Era stans (Dondadda and Straight_Ballin) on Curry

[Jameerthefear]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11821276&postcount=12

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11383613&postcount=23

Era stans are the worst stans. Y'all remember that shit.

[Straight_Ballin]

I never specified that Dell was > than his son in basketball specifically. Stop assuming things.

[Jameerthefear]

I never specified that Dell was > than his son in basketball specifically. Stop assuming things.
What in the **** were you talking about then clown? Badminton?

[Hey Yo]

What in the **** were you talking about then clown? Badminton?
Chess?
Lawn Darts?
Billiards?
Water Polo?

[Naero]

Stats prove that three-point-shooting percentages were low because the shot was under-attempted, meaning that teams were three-point-shy enough back then - back before three-point-shooting was conventionalized, as many contemporaries did not even grow up with it - and thus would often accumulate three-point misses by not bothering to shoot more to bump up their three-point percentages after missing the first 1-2 attempts. Look up the stats: they substantiate the fact that collective three-point-shooting percentages improved as teams shot more of them over the years.

Moreover, handchecking = one of the most over-vaunted "disadvantages" of that era. I've watched a wealth of footage from back then;
it illustrated to me that hand-checking was scarcely used, and it certainly wasn't deployed on three-point shooters as much as it was used to curtail penetrators. If anything, forearming- the modern equivalent of handchecking- is used more nowadays, as some of the more defensive-minded coaches teach their players how to be more furtive about hand-checking now that the assets are realizing the potential benefits of that tactic in retrospect.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Chess?
Lawn Darts?
Billiards?
Water Polo?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Heavincent]

Putting Steph Curry in the 90's would be like traveling back in time to the 80's and giving someone a smart phone. Nobody would know what the **** it is.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://i.gyazo.com/b15faebea1680fd43de7ebc9ff5af212.png

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Heavincent]

Imagine Steph Curry with the shortened 3 pt line

http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

[Straight_Ballin]

These hypothetical "what would this guy do in this era" ideas while entertaining, are really just for entertainment purposes. No one can say for certainty what would or would not happen.

Just focus on what Curry is doing now and stop making excuses for other players of current era that can't succeed in the finals and were passed over from the torch being handed from Kobe to Curry.

Either that or be like OP and allow me to live rent free in your mind causing you to quote posts from 6 months ago....

[catch24]

In all fairness, I don't believe Don really thinks that.

Dude is just crazy biased about the 90s aka Jordan era. Any negative swipe or fact about that decade, and he'll just claim something ridiculous.

[warriorfan]

Imagine Steph Curry with the shortened 3 pt line

http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

bloodbath

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Imagine Steph Curry with the shortened 3 pt line

http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

60% from the 3 and thats with him shooting trickshots. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ralph_i_el]

Stats prove that three-point-shooting percentages were low because the shot was under-attempted, meaning that teams were three-point-shy enough back then - back before three-point-shooting was conventionalized, as many contemporaries did not even grow up with it - and thus would often accumulate three-point misses by not bothering to shoot more to bump up their three-point percentages after missing the first 1-2 attempts. Look up the stats: they substantiate the fact that collective three-point-shooting percentages improved as teams shot more of them over the years.

Moreover, handchecking = one of the most over-vaunted "disadvantages" of that era. I've watched a wealth of footage from back then;
it illustrated to me that hand-checking was scarcely used, and it certainly wasn't deployed on three-point shooters as much as it was used to curtail penetrators. If anything, forearming- the modern equivalent of handchecking- is used more nowadays, as some of the more defensive-minded coaches teach their players how to be more furtive about hand-checking now that the assets are realizing the potential benefits of that tactic in retrospect.

That's a retarded explanation. Isn't it more likely that teams shot more 3 pointers BECAUSE they were better at shooting them, and not the other way around?

[LoneyROY7]

Easily two of the dumbest posts ever on ISH, honestly.

[Sarcastic]

That's a retarded explanation. Isn't it more likely that teams shot more 3 pointers BECAUSE they were better at shooting them, and not the other way around?

