Rumor: Derrick Rose for Joe Johnson is a possibility

[INDI]

I'll be the first to admit I thought my nets would rule the world when we got pierce and kg from the celtics. Though I am not mad at that trade because it was the most excitement we had in awhile, I do realize now how bleak our future looks (boring players, no playoffs, and no draft picks)!!!. There is one bright spot though and that is Joe Johnsons expiring contract.

I literally had this conversation with my barber this morning before running across this article. It makes so much sense for both teams that there has to be some wings with this one. The bulls have become use to not playing with rose for 3 years now. Teams no longer game plan for him and Jimmy is the new face of the organization. By trading rose and say Taj gibson for Johnson and maybe Jarrett Jack, the bulls would have the cap space needed to make a serious run at Durant in 2016. Of course it's obvious why the Nets do it, though rose probably won't help us win that many more games, he will absolutely help us sell tickets and become the face of NY basketball.

If the bulls do it and are able to woo Durant (which is not a far fetched scenario) they would only be an above average pg away from non stop eastern conference finals trips with the cavs.

Pg - ?/ Hinrich/ Jarrett Jack
Sg - butler/ Johnson
Sf - Durant/ McDermott/ Snell/ Dunleavy
Pf - Miritoc/ ?
C - Gasol/ Noah


What do you think about Brooklyn being a fit for Rose?





http://www.streamingaddict.net/nba/nba-trade-rumor-derrick-rose-to-be-traded-for-joe-johnson

[HenryGarfunkle]

Isn't Johnson like 35?

I know Rose is terrible but IDK if it makes any sense for the short or long-term, Durant's not going to Chi-town regardless

Just wait out Rose's terrible contract and kick him to the curb

[FreezingTsmoove]

Holy shit NY would absolutely love Derrick Rose

In a era of amazing PGs we have yet to have a good one

Felton and Deron thats about it

[catch24]

This might come back and bite me in the ass, but I honestly believe Rose is done.

Done as in being a superstar caliber player. He might make a few all-star games, and even play like a monster from time to time, but his impact will be nothing short of a serviceable role player.

The injuries, mental deficiencies... The guy has already peaked...

[INDI]

Isn't Johnson like 35?

I know Rose is terrible but IDK if it makes any sense for the short or long-term, Durant's not going to Chi-town regardless

Just wait out Rose's terrible contract and kick him to the curb


Joe Johnson would be the pawn in this scenario to land Durant. The bulls are not going to win a championship until the develop a offensive identity. Durant would be a monster with the way the bulls are constructed. In the offseason they could re sign Johnson to a much lower salary after signing Durant and have Joe as the backup sg/sf.

[HenryGarfunkle]

Joe Johnson would be the pawn in this scenario to land Durant. The bulls are not going to win a championship until the develop a offensive identity. Durant would be a monster with the way the bulls are constructed. In the offseason they could re sign Johnson to a much lower salary after signing Durant and have Joe as the backup sg/sf.
You think Joe Johnson, Jimmy Butler, and a declining Pau Gasol would be enough to lure Kevin Durant?

It's just not gonna happen

Durant would be a monster on any team, that's not the issue. The Bulls don't have nearly enough firepower to convince Durant to play with those bums

[Naero]

As much as the Bulls need to marginalize Rose to ensure that he doesn't stunt Jimmy Butler's upgrowth as a leader, who is going to willfully
Accept his contract? Rose isn't even worth his contract when healthy unless he's devoid of all of the mental perturbations accompanied by his injuries, and his current state renders that contract useless aside from being a placeholder on the books for teams needing to immediately relieve salary-cap space.

Rose can still have a positive-impact role on the team, but he needs to play like a traditionalistic Point Guard and espouse the fact that he can no longer be the go-to scorer on this team.

His days of "superstardom" are done. It's a shame, because he didn't need to degenerate to this state either; his questionable work ethic and mental hurdles of overcoming the injury have insidiously compounded the lasting damage left by the injuries, not just the physical damage itself.

