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Naero
11-21-2015, 01:33 PM
With the Warriors on the cusp of a record-breaking 16-0 start--a mark that many foreseers speculatively see as the groundwork to breaking the cumulative 72-10 record notched by the '96 Bulls--more history may be concomitantly made. The leader of possibly the greatest team in NBA history--also the clear-cut BITW--may very well garner all first-place votes allotted for MVP-voting; that would make him the first unanimous MVP awardee in NBA history.

Can he and his team sustain this landmark level of play? If so, it's hard for me to see any other first-place votee, as Curry - the early-season frontrunner - has had an iron-clad on his standing, while the second-place nominees and onwards have been precarious. If even more than a few first-place votes are apportioned to others, it will be worse riggery (if that's even a word) than Game 6 of the 2002 WCF.

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 01:38 PM
If they break the Bulls record, then it really could happen. If they fall short, win in the high 60's, I'd be very surprised if he did. Not even 2000 Shaq got unanimous MVP voting

GIF REACTION
11-21-2015, 01:40 PM
Lebron was 1 vote off of it in 2013,

Some NY jerkoff gave it to Melo lmao

tmacattack33
11-21-2015, 01:44 PM
I'm not sure.

Here is a link to the MVP voting for each year:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2013.html

Just change the year by yourself in the address bar and you can see each years voting.

And there are one or two strange votes being made every year.

In the 2013 one shown above, Lebron had every vote except for one. That one vote was given to Carmelo Anthony :roll:

GIF REACTION
11-21-2015, 01:47 PM
I'm not sure.

Here is a link to the MVP voting for each year:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2013.html

Just change the year by yourself in the address bar and you can see each years voting.

And there are one or two strange votes being made every year.

In the 2013 one shown above, Lebron had every vote except for one. That one vote was given to Carmelo Anthony :roll:
Legendary year from Lebron

1 vote off unanimous MVP

2nd in DPOY

That's Jordan type shit

imdaman99
11-21-2015, 01:49 PM
Melo :rockon: He deserved it for having JR as his 2nd option and being the 2nd seed. I'd like to see Lebron play with someone like him as the 2nd option for an entire season, not for a small playoff run.

GIF REACTION
11-21-2015, 01:53 PM
Melo :rockon: He deserved it for having JR as his 2nd option and being the 2nd seed. I'd like to see Lebron play with someone like him as the 2nd option for an entire season, not for a small playoff run.
If that is a justifiable reason to win MVP, then Lebron would have won the MVP every year 2005-2010

DavisIsMyUniBro
11-21-2015, 01:55 PM
Melo :rockon: He deserved it for having JR as his 2nd option and being the 2nd seed. I'd like to see Lebron play with someone like him as the 2nd option for an entire season, not for a small playoff run.


09.

i swear, 2009 is how to destroy any lebron hater. friggin 3ball gets shaken up by the sound of it.

tmacattack33
11-21-2015, 02:04 PM
Melo :rockon: He deserved it for having JR as his 2nd option and being the 2nd seed. I'd like to see Lebron play with someone like him as the 2nd option for an entire season, not for a small playoff run.

Fail.

2013 JR Smith was on par with any of Lebron's sidekicks in Cleveland the first time. Zydranus Illgauskas and then Mo Williams.


Also, LOL at your last sentence. A "small playoff run" to the Finals is a lot more impressive than regular season success.

FreezingTsmoove
11-21-2015, 02:14 PM
As long as 2/6 is in the league this will never happen

We are talking about a guy who got blown out in the last 3 games of last years finals yet still got 4 finals mvp votes :lol

Too much agenda and too much bias when it comes to the people that vote for MVPs

imdaman99
11-21-2015, 02:17 PM
Fail.

2013 JR Smith was on par with any of Lebron's sidekicks in Cleveland the first time. Zydranus Illgauskas and then Mo Williams.


