitey living rent free in op's head .. can't blame him though .. when you've been dominated for this long by a group of people, the jimmie rustlin ain't going away anytime soon
What? If anyone's jimmie's are rustled... isn't it the White people who engaged in this poll? :confusedshrug:
TripleA
11-19-2015, 01:49 PM
What a time to not be white. Black people gettin more rights.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 01:51 PM
If you're a white guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education...
You're probably in the same boat as the black guy who can't get a quality job, home, or education.
Except the black man is at an advantage, because he gets preferential hiring (if the two men tried for the same job) and special educational benefits (scholarships and grants) not available to the white guy.
No. The rate at which that happens is so incredibly infrequent that you truly do have other problems. For every affirmative hiring process there's 20 businesses that won't touch a black guy. Just an excuse for dumb ass rednecks with shitty lives who can't find a job.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 01:52 PM
You living in denial doesn't make your world view true.
Be careful son, you're unintentionally showing your backwards racism again:roll: :roll: :roll:
FUBU is to black culture what sombreros are to Mexican culture. Those are your own views Deucey, remember? XD
You're a ****-tard if you believe a bunch of 19 year old kids in sombreros serving up tacos at the food court is an homage to traditional American culture.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 01:56 PM
You're a ****-tard if you believe a bunch of 19 year old kids in sombreros serving up tacos at the food court is an homage to traditional American culture.
Sombreros are part of Mexican culture. Yes, wearing sombreros while serving Mexican food is homage to Mexican culture.
Mexicans dress up in sombreros for fun sometimes. They sell sombreros to tourists and people of all races. Mexicans don't have a problem with non-Mexicans wearing sombreros and serving tacos, so why do you?
No. The rate at which that happens is so incredibly infrequent that you truly do have other problems. For every affirmative hiring process there's 20 businesses that won't touch a black guy. Just an excuse for dumb ass rednecks with shitty lives who can't find a job.
Brush it off, deflect, finish your statement off with your own version of racism.
Typical leftist response.
Be careful, pretty soon you may not be able to say such demeaning things. PC police are gonna be out in force.
Akrazotile
11-19-2015, 01:59 PM
You're a ****-tard if you believe a bunch of 19 year old kids in sombreros serving up tacos at the food court is an homage to traditional American culture.
Youre an enormous cornball for caring whether it is or not.
Your act of trying to be the authority on all things sensitivity is so cringeworthy. Just an uncool pansy still desperately looking for some kind of social identity.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 02:00 PM
No. The rate at which that happens is so incredibly infrequent that you truly do have other problems. For every affirmative hiring process there's 20 businesses that won't touch a black guy. Just an excuse for dumb ass rednecks with shitty lives who can't find a job.
You're openly advocating institutional discrimination
It's 2015 bro
~primetime~
11-19-2015, 02:01 PM
Please put the gun down Don, you can have whatever is in my wallet...okay?
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 02:01 PM
No. The rate at which that happens is so incredibly infrequent that you truly do have other problems. For every affirmative hiring process there's 20 businesses that won't touch a black guy. Just an excuse for dumb ass rednecks with shitty lives who can't find a job.
Do you have any facts, statistics or references to back this statement up?
What a time to not be white. Black people gettin more rights.
It's ironic really. Let's try it this way...
I graduated from high school with shitty grades, but was a two sport star.
I joined the Marine Corps right out of high school.
I got out, enrolled in school, got a job working in a warehouse third shift.
I applied for another job at the same company, and got it.
Now... show me one black American citizen in this country who is NOT ALLOWED to repeat the same steps I took.
DonDadda59
11-19-2015, 02:02 PM
You're openly advocating institutional discrimination
It's 2015 bro
Out there it's 2015. In here, it's always 1954.
Please put the gun down Don, you can have whatever is in my wallet...okay?
Overt racism. I like that. :applause:
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 02:05 PM
Keep the focus on the real enemy here guys. Left wing jerkoffs. Blacks are just a beneficiary to their inane psychosis political minority exploitation.
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 02:07 PM
Sombreros are part of Mexican culture. Yes, wearing sombreros while serving Mexican food is homage to Mexican culture.
Mexicans dress up in sombreros for fun sometimes. They sell sombreros to tourists and people of all races. Mexicans don't have a problem with non-Mexicans wearing sombreros and serving tacos, so why do you?
I'm telling y'all....in about 20 years.....minority white Folks are gonna be soooo preterved!
Jimmy Crack Corn day at Miami U.....everyone put on yer Newsboy hats and suspenders......Non Whites/Majority will be serving Bologna mayonnaise sandwiches and Macaroni to all the Minority whites....
calling it now...book it.
Jameerthefear
11-19-2015, 02:08 PM
Blacks living rent free. I WIN.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 02:09 PM
Do you have any facts, statistics or references to back this statement up?
There are quite a few scientific studies on overt racism in rental housing, loan acquisition, and employment hiring.
