the happiest guy in the world watching luke walton run the table 82-0

[kennethgriffin]

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but its all about steve kerr right guys?

[warriorfan]

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

The scapegoat has been vindicated.

[Naero]

Not trying to downplay Luke Walton's coaching, as no one can sail the ship to a 13-0 start

[LikeMike]

OR this just shows how bad Jackson was. Anybody can win with this team except him.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

It's probably Bill. When you listen to him talk about his son, you know some incest happened. Beyond creepy.

[kennethgriffin]

[QUOTE=Naero]Not trying to downplay Luke Walton's coaching, as no one can sail the ship to a 13-0 start

[kennethgriffin]

OR this just shows how bad Jackson was. Anybody can win with this team except him.


teams dont start out as champions. it was a new squad that needed time and the owners didnt wanna give mark jackson enough time for curry to become what he is right now

[Hey Yo]

OR this just shows how bad Jackson was. Anybody can win with this team except him.
Naaaaaa.....Jackson doesn't get enough credit for what he did as these players grew.

I may have missed it, but didn't hear or read one GSW player acknowledge Jackson after winning last years title.

if so....that's lame.

[RoseCity07]

This fraud wanted credit for being some great coach knowing this team was elite. He's just mad he can't take credit for something that was great without him.

[kennethgriffin]

This fraud wanted credit for being some great coach knowing this team was elite. He's just mad he can't take credit for something that was great without him.


are you talking about kerr or jackson

[Akrazotile]

its not steve kerrs fingerprints though

head coaches are just vocal leaders. the x's and o's, research, adjustments, game plans, statistical analysis and other forms of complex coaching are done by assistants

walton, kerr, jackson = "oh guys keep it up! play hard! here we go! pass the ball! get open! tough it out! hustle back!"

thats all it is... thats all it ever is

phil wasnt phil without tex winter running the offense and guys like brian shaw keeping track of everything while kareem worked with gasol and bynum during practice..

coaching is a team game.. never about 1 guy.


the 1 guy is a scapegoat and guy to point a finger at. after theyre fired the team tries harder to show it wasnt them

If you listened to Steve Kerr at TNT and Mark Jackson at ESPN, it was clear that Kerr actually understands and can articulate technical things about the game. He probably knows how to balance lineups better, draw-up game plans, bring new ideas to his players attention etc. All Mark Jack says during broadcasts is "hands down mans down" and "mama there goes that man" and "they need to do a better. job. of gettin to the basketball."

Teams are GENERALLY what they are, regardless of the coach. A bad team is gonna be bad regardless. A good team is gonna be good regardless. But a coach can make the difference between bad or REALLY bad, good or REALLY good, etc.

It's pretty clear that Kerr knows what he's doing as a coach. It's pretty clear that Jackson wasn't all that sure.

[kennethgriffin]

If you listened to Steve Kerr at TNT and Mark Jackson at ESPN, it was clear that Kerr actually understands and can articulate technical things about the game. He probably knows how to balance lineups better, draw-up game plans, bring new ideas to his players attention etc. All Mark Jack says during broadcasts is "hands down mans down" and "mama there goes that man" and "they need to do a better. job. of gettin to the basketball."

Teams are GENERALLY what they are, regardless of the coach. A bad team is gonna be bad regardless. A good team is gonna be good regardless. But a coach can make the difference between bad or REALLY bad, good or REALLY good, etc.

It's pretty clear that Kerr knows what he's doing as a coach. It's pretty clear that Jackson wasn't all that sure.


kerrs smarter than jackson i'l admit that

but stan vangundy is smarter than doc rivers. and only one of them has an nba championship to their name


allot of the time its just the players. and the coach is just along for the ride while the assistants do most of the work

this seems like one of those situations

[Akrazotile]

kerrs smarter than jackson i'l admit that

but stan vangundy is smarter than doc rivers. and only one of them has an nba championship to their name


allot of the time its just the players. and the coach is just along for the ride while the assistants do most of the work

this seems like one of those situations


I agree. A lot of coaches look better than they are because of circumstance and vice versa.

I still think Kerr is a very good coach. Last year his adjustments in the playoffs were all money. And it's not a given that any coach would have made them, because every year we see lots of bitching about coaches who can't adjust in the playoffs.

Obviously the Warriors have a great roster and that's the BIGGEST factor in their success. But I also think Kerr's impact is above that of a replacement level coach.

