Prime jordan vs prime kobe 1 on 1 who wins??

[NZStreetBaller]

We all know that jordan > kobe throughout overall career accomplishments and all time goat list.

But this would have to be the closest and most even faceoff in any one on one match. Take away the team mates and the "eras" these guys played in and they're almost equals.

They have the same moves same hunger determination competitiveness and ruthlessness.
And they were both great on defense.

Kobes lower fg% in my opinion is a result of being less willing to pass (or greedy) then jordan and more likely to take on a double team. So i do not believe that fg% is the best indicator.

Jordan does have the greater leaping ability bigger hands and power.

[SouBeachTalents]

No, they aren't even close to being equals. Jordan has significantly better achievements and stats, and for their careers outscores Kobe by nearly 10 ppg in the Finals

[Smoke117]

Better question: Who cares?...well 3ball, he'll have a 8 paragraph response for this, I'm sure.

[SpaceJam]

Porzingis

[JohnFreeman]

Jordan wins every time, Kobe never scores

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Kobe will mop the floor with that poor mans Derozan.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Dragonyeuw]

They'd take turns beating each other, is the fairest non-stan and most reasonable answer.

[Hittin_Shots]

Kobe will mop the floor with that poor mans Derozan.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Shut up Warriorfan

[imdaman99]

The viewers win.

[TheImmortal]

They'd take turns beating each other, is the fairest non-stan and most reasonable answer.
Very true. Two of the best to ever do it.. there's no wrong answer between the two.

[Quickening]

Very true. Two of the best to ever do it.. there's no wrong answer between the two.

Kobe is the wrong answer, happy to help

[ArbitraryWater]

We all know that jordan > kobe throughout overall career accomplishments and all time goat list.

But this would have to be the closest and most even faceoff in any one on one match. Take away the team mates and the "eras" these guys played in and they're almost equals.

They have the same moves same hunger determination competitiveness and ruthlessness.
And they were both great on defense.

Kobes lower fg% in my opinion is a result of being less willing to pass (or greedy) then jordan and more likely to take on a double team. So i do not believe that fg% is the best indicator.

Jordan does have the greater leaping ability bigger hands and power.

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[Prime_Shaq]

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Is that Alvin Gentry?

[ArbitraryWater]

Is that Alvin Gentry?

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[stalkerforlife]

They're very close 1 on 1.

Maybe Jordan wins 4 games to 3, but not surprising if it's the other way around.

Kobe's so skilled that he led the entire league in post up efficiency in his 17th season.

[scandisk_]

96 MJ vs Prime Kobe

wash

[Cold soul]

It would be close both would rotate beating the other 50/50 maybe slight edge to Jordan if any.

[game3524]

Kobe.

[f0und]

jordan 7 outta 10

better athlete
quicker
jumps higher
smarter
higher motor

sure once kobe gets going with his jumpshots he's unstoppable. but relying on bad shots wont cut it in the long run. jordan knew what a good shot was. he had the ability to create them and, in contrast to kobe, was willing to use them. its what allowed him to remain efficient night in and night out.

jordan is also a better competitor. and im not just talking about wanting it more. you can want it all you want but actually getting it is another matter. sure you can make mean faces, yell at people, and put in 120% effort, but unless that translates into results, it means jack *hit. jordan though, you dont *uck with him. he thrives off challenges. if you slight him in the slightest, you're *ucked. we've all heard numerous stories of how everytime someone disrespected or challenged jordan in some way, he would hand their *sses to them. jordan was *ucking ruthless. kobe on the other hand is none of that. so in this dream scenario where jordan is being challenged by low-rent jordan, im sure he'd take it personal, and itd be fuel to the fire.

[FKAri]

Jordan.

It's a bad matchup for Kobe as his long range shooting advantage won't really come into play and Jordan's physicality will come into play.

[LikeMike]

Clearly MJ

[scm5]

I would say that it's as even a match up as you'll get with Jordan.

Jordan has the physical advantage whereas Kobe has the technical advantage.

There's no doubt that MJ is the better athlete in just about every way imaginable. However, Kobe's advantage is that he grew up studying MJ's moves and perfecting them, probably better than MJ ever did.