I can't sit on the internet all day promoting my fake internet persona like yourself, but if you want to get a head start and learn a few things based in science, I would suggest Google Scholar as a starting point. Can use your universities VPN for articles you can't access.
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 02:10 PM
Youre an enormous cornball for caring whether it is or not.
Your act of trying to be the authority on all things sensitivity is so cringeworthy. Just an uncool pansy still desperately looking for some kind of social identity.
I don't care now and I didn't really care then, but NY tries to use it as some talking point in every thread, so I will re-state my original point.
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 02:10 PM
It's ironic really. Let's try it this way...
I graduated from high school with shitty grades, but was a two sport star.
I joined the Marine Corps right out of high school.
I got out, enrolled in school, got a job working in a warehouse third shift.
I applied for another job at the same company, and got it.
Now... show me one black American citizen in this country who is NOT ALLOWED to repeat the same steps I took.
this fool is Mad that Blacks and Mexicans were better Marines/more Hard Corp....
:lol
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 02:11 PM
Brush it off, deflect, finish your statement off with your own version of racism.
Typical leftist response.
Be careful, pretty soon you may not be able to say such demeaning things. PC police are gonna be out in force.
That's not racist, it's prejudicial.
I'm telling y'all....in about 20 years.....minority white Folks are gonna be soooo preterved!
Jimmy Crack Corn day at Miami U.....everyone put on yer Newsboy hats and suspenders......Non Whites/Majority will be serving Bologna mayonnaise sandwiches and Macaroni to all the Minority whites....
calling it now...book it.
You could do that now, and I don't think anyone would care.
A minor league baseball team tried to do that as a joke... and the game was sold out for 'white heritage night'... It was khaki night and clips of Friends were going to be on the big board.
But even as a joke, some minorities complained it was racist. White people thought it was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 02:12 PM
There are quite a few scientific studies on overt racism in rental housing, loan acquisition, and employment hiring.
I can't sit on the internet all day promoting my fake internet persona like yourself, but if you want to get a head start and learn a few things based in science, I would suggest Google Scholar as a starting point. Can use your universities VPN for articles you can't access.
Can you please post some facts and statistics to back up your broad statements?
That's not racist, it's prejudicial.
Dumbass rednecks with shitty jobs isn't racist?
Why cause you didn't say the word 'white'?
How about 'poor, uneducated, government dependent city thugs with no jobs'?
That's not racist, right?
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 02:14 PM
You could do that now, and I don't think anyone would care.
A minor league baseball team tried to do that as a joke... and the game was sold out for 'white heritage night'... It was khaki night and clips of Friends were going to be on the big board.
But even as a joke, some minorities complained it was racist. White people thought it was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious.
white people are already getting Butthurt and complaining....over nothing!
read yer own posts....you are a disgrace...not only to white folks...but to the military also!...
I can only Imagine in 20 - 30 years.....
jimmy Crack Corn day is gonna make them want to riot!
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 02:15 PM
Odds on whether AlphaWolf finished high school
white people are already getting Butthurt and complaining....over nothing!
read yer own posts....you are a disgrace...not only to white folks...but to the military also!...
I can only Imagine in 20 - 30 years.....
jimmy Crack Corn day is gonna make them want to riot!
I already pointed out where whites have attempted to have Jimmy Crack Corn day. Are you having trouble following along? :oldlol:
You should check out Hillybilly Days. It's sort of along the same line.
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 02:22 PM
I already pointed out where whites have attempted to have Jimmy Crack Corn day. Are you having trouble following along? :oldlol:
You should check out Hillybilly Days. It's sort of along the same line.
Like I said...It's gonna take on a new meaning in a generation from now.
It's gonna be a symbol that Whites are the Minority....and no longer have the same power.
It's not gonna be the same as you laughing at yourself.....
Smook B
11-19-2015, 02:24 PM
If it isn't black it's wack isn't that right OP?
Like I said...It's gonna take on a new meaning in a generation from now.
It's gonna be a symbol that Whites are the Minority....and no longer have the same power.
It's not gonna be the same as you laughing at yourself.....
Making fun of white people will always be enjoyable.
Check out the book 'Stuff White People Like'. Read through that, and tell me if it doesn't make you laugh. And it's all true.
White people are easy to make fun of. What can I say?
Here's an excerpt:
Every four years the planet comes together to celebrate the World Cup and since white people make up a portion the world, they are not immune to the excitement.
However, before you start planning out long watching sessions with white people you should be aware of exactly why white people get so excited about the World Cup. Though you may be waiting on bated breath for your favorite sport on a global scale, white people like the World Cup because it allows them to pretend they are European for a few weeks, and more importantly, it allows them to get drunk at odd hours.
Virtually every white person you speak to about the World Cup is incapable of remembering any actual event that took place during a game but can, with near total recall, remember how they got very drunk on Sangria during a Spain-Paraguay match at five in the morning.
From reading the above paragraph, the sharper ones among you have likely noticed that clever white people also adore the World Cup because it allows them to pair countries with their respective alcoholic drink.