[HylianNightmare]

Bulls say no thanks

[warriorfan]

shit for shit

everyone loses

sounds great

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm actually not sure who would be better to have, short or long term. JJ is clearly on the downside but we've been waiting for Rose to get his MVP form back for so long that I just don't see how it can be assumed that he does. Neither guy is worth what he's getting paid with Johnson being a year less. I suppose it's a good gamble for Brooklyn because they don't get their own draft picks. But Prokhorov would end up furious if Rose continues to miss games the way he has these last few years.

[INDI]

Bulls say no thanks

To Durant?!?

[bluechox2]

durants gonna leave westbrook, ibalka, kanter for...jimmy butler, almost retired gasol/johnson? yea sure buddy

washigton has a better team worthwhile to play with over that old group
even okc is just flat out better
even golden state will have room to keep durant without losing anything

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

The Leastern Conference should do anything they can to be less watered down. If only Porzingod was drafted to the west and Emmanuel God is with us" Mudiya was drafted in the east

[BarberSchool]

As much as the Bulls need to marginalize Rose to ensure that he doesn't stunt Jimmy Butler's upgrowth as a leader, who is going to willfully
Accept his contract? Rose isn't even worth his contract when healthy unless he's devoid of all of the mental perturbations accompanied by his injuries, and his current state renders that contract useless aside from being a placeholder on the books for teams needing to immediately relieve salary-cap space.

Rose can still have a positive-impact role on the team, but he needs to play like a traditionalistic Point Guard and espouse the fact that he can no longer be the go-to scorer on this team.

His days of "superstardom" are done. It's a shame, because he didn't need to degenerate to this state either; his questionable work ethic and mental hurdles of overcoming the injury have insidiously compounded the lasting damage left by the injuries, not just the physical damage itself.I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.

[LoneyROY7]

I'd love to hear nathan's thought on such a trade.

[pastis]

damn, joe johnson. Didnt even know that he is still active. This dude has fallen so deep.

I remember the "brooklyn"-hype few years ago with Williams, Johnson, Lopez and later KG:lol . Brooklyn seems to be surrounded by the stale air of insignificancy. So Derrick Rose would be good for this franchise. Even if he is an injury prone. WOuld made brookly a little bit more flashy.....for a few weeks at least:applause:

[DMAVS41]

shit for shit

everyone loses

sounds great

LOL...so true.

It's a match made in heaven...the two least valuable players in the league so far this season being traded for each other!

[Sarcastic]

Brooklyn should ask for draft picks back since they have to absorb such a big contract.

[DMAVS41]

Brooklyn should ask for draft picks back since they have to absorb such a big contract.

Joe Johnson is the 2nd highest paid player in the league...:cheers:

[BlazerRed]

I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.

Damn..

[imdaman99]

Rose is Chicago's son. He isn't going anywhere. He is another good game on nationally televised TV away from being back on good terms with the fans and them voting him in as a starter in the all star game.

[alanLA92]

Rose is Chicago's son. He isn't going anywhere. He is another good game on nationally televised TV away from being back on good terms with the fans and them voting him in as a starter in the all star game.

He would probably get injured again at that point.

[bluechox2]

Brook no ankles or foot Lopez and Derrick no knees rose

Wow

[nathanjizzle]

people in here act like rose is garbage :roll: ignorant. he just put up 23 points (50%) and 6 his last game against indy. and was the sole reason they won that game.

hes still the most impactful player on the bulls, why the fuc would the bulls trade him for a player that is washed up and would be second string to butler.

[SwishSquared]

This might be a good move for Chicago, provided they find a competent PG this summer. JJ expires this summer, whereas Rose expires in summer 2017. Chicago theoretically would open up quite a bit of cap space this summer.

However, if they don't get another scrap heap PG to make it through this season and then don't find somebody this summer, they could be in some trouble.

[bluechox2]

bulls were fine with brooks, augustin and nate in the past

[Hittin_Shots]

people in here act like rose is garbage :roll: ignorant. he just put up 23 points (50%) and 6 his last game against indy. and was the sole reason they won that game.

hes still the most impactful player on the bulls, why the fuc would the bulls trade him for a player that is washed up and would be second string to butler.

Too shed salary to get involved in the Durant sweep stakes obviously.