No because most teams still suck at shooting them, but still do so anyway.

[warriorfan]

everyone in this thread got insanely trolled by Don

:applause:

[Asukal]

Now that leflop is no longer the best player in the world, his stans are going loco. :oldlol: :roll: :lol

[Rocketswin2013]

****ing idiots.

[Marchesk]

Putting Steph Curry in the 90's would be like traveling back in time to the 80's and giving someone a smart phone. Nobody would know what the **** it is.

Plus there would be no cell towers or wifi. But you could still use the camera. I'm guessing someone would figure that out. On the show, "Halt and Catch Fire", they had one of the characters mention something about a touchscreen demo being a fad at a 1984 tech show. Not sure if the writers put that in there for a 2014 audience, or if touchscreen surfaces existed back then as prototypes.

[Marchesk]

Also on that time travel show a few years back right before iPhones took off, the main character accidentally left his palm pilot back in the 90s and when he returned to 2010, they had quantum computers.

That's Wilt-level time travel shit.

[90sgoat]

Moreover, handchecking = one of the most over-vaunted "disadvantages" of that era. I've watched a wealth of footage from back then;
it illustrated to me that hand-checking was scarcely used, and it certainly wasn't deployed on three-point shooters as much as it was used to curtail penetrators.

:facepalm

'Handchecking' refers to the ability to touch a dribbling player. What this meant in reality is getting close and checking with the forearm early in the offense, usually half court pressure.

And it's used EXACTLY to deter easy penetration by forcing the point guard to turn his back to the basket at the 3 point line.

Where do you think all these 3 pointers come from? They almost all come from penetration kickout due to unimpeded dribbling because of the lack of ability to physically impeded the penetrator - which in practice meant getting real close with your belly and upper body to the guard.

Without the easy first penetration then 3s become a lot more contested. Add to that the current definition of 'screening' where players sort of stand around, turning one way, then the other, moving back and forth, up and down, these would ALL be called illegal in the past.

Fact is that its the easy penetration from the top of the 3 point line that allows these many 3s. Take away the easy no touch penetration and 3s go way down.

[oarabbus]

Imagine Steph Curry with the shortened 3 pt line

http://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif


50ppg :bowdown:

[DonDadda59]

everyone in this thread got insanely trolled by Don

:applause:

I offered to give them the standard 1st month, last month, and security deposit.

All they said was 'No, it's on the house.'

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[Jameerthefear]

I offered to give them the standard 1st month, last month, and security deposit.

All they said was 'No, it's on the house.'

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[DonDadda59]

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:biggums:

I thought we was cool... Why you want me to die, homie?

[90sgoat]

I offered to give them the standard 1st month, last month, and security deposit.

All they said was 'No, it's on the house.'

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[Jameerthefear]

:biggums:

I thought we was cool... Why you want me to die, homie?
no era stanning on my watch!!!

[Milbuck]

Some of the most retarded posts I've seen on here. I'm sure Don is trolling but Straight_Ballin probably actually believes that shit.

[90sgoat]

no era stanning on my watch!!!

46,000 posts.

:biggums:

That's some serious effort bro and I'm sure it's not the only forum.

The amount of brain power lost on internet forums, no wonder the world is going in the toilet.

[DonDadda59]

no era stanning on my watch!!!

And now your watch is ended.

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Jon-Snow-dead-Official-HBO-810x456.jpg

Watch your tongue, young sapling. I could step on you like a common roach and not even notice.

[chips93]

Stats prove that three-point-shooting percentages were low because the shot was under-attempted, meaning that teams were three-point-shy enough back then - back before three-point-shooting was conventionalized, as many contemporaries did not even grow up with it - and thus would often accumulate three-point misses by not bothering to shoot more to bump up their three-point percentages after missing the first 1-2 attempts. Look up the stats: they substantiate the fact that collective three-point-shooting percentages improved as teams shot more of them over the years.


they shot badly on threes because people thought it was a bad shot, so they didnt practice it as much, not out of a lack of confidence, out of a lack of skill.

