It's fun to hype up Porzingis, but he isn't that good...

[stalkerforlife]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.

[TaLvsCuaL]

You have a point, He has portential and is a solid contributor already but He become a meme after all

[Draz]

He had one bad game

[warriorfan]

he is gonna need a year or two and then he will be legit

[LikeMike]

If you were a big dick alpha, you'd understand.

[TripleA]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.

Took the bottom feeder Knicks and made them .500 goat impact.

[juju151111]

He showing potential and rookies are not always consistent.

[stalkerforlife]

He had one bad game

:biggums:

[FKAri]

The hype is hyperbole and he had a poor night but OP is fkcin retarded :lol

[Akrazotile]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.


He's shown awesome flashes and potential.

So he hasn't been consistently and completely dominant throughout his first dozen NBA games, and because of this his hype is confusing to you?

COME ON man. Youre BETTER than that. :crazysam::crazysam::crazysam:

[stalkerforlife]

He's shown awesome flashes and potential.

So he hasn't been consistently and completely dominant throughout his first dozen NBA games, and because of this his hype is confusing to you?

COME ON man. Youre BETTER than that. :crazysam::crazysam::crazysam:

My bad.

Not including tonight, he is averaging 13 and 8 and a block a game.

Not too bad for such a youngster.

[Euroleague]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.

You are right, he's not good. However, I do think that he has enormous talent.

He's not a good player at all right now, and anyone saying he is automatically proves they have zero basketball knowledge.

However, his talent is tremendous, and I would have taken him #1 in the draft. That being said, he's been hugely overrated ever since Draftexpress started their go to NBA hype gimmick marketing shtick nonsense (that most people outside of USA have been laughing at for years because it is so ridiculous) on him last year.

It's all manufactured by sports and marketing agencies and ESPN and the NBA play along. It's all the same typical bullshit hype and marketing.

He's a great talent, he should have been drafted #1 (but was not because the racist NBA won't draft a Nordic guy #1), and at the same time, he's enormously overrated, over hyped, and getting all this Jeremy Lin, Ricky Rubio, Nikola Mirotic, etc. type of endless bullshit nonsense from the morons in US sports media that just repeat like parrots whatever sports marketing agencies and NBA profiteers tell them.

[ISHGoat]

You are right, he's not good. However, I do think that he has enormous talent.

He's not a good player at all right now, and anyone saying he is automatically proves they have zero basketball knowledge.

However, his talent is tremendous, and I would have taken him #1 in the draft. That being said, he's been hugely overrated ever since Draftexpress started their go to NBA hype gimmick marketing shtick nonsense (that most people outside of USA have been laughing at for years because it is so ridiculous) on him last year.

It's all manufactured by sports and marketing agencies and ESPN and the NBA play along. It's all the same typical bullshit hype and marketing.

He's a great talent, he should have been drafted #1 (but was not because the racist NBA won't draft a Nordic guy #1), and at the same time, he's enormously overrated, over hyped, and getting all this Jeremy Lin, Ricky Rubio, Nikola Mirotic, etc. type of endless bullshit nonsense from the morons in US sports media that just repeat like parrots whatever sports marketing agencies and NBA profiteers tell them.


wtf?

He is putting up 13/9/1/1/1 with only 1.6 turnovers in 25 mpg.

His shooting may be poor at 43.9 eFG% but he is solid all around and that is reflected in his 17.9 PER.

[Euroleague]

The hype is hyperbole and he had a poor night but OP is fkcin retarded :lol

No it isn't. It's the nutcases of the media (like ESPN) and marketing world (the sports agents), along with the corporate psychopaths (like NBA and their sponsor partners) that are as always making up shit that is not true, and making morons (NBA only fans) believe it.

It's actually called this ---> brainwashing.

[Akrazotile]

The biggest thing is you can tell he has the right attitude to maximize his talents.

He might not necessarily ever be a guy who drops huge numbers on a regular basis (although maybe he will, who knows).

But just the overall matchup nightmare he presents will make him HUGELY valuable to any team. He might not be a guy that's gonna carry a bad team. But add him to a solid team, and he could easily be a championship caliber difference maker eventually.

[Euroleague]

He's shown awesome flashes and potential.

So he hasn't been consistently and completely dominant throughout his first dozen NBA games, and because of this his hype is confusing to you?

COME ON man. Youre BETTER than that. :crazysam::crazysam::crazysam:

Porzingis is a great talent. He's not a very good basketball player at this time however. I would rate him as not even a top 100 player in Europe just a few months ago.

That being said, his talent and potential is real, and he would have been the #1 NBA pick if he was from USA and black. The racism and xenophobia is the major controlling factor in the NBA.

It does not surprise me that Jackson was the one to draft him, because he thinks for himself, instead of just blindly following NBA rules and mantras ("never draft a white guy").............

[SaltyMeatballs]

He's barely 20 ****ing years old :roll:

[Euroleague]

wtf?