Also, LOL at your last sentence. A "small playoff run" to the Finals is a lot more impressive than regular season success.
Why so insecure? I don't like Melo. I was just checking to see how easy it is to incite you guys :facepalm

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 02:18 PM
As long as 2/6 is in the league this will never happen

We are talking about a guy who got blown out in the last 3 games of last years finals yet still got 4 finals mvp votes :lol

Too much agenda and too much bias when it comes to the people that vote for MVPs

Put up 40/14/11 on 44% in Game 5 & 32/18/9 on 39% in Game 6, plus there were 3 other games in that series as well

DaOldLion
11-21-2015, 02:21 PM
09.

i swear, 2009 is how to destroy any lebron hater. friggin 3ball gets shaken up by the sound of it.

only if you're a box score nerd who cares more about stats than winning

nobody gets shaken up by a playoff run that ended in a loss to the underdog Magic led by Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis :oldlol: :oldlol:

HenryGarfunkle
11-21-2015, 02:28 PM
If the Cavs win 50 games with the injuries they've sustained so far, LeBron should get number 5.

Since Durant has already missed time, it'd be hard to make an argument for him.

But Durant and LeBron are by far the most valuable players in the league. And it's not close.

Not all MVPS are created equal, so if Curry wins it again, it'll just be another Derrick Rose award that no one will actually give him credit for

Just another year where the best player doesn't win it

dhsilv
11-21-2015, 02:32 PM
only if you're a box score nerd who cares more about stats than winning

nobody gets shaken up by a playoff run that ended in a loss to the underdog Magic led by Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis :oldlol: :oldlol:

Anyone who watches basketball was blown away by that run. Perhaps you just have shitty nerdy stats you look at?

HenryGarfunkle
11-21-2015, 02:32 PM
Put up 40/14/11 on 44% in Game 5 & 32/18/9 on 39% in Game 6, plus there were 3 other games in that series as well
LeBron practically doubled Curry's statistical output in every major category :oldlol:

Never seen such a lopsided series between two top stars

It's why he got 4 votes on the losing team and Curry got zero on the winning one.

That's our MVP though... :oldlol:

FKAri
11-21-2015, 02:33 PM
Lebron was 1 vote off of it in 2013,

Some NY jerkoff gave it to Melo lmao


http://i.imgur.com/hP9VJhB.gif

FreezingTsmoove
11-21-2015, 02:34 PM
Put up 40/14/11 on 44% in Game 5 & 32/18/9 on 39% in Game 6, plus there were 3 other games in that series as well

Idk Man. To each his own but giving finals MVP to a guy who got blown out game 4, 5, and 6 just doesnt make sense to me. If he forced a game 7 I could understand but Warriors finished them off easily in 6

Imagine Kobe getting finals MVP votes in the 2008 finals after getting blown out in game 6, thats a joke

dhsilv
11-21-2015, 02:35 PM
Idk Man. To each his own but giving finals MVP to a guy who got blown out game 4, 5, and 6 just doesnt make sense to me. If he forced a game 7 I could understand but Warriors finished them off easily in 6

Imagine Kobe getting finals MVP votes in the 2008 finals after getting blown out in game 6, thats a joke

Given there's no criteria for the award...trying to argue over the award or getting upset over a few votes seems absurdly irrational.

tmacattack33
11-21-2015, 02:36 PM
If the Cavs win 50 games with the injuries they've sustained so far, LeBron should get number 5.

Since Durant has already missed time, it'd be hard to make an argument for him.

But Durant and LeBron are by far the most valuable players in the league. And it's not close.

Not all MVPS are created equal, so if Curry wins it again, it'll just be another Derrick Rose award that no one will actually give him credit for

Just another year where the best player doesn't win it

Bruh...

Straight_Ballin
11-21-2015, 02:36 PM
If the Cavs win 50 games with the injuries they've sustained so far, LeBron should get number 5.

Since Durant has already missed time, it'd be hard to make an argument for him.

But Durant and LeBron are by far the most valuable players in the league. And it's not close.

Not all MVPS are created equal, so if Curry wins it again, it'll just be another Derrick Rose award that no one will actually give him credit for

Just another year where the best player doesn't win it

Curry has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and he succeeded.

Durant has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and fail.

Lebron has had a team good enough around him to get him to the finals six times and he failed 4 times.