[JohnFreeman]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg
:roll:

[chips93]

Where do you think all these 3 pointers come from? They almost all come from penetration kickout due to unimpeded dribbling because of the lack of ability to physically impeded the penetrator - which in practice meant getting real close with your belly and upper body to the guard.

Fact is that its the easy penetration from the top of the 3 point line that allows these many 3s. Take away the easy no touch penetration and 3s go way down.

they got rid of hand checking in 2004, but three point attempts have still gone up every year since then.

if hand checking was the only reason 3pt attempts went up, it should have plateaued since then.

players are shooting more threes because the league has realised its a smart shot, so players practice it more, and they've become better shooters on average.

[warriorfan]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg

not even bro

you are the retarded one who took his troll for face value

let that sink in for a moment

[ArbitraryWater]

Dadda also thinks 1995 Shaq is better than 2000 Shaq :wtf:

[catch24]

Dadda also thinks 1995 Shaq is better than 2000 Shaq :wtf:

:oldlol:

Don's MJ bias is stronkk

[LoneyROY7]

Era stans are the worst. :roll:

[3ball]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11821276&postcount=12

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11383613&postcount=23

Era stans are the worst stans. Y'all remember that shit.

I think DonDadda's first sentence was hyperbole, in a Trump-like manner, where he's really trying to make a larger point, which he articulated in the 2nd sentence:


"There's a reason why the 3-pt shooting attempts were so low until the league started eliminating contact on the perimeter. That was no coincidence."

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol:

Don's MJ bias is stronkk

Mighty dealt with him a good bit here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372932 but Dadda kept going on with "but the 90's had CENTERS!"

[catch24]

Mighty dealt with him a good bit here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372932 but Dadda kept going on with "but the 90's had CENTERS!"

Who is Mighty? Is he a veteran here?

Don is one of the smartest posters here, but his BIAS can get in the way of otherwise legit discussions.

1995 vs 2000 Shaq? There's no debate to be had. One is MDE while the other is not.

[ArbitraryWater]

Who is Mighty? Is he a veteran here?

Don is one of the smartest posters here, but his BIAS can get in the way of otherwise legit discussions.

1995 vs 2000 Shaq? There's no debate to be had. One is MDE while the other is not.


kuniva damighty? 2009 November, so yeah, vet.

[aj1987]

Mighty dealt with him a good bit here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372932 but Dadda kept going on with "but the 90's had CENTERS!"
What in the actual ****?! :roll: :roll:

[Lebronxrings]

fck era stans, and fck the weakass 90s. I don't consider eras pre 2000s as real eras, just a bunch of high school level players.

[sportjames23]

And now your watch is ended.

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Jon-Snow-dead-Official-HBO-810x456.jpg

Watch your tongue, young sapling. I could step on you like a common roach and not even notice.


****ing ether.

Jammer, you've been put on notice, phaggit.

[catch24]

kuniva damighty? 2009 November, so yeah, vet.

Oh duh :oldlol:

He's a very good poster. Knowledgeable about past eras too.

shaqisgoat, don, kuniva, dmavs, plowking, da_realist and loki are some of the hard hitters on this forum.

[aj1987]

****ing ether.

Jammer, you've been put on notice, phaggit.
I don't think you should be calling anyone a "phaggit", when you ride MJ like a $5 crackwhore.

[3ball]

Curry would get 50 with shortened 3-point line



His numbers would be the same because he shoots the same on long two's as he does threes.

Also, MJ was a far better shooter than Curry from 20 feet in - it's statistical fact:


.........................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................... ..Curry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) (<-- link to data)

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


Not even close - MJ was a far better shooter than Curry from 20 feet in

[3ball]

.
Also, here's everyone's "midrange" percentage**, directly from stats.nba.com (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):


Durant 2015: 49.0%, 143 fga
Jordan 1997: 48.9%, 1202 fga
Kobe 2013: 42.3%.. 542 fga
Curry 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Harden 2015: 37.3%, 276 fga
Lebron 2015: 37.0%, 343 fga

** Midrange is defined as any shot inside the 3-point line but outside of the paint


Obviously, MJ is a FAR better 2-point shooter than all of these players..