[BarberSchool]

Rose is Chicago's son. He isn't going anywhere. He is another good game on nationally televised TV away from being back on good terms with the fans and them voting him in as a starter in the all star game.
You're from NYC, don't speak for us.
I'm from Chicago, and chill with every community daily.
He isn't one good game away from being back in our good graces.
Here's the breakdown....

The only people here he has left as devoted fans, aren't die hard sports fans.
It's casual female fans, who don't mean shit, since they don't buy tickets or gear.
It's casual male fans, who either rarely watch games and don't know what he's done other than being MVP years ago, and being injured all the time.
These two groups don't amount to much.

Chicago is the best sports city in the USA. Rivaled only by Boston, Philly, and NYC. Most of the real sports fans here on any side of town are done with son.

After what he did to Butler during a live playoff game, and saying what he said on media day (which was a gigantic local story here not sure how much it blew up nationally), the real heads are completely done with son. Simple as that.

Don't claim to know. You don't.

[JohnFreeman]

I thought Memphis might trade for JJ with jeff Green and someone else

[DMAVS41]

people in here act like rose is garbage :roll: ignorant. he just put up 23 points (50%) and 6 his last game against indy. and was the sole reason they won that game.

hes still the most impactful player on the bulls, why the fuc would the bulls trade him for a player that is washed up and would be second string to butler.

14/3/6 43% TS 11.1 PER...

Sorry, that is ****ing garbage

[DMAVS41]

This might be a good move for Chicago, provided they find a competent PG this summer. JJ expires this summer, whereas Rose expires in summer 2017. Chicago theoretically would open up quite a bit of cap space this summer.

However, if they don't get another scrap heap PG to make it through this season and then don't find somebody this summer, they could be in some trouble.

It's a home run trade still though. People will be lining up to play with a dude like Butler in a city like Chicago. They'd be a very good free agent destination going forward.

They can find someone to come in and fill in for Rose...and they'll be a better team for it.

Many guys would make the Bulls a better team filling in for Rose so far this season. He's been a huge negative on this team...and clearly he and Butler don't see eye to eye.

There is always the chance he turns it around, but ugh...not much faith on that front...and rightfully so.

[nathanjizzle]

14/3/6 43% TS 11.1 PER...

Sorry, that is ****ing garbage

hmm. hes only played in 10 games. and the only 2 important games theyve had which were against cleveland and okc, he put up 18 and 6 and 29 and 8. both wins. doesnt sound like a garbage player to me. but hey, keep looking at your general stats from a 10 game sample size. :roll:

tell me about how "grueling" it is to win in the west last year again? :lol retard.

[DMAVS41]

hmm. hes only played in 10 games. and the only 2 important games theyve had which were against cleveland and okc, he put up 18 and 6 and 29 and 8. both wins. doesnt sound like a garbage player to me. but hey, keep looking at your general stats from a 10 game sample size. :roll:

tell me about how "grueling" it is to win in the west last year again? :lol retard.

every game counts son. you calling someone names doesn't change how garbage he's been.

also, staying on the floor matters...if you can't stay on the floor...your value as a player drops

he's been utter garbage overall this year...you don't get to cherry pick a couple good games. those games are included in his overall play...and it's been terrible to date.

now, that doesn't mean it will continue, but my god...it's been a horrific start to the year for him

[nathanjizzle]

It's a home run trade still though. People will be lining up to play with a dude like Butler in a city like Chicago. They'd be a very good free agent destination going forward.

They can find someone to come in and fill in for Rose...and they'll be a better team for it.

Many guys would make the Bulls a better team filling in for Rose so far this season. He's been a huge negative on this team...and clearly he and Butler don't see eye to eye.

There is always the chance he turns it around, but ugh...not much faith on that front...and rightfully so.

why exactly are you so high on butler? you do know his impact isnt as what you think it is. looking at games won and lost, when ever butler was the leading scorer for that game, the bulls are 3-3. when any other player was the leading scorer the bulls are 5-1. d rose is 2-2 when he is the leading scorer. butlers impact is a facade, especially when he averages 3 assist for 38 minutes. :roll: but what do you know, you are ignorant.

[DMAVS41]

why exactly are you so high on butler? you do know his impact isnt as what you think it is. looking at games won and lost, when ever butler was the leading scorer for that game, the bulls are 3-3. when any other player was the leading scorer the bulls are 5-1. d rose is 2-2 when he is the leading scorer. butlers impact is a facade, especially when he averages 3 assist for 38 minutes. :roll: but what do you know, you are ignorant.

i'm actually lower on Butler than a lot of people here...especially bulls fans

rose has nothing to do with butler....it's truly insane to even compare them...nobody but you and other rose stans think Rose is remotely close to Butler as a player so far this year

[Smoke117]

If this did happen, Nate here would then become a Nets fan.

[STATUTORY]

I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.

this is some of the hardest hitting shit i read on this site ever

what exactly ahppened between rose and butler in the playoff game?

[nathanjizzle]

every game counts son. you calling someone names doesn't change how garbage he's been.

also, staying on the floor matters...if you can't stay on the floor...your value as a player drops

he's been utter garbage overall this year...you don't get to cherry pick a couple good games. those games are included in his overall play...and it's been terrible to date.

now, that doesn't mean it will continue, but my god...it's been a horrific start to the year for him

every game counts as far as stats go so to you its important. i care about wins and which player helped win. if rose doesnt try his best or isnt into a game because its a gimme for the bulls where he can just create and involve his teammates, thats fine with me. i dont disagree with you that hes had some horrific stat games, some times hes been negative, mostly hes just has no effect. but hes had some great games, especially the one in indy where he put up 27 points and 6 assists shooting 50 percent. sorry but thats not a garbage player. whether you believe it or not, rose is still the best player on the team, and the most impactful, and guess what? hes is the winningest player on the bulls so far this season.

[JohnFreeman]

Should have traded Rose for Bledsoe when Phoenix and Bled hated each other

[DMAVS41]

I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gev_Phjl764

[DMAVS41]

every game counts as far as stats go so to you its important. i care about wins and which player helped win. if rose doesnt try his best or isnt into a game because its a gimme for the bulls where he can just create and involve his teammates, thats fine with me. i dont disagree with you that hes had some horrific stat games, some times hes been negative, mostly hes just has no effect. but hes had some great games, especially the one in indy where he put up 27 points and 6 assists shooting 50 percent. sorry but thats not a garbage player. whether you believe it or not, rose is still the best player on the team, and the most impactful, and guess what? hes is the winningest player on the bulls so far this season.

but rose isn't helping them win...the Bulls are -1.7 points with Rose on the floor and 6.6 points better without Rose on the court.

he is not their best player so far....just stop it

[TripleA]

Deron Williams is balling Bulls should try to trade for him.

[nathanjizzle]

but rose isn't helping them win...the Bulls are -1.7 points with Rose on the floor and 6.6 points better without Rose on the court.

he is not their best player so far....just stop it

yo do you watch games or you watch box score and stat sheets? rose did win the OKC and IND game for the bulls, they were definitely losing those 2 if he wasnt playing. 2 definite games he won out of 10 games played.

[SwishSquared]

It's a home run trade still though. People will be lining up to play with a dude like Butler in a city like Chicago. They'd be a very good free agent destination going forward.

They can find someone to come in and fill in for Rose...and they'll be a better team for it.

Many guys would make the Bulls a better team filling in for Rose so far this season. He's been a huge negative on this team...and clearly he and Butler don't see eye to eye.

There is always the chance he turns it around, but ugh...not much faith on that front...and rightfully so.I'd pull the trigger if this was presented, especially if Chicago can extract anything else out of Billy King.

I think that if they do this deal, they'd only have Butler/Gibson/Mirotic/MDJ on non-rookie deals. That assumes Gasol opts-out, which I imagine he does.

They can replace Rose's current production, likely without much trouble. They should be able to open enough room for 2 maxes + a small signing next summer.

I think the bigger question is why would Brooklyn do this trade for any reason other than to make it less likely to give Boston the #2 pick. This gives them like the #4 pick, maybe lol.