[ISHGoat]

its not steve kerrs fingerprints though

head coaches are just vocal leaders. the x's and o's, research, adjustments, game plans, statistical analysis and other forms of complex coaching are done by assistants

walton, kerr, jackson = "oh guys keep it up! play hard! here we go! pass the ball! get open! tough it out! hustle back!"

thats all it is... thats all it ever is

phil wasnt phil without tex winter running the offense and guys like brian shaw keeping track of everything while kareem worked with gasol and bynum during practice..

coaching is a team game.. never about 1 guy.


the 1 guy is a scapegoat and guy to point a finger at. after theyre fired the team tries harder to show it wasnt them

That is pretty much what all leaders do... Does a CEO crunch numbers in excel every day? A coach provides direction and decision making with data from his assistants and analysts.

[RoseCity07]

are you talking about kerr or jackson

Honestly a monkey could coach this team to these wins. You realize Luke Walton is the coach? He's not a genius. Just like how Spolstra wasn't winning in Miami when Lebron left.

[LikeMike]

Naaaaaa.....Jackson doesn't get enough credit for what he did as these players grew.

I may have missed it, but didn't hear or read one GSW player acknowledge Jackson after winning last years title.

if so....that's lame.

Maybe because the people on the inside knew that they couldn't have done it with him. :confusedshrug:

[LikeMike]

If you listened to Steve Kerr at TNT and Mark Jackson at ESPN, it was clear that Kerr actually understands and can articulate technical things about the game. He probably knows how to balance lineups better, draw-up game plans, bring new ideas to his players attention etc. All Mark Jack says during broadcasts is "hands down mans down" and "mama there goes that man" and "they need to do a better. job. of gettin to the basketball."

Teams are GENERALLY what they are, regardless of the coach. A bad team is gonna be bad regardless. A good team is gonna be good regardless. But a coach can make the difference between bad or REALLY bad, good or REALLY good, etc.

It's pretty clear that Kerr knows what he's doing as a coach. It's pretty clear that Jackson wasn't all that sure.

:applause:

[dhsilv]

That is pretty much what all leaders do... Does a CEO crunch numbers in excel every day? A coach provides direction and decision making with data from his assistants and analysts.

Just to add to this. Who hired the assistants? Who took which advice from which one?

Being the leader doesn't mean you micro manage everything.

[tmacattack33]

its not steve kerrs fingerprints though

head coaches are just vocal leaders. the x's and o's, research, adjustments, game plans, statistical analysis and other forms of complex coaching are done by assistants

walton, kerr, jackson = "oh guys keep it up! play hard! here we go! pass the ball! get open! tough it out! hustle back!"

thats all it is... thats all it ever is

phil wasnt phil without tex winter running the offense and guys like brian shaw keeping track of everything while kareem worked with gasol and bynum during practice..

coaching is a team game.. never about 1 guy.


the 1 guy is a scapegoat and guy to point a finger at. after theyre fired the team tries harder to show it wasnt them

Solid post.

I mean there are like 7 assistant coaches on every bench. Do people really think that every idea is made by only the head coach, and that these 7 assistants (most of whom were ex-college head coaches or even ex-nba coaches) are just sitting there for no reason?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yeah but Mark J would bust Kerrs ass in one on one

[DMAVS41]

LOL...nope.

It actually makes Mark Jackson look way worse. It basically means the team coaches itself and all the head coach has to do is not **** it up.

[Springsteen]

Pretty sure in an interview before a game Walton was saying how the team is following Kerr's gameplan by the books. It makes Jackson look worse, if anything.

[kennethgriffin]

LOL...nope.

It actually makes Mark Jackson look way worse. It basically means the team coaches itself and all the head coach has to do is not **** it up.


thats like saying all del harris had to do was not **** it up

or all doug collins had to do was not **** it up


sorry but players/teams arent automatically great from day 1

curry now is 10 times better than he was 3 years ago


shaq and kobe were way better by the time phil got there. especially by 2001 when kobe came into the top 3 and arguably the best in the league

jordan and pippen werent as good in the 80s as they were in the 90s

get it?

[Heavincent]

Doesn't it make Mark Jackson look even worse?

[HenryGarfunkle]

OP makes no sense as usual.

Why the **** would he be happy watching his former team chase the Bulls record after coming off a championship? Oh because its not kerr herp derp! :facepalm

Your logic is always the worst. Always completely backwards

[Akrazotile]

thats like saying all del harris had to do was not **** it up

or all doug collins had to do was not **** it up


sorry but players/teams arent automatically great from day 1

curry now is 10 times better than he was 3 years ago


shaq and kobe were way better by the time phil got there. especially by 2001 when kobe came into the top 3 and arguably the best in the league

jordan and pippen werent as good in the 80s as they were in the 90s

get it?


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[kennethgriffin]

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well he had the most winshares in the post season ( isnt that what you guys value? ) during the all time greatest run in nba history 15-1 averaging 30/7/6... having games of near 50/20 vs sanantonio.. averaging 35ppg in the most important series

so...