“England is playing Argentina? Dude we gotta get some Newcastle then like, I don’t know, like some wine I guess?”
This plan will be consummated with a high five, a trip to Trader Joes, and the purchase of a soccer jersey that will be worn, on average, twice a decade.
It’s also worth noting the amazing interest shown by white women in the World Cup. While they generally find most professional sporting events to be boring, the atmosphere at a World Cup match is much more amenable. Mostly because they don’t have to drink light beer and there is a good chance that they might meet a European man, or, at least someone who might be planning a trip there. This is far superior to a hockey game where, at best, they might meet a Canadian. It goes without saying that for white women, the World Cup can’t come soon enough.
Tell me that's not true...
I am trying to invite you into the world where you are able to laugh at yourself, and your race, but all you care about is wanting to offend somebody. Why?
ROCSteady
11-19-2015, 02:34 PM
Talk about epic plot twists
AlphaWolf24
11-19-2015, 02:38 PM
Odds on whether AlphaWolf finished high school
0...
- left when I was 15....worked and traveled the World for 4 years.
- while most kids were at home whacking off to anime I was all over Asia planting seeds and waxing azz on and off they should have called me Mr. Mayagi...
I'm tell you right now...90% of education is worthless....waste of time....and for most a waste of $
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 03:01 PM
Can you please post some facts and statistics to back up your broad statements?
You can get started with these (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=racial+discrimination&as_epq=&as_oq=hiring+housing+loan&as_eq=&as_occt=any&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=1%2C39).
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Dumbass rednecks with shitty jobs isn't racist?
Why cause you didn't say the word 'white'?
How about 'poor, uneducated, government dependent city thugs with no jobs'?
That's not racist, right?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redneck
oh the horror
11-19-2015, 03:59 PM
I'll say this. If whites had to endure what they historically put African Americans through in the past today, they'd shrivel up like a limp d*ck on a cold winter's morning.
I bet deep down in their f*cking souls it destroys some of them that it's been said they'd be the minority in the United States in the future.
The general consensus is the fabric of the US is crumbling and it isn't like "the good ol days". Meanwhile the good ol days were some of the worst years for anyone else NOT Caucasian.
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 04:03 PM
I'll say this. If whites had to endure what they historically put African Americans through in the past today, they'd shrivel up like a limp d*ck on a cold winter's morning
What do you mean "if"?
This did happen. In both Spain and Eastern Europe.
What do you mean "if"?
This did happen. In both Spain and Eastern Europe.
And America.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
But let's not let that spoil all the fun.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:10 PM
Oh save your soul sucking, victim bullshit for somewhere else. The whole world was a completely different place in the 1700's
Slavery was a commonplace all around the known world... Those black slaves were caught and sold by OTHER BLACKS... And thus was the Slave trade triangle of Africa, Europe and Colonial America. You cannot bend history for your own favor you revisionist noodle doo. Stop trying to shift blame and shame to whites.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-19-2015, 04:18 PM
I'll say this. If whites had to endure what they historically put African Americans through in the past today, they'd shrivel up like a limp d*ck on a cold winter's morning.
I bet deep down in their f*cking souls it destroys some of them that it's been said they'd be the minority in the United States in the future.
The general consensus is the fabric of the US is crumbling and it isn't like "the good ol days". Meanwhile the good ol days were some of the worst years for anyone else NOT Caucasian.
http://articles.courant.com/1999-03-17/news/9903140025_1_potato-famine-irish-americans-irish-immigrants
Congrats on being an ignorant dumb ass.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:22 PM
http://articles.courant.com/1999-03-17/news/9903140025_1_potato-famine-irish-americans-irish-immigrants
Congrats on being an ignorant dumb ass.
"That's what the ******s don't realize. If I got one thing against the black chappies, it's this - no one gives it to you. You have to take it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsyHKsjftY
:pimp:
Dresta
11-19-2015, 04:27 PM
What is discrimination against whites? Has anyone actually experienced that before?
I grew up poor and white, but I can't say I've ever been discriminated against or that I even know what the hell that is.
It's called being told that you're more privileged than the son of Lebron James simply because of the colour of your skin - it would be that kind of discrimination, i would guess. It must really suck to be an unsuccessful white in this day and age (no excuses for you: how could you fail with all the privileges 'white' skin brings?). Maybe that's why middle aged whites are the only demographic in America whose life expectancy is going downwards, and quite quickly too. They're hated and despised and people would rather pretend poor and unfortunate members of this class don't exist, so they can continue to exercise a kind of tribal hatred of the mysterious and unquantifiable force of 'white privilege.'
Then there's the affirmative action programs that enable privileged middle-class black kids to leap-frog their working class white counterparts despite having 200 fewer SAT point or whatever (for all the whining the above article does about proof - the acceptance rates based on SAT scores is clear proof of discrimination based on skin-colour, against whites and east-asians.