[DMAVS41]

yo do you watch games or you watch box score and stat sheets? rose did win the OKC and IND game for the bulls, they were definitely losing those 2 if he wasnt playing. 2 definite games he won out of 10 games played.

yo yo...he hasn't been their best player

I guess JVG was a troll the other day when he called Butler by far their best player....right?

i applauded and praised Rose for his game against OKC...it was great to watch...

problem is...you can't do that 1 every 5 or so games while being terrible the other games. that isn't helping a team enough...especially when you are making 20 plus million a year

his value is really really low for a team at his current level of play

[DMAVS41]

I'd pull the trigger if this was presented, especially if Chicago can extract anything else out of Billy King.

I think that if they do this deal, they'd only have Butler/Gibson/Mirotic/MDJ on non-rookie deals. That assumes Gasol opts-out, which I imagine he does.

They can replace Rose's current production, likely without much trouble. They should be able to open enough room for 2 maxes + a small signing next summer.

I think the bigger question is why would Brooklyn do this trade for any reason other than to make it less likely to give Boston the #2 pick. This gives them like the #4 pick, maybe lol.

they do it because they have no reason to tank and because the upside of Rose getting his game back is worth taking on his contract for 1.5 years...

if it works? huge upside

if it doesn't? nothing really changes...other than more fans come out...which is good of course

[Black and White]

Rose isn't the same player anymore, I feel like him and Butler don't complement each other well and it might be a case of addition by subtraction.

Its time the Bulls move on and start looking at free agency and becoming a viable destination that appeals to free agents, getting rid of Rose is a part of this.

Also I see people bringing up Butlers starts to gauge his value, his value goes further than his stats, watching yesterdays game against GS will show this.

Trade Rose.

[nathanjizzle]

yo yo...he hasn't been their best player

I guess JVG was a troll the other day when he called Butler by far their best player....right?

i applauded and praised Rose for his game against OKC...it was great to watch...

problem is...you can't do that 1 every 5 or so games while being terrible the other games. that isn't helping a team enough...especially when you are making 20 plus million a year

his value is really really low for a team at his current level of play

JVG believing in popular consensus is a valid point now?

But the thing is he isnt playing terrible the other 4 games though. You can even give him credit for beating the cavs too, putting up 18 and 6. 8 out of those 10 games hes played hes either lead the team in points or assists or both.
Its just too early in the season to make a concrete judgement on rose on what kind of player he is, especially when talking about trading him for bums. I feel he will be better than last year, hes lost 10 pounds and has had an off season to get in condition instead of rehabbing. the right thing and only thing to do with rose is to let him play out his contract and you take what hes going to give you.

[SwishSquared]

they do it because they have no reason to tank and because the upside of Rose getting his game back is worth taking on his contract for 1.5 years...

if it works? huge upside

if it doesn't? nothing really changes...other than more fans come out...which is good of courseIs it better than having another $20M this summer to fill out their roster though? It likely helps them be less humiliated come the 2016 draft, but is the upside of Rose being healthy and performing in a contract year during the 2016-2017 season better than being able to have more flexibility this summer?

That's the part I can't fully rationalize this trade for the Net. Otherwise, it makes sense. Joe Johnson hates being on that team.

[Sarcastic]

Joe Johnson is the 2nd highest paid player in the league...:cheers:


Yea but he is expiring. Rose still has years left to go.

[INDI]

Is it better than having another $20M this summer to fill out their roster though? It likely helps them be less humiliated come the 2016 draft, but is the upside of Rose being healthy and performing in a contract year during the 2016-2017 season better than being able to have more flexibility this summer?

That's the part I can't fully rationalize this trade for the Net. Otherwise, it makes sense. Joe Johnson hates being on that team.

I would say it's better than having the 20 mil available. Who we gonna get with that 20 mil? It'll be either two decent players or overpay for a player that's not even a allstar because we can't lure the big free agents. If Brooklyn holds the money in hopes to make a splash that would be a mistake, more than likely we would still be a team that sits somewhere between 8-12 in the east. There are only 3 options for organizations when it comes to making moves

1. Add key role players - this method is the best if you're team is a contender

2. Blow it up - this is good if your team isn't good but you have a lot of expirers and draft picks

3. Trade for a star - if your team sucks, and assets are few, and have nothing to entice a big name.

Rose has the ability to create some excitement for a franchise desperately in need of it. Even though he won't help us win that many more games, he can make the fans fill up those empty seats. He may also have the ability to lure in a free agent or two that wouldn't have come had he not been there. Absolutely a good deal on both ends imo

[DMAVS41]

Is it better than having another $20M this summer to fill out their roster though? It likely helps them be less humiliated come the 2016 draft, but is the upside of Rose being healthy and performing in a contract year during the 2016-2017 season better than being able to have more flexibility this summer?