Give me the guy that has failed less times and shows more promise of that when he actually does have a team good enough to get him to the finals, he will succeed. That's who I look at as being da real MVP.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.

HenryGarfunkle
11-21-2015, 02:40 PM
Curry has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and he succeeded.

Durant has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and fail.

Lebron has had a team good enough around him to get him to the finals six times and he failed 4 times.

Give me the guy that has failed less times and shows more promise of that when he actually does have a team good enough to get him to the finals, he will succeed. That's who I look at as being da real MVP.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.
Your trolling is shit. stop posting when the big boys are around, you'll just embarrass yourself like you did here

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 02:42 PM
Curry has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and he succeeded.

Durant has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and fail.

Lebron has had a team good enough around him to get him to the finals six times and he failed 4 times.

Give me the guy that has failed less times and shows more promise of that when he actually does have a team good enough to get him to the finals, he will succeed. That's who I look at as being da real MVP.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.

This dude is straight up obsessed with Finals records. Not all Finals teams are created equal, there are teams that are good enough to win the title that lose before the Finals or even in the first round, while teams like the '02/'03 Nets and '07 Cavs took advantage of straight up horrendous conferences, and in most years wouldn't come close to the Finals

FKAri
11-21-2015, 02:43 PM
Curry has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and he succeeded.

Durant has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and fail.

Lebron has had a team good enough around him to get him to the finals six times and he failed 4 times.

Give me the guy that has failed less times and shows more promise of that when he actually does have a team good enough to get him to the finals, he will succeed. That's who I look at as being da real MVP.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.

You're making it complicated actually. It goes more like this: Guy had a team good enough to win it all so he won. Guy didn't have team good enough to win it all? He lost.

stupid stan

Straight_Ballin
11-21-2015, 02:46 PM
Once again, I have to repeat myself to the willingly ignorant.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.

All I've heard so far is "shoulda, woulda, coulda"

dhsilv
11-21-2015, 02:48 PM
Curry has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and he succeeded.

Durant has only had a team good enough around him to get to the finals once and fail.

Lebron has had a team good enough around him to get him to the finals six times and he failed 4 times.

Give me the guy that has failed less times and shows more promise of that when he actually does have a team good enough to get him to the finals, he will succeed. That's who I look at as being da real MVP.

Stop making it complicated when it's very straightforward.

This is the worst logic I've ever seen in my life...

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 02:53 PM
This is the worst logic I've ever seen in my life...

It seriously is, he's basically stating the '07 Cavs were good enough to win a title, but teams like the '14 Thunder, multiple Spurs teams, Nash led Suns, '02 Kings etc weren't, with the ONLY criteria being they didn't make the Finals :lol

thefatmiral
11-21-2015, 02:57 PM
only if you're a box score nerd who cares more about stats than winning

nobody gets shaken up by a playoff run that ended in a loss to the underdog Magic led by Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis :oldlol: :oldlol:
Loved that series. Dwight was in his prime, and before he turned heel. Derailed the kobe/LeBron finals hype.

Naero
11-21-2015, 03:05 PM
If the Cavs win 50 games with the injuries they've sustained so far, LeBron should get number 5.

Since Durant has already missed time, it'd be hard to make an argument for him.

But Durant and LeBron are by far the most valuable players in the league. And it's not close.

Not all MVPS are created equal, so if Curry wins it again, it'll just be another Derrick Rose award that no one will actually give him credit for

Just another year where the best player doesn't win it

Yeah, it will be a disgraceful snub if Curry, who is averaging 34.1 PER for the season so far - a record-breaking seasonal PER if it extrapolates, which would one-up any season of LeBron's from that metric - and a league-leading TS%, would win it over LeBron and Durant--while also LEADING his team to a record-breaking mark. :rolleyes:

I'd agree that it holds some parallels to Derrick Rose vs. LeBron in 2011 - except that Curry is outperforming LeBron by an even bigger gap than LeBron outperformed Rose back then.

Straight_Ballin
11-21-2015, 03:06 PM
This is the worst logic I've ever seen in my life...

You only refute the logic because it doesn't fit into your agenda.

It's very simple.