I've never really understood the term 'white' much to begin with, and the way you somehow become non-white by having a mere drop of 'black' blood in you - that, to me, seems like an incredibly racist way of viewing the world. Like blackness is some kind of disease: once you go black your posterity becomes eternally black!
This whole thing is farcical.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:28 PM
You can get started with these (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=racial+discrimination&as_epq=&as_oq=hiring+housing+loan&as_eq=&as_occt=any&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=1%2C39).
Do you have any facts and statistics to back up your claim that " For every affirmative hiring process there's 20 businesses that won't touch a black guy"?
:confusedshrug:
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:30 PM
I'll say this. If whites had to endure what they historically put African Americans through in the past today, they'd shrivel up like a limp d*ck on a cold winter's morning.
I bet deep down in their f*cking souls it destroys some of them that it's been said they'd be the minority in the United States in the future.
The general consensus is the fabric of the US is crumbling and it isn't like "the good ol days". Meanwhile the good ol days were some of the worst years for anyone else NOT Caucasian.
You mean like when Africans and Arabs and Ottoman Turks enslaved European white people?:confusedshrug:
You mean like the Holocaust, which was worse than anything any slave ever had to go through? :confusedshrug:
Or Stalin's purge of Russia, which some historians say resulted in the deaths of as many as 50,000,000 people (http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789)?
Guess who started the Trans-Atlantic slave trade and supplied all of the slaves to Europeans: BLACK PEOPLE.
Black people rounded up and sold their own people in to slavery. Surely black people are equally responsible as white people here. Without a slave supply, there could be no slave trade. Black people were the ones creating the supply.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:32 PM
Isn't Oh The Horror white anyways?
He's posted pictures here before and it's clear you got more European than Aztec in your blood ese'
Dresta
11-19-2015, 04:32 PM
I'll say this. If whites had to endure what they historically put African Americans through in the past today, they'd shrivel up like a limp d*ck on a cold winter's morning.
I bet deep down in their f*cking souls it destroys some of them that it's been said they'd be the minority in the United States in the future.
The general consensus is the fabric of the US is crumbling and it isn't like "the good ol days". Meanwhile the good ol days were some of the worst years for anyone else NOT Caucasian.'Whites' have endured far worse historically - and whites are not a monolith - in the past hundred years the jews have suffered a holocaust, millions of Ukrainians starved to death, millions of Russians and Germans massacred by governments with which most had little to do, 100s of millions forced to live in a kind of servitude that really isn't all that different to slavery (being owned by the state rather than an individual).
This is all long after the abolishment of slavery, something, i might add, that was accomplished by Europeans, and would never have come to pass without (dread) white Europeans (gosh).
edit: and the horrors of slavery are greatly over exaggerated regardless. I'd rather be a Virginia slave of the 1820s than an Irish peasant/slave of the same time. The former is almost guaranteed a better standard of life. Life in pre-Civil war America was often easier for the slave than for a free northern black (who were treated like shit abut had no one to provide for them either).
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:35 PM
Oh the horror ladies and gentlemen
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/horrorm0nez/DB1F7C84-521A-4D1B-919D-31009E03C1F5.jpg
You ain't white tho right?
Pffft. The racial self-loathing denial is high in this one
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 04:36 PM
"That's what the ******s don't realize. If I got one thing against the black chappies, it's this - no one gives it to you. You have to take it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsyHKsjftY
:pimp:
Why didn't you post the entire line?
"Twenty years after an Irishman couldn't get a f--king job, we had the presidency."
Guess who had the presidency two years later. :pimp:
Btw, your gimmick where hump the legs of all the conservative posters? Not a good look.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:37 PM
'Whites' have endured far worse historically - and whites are not a monolith - in the past hundred years the jews have suffered a holocaust, millions of Ukrainians starved to death, millions of Russians and Germans massacred by governments with which most had little to do, 100s of millions forced to live in a kind of servitude that really isn't all that different (being owned by the state rather than an individual).
This is all long after the abolishment of slavery, something, i might add, that was accomplished by Europeans, and would never have come to pass without (dread) white Europeans (gosh).
edit: and the horrors of slavery are greatly over exaggerated regardless. I'd rather be a Virginia slave of the 1820s than an Irish peasant/slave of the same time. The former is almost guaranteed a better standard of life.
White people did their best to get rid of slavery. Black people are STILL the biggest practitioners of slavery. In North America for example, the country with the highest percentage of slaves is Haiti. And look at Mauritania! 4% of the entire population is still living as slaves!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/10/slavery-per-capita-map-wo-arrows.jpg
What's the explanation for this? I thought whiteys were evil oppressors doe!
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 04:39 PM
It's called being told that you're more privileged than the son of Lebron James simply because of the colour of your skin - it would be that kind of discrimination, i would guess. It must really suck to be an unsuccessful white in this day and age (no excuses for you: how could you fail with all the privileges 'white' skin brings?). Maybe that's why middle aged whites are the only demographic in America whose life expectancy is going downwards, and quite quickly too. They're hated and despised and people would rather pretend poor and unfortunate members of this class don't exist, so they can continue to exercise a kind of tribal hatred of the mysterious and unquantifiable force of 'white privilege.'