That's the part I can't fully rationalize this trade for the Net. Otherwise, it makes sense. Joe Johnson hates being on that team.


Honestly, I'm not even thinking like that. Who does Brooklyn have? Brook and Thad...Rondae looks decent. I thought Larkin would be a good pro, but not sure anymore.

What are you going to really do with that extra cap this summer?

To me, you take the risk on Rose...and just delay having all that cap one more year.

[Im so nba'd out]

Unreal D Rose went from the most overrated player (his mvp season) to the most underrated player in like 4 years.The level of disrespect is just crazy on this forum.

[BIG FURB]

Unreal D Rose went from the most overrated player (his mvp season) to the most underrated player in like 4 years.The level of disrespect is just crazy on this forum.

Makes no damn sense. The guys been playing with double vision and will likely still have to deal with it for another month or so and people are ragging on him cause of his stats?!? GTFO, I'd love to see how any of the shit talkers here would play in the same condition.

[raprap]

I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.
Mygad :applause: :roll:

[SwishSquared]

Honestly, I'm not even thinking like that. Who does Brooklyn have? Brook and Thad...Rondae looks decent. I thought Larkin would be a good pro, but not sure anymore.

What are you going to really do with that extra cap this summer?

To me, you take the risk on Rose...and just delay having all that cap one more year.True. Idk how many FAs will change teams this year, but I'd rather use that money to overpay a guy like Fournier, Barnes, or one of the Houston PFs + 1 other small signing than bank on Rose having a good season.

But trading for Rose is so Billy King.

[DMAVS41]

True. Idk how many FAs will change teams this year, but I'd rather use that money to overpay a guy like Fournier, Barnes, or one of the Houston PFs + 1 other small signing than bank on Rose having a good season.

But trading for Rose is so Billy King.

Oh...I would as well. I just have no faith in Brooklyn at all to sign someone that makes sense.

I'd honestly just think they are better off "punting" this off season...as you aren't doing anything around Brook and Thad unless you get a player with Rose's potential when he's right.

Then, after next year, Brook will be on his last year and Thad might opt out after 18 if he's still good because he'll likely get another 4 year deal at a nice number. So they could kind of overhaul the roster in the summer of 17 if they wanted.

Fournier will probably take the money, but I doubt a guy like Barnes is willing to go to Brooklyn given how bad that team likely will be again next year. Even then though...there might be a better situation for a guy like Fournier with equal money.

But, without those draft picks...just ugh...there really is just not much you can do. That is why I like the Rose idea...probably won't work, but if it does...it gives you 2.5 years of something interesting to watch and build around...instead of being depressed that your picks are all going to Boston.

[SwishSquared]

Oh...I would as well. I just have no faith in Brooklyn at all to sign someone that makes sense.

I'd honestly just think they are better off "punting" this off season...as you aren't doing anything around Brook and Thad unless you get a player with Rose's potential when he's right.

Then, after next year, Brook will be on his last year and Thad might opt out after 18 if he's still good because he'll likely get another 4 year deal at a nice number. So they could kind of overhaul the roster in the summer of 17 if they wanted.

Fournier will probably take the money, but I doubt a guy like Barnes is willing to go to Brooklyn given how bad that team likely will be again next year. Even then though...there might be a better situation for a guy like Fournier with equal money.You're right- I put too much faith in them making a smart use of their cap space :lol

I do think that they can trade for Rose this summer, just into their cap space, assuming Chicago holds onto them for the rest of the season. Maybe they can try to sign a FA and if it fails, then they can trade for Rose.

I agree though- 2017 is when they need to crush FA. Westbrook, Steph (lol yeah right), Ibaka, and potentially Durant (if he does 1+1) will be on the move then.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

I think he's done too. In all ways.