If you have a team good enough to get you to the finals and you as the supposed best player on the team didn't win, then YOU DIDN'T DO ENOUGH to ensure victory!

There's a reason why Jordan never choked and Curry has yet to choke.

They are winners. They made sure that they did enough that was required of them to win! What they did may vary from one finals series to the next, but the point is that they were aware of what their production levels needed to be to ensure victory.

The key to it all is getting to the finals and having a team good enough to get you there. The only exception is Lebron last year where 3 starters were injured in the finals. That's the only excuse he has. Had a chance even with those guys down to win it all but didn't win because he didn't do enough effectively. Go read 3ball's posts. He explains it very easily.

The evidence is in the fact that Jordan ensured victory of every finals he ever played in. He understood exactly what it took of him to win each and every time. He did not know how to lose.

Curry is on path to follow Jordan. He has a flawless finals record so far.

How many times does 3ball have to keep repeating the same shit and finals stats until you get it through your thick skulls? Jordan took what Kobe and Lebron did, AND DID MORE because it's what was required of him to ensure victory.

Curry is on pace to do exactly that.

HenryGarfunkle
11-21-2015, 03:14 PM
Yeah, it will be a disgraceful snub if Curry, who is averaging 34.1 PER for the season so far
Irrelevant, everyone knows he won't keep it up


a record-breaking mark, which would one-up any season of LeBron's from that metric - and a league-leading TS%, would win it over LeBron and Durant--while also LEADING his team to a record-breaking mark. :rolleyes:

Maybe leading statistically, but certainly not emotionally. Green is the leader of the team. Iggy is the veteran guy that prevented them from choking in the finals.

I've yet to see any "leadership" at all from Curry. I see his attempt at flashiness which results in careless turnovers, and I see his exacerbating showboats, but never has he given me the indication that he has any leadership qualities what so ever.

Who was the guy in the huddle picking up his teammates when they were down 20 to the Clippers? It was Draymond Green.

Curry is a great player but he's no leader. Stop trying to give him credit for something he hasn't shown.

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 03:20 PM
You only refute the logic because it doesn't fit into your agenda.

It's very simple.

If you have a team good enough to get you to the finals and you as the supposed best player on the team didn't win, then YOU DIDN'T DO ENOUGH to ensure victory!

There's a reason why Jordan never choked and Curry has yet to choke.

They are winners. They made sure that they did enough that was required of them to win! What they did may vary from one finals series to the next, but the point is that they were aware of what their production levels needed to be to ensure victory.

The key to it all is getting to the finals and having a team good enough to get you there. The only exception is Lebron last year where 3 starters were injured in the finals. That's the only excuse he has. Had a chance even with those guys down to win it all but didn't win because he didn't do enough effectively. Go read 3ball's posts. He explains it very easily.

The evidence is in the fact that Jordan ensured victory of every finals he ever played in. He understood exactly what it took of him to win each and every time. He did not know how to lose.

Curry is on path to follow Jordan. He has a flawless finals record so far.

How many times does 3ball have to keep repeating the same shit and finals stats until you get it through your thick skulls? Jordan took what Kobe and Lebron did, AND DID MORE because it's what was required of him to ensure victory.

Curry is on pace to do exactly that.

So by this logic, if the Warriors win 73 games and lose in the first round, that means they weren't good enough to win the title? Are the '07 Cavs > '16 Warriors if they win 70 games but lose in the WCF?

Gus Hemmingway
11-21-2015, 03:22 PM
Big warrior fan but I still give it to Lebronze for carrying that injury riddled team at first place in the tougher east

Straight_Ballin
11-21-2015, 03:29 PM
So by this logic, if the Warriors win 73 games and lose in the first round, that means they weren't good enough to win the title? Are the '07 Cavs > '16 Warriors if they win 70 games but lose in the WCF?

Yes, it means exactly that. Do you understand the level of intensity between a regular season game and a playoff game, or the level of intensity between a playoff game and a finals game? Or a finals game vs a game 7 finals game?

Regardless of what the regular season record is, if they lose first round then that means they were not good enough as a PLAYOFF TEAM to make it to the finals. They lost to a team in their conference in the playoffs. If they were good enough, they obviously would be in the damn finals.