Then there's the affirmative action programs that enable privileged middle-class black kids to leap-frog their working class white counterparts despite having 200 fewer SAT point or whatever (for all the whining the above article does about proof - the acceptance rates based on SAT scores is clear proof of discrimination based on skin-colour, against whites and east-asians.
I've never really understood the term 'white' much to begin with, and the way you somehow become non-white by having a mere drop of 'black' blood in you - that, to me, seems like an incredibly racist way of viewing the world. Like blackness is some kind of disease: once you go black your posterity becomes eternally black!
This whole thing is farcical.
Lol, don't think I've ever felt hated or despised as a lower middle class white.
And SAT's are bullshit. People get "tie-breakers" on all sorts of horse shit they fill their applications with. I don't care if it's relatively close they give the nod to a minority. Just move on to another school. There are plenty that will take you and it won't affect you long term if you go to NC State instead of Duke/UNC. And you can always, just do better in school; all these schools are filled with white people anyway.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:39 PM
Why didn't you post the entire line?
"Twenty years after an Irishman couldn't get a f--king job, we had the presidency."
Guess who had the presidency two years later. :pimp:
Btw, your gimmick where hump the legs of all the conservative posters? Not a good look.
Took em long enough (3 or 4 decades)
Needed all the liberal support they could get
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:40 PM
Lol, don't think I've ever felt hated or despised as a lower middle class white.
And SAT's are bullshit. People get "tie-breakers" on all sorts of horse shit they fill their applications with. I don't care if it's relatively close they give the nod to a minority. Just move on to another school. There are plenty that will take you and it won't affect you long term if you go to NC State instead of Duke/UNC. And you can always, just do better in school; all these schools are filled with white people anyway.
Stop using logical fallacies.
Your personal experiences do not discount everyone else's experiences.
Try using facts and logic when trying to make a point, rather than emotion and logical fallacies.
Why didn't you post the entire line?
"Twenty years after an Irishman couldn't get a f--king job, we had the presidency."
Guess who had the presidency two years later. :pimp:
Btw, your gimmick where hump the legs of all the conservative posters? Not a good look.
Speaking of presidents....
Who was it that said you have to give blacks a little bit, but not too much, to keep them voting Democrat for the next 200 years? :oldlol:
A whole race being played and they dont even know it.
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 04:44 PM
'Whites' have endured far worse historically - and whites are not a monolith - in the past hundred years the jews have suffered a holocaust, millions of Ukrainians starved to death, millions of Russians and Germans massacred by governments with which most had little to do, 100s of millions forced to live in a kind of servitude that really isn't all that different to slavery (being owned by the state rather than an individual).
This is all long after the abolishment of slavery, something, i might add, that was accomplished by Europeans, and would never have come to pass without (dread) white Europeans (gosh).
edit: and the horrors of slavery are greatly over exaggerated regardless. I'd rather be a Virginia slave of the 1820s than an Irish peasant/slave of the same time. The former is almost guaranteed a better standard of life. Life in pre-Civil war America was usually easier for the slave than for a free northern black (who were treated like shit abut had no one to provide for them either).
That moment when conservatives argue that blacks had it better than whites in the 1800s. Fckin' Kochbots. :coleman:
Nice list of whites committing atrocities on other whites btw. What was that supposed to prove again?
TripleA
11-19-2015, 04:45 PM
Honestly affirmative action in college is sorta stupid because the black people who need more help are not the middle class ones but the ones who live in shit neighborhoods with gang violence and failing highschools.
Dresta
11-19-2015, 04:47 PM
Lol, don't think I've ever felt hated or despised as a lower middle class white.
And SAT's are bullshit. People get "tie-breakers" on all sorts of horse shit they fill their applications with. I don't care if it's relatively close they give the nod to a minority. Just move on to another school. There are plenty that will take you and it won't affect you long term if you go to NC State instead of Duke/UNC. And you can always, just do better in school; all these schools are filled with white people anyway.
That's not what they do though. It is done to the extent that you get a load of average black students going to Universities that are too rigorous for them (though this amazes me), hence the high drop out rates in such cases.
These schools are yes, filled with plenty of white and black people who don't belong there, but that's not what this is about. To generalise your admittance policy around the basis of race is, quite frankly, racist. The typical collectivist thinking that can only be called bigoted, and which ignores that people are individuals, and that your generalisation will result in injustices like a rich black kid getting a place at Yale over the poor white one. This is injustice, and it is persecution, whether you want to admit it or not. University selections should be based on academic merit and nought else.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:48 PM
That moment when conservatives argue that blacks had it better than whites in the 1800s. Fckin' Kochbots. :coleman:
Nice list of whites committing atrocities on other whites btw. What was that supposed to prove again?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/10/slavery-per-capita-map-wo-arrows.jpg
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 04:52 PM
Took em long enough (3 or 4 decades)
Needed all the liberal support they could get
The Irish had long since assimilated by the time Kennedy became president, to the point where his ethnic background was barely an issue. He was viewed as Massachusetts liberal elite above all else.