However, he dealt with hand-checking, higher physicality and poor spacing, so it was much harder to get all the way to the rim - midrange pull-ups were standard for EVERYBODY back then.

Despite the tougher path to the basket, he still shot FT's on 35% of his shots during his 2nd three-peat, while averaging 80 dunks a season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352399) (top 10% of league at 34-35 years old).

[Jameerthefear]

****ing ether.

Jammer, you've been put on notice, phaggit.
Dude you ride every single MJ stan's **** on this board. You literally add nothing to any conversation.

[DonDadda59]

At this point people should be paying me to stay in their heads for this long.

And for the record, the only difference between '95 Shaq and 3-Peat Shaq is him playing against Hakeem Olajuwon as opposed to Todd MacCulloch in the finals.

https://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llrnijJQyO1qk7sjzo1_500.gif

[FKAri]

And for the record, the only difference between '95 Shaq and 3-Peat Shaq is him playing against Hakeem Olajuwon as opposed to Todd MacCulloch in the finals.


What a ****ing retard

[DonDadda59]

What a ****ing retard

Replace 3-peat Shaq with '95 Shaq... same result. Unless Todd MaCulloch and the ghosts of Rik Smits and Deke got something for him in their saddlebags. :lol

'95 Shaq = more in shape, quicker, just as strong and skilled.

Only difference was the competition.

[catch24]

Only difference between '87 Jordan and 91-93 Jordan...were GOAT caliber teams and players in the 80s.

https://mytvsangtome.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/giphy.gif

[DonDadda59]

Only difference between '87 Jordan and 91-93 Jordan...were GOAT caliber teams and players in the 80s.

https://mytvsangtome.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/giphy.gif

Jordan had his best individual statistical years in the 80s. Won MVPs, DPOY, scoring titles, etc. Larry Legend even made him an official God. :confusedshrug:

Shaq couldn't put up damn near 40/20 against Hakeem but could against Todd MacCulloch. Go figure. :oldlol:

[FKAri]

Only difference between '87 Jordan and 91-93 Jordan...were GOAT caliber teams and players in the 80s.

https://mytvsangtome.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/giphy.gif

This is more true than Don Doodoo's statement about Shaq

[DonDadda59]

This is more true than Don Doodoo's statement about Shaq

Real mature. :rolleyes:

And Jordan was an MVP, DPOY, scoring champion, many times all NBA first team O and D in the 80s. He put up 33/6/6/3 (51% FG) in the RS, 35/7/7/2 (50% FG) in the playoffs during the decade. He was at his individual best during this time.

Shaq's biggest accomplishment in the 90s when there were actual centers in the league was making the all NBA 2nd and 3rd team.

His '95 Orlando team was more talented from top to bottom than any of the 3-peat teams in LA. And Shaq was derided by his coaches and teammate Kobe Bryant for getting fat and not giving full effort (this was a major source of the beef between Beans and Diesel- Shaq being a lazy fat f*cK). But when you're going up against Todd MacCulloch in the finals... it just doesn't seem to matter. :lol

These are facts.

[catch24]

Real mature. :rolleyes:

And Jordan was an MVP, DPOY, scoring champion, many times all NBA first team O and D in the 80s. He put up 33/6/6/3 (51% FG) in the RS, 35/7/7/2 (50% FG) in the playoffs during the decade. He was at his individual best during this time.

Yup, and was second fiddle to Bird who outplayed him in their H2Hs. The legend contributed to Jordan's 1-9 record in the playoffs (without Pippen).


Shaq's biggest accomplishment in the 90s when there were actual centers in the league was making the all NBA 2nd and 3rd team.

In the finals, third year Shaq played Hakeem to a statistical draw.