I'm by no means a supporter of this east vs west nonsense as it pairs up two teams that are not exactly the two best teams of all teams in both conferences (more often than not it's going to be 2 teams from the west that are the best), but it was the same scenario for Jordan and he exhibited perfection in the finals.

Anything else is a strawman's shoulda, woulda, coulda argument.

Hopper15
11-21-2015, 03:33 PM
Unlikely considering some voters on the east coast probably are sleeping most nights when the Warriors are playing. Lebron will gets some first place votes by default.

Heavincent
11-21-2015, 03:35 PM
If the Cavs win 50 games with the injuries they've sustained so far, LeBron should get number 5.

Since Durant has already missed time, it'd be hard to make an argument for him.

But Durant and LeBron are by far the most valuable players in the league. And it's not close.

Not all MVPS are created equal, so if Curry wins it again, it'll just be another Derrick Rose award that no one will actually give him credit for

Just another year where the best player doesn't win it

Wow, how stupid can you be?

Hopper15
11-21-2015, 03:37 PM
Wow, how stupid can you be?

That kind of stupidity is dangerous.

kennethgriffin
11-21-2015, 03:37 PM
i'l put a large amount of money on someone in cleveland or from espn voting for lebron

Straight_Ballin
11-21-2015, 03:40 PM
Does anyone really give a shit about players with tainted finals records?

Pretty sure everyone is focused on what Curry will do and what guys like AD who have yet to have a good enough team to get them to the finals are gonna do.

HenryGarfunkle
11-21-2015, 03:40 PM
Wow, how stupid can you be?
Hi stupid curry stan

Still recovering form 0/11? You're an idiot if you think curry is better than Bron based on a hot start in november.

SouBeachTalents
11-21-2015, 03:54 PM
Yes, it means exactly that. Do you understand the level of intensity between a regular season game and a playoff game, or the level of intensity between a playoff game and a finals game? Or a finals game vs a game 7 finals game?

Regardless of what the regular season record is, if they lose first round then that means they were not good enough as a PLAYOFF TEAM to make it to the finals. They lost to a team in their conference in the playoffs. If they were good enough, they obviously would be in the damn finals.

I'm by no means a supporter of this east vs west nonsense as it pairs up two teams that are not exactly the two best teams of all teams in both conferences (more often than not it's going to be 2 teams from the west that are the best), but it was the same scenario for Jordan and he exhibited perfection in the finals.

Anything else is a strawman's shoulda, woulda, coulda argument.

Ok, so just answer this question honestly. Are the '07 Cavs > a 73 win Warriors team that loses the WCF in 7 to the Spurs/Thunder/Clippers?

warriorfan
11-21-2015, 04:23 PM
Big warrior fan but I still give it to Lebronze for carrying that injury riddled team at first place in the tougher east


Hi stupid curry stan

Still recovering form 0/11? You're an idiot if you think curry is better than Bron based on a hot start in november.


http://s10.postimg.org/ouip27k2h/Budaddi_PIC.jpg

:roll:

Mr. Jabbar
11-21-2015, 04:25 PM
If they break the Bulls record, then it really could happen. If they fall short, win in the high 60's, I'd be very surprised if he did. Not even 2000 Shaq got unanimous MVP voting

Kobe Bryant.

Mr. Jabbar
11-21-2015, 04:26 PM
Hi stupid curry stan

Still recovering form 0/11? You're an idiot if you think curry is better than Bron based on a hot start in november.

Steaming :roll:

jimmy77x
02-25-2016, 11:10 PM
Literally NO ONE has a case over him. But we know with the bias media it wont happen. The voting format needs to change, too many stan boys in the media.

Smoke117
02-25-2016, 11:13 PM
I'm not sure I believe he is...but Shaq DEFINITELY was in 2000 but that idiot Scoop Jackson (I believe it was him?) was a Biased ****ing moron and screwed him over in that regard when he voted Iverson as the MVP. :facepalm

jimmy77x
02-28-2016, 12:42 AM
No one else should get a vote, literally no one. Im sure bran's camp has a paid for vote already.