Considering that the Civil Rights Act passed only 44 years earlier, Obama's ascendancy was much quicker, and pretty remarkable.
I like your rationale though, it's typical of teabagger:
White man gets into the White House = He earned it
Black man gets into the White House = White guilt got him in. Or affirmative action. Or something.
:coleman:
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 04:54 PM
The Irish had long since assimilated by the time Kennedy became president, to the point where his ethnic background was barely an issue. He was viewed as Massachusetts liberal elite above all else.
Considering that the Civil Rights Act passed only 44 years earlier, Obama's ascendancy was much quicker, and pretty remarkable.
I like your rationale though, it's typical of teabagger:
White man gets into the White House = He earned it
Black man gets into the White House = White guilt got him in. Or affirmative action. Or something.
:coleman:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/10/slavery-per-capita-map-wo-arrows.jpg
DeuceWallaces
11-19-2015, 04:55 PM
That's not what they do though. It is done to the extent that you get a load of average black students going to Universities that are too rigorous for them (though this amazes me), hence the high drop out rates in such cases.
These schools are yes, filled with plenty of white and black people who don't belong there, but that's not what this is about. To generalise your admittance policy around the basis of race is, quite frankly, racist. The typical collectivist thinking that can only be called bigoted, and which ignores that people are individuals, and that your generalisation will result in injustices like a rich black kid getting a place at Yale over the poor white one. This is injustice, and it is persecution, whether you want to admit it or not. University selections should be based on academic merit and nought else.
I don't agree with any of that. There are not loads of black people who can't handle the rigors any more so than the loads of white people who can't do the same, and I definitely don't believe it's a direct result of AA.
Furthermore, no one is generalizing their policy around race. Even Umich, which was one of the pioneers and had the biggest AA boost. It's just one more thing. It's the same as looking at two roughly similar applicants and one plays the piano, or was on the football team, or did lots of volunteer work. It's just another category on an application by which to diversify the student population by either race, hobbies, or interests.
Dresta
11-19-2015, 04:55 PM
That moment when conservatives argue that blacks had it better than whites in the 1800s. Fckin' Kochbots. :coleman:
Nice list of whites committing atrocities on other whites btw. What was that supposed to prove again?
Again, you've construed whites as being a monolith (that is: you're being racist).
If a Russian tortures and kills an American child it doesn't become any less of a crime because the child's murderer shared his skin-tone. Could you say anything more bigoted and idiotic than that?
You've also demonstrated an inability to read even the simplest things. I said nothing about blacks having it better than whites in the 1800s you thick piece of shit - the way i think proscribes me from making such idiotically vague generalisations in the first place.
There are just not words to properly express quite how ****ing dense you really are. I don't even think James Joyce could describe it: it needs to be seen to be believe, it's really that bad.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 04:56 PM
The Irish had long since assimilated by the time Kennedy became president, to the point where his ethnic background was barely an issue. He was viewed as Massachusetts liberal elite above all else.
Considering that the Civil Rights Act passed only 44 years earlier, Obama's ascendancy was much quicker, and pretty remarkable.
I like your rationale though, it's typical of teabagger:
White man gets into the White House = He earned it
Black man gets into the White House = White guilt got him in. Or affirmative action. Or something.
:coleman:
Where did I say that
20 years v 44 years
That was my point
Different era
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 04:57 PM
Nice graph, but that doesn't compare to 1860's America, where 89% of blacks were enslaved. That's 13% of the population.
Of course, Dresta thinks the white man had it worse. :lol
And I thought "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery" was painfully bad revisionist history :lol . Even Rush Limbaugh would side-eye Dresta's comment.
pastis
11-19-2015, 04:57 PM
Its not like african countries or muslim/arabic countries are getting more "white". its the opposite. european countries and usa/canada are getting more and more mixed. it is what it is. you cant do anything against it. wealth and the hope of a bright future will bring the immigration problem to a next level in the decade to come.
but i can understand those people. if you have nothing, really nothing and then you hear and see how the life is in europe/usa.....yea i would try to reach europe/usa as well for me and my family.
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 05:02 PM
The Irish had long since assimilated by the time Kennedy became president, to the point where his ethnic background was barely an issue. He was viewed as Massachusetts liberal elite above all else.
Considering that the Civil Rights Act passed only 44 years earlier, Obama's ascendancy was much quicker, and pretty remarkable.
I like your rationale though, it's typical of teabagger:
White man gets into the White House = He earned it
Black man gets into the White House = White guilt got him in. Or affirmative action. Or something.