Jordan still got better looks because he got better separation and more elevation. His huge hands probably helped as well.

Kobe was still effective because at least from a technical standpoint, Kobe had MJ's moves perfected. It's whether or not he could create the separation or elevate over his defender enough.

Why is this an advantage? Kobe studied MJ for his moves and knows all about what he's going to do and how he does it. I don't think MJ ever studied himself, he studied his opponents.

I think in this case, I would give 5.5 games out of 10 in favor of MJ.

[JebronLames]

Mike.


However, Lebron destroys both

[kennethgriffin]

prime kobe had more moves, more range, better footwork

kobe would win



kobe faced jordan type athletes his entire career... jordan didnt see another guy like him till nearly the very end of his career



besides... jordan lost 1 on 1 to this dude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k


















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[3ball]

Interviewer: "So who wins (between Kobe and MJ)??"

Phil: "Oh, it's gonna be MJ......"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClAiN9MXyc&t=2m55s

There's many more quotes from Phil - I might make a thread of all the times he said MJ > Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

Interviewer: "So who wins (between Kobe and MJ)??"

Phil: "Oh, it's gonna be MJ......"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClAiN9MXyc&t=2m55s

There are many more quotes from Phil saying MJ > Kobe... I might make a thread of all the times he said MJ > Kobe.


phil also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw


so if you take phils word for him beating kobe 1 on 1. then you must also agree kobes more skilled

[3ball]

Interviewer: "So who wins (between Kobe and MJ)??"

Phil: "Oh, it's gonna be MJ......"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClAiN9MXyc&t=2m55s

There's many more quotes from Phil - I might make a thread of all the times he said MJ > Kobe.


Of course, MJ would destroy Lebron much worse, especially considering Kyrie destroyed Lebron repeatedly 1-on-1:

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/11/22/reportspin-from-cleveland-kyrie-irving-destroyed-lebron-1-on-1/

[Mass Debator]

The one thing for sure is that they'd both beat prime Lebron. Kyrie says so

[3ball]

phil also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw


so if you take phils word for him beating kobe 1 on 1. then you must also agree kobes more skilled



MJ's overall combination of skill/athleticism is far greater than Kobe's...

That's why MJ achieved Kobe's career stats at 39 years old (25/5/5)..

This was during game #41 of 2002 season:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-24-2015/bQujRx.gif

[Rocketswin2013]

Of course, MJ would destroy Lebron much worse, especially considering Kyrie destroyed Lebron repeatedly 1-on-1:

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/11/22/reportspin-from-cleveland-kyrie-irving-destroyed-lebron-1-on-1/
LeBron > Scott Burrell > Jordan

[kennethgriffin]

MJ's overall combination of skill/athleticism is far greater than Kobe's...

That's why MJ achieved Kobe's career stats at 39 years old (25/5/5)..

This was during game #41 of 2002 season:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-24-2015/bQujRx.gif

dude. you referenced a phil quote

so did i

now you reverse to some other shit and backpeddle like a little f*ggot

make up your mind

and if kobe was playing in his 14th season at age 39 with a fully intact achilles. yeah he'd do quite a bit better than he is right now

[NZStreetBaller]

Didnt jordan himself admit that he could beat anyone except kobe?? (Because he steals my moves)

[Fedor - Laker]

L:ol @ anyone thinking Kobe is even remotely on the same level as Jordan.

Curry > Kobe FFS

[nnn123]

phil also said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw


so if you take phils word for him beating kobe 1 on 1. then you must also agree kobes more skilled


I always LOL when people post this interview.

"Phil, do you agree that Kobe has better basketball skills than MJ"

"Um....mhm.....cough....(10 second pause)....he does.." Then he goes on for the next 2 minutes to talk about how awesome MJ is :lol

This interview occured back in 2006 or 2007 when he was actively COACHING Kobe.

Anyone with a brain should be able to realize that his most recent interviews give a better representation of what his true feelings between the MJ and Kobe comparison are. He is no longer coaching neither player so there is no bullsh!t involved

[Dragonyeuw]

I always LOL when people post this interview.

"Phil, do you agree that Kobe has better basketball skills than MