Do the Warriors have the greatest small ball lineup of all time?

[1987_Lakers]

Curry
K. Thompson
Iggy
H. Barnes
D. Green

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Curry
K. Thompson
Iggy
H. Barnes
D. Green

Y because there isn't really much to compare them to in history.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Probably. Only other successful ones I can think of are Bosh/Battier Heat lineup and that Golden State one with Baron, Monta, and they had SJax at PF (can't remember the C...).

Oh, and of course Nash's suns. duh

[feyki]

Cousy/KC
Jones/Sharman
Hondo/Heinsohn
Sanders/Howell/Ramsey
Bill Russell

[Fudge]

Of course.

These guys are right behind them, though.

Bosh
LeBron
Battier
Wade
Chalmers

[AnaheimLakers24]

The heat had a good one. To bad they had a "small" weakness at sf

[1987_Lakers]

Cousy/KC
Jones/Sharman
Hondo/Heinsohn
Sanders/Howell/Ramsey
Bill Russell

That was an average size lineup in the 60's.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Harper/Kerr
Jordan
Pippen
Kukoc
Rodman

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

The heat had a good one. To bad they had a "small" weakness at sf
:applause: :applause: He was the only detriment to that Over Stacked Heat team. He Deteriorated the team and the success they could have achieved.

[feyki]

That was an average size lineup in the 60's.

No , Russell is 6'10 and other guys under the 6'7 . 1965 30 + minutes tallest players ;

Hawks - 6'9 Beaty and 6'9 Pettit


Royals - 6'8 Lucas and 6'8 Embry

Sixers - 7'1 Chamberlain and 6'9 Luke Jackson


Celtics - 6'10 Russell and 6'6 Sanders .

Celtics plays like , Russell at center and other guys are wings and playmakers at 60's .

[90sgoat]

Run TMC?

Tim Hardaway
Mitch Richmond
Chris Mullins

[1987_Lakers]

No , Russell is 6'10 and other guys under the 6'7 . 1965 30 + minutes tallest players ;

Hawks - 6'9 Beaty and 6'9 Pettit


Royals - 6'8 Lucas and 6'8 Embry

Sixers - 7'1 Chamberlain and 6'9 Luke Jackson


Celtics - 6'10 Russell and 6'6 Sanders .

Celtics plays like , Russell at center and other guys are wings and playmakers at 60's .

Don't give me that. Power forwards in those days were an average height of 6'6 or 6'7.

Lakers - 6'10 Wiley and LaRusso 6'7

Bullets - 6'11 Bellamy and Howell 6'7

Pistons - 7'0 Harding and DeBusschere 6'6

Most teams in those days had a big man at the 5 while everyone else on the court was 6'7 or shorter, in today's game that would be small ball, but not in the 60's.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Most likely, yea.



Harper/Kerr
Jordan
Pippen
Kukoc
Rodman

That's a great one... Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Battier/Bosh too.

Early 70's Knicks also had one of the greatest...
Frazier
Monroe
Bradley
DeBusschere
Lucas
^ Great ball-movement, great spacing, could run the break, tremendous and very versatile defense.

Showtime LA ran a great one sometimes, when Kareem was on the bench...
Magic
Scott
Cooper
Worthy
Green

1988 Sonics had a very good one when they went with...
McMillan
Ellis
McKey
X-Man
Chambers
^ Defense wasn't very good but that offense was killer.

[Hopper15]

Baron Davis
Monta Ellis
Jason Richardson
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington

Offensively this one was pretty explosive

[DMAVS41]

Probably because they can remain elite on defense (thanks to Klay, Iggy, and most of all...Green) while going small

Either them or the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman Bulls

[IGOTGAME]

Probably because they can remain elite on defense (thanks to Klay, Iggy, and most of all...Green) while going small

Either them or the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman Bulls

Other teams didn't strive for it because the rules were different.

But Jordan's Bulls would have been pretty damn good.

Harper
Jordan
Pippen
Kukoc
Rodman

big 3 Celtics would have been good too.

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Posey
Kg

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Magic at Center in 1980 to clinch the chip while the 'undisputed 2nd GOAT' was chillin' at home watching from his couch.

:roll:

[feyki]

Don't give me that. Power forwards in those days were an average height of 6'6 or 6'7.

Lakers - 6'10 Wiley and LaRusso 6'7

Bullets - 6'11 Bellamy and Howell 6'7

Pistons - 7'0 Harding and DeBusschere 6'6

Most teams in those days had a big man at the 5 while everyone else on the court was 6'7 or shorter, in today's game that would be small ball, but not in the 60's.

Red's rotations always adjusting to "Russell at center and other guys wings and playmakers " .

And 60's Celtics fastest team of the fastest era in nba history . KC-Sam-Hondo-Sanders-Bill , that's after 65 rotation ; Cousy-Sharman-Ramsey(he's 6'3)- Heinsohn-Bill , and that's before 65 rotation from Celts .

[Cali Syndicate]

Baron Davis
Monta Ellis
Jason Richardson
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington

Offensively this one was pretty explosive

Replace j rich with Barnes. That was their most successful small ball lineup

[LikeMike]

The Bulls could have ran a great small ball line-up. Lakers did too, with Magic playing C while Kareem was out.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Again, some of those early 70's Knicks squads gotta be the most underrated small-ball lineups, tbh.



Magic at Center in 1980 to clinch the chip while the 'undisputed 2nd GOAT' was chillin' at home watching from his couch.