:coleman:
Neither white guilt nor affirmative action put Obama in the White House. Money did. Obama's 2012 presidential campaign spent more money than any political campaign is history. #2 is his 2008 campaign.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 05:04 PM
Nice graph, but that doesn't compare to 1860's America, where 89% of blacks were enslaved. That's 13% of the population.
How did those black people get to America? Who traded the slaves to American slavers?:confusedshrug:
Bonus question: Who reintroduced Europeans to the idea of selling and trading slaves after nearly 900 years of slavery being banned in Christian Europe?
Your America-centric views disturb me. I am worried why you seem to only care about black slaves in America, and are happy to ignore black slaves in Africa and Arab and white slaves in the middle east, and South Asian slaves in India.
The United States fought a Civil War to end slavery in 1860. 620,000 primarily white Americans gave their lives and died in the fight to end slavery.
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 05:05 PM
Where did I say that
20 years v 44 years
That was my point
Different era
20 years? Irishmen were eligible loooong before that. Hell, Kennedy's father teased a run in the 1940s. He started the Kennedy political dynasty.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 05:06 PM
20 years? Irishmen were eligible loooong before that. Hell, Kennedy's father teased a run in the 1940s. He started the Kennedy political dynasty.
It was a reference to the comment you made about the movie quote bro
Nanners
11-19-2015, 05:08 PM
affirmative action is crap and it needs to go.
for some reason, most liberals tend to completely ignore the fact that the group of people hurt the most by affirmative action are in fact a minority group - asian americans. asian americans need to score significantly higher than white americans, and massively higher than black americans, to get into equivalent schools. how is that fair?
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 05:15 PM
Neither white guilt nor affirmative action put Obama in the White House. Money did. Obama's 2012 presidential campaign spent more money than any political campaign is history. #2 is his 2008 campaign.
Obama got in because the American people preferred him to McCain and Romney. Would you like some water to wash that bitter pill down?
I'm sure Romney's spending puts him in the top 3 alltime--let's not pretend he was David going up against Obama's Goliath. The 2012 Election was the most expensive in history.
GIF REACTION
11-19-2015, 05:17 PM
Obama got in because the American people preferred him to McCain and Romney. Would you like some water to wash that bitter pill down?
I'm sure Romney's spending puts him in the top 3 alltime--let's not pretend he was David going up against Obama's Goliath. The 2012 Election was the most expensive in history.
If you ain't first you're last.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 05:19 PM
Obama got in because the American people preferred him to McCain and Romney. Would you like some water to wash that bitter pill down?
I'm sure Romney's spending puts him in the top 3 alltime--let's not pretend he was David going up against Obama's Goliath. The 2012 Election was the most expensive in history.
How did black people first get to America? Who traded the slaves to American slavers?
Bonus question: Who reintroduced Europeans to the idea of selling and trading slaves after nearly 900 years of slavery being banned in Christian Europe?
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 05:19 PM
Obama got in because the American people preferred him to McCain and Romney. Would you like some water to wash that bitter pill down?
I'm sure Romney's spending puts him in the top 3 alltime--let's not pretend he was David going up against Obama's Goliath. The 2012 Election was the most expensive in history.
Well, they preferred the person he pretended to be.
ALBballer
11-19-2015, 05:21 PM
Its not like african countries or muslim/arabic countries are getting more "white". its the opposite. european countries and usa/canada are getting more and more mixed. it is what it is. you cant do anything against it. wealth and the hope of a bright future will bring the immigration problem to a next level in the decade to come.
but i can understand those people. if you have nothing, really nothing and then you hear and see how the life is in europe/usa.....yea i would try to reach europe/usa as well for me and my family.
Bc the far left are loonies. I never hear them complain about Japan being too Japanese or Nigeria being too Nigerian. In fact most of them accept that these countries aren't multicultural and use some bs term like cultural appropriation if anyone tries to make the point that other countries should be "multicultural."
ALBballer
11-19-2015, 05:28 PM
Let's be honest Obama was a better choice than Romney and McCain, and after 8 years of Bush I think any of the democratic choices would of won.
dude77
11-19-2015, 05:29 PM
60 mil+ people voted against obama in 12 and close to that in 08 .. mccain really didn't have a chance .. romney had a shot though but couldn't pull it off .. he was still a weak challenger in the end ..
people were looking for a reason to vote obama out .. obama and romney were very close near election day .. but in the end, romney wasn't enough for them to turn on obama, so they stayed where they were ..
saying americans preferred obama is a bit of a stretch .. a shitload did not prefer him .. obama won because of 3 things .. he gives a good speech, charismatic .. that'll take you a long way .. the money .. and that white cuck liberal vote
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 05:37 PM
Let's be honest Obama was a better choice than Romney and McCain, and after 8 years of Bush I think any of the democratic choices would of won.
Better than McCain? Probably. Better than Romney? Hell no.
ThePhantomCreep
11-19-2015, 06:01 PM
Better than McCain? Probably. Better than Romney? Hell no.