He is putting up 13/9/1/1/1 with only 1.6 turnovers in 25 mpg.

His shooting may be poor at 43.9 eFG% but he is solid all around and that is reflected in his 17.9 PER.

Anyone with even basic rudimentary understanding of basketball fundamentals can see he's barely even an average player right now, under best case scenario.

He can play in the Knicks..........the Knicks are an abomination against basketball. That is how bad they are. That is how bad most lower level NBA teams are.

He's not good enough to make the rotation in a good Euroleague team.

He's a young talent playing in a joke team, that competes in an almost fake and choreographed WWE style of a flying circus of a league.

Again though, he undeniably has great talent and potential, and should have been the #1 pick of the draft. If he was a black kid from USA (like Towns) they would have drafted him #1 without hesitation. They did not, because the NBA is so clearly blatantly racist to anyone that is not retarded.

[FKAri]

Well, for one, he's already better than Vaseline SpansAnus EVER WAS

[DoctorP]

He's better than Garnett at 19 so far...

[masonanddixon]

He's easily the best rookie this season and he's playing in the biggest market coming from a third world hellhole in Europe. I'd say he's doing pretty well.

[DCL]

he's way more advanced than dirk and garnett at same stage.

those other guys eventually became mvp's btw.

[bdreason]

He's a rookie. He's from another Country. I'd give it 3 years before we know how good he can be.

[MellowYellow]

Anyone who watches knicks games knows that he makes a big impact on almost every game regardless of the #'s he puts up.

[BoutPractice]

He's easily the best rookie this season and he's playing in the biggest market coming from a third world hellhole in Europe. I'd say he's doing pretty well.

Easily?

Here are KAT's stats through 13 games:
16 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.5 bpg on 52 FG% and 90 FT%.

Per 36 he averages 20, 13 and 3.

Same PER as rookie Duncan despite spending only 1 year in college to Duncan's 3.

It's pretty obvious who the best rookie is so far - numbers like those give a clear indication KAT could eventually become a superstar center. Watch him play and you become even more convinced (notice for example the great passing, which isn't translating into assist numbers yet but is very real)

I really like Porzingis' potential as well as his will to prove his doubters wrong. But so far he's "only" a top 3 rookie who's shown flashes of brilliance. If his jumper becomes more consistent and he manages to stay healthy, he could become a star... he's just not there yet.

[SexSymbol]

Porzingis is a great talent. He's not a very good basketball player at this time however. I would rate him as not even a top 100 player in Europe just a few months ago.

That being said, his talent and potential is real, and he would have been the #1 NBA pick if he was from USA and black. The racism and xenophobia is the major controlling factor in the NBA.

It does not surprise me that Jackson was the one to draft him, because he thinks for himself, instead of just blindly following NBA rules and mantras ("never draft a white guy").............
Yeah, but your opinion doesn't mean jack shit, and is usually wrong

[Smoke117]

I'm a pacifist and even I want to beat you death.

[pastis]

stalker4life, 13 games have been played so far. and its his first nba season. and you wanna make already a def. statement? he showed extremly high potential and will have a better rookie year than all time greats like kobe, kg or dirk.

you will see his full potential in 3 years.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

stalker4life, 13 games have been played so far. and its his first nba season. and you wanna make already a def. statement? he showed extremly high potential and will have a better rookie year than all time greats like kobe, kg or dirk.

you will see his full potential in 3 years.

This. Kristaps is repping the Easter Euro Swagger. He will find his comfort zone more and more as the season progresses.

[Jameerthefear]

He's shown the flashes. Rookies aren't going to be consistent yet. Him, Towns, and Okafor are going to be cream of the crop bigmen. This is going to be a really good draft.

[kurple]

Wouldn't trade Nikola Jokic for him.. Scored 23/12 against the Spurs the other night

[dhsilv]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.

Well he's playing better than most of us expected and many thought he had super star talent, but just not right away. He's progressing fast. Thus people are excited to see it.

[Real14]

Stfu Euroleague:coleman:

[Tking714]

Anyone who watches knicks games knows that he makes a big impact on almost every game regardless of the #'s he puts up.

This. He makes very few errors and is in the right spots making the right moves most of the time. Already better than players like Shumpert or JR smith ever were

[Hey Yo]

Anyone with even basic rudimentary understanding of basketball fundamentals can see he's barely even an average player right now, under best case scenario.

He can play in the Knicks..........the Knicks are an abomination against basketball. That is how bad they are. That is how bad most lower level NBA teams are.

He's not good enough to make the rotation in a good Euroleague team.

He's a young talent playing in a joke team, that competes in an almost fake and choreographed WWE style of a flying circus of a league.

Again though, he undeniably has great talent and potential, and should have been the #1 pick of the draft. If he was a black kid from USA (like Towns) they would have drafted him #1 without hesitation. They did not, because the NBA is so clearly blatantly racist to anyone that is not retarded.
So you think he'll just end up being a part of this stat?