The Media Day episode prior to this season said it all, and warned any future team of exactly what they're getting. Which is.....a selfish, shortsighted, lazy, has been, who is so socially and mentally crippled, that he is biologically unable to ever understand the fluidity and brotherhood of championship-level team sports on any level.

It just further reinforces how utterly, frustratingly stupid he is, that he didn't even attempt to be shrewd and guarding of this "I'm preparing for free agency in 2 years as my #1 priority this season). He just blurted it out on Media Day, like an oblivious @sshole. I think taj broke son's orbital bone on purpose, to let him know what everyone felt about him, in the only language which leaves no room for misinterpretation.

I think Rose will be traded in the last year of his contract, right before the deadline, for whatever they can get. And it won't be much, because anyone who knows anything knows Rose isn't gonna give any team or sponsor anything anymore, besides dissapointment, an unmarketable aspergers personality, and a dumb blank stare.

One of the strongest doses of ether I've ever read. nathan really should contemplate Seppuku after this. Just savage.

:eek:

[LootOP]

Lmao at the sources for this rumor.

[ballinhun8]

I'd do it if we could find a third team and get a starting quality PG back.



Maybe package MDJ and a draft pick to acquire one. Honestly I'd like a guy like Rubio, just don'tcount on him for scoring but to get the ball to our scorers. And a move like that givds the reigns to Snell and McBuckets to take over the wing.




I like it obviously for the salary reasons. We can definitely attract FAs. People here acting as if all we have is Butler. We still have young guys like Snell, McDermott, hopefully Portis turns to something, and oh yea? Niko. Somehow everyone here who laughed at Durant coming to Chicago failed to mentioned the star that is Mirotic. Mini Dirk and Butler is as good as twosome as you can have as its still young and getting better. Oh and we also play in the Least. You don't think Durant knows that? A trio of those guys would do some serious damage.

[poido123]

I'd do it if we could find a third team and get a starting quality PG back.



Maybe package MDJ and a draft pick to acquire one. Honestly I'd like a guy like Rubio, just don'tcount on him for scoring but to get the ball to our scorers. And a move like that givds the reigns to Snell and McBuckets to take over the wing.




I like it obviously for the salary reasons. We can definitely attract FAs. People here acting as if all we have is Butler. We still have young guys like Snell, McDermott, hopefully Portis turns to something, and oh yea? Niko. Somehow everyone here who laughed at Durant coming to Chicago failed to mentioned the star that is Mirotic. Mini Dirk and Butler is as good as twosome as you can have as its still young and getting better. Oh and we also play in the Least. You don't think Durant knows that? A trio of those guys would do some serious damage.


If we could somehow move Rose, Gibson and Dunleavy, that would be ideal.


Rose value is pretty low atm. I'd think teams would be hesitant to take on that salary and give anything back for Rose.

[Crimsonrain777]

You're from NYC, don't speak for us.
I'm from Chicago, and chill with every community daily.
He isn't one good game away from being back in our good graces.
Here's the breakdown....

The only people here he has left as devoted fans, aren't die hard sports fans.
It's casual female fans, who don't mean shit, since they don't buy tickets or gear.
It's casual male fans, who either rarely watch games and don't know what he's done other than being MVP years ago, and being injured all the time.
These two groups don't amount to much.

Chicago is the best sports city in the USA. Rivaled only by Boston, Philly, and NYC. Most of the real sports fans here on any side of town are done with son.

After what he did to Butler during a live playoff game, and saying what he said on media day (which was a gigantic local story here not sure how much it blew up nationally), the real heads are completely done with son. Simple as that.

Don't claim to know. You don't.

what did he do? just curious

[nathanjizzle]

bump

rose is averaging 18 and 4 against hte top 8 teams in the league and with a 6-0 record. hes shooting 45 percent the last 13 games. trade him for joe johnson guys. trade him for scrubs. idiots.

[nathanjizzle]

LOL...so true.

It's a match made in heaven...the two least valuable players in the league so far this season being traded for each other!

60% 25 points and 4 assists. the least valuable in the league!! guys, dmavs41 is right once again! idiot.