:roll:

Yea, that's why EVEN Magic was giving Jabbar his FMVP trophy... How about in the previous 5 games when you had Magic "sitting back" while that 2nd undisputed GOAT was putting up 33.4/13.6/3.2/0.6/4.6 on 54.9/80.8 :bowdown: Closing out game5 already injured but still the one securing the win for the Lakers, giving them the 3-2 lead into that game6 :rolleyes:

Anyways, Magic was the one jumping on opening tip but the one who was really playing center was Jim Chones. Magic played plenty on the inside, posted-up, rebounded, so on... But Chones was the one who was shutting down the middle, Chones was the one who was guarding (and even containing) Philly's center Darryl Dawkins, Chones was the one who was being defended by that same center (Magic was guarded by Caldwell Jones, Dr J and Bobby Jones)...
Seriously, some people should watch games instead of just commenting and adding on to "hype-up stories".

Magic, while never being what you'd call good on defense, was a pretty versatile defensive player (due to his size/mobility), even capable of being put on lots of PF's, so on... But he couldn't go out there guarding centers LIKE Darryl Dawkins, and if they really had him playing center teams would've murdered the Lakers in the paint. Anyways, showtime Lakers ran with plenty of great small-ball lineups... Magic/Scott/Cooper/Worthy/Green being a great example, like I've stated before.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Closing out game5 already injured but still the one securing the win for the Lakers, giving them the 3-2 lead into that game6



:roll: :roll: :roll:

That's the definition of NOT securing the win, when you don't even play in the title clinching game. The title clincher IS the win that needs to be secured. You don't win any clinchers, you lose the series. Doesn't matter how much 'you're up.' You don't secure shit until YOU SECURE IT. How 'bout dem Clips. Did CP0 'secure' the win against Houston last year with that 3-1 clincher? If 3-1 isn't 'securing' the win, then 3-2 sure as hell ain't.

:facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

That's the definition of NOT securing the win, when you don't even play in the title clinching game. The title clincher IS the win that needs to be secured. You don't win any clinchers, you lose the series. Doesn't matter how much 'you're up.' You don't secure shit until YOU SECURE IT. How 'bout dem Clips. Did CP0 'secure' the win against Houston last year with that 3-1 clincher? If 3-1 isn't 'securing' the win, then 3-2 sure as hell ain't.

:facepalm


:biggums:

Nikka, what you're talking about? If Kareem doesn't play you WOULDN'T EVEN have seen that game6 from Magic, without Jabbar they most likely wouldn't have even stepped foot into the Finals nor anywhere close to it, if Kareem didn't finish game5 like he did they would've went to game6 on a 3-2 deficit... Oh, and you can bet Kareem was healing in order to even be able to come back in game7 ready to WRECK SHIT UP again.

I mean, 33.4/13.6/3.2/0.6/4.6 on 54.9/80.8 speaks for itself :bowdown:

--> I was saying that KAJ secured the win in that game5 (and the 3-2 lead)... Without him doing that, there WOULDN'T have been no title clincher in game6, the title clincher you keep talking about.
:rolleyes:

Kareem's impact over the course of the 5 games he played was greater than Magic's in the 6 games he played in, that's why EVEN Magic wanted KAJ to have the FMVP trophy...

Plus, Magic was amazing in that game6 but let's also not forget (like many do) about Wilkes with that 37/10, Cooper jumping up to the starting5 and scoring 16 points, Chones with a double-double while shutting down Darryl Dawkins and protecting the paint very well, Landsberger grabbing 10 boards... And let's also not act like Magic was the one playing center...

Anyways, you were talking about Magic playing center and whatnot... So I'm just gonna assume you don't even know what the **** you're talking about, you're mostly basing your arguments on hype and "fairy tales".

[feyki]

Wade > Magic on rim protection .

Injured (one legged) Kareem took the fifth game of the finals with 40 pts , 15 rib , 5 blk , %71 TS .

And Fmvp Magic at most critical game of the finals ;

14 pts , 15 rib , 10 ast , 10 TO , %41 TS .

Magic is overrated . He wasn't better than Bird . Give Kareem to Bird and think about it .

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Plus, Magic was amazing in that game6 but let's also not forget (like many do) about Wilkes with that 37/10, Cooper jumping up to the starting5 and scoring 16 points, Chones with a double-double while shutting down Darryl Dawkins and protecting the paint very well, Landsberger grabbing 10 boards... And let's also not act like Magic was the one playing center...

You pretty much just proved my own original point for me. That the 'undisputed 2nd GOAT' had one of, if not, the most STACKED teams of all time. Obviously Magic is the GOAT PG, but he also had other guys playing completely out of their minds as well. I really don't understand how we don't look at anything with context anymore. I mean, even through most of the 80's people considered Bird the better player. Then as time passed, people just looked at number of rings, etc and now think Magic > Bird. It's bizarre.

:biggums:

[SwishSquared]

For this era/rule set, it's probably the best and most balanced smallball lineup. Now if you could time-travel this team to play small ball against other squads in different eras/rules? That's tough.

However, if they were playing by today's rules, they could hang with any small ball unit probably. Great mix of perimeter defense, rim protection, shooting, and system.

[HoopSuperstar]

Bulls would put on this lineup:
Dennis Rodman
Toni Kukoc
Scottie Pippen
Michael Jordan
Ron Harper