:confusedshrug:


His '95 Orlando team was more talented from top to bottom than any of the 3-peat teams in LA. And Shaq was derided by his coaches and teammate Kobe Bryant for getting fat and not giving full effort (this was a major source of the beef between Beans and Diesel- Shaq being a lazy fat f*cK). But when you're going up against Todd MacCulloch in the finals... it just doesn't seem to matter. :lol

Kuniva listed all the centers Shaq faced, and most were ATG. lol @ straw manning for Tod MacCulloch.

Jordan never won anything in the 80s, and he was a better player in the 90s via common knowledge. GTFO with that hoe ass shit

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[DonDadda59]

And was second fiddle to Bird who outplayed him in their H2H's. The legend contributed to Jordan's 1-9 record in the playoffs (without Pippen).

Jordan by '88 was a much better player than Bird ever was or ever could be. And Larry was no slouch, just had an ATG supporting cast is all.



In the finals, third year Shaq played Hakeem to a statistical draw.

:confusedshrug:

Now replace '95 Hakeem with '02 MacCulloch on the Rockets. What happens?

Exactly.


Kuniva listed all the centers Shaq faced, and most were ATG. lol @ straw manning for Tod Macculloch.


90s centers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>00s Centers.

This is not a matter for debate.

Shaq spent the majority of the 90s on the 3rd team all NBA for a reason.


Jordan never won anything in the 80s, and he was a better player in the 90s via common knowledge. GTFO with that hoe ass shit

F*ck what you heard. MVP, DPOY, scoring champion, steals champion, first player in NBA History (and still the only guard) to record 200 steals/100 blocks in '88 alone.

Jordan was infinitely better in the 80s than Shaq was in the 90s. Not even remotely close.

[catch24]

No trolling, dude honestly believes that '87 Jordan = '91-93 Jordan, and '95 Shaq > 2000 Shaq.

I.... phuck this shit :crazysam:

[DonDadda59]

No trolling, dude honestly believes that '87 Jordan = '91-93 Jordan, and '95 Shaq > 2000 Shaq.

I.... phuck this shit :crazysam:

Replace '91-'93 Jordan with the '88-'90 MVP/DPOY who took some scrubs to the ECF... guaranteed championships. It's not like the Bulls started winning because Jordan all of a sudden improved. :oldlol:

Replace Fat Shaq with this dude (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PpSQhyJgw) (AKA replace David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, etc with Rik Smits and Todd MacCulloch)... guaranteed championships.

80s Jordan>>>>90s Shaq

Facts on facts.

[lilteapot]

Straight_Ballin is a certified retard and this only reinforces the fact

[3ball]

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Just to be clear, we all agree that MJ is a far better shooter than Curry from inside 20 feet, right?


.........................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................... ..Curry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) (<-- link to data)

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga

[LoneyROY7]

Replace '91-'93 Jordan with the '88-'90 MVP/DPOY who took some scrubs to the ECF... guaranteed championships. It's not like the Bulls started winning because Jordan all of a sudden improved. :oldlol:

Replace Fat Shaq with this dude (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PpSQhyJgw) (AKA replace David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, etc with Rik Smits and Todd MacCulloch)... guaranteed championships.

80s Jordan>>>>90s Shaq

Facts on facts.

There's literally nothing factual about what you just posted. :oldlol:

[Kvnzhangyay]

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Just to be clear, we all agree that MJ is a far better shooter than Curry from inside 20 feet, right?


.........................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................... ..Curry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) (<-- link to data)

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga

Have you considered that Curry only shoots two-pointers as a last resort when he can't get a 3, so his % should naturally be lower, as the 2 pointers he shoots are all bailout shots

[3ball]

Have you considered that Curry only shoots two-pointers as a last resort when he can't get a 3, so his % should naturally be lower, as the 2 pointers he shoots are all bailout shots
Defenses are trying to prevent Curry's 3-pointer, not his long two pointer or midrange.

Defenses would rather him shoot a long two or mid-range shot, since his percentages on those shots are the same as his 3-point percentages, but yield 1 less point.

This is the commonly-known logic for why defenses would rather give up midrange than 3-pointers, so it doesn't just apply to Curry, but a lot of 3-point shooters.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Defenses are trying to prevent Curry's 3-pointer, not his long two pointer or midrange.