Yeah, Romney promised of 6% unemployment by the end of 2016. I can see how that would be much better than the 5% we're currently at. :roll:
Don't forget the massive tax cut (predictably, for the wealthy) Romney was advocating. It's apparent that debt only matters when a Democrat is in the White House.
Romney = typical Republican disaster.
CavaliersFTW
11-19-2015, 06:01 PM
Yo Don....why you be stirring whitey's pot?...if they don't start calming down we gonna have to bust out the fire hoses on they azz'ez
It's been a rough year for whitey...let them vent...
1. The new Luke SkyWalker is Black....and is gonna be putting his Light Saber all up in Princess Leia's daughter ...
2. The Confederate Flag...America's last symbol of " White's only" got taken down
3. Apollo Creed actually is the real winner .... had the better son.
4.A strong symbol of white Masculinity ..... turned into Caitlyn Jenner....and all his daughters want BBC
5. Jimmer can't get no playing time...
and quite frankly it's only gonna get worse.....next generation whiteys gonna have it way tougher....
pulled over while driving white.....the Black man won't hire whites ....No affordable Housing in the suburbs....when Mexicans commit a crime it's a mental disorder....but If a white man commits a crime it's because they are all savage Thugs!
Damn!...thank GOD I'm Brown!...:cheers:
:oldlol:
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 06:06 PM
Rocky>Creed though, and also Rockey>Creed's son in all likelihood.
Creed Sr. got his ass kicked so hard by Ivan Drago that he died.
Meanwhile Rocky beat Ivan Drago in his home country and even got the Russians to cheer him on vs the hometown boy.
Creed Jr., well maybe he beats someone better than Apollo Creed, Clubber Lang and Ivan Drago in his latest movie, but who knows.
It is far too early to tell if Creed Jr. is any better than Rocky.
CavaliersFTW
11-19-2015, 06:12 PM
I have family 8mm film of Labor Day weekend party in 1969. My dad and his many older brothers (my dad is old, was 24 that year and his six brothers were up to their late 30's)
The men talk, look and laugh like they are honorable kings on top of the world, the women look like a bunch of Jackie Kennedy's sitting poolside (complete with in ground pool with towel house, diving board, and tall water slide) babysitting the kids while the men drink, and talk with supreme confidence and the odd belly laugh while discussing how to solve the worlds problems. Property owned as far as the eye can see.
It really does look like a cliche "when white people were the greatest" time :lol
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 06:15 PM
I have family 8mm film of Labor Day weekend party in 1969. My dad and his many older brothers (my dad is old, was 24 that year and his six brothers were up to their late 30's)
The men talk, look and laugh like they are honorable kings on top of the world, the women look like a bunch of Jackie Kennedy's sitting poolside babysitting the kids while the men drink, talk with supreme confidence and belly laugh while discussing how to solve the worlds problems.
It really does look like a cliche "when white people were the greatest" time :lol
It is better now because it is culturally acceptable for us whitefolk to date hotties of all races, not just other white girls.
Remember, in 1969, personal film cameras were a big deal and hardly anyone had them. When people made movies, they made sure it was worth making, and only wanted to capture the very best moments-similar to how people use their facebook photos to try to make their lives look as awesome as possible.
CavaliersFTW
11-19-2015, 06:17 PM
It is better now because it is socially acceptable for us whitefolk to date hotties of all races, not just other white girls.
Hey I don't disagree with that :cheers:
I only described a scene that I'm guessing OP was thinking of :lol
NumberSix
11-19-2015, 06:19 PM
It is better now because it is culturally acceptable for us whitefolk to date hotties of all races, not just other white girls.
When was that not acceptable?
CavaliersFTW
11-19-2015, 06:21 PM
When was that not acceptable?
In many families it still isn't acceptable.
I know some first hand that feel that way.
Nick Young
11-19-2015, 06:34 PM
When was that not acceptable?
I'd estimate 50-100 years ago and beyond
Dresta
11-19-2015, 06:35 PM
Nice graph, but that doesn't compare to 1860's America, where 89% of blacks were enslaved. That's 13% of the population.
Of course, Dresta thinks the white man had it worse. :lol
And I thought "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery" was painfully bad revisionist history :lol . Even Rush Limbaugh would side-eye Dresta's comment.
Your problem (one among many) is that you seem to be arguing against a bunch of things you've only imagined me to have said. It's like you can't come up with a cogent response to the points i've actually made, so you instead made up some ridiculous ones of your own, convinced yourself that i said them, and then patted yourself on the back for knocking down these fictitious arguments.
Bravo :applause:
You're actually brain dead you are.
AceManIII
11-19-2015, 06:47 PM
I've never really understood the term 'white' much to begin with, and the way you somehow become non-white by having a mere drop of 'black' blood in you - that, to me, seems like an incredibly racist way of viewing the world. Like blackness is some kind of disease: once you go black your posterity becomes eternally black!
Never understood it either; who came up with this "mere drop stipulation."
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