[Straight_Ballin]

If you listened to Steve Kerr at TNT and Mark Jackson at ESPN, it was clear that Kerr actually understands and can articulate technical things about the game. He probably knows how to balance lineups better, draw-up game plans, bring new ideas to his players attention etc. All Mark Jack says during broadcasts is "hands down mans down" and "mama there goes that man" and "they need to do a better. job. of gettin to the basketball."

Teams are GENERALLY what they are, regardless of the coach. A bad team is gonna be bad regardless. A good team is gonna be good regardless. But a coach can make the difference between bad or REALLY bad, good or REALLY good, etc.

It's pretty clear that Kerr knows what he's doing as a coach. It's pretty clear that Jackson wasn't all that sure.

It's also pretty clear that the guy who has the highest 3 pt FG% of all time coached a guy that will soon have the highest 3pt FG% of all time.

[Heavincent]

Kerr has implanted a system and culture that is so great he doesn't even have to be there for it to work. That's how profound his messages are.

Dude is a ****ing genius. And he's still running shit behind the scenes.

I get serious Phil Jackson/Pop vibes from him.

[kennethgriffin]

Kerr has implanted a system and culture that is so great he doesn't even have to be there for it to work. That's how profound his messages are.

Dude is a ****ing genius. And he's still running shit behind the scenes.

I get serious Phil Jackson/Pop vibes from him.


well then just buy out kerr and pay walton in cheese sandwiches to coach from now on.. and if he wont accept that offer .... i'l take it

[Heavincent]

well then just buy out kerr and pay walton in cheese sandwiches to coach from now on.. and if he wont accept that offer .... i'l take it

Kerr is still around though. If you completely remove him, the system may become infected.

Also, his adjustments and rotations are invaluable. Walton is just pulling a bunch of pages out of his book, if not taking direct orders from the man himself.

"Use the force, Luke"

[kennethgriffin]

Kerr is still around though. If you completely remove him, the system may become infected.

Also, his adjustments and rotations are invaluable. Walton is just pulling a bunch of pages out of his book, if not taking direct orders from the man himself.


keep kerr on as a consultant and pay him exactly 1 dollar more than whatever he made with tnt

[ShaqTwizzle]

No offense to the man but Jackson was a very bad coach.

[bdreason]

It's all about Steve Kerr bringing in great coaches, and getting out of the way... something Jackson and his ego didn't do. Who hired Luke Walton again?

[Legends66NBA7]

Kerr has implanted a system and culture that is so great he doesn't even have to be there for it to work. That's how profound his messages are.

Dude is a ****ing genius. And he's still running shit behind the scenes.

I get serious Phil Jackson/Pop vibes from him.

Helps he was coached by them too.

[ralph_i_el]

Kenny:facepalm this just shows how bad Jackson really was. Luke Walton is this much better than him:applause:

[oarabbus]

If you listened to Steve Kerr at TNT and Mark Jackson at ESPN, it was clear that Kerr actually understands and can articulate technical things about the game. He probably knows how to balance lineups better, draw-up game plans, bring new ideas to his players attention etc. All Mark Jack says during broadcasts is "hands down mans down" and "mama there goes that man" and "they need to do a better. job. of gettin to the basketball."

Teams are GENERALLY what they are, regardless of the coach. A bad team is gonna be bad regardless. A good team is gonna be good regardless. But a coach can make the difference between bad or REALLY bad, good or REALLY good, etc.

It's pretty clear that Kerr knows what he's doing as a coach. It's pretty clear that Jackson wasn't all that sure.

Good post.

[T_L_P]

Naaaaaa.....Jackson doesn't get enough credit for what he did as these players grew.

I may have missed it, but didn't hear or read one GSW player acknowledge Jackson after winning last years title.

if so....that's lame.

Kerr mentioned a lot of times that he didn't really have to change the defense, because Jackson did such a good job with it.

His offense was horrible though. They were a middle of the pack offense with Jackson and they became a great offense with Kerr.

Jackson's offense was all Iso. Barnes was getting a ton of Isos in Jackson's system which isn't his style. He also didn't have a playmaker in the 2nd unit (Iggy is that under Kerr) and opted to have Klay or Barnes as the primary playmakers (dumb). He also didn't realise Draymond's full potential and he clashed with the team's best defensive player (Bogut).

Needless to say, Jackson was part of the reason why the Dubs weren't great. He's not the worst coach out there but he's not really good either.

[Bosnian Sajo]

kerrs smarter than jackson i'l admit that

but stan vangundy is smarter than doc rivers. and only one of them has an nba championship to their name


allot of the time its just the players. and the coach is just along for the ride while the assistants do most of the work

this seems like one of those situations

Stan was curved by Pat Riley, he did him dirty. He should have a title.