None of the last 16 European players drafted in the lottery have gone on to make an All-Star team.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4094/son-of-weekend-dime-no-harm-in-catching-porzingis-fever

if the Euro leagues are much tougher, then why can't players from there able to dominate this so-called "soft NBA"

[imdaman99]

I am not ready to hail him as an upcoming superstar just yet... but I still love the kid. I'm all in :rockon:

[Sarcastic]

14/4/1, and 2 blocks on 6 for 8 shooting in the first half :applause:

[Milbuck]

He'd be the best player in Euroleague right now, that's for sure.

[Uncle Drew]

Wouldn't trade Nikola Jokic for him.. Scored 23/12 against the Spurs the other night
:roll:

Get out of here you homer. Disgusting.

[DMAVS41]

Yea...let's hate on a rookie that is blowing expectations out of the water...

Seems like a good idea

[Sarcastic]

Wouldn't trade Nikola Jokic for him.. Scored 23/12 against the Spurs the other night


How many blocks?

[sd3035]

Isn't there a sub forum for YMCA and rec league crap? please keep the euro trash league out of the NBA forum

[smoovegittar]

And like moths to the flame, all the scared haters flock in here.

You're all pathetic and weak. Recognize KP, bitches.:bowdown:

[Jameerthefear]

Geez. This guy is good. Really good. This draft man...

[Patrick Chewing]

OP's a fat idiot.

[bluechox2]

https://media.giphy.com/media/HYtibb510snRe/giphy.gif

[ShaqTwizzle]

https://media.giphy.com/media/HYtibb510snRe/giphy.gif

:lol :lol :lol
OP painfully ethered

[HighFlyer23]

If Kawhi Leonard is considered aa " superstar " in this weak, wack league then Porzingis definitely is on his way to superstardom

[stalkerforlife]

I'm an idiot.

[Donkey4trading]

he good

[theaussieguy]

OMG OP how embarrassing for you, like omg lmao

[dreamwarrior]

He's doing great for never touching a leather ball before this year, but shooting 40% as a C-F is pretty terrible

[AngelEyes]

He's doing great for never touching a leather ball before this year, but shooting 40% as a C-F is pretty terrible

He's shooting 42.7% and it's climbing. He's also only played 14 games, that's what you call a small sample size. Lots of guys come into the league and initially struggle with their shooting before making an adjustment.

[imdaman99]

He's doing great for never touching a leather ball before this year, but shooting 40% as a C-F is pretty terrible
I think he will improve on that % :roll: Do you?

[houston]

new york media overrate everything

[PistonsFan#21]

I want him to succeed. A lot of people do.

But quite honestly, the kid is not very good. Not a consistent shooter, can't take a bunch of contact and finish plays consistently, gun-shy, kind of soft, etc.

Maybe he will develop, but I don't get the hype.

"NBA brotherhood trying to keep the white man down though, they dont get any opportunities in this league"

See how stupid you sounded in that last thread of yours? First he gets drafted really high out of nowhere and now hes treated like the next superstar in NYC after only 14 games. next thing you know you gonna try to say that Porzingis isnt really white :facepalm

[fragokota]

Excellent timing OP

[AngelEyes]

"NBA brotherhood trying to keep the white man down though, they dont get any opportunities in this league"

See how stupid you sounded in that last thread of yours? First he gets drafted really high out of nowhere and now hes treated like the next superstar in NYC after only 14 games. next thing you know you gonna try to say that Porzingis isnt really white :facepalm

It's because he's playing his ass off, not because he's white. He's also showing a great variety of skills.

[PistonsFan#21]

It's because he's playing his ass off, not because he's white. He's also showing a great variety of skills.

This is my point exactly. The OP made a thread a few days ago saying the league is racist against white players and doesnt give them any opportunities to shine (using Jimmer Fredette as an example). If you got skills and play your ass off you gonna get playing time...no matter your skin color.

[FKAri]

This is my point exactly. The OP made a thread a few days ago saying the league is racist against white players and doesnt give them any opportunities to shine (using Jimmer Fredette as an example). If you got skills and play your ass off you gonna get playing time...no matter your skin color.

If a Chinese guy can be a superstar in the modern era so can a white guy. OP on crack.

[stalkerforlife]

This is my point exactly. The OP made a thread a few days ago saying the league is racist against white players and doesnt give them any opportunities to shine (using Jimmer Fredette as an example). If you got skills and play your ass off you gonna get playing time...no matter your skin color.

Do you also ride a unicorn?

Life must be so perfect and fair for you.

Congratulations.

[PistonsFan#21]

Do you also ride a unicorn?

Life must be so perfect and fair for you.

Congratulations.

Bro just take your loss and move on. What is your excuse for Porzingis being drafted this high, getting the opportunity to succeed, and now being treated like a superstar in NYC, as a white 19 year old kid?