[JohnMax]

nathanjizzle :applause:

[DMAVS41]

60% 25 points and 4 assists. the least valuable in the league!! guys, dmavs41 is right once again! idiot.

Look at the quote....the two least valuable players so far....which they were.

Also, Rose is still shooting an abysmal 44% TS...with an offensive rating of 90. He has a 10.6 PER.

While he's been playing better lately, thank god, he's still been atrocious overall this year.

:confusedshrug:

[nathanjizzle]

Look at the quote....the two least valuable players so far....which they were.

Also, Rose is still shooting an abysmal 44% TS...with an offensive rating of 90. He has a 10.6 PER.

While he's been playing better lately, thank god, he's still been atrocious overall this year.

:confusedshrug:

just take the L idiot. your only argument is factoring in the first dozen games hes had with a ****ing mask on. you were condoning trading him for scrubs. are you still trading him for joe johnson or the other scrubs you have listed right now? tell me.

[DMAVS41]

just take the L idiot. you were condoning trading him for scrubs. are you still trading him for joe johnson or the other scrubs you have listed right now? tell me.

I don't like Rose on this team next to Butler. I'd rather have a different style of point next to Butler for sure.

I don't think they can win it...so from a purely basketball perspective...yes, I'd trade Rose in a salary dump because I don't like the Butler/Rose fit...and you go with Butler as he's a far better player than Rose now.

Take what L? Rose was playing absolutely horrific at the time...which I pointed out.

Just like he's been playing much better as of late...which I've pointed out.

Describing something that is actually happening is not open to..."taking the L" on something.

You seem confused and angry....serious question...is everything okay with you? Like...what caused you to make that Dirk thread and bump this? It seems like something set you off.

Hope everything is good.

[JohnFreeman]

But you could bundle Joe Johnson and Sacramentos pick and get something nice

[dunksby]

Nobody wants Rose :lol

[Stout]

I know Rose is on the block, but this would have been a bad trade. Why over pay for an old backup to Jimmy?

[JohnFreeman]

I know Rose is on the block, but this would have been a bad trade. Why over pay for an old backup to Jimmy?
Because it's the last year of his contract and it's a huge salary dump

[DMAVS41]

I know Rose is on the block, but this would have been a bad trade. Why over pay for an old backup to Jimmy?

JJ is expiring...so you'd get out of the Rose contract a year early so you have more to spend this summer.

You couldn't make deal now as Rose is playing better and you'd need to get more back.

But purely from a basketball standpoint...I don't think Rose/Butler makes a lot of sense.

[Stout]

Because it's the last year of his contract and it's a huge salary dump
My bad, at this point I have just accepted that Joe's contract is massive and lasts forever :lol

[nathanjizzle]

I don't like Rose on this team next to Butler. I'd rather have a different style of point next to Butler for sure.

I don't think they can win it...so from a purely basketball perspective...yes, I'd trade Rose in a salary dump because I don't like the Butler/Rose fit...and you go with Butler as he's a far better player than Rose now.

Take what L? Rose was playing absolutely horrific at the time...which I pointed out.

Just like he's been playing much better as of late...which I've pointed out.

Describing something that is actually happening is not open to..."taking the L" on something.

You seem confused and angry....serious question...is everything okay with you? Like...what caused you to make that Dirk thread and bump this? It seems like something set you off.

Hope everything is good.

:roll: you really think the bulls would go anywhere with butler as the leader. you are just stupid.
take the L. you said to trade rose a dozen games into the season for scrubs. and its mind boggling how you still would:lol not looking so good for your idiotic opinions at this point. its only going to get worst for you from this point forward.

[DMAVS41]

:roll: you really think the bulls would go anywhere with butler as the leader. you are just stupid.
take the L. you said to trade rose a dozen games into the season for scrubs. and its mind boggling how you still would:lol not looking so good for your idiotic opinions at this point. its only going to get worst for you from this point forward.

i would trade Rose. my stance hasn't changed at all. at least now you might be able to get more back as he's at least showing life.

butler is the clear cut best player on this team and I don't think he and rose make a lot of sense together.

purely from a basketball standpoint and not factoring in fans...etc....trading Rose makes a lot of sense...especially if we agree the Bulls can't win the title this year