Defenses would rather him shoot a long two or mid-range shot, since his percentages on those shots are the same as his 3-point percentages, but yield 1 less point.

This is the commonly-known logic for why defenses would rather give up midrange than 3-pointers, so it doesn't just apply to Curry, but a lot of 3-point shooters.

At the same time, Curry is always looking for 3 pointers, despite what the defense gives him. Whenever he HAS to take a 2 pointer, it is usually a bad shot because it's a bailout shot.

Both ways of thinking make logical sense

[3ball]

There's literally nothing factual about you what just posted. :oldlol:
Jordan was scoring champ, dpoy, and mvp in 1988 - that's the best individual season ever.. He averaged 35 ppg on 54%, with 3.2 stl and 1.6 blk... Obviously, 1988 Jordan was equal or greater than 90's Jordan.

Unfortunately, Pippen was a rookie in 1988, and only averaged 7.6 ppg in 20 minutes per game.. The clip below shows how much development Scottie needed, and tuteledge he got from MJ - MJ grew Scottie from this scrawny, weak-minded player into a man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0f1EsUVCIU0&t=0m24s


But it took MJ 4 years to do it:

1988 Playoffs: Pippen averages 10/5
1989 Playoffs: Pippen averages 10/7 on 40% in ECF, and played 1 min in Game 6
1990 Playoffs: Pippen averages 17 ppg on 42.6% in ECF, including epic Game 7 choke (1-10 for 2 pts)

[3ball]

At the same time, Curry is always looking for 3 pointers, despite what the defense gives him. Whenever he HAS to take a 2 pointer, it is usually a bad shot because it's a bailout shot.

Both ways of thinking make logical sense


Your's doesn't make sense - your argument relies on the bolded above, which isn't a true assertion - Curry isn't always looking for 3-pointers.

If he was, given his handle and shooting ability, he'd be able to get one anytime he wanted, rather than only shoot them half the time this season, and only 1/3 of the time for his career.

There's no way half his shots (3-pointers) are super-contested because he's the best 3-point shooter in history, but then his 2-pointers are ALSO super-contested.. That's bullshit trying to have it both ways.

Accept it - MJ is the far better shooter inside 20 feet, just like Curry is the better 3-point shooter... Again, don't try to have it both ways - anyone can see through that.
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[Kvnzhangyay]

Your's doesn't make sense - your argument relies on the bolded above, which isn't a true assertion - Curry isn't always looking for 3-pointers.

If he was, given his handle and shooting ability, he'd be able to get one anytime he wanted, rather than only shoot them half the time.

There's no way half his shots (3-pointers) are super-contested because he's the best 3-point shooter in history, but then his 2-pointers are ALSO super-contested.. That's bullshit trying to have it both ways.

Accept it - MJ is the far better shooter inside 20 feet, just like Curry is the better 3-point shooter... Again, don't try to have it both ways - that's too easy to see through.

This is not true though- Curry is by far the better shooter, even within 20 feet. It's not like Curry's shooting just drops off. It's just Curry cannot get off a good shot like MJ could inside, which is what makes MJ a better scorer inside 20 feet.

[3ball]

This is not true though- Curry is by far the better shooter, even within 20 feet. It's not like Curry's shooting just drops off. It's just Curry cannot get off a good shot like MJ could inside, which is what makes MJ a better scorer inside 20 feet.



We aren't talking about inside scoring - we're talking about jumpshots inside 20 feet:


.........................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................... ..Curry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


MJ shot far better inside 20 feet on five times the volume, so he's the far better shooter.

Btw, the same argument you're making (that Curry's two's are bailouts, so his percentage is lower) can be used to say MJ is the better 3-point shooter, since all his threes were bailouts too.. See how dumb your argument is?
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[DonDadda59]

There's literally nothing factual about what you just posted. :oldlol:

Facts on top of facts, underneath a stack of other facts, filed away in the fact cabinet.

Deal with it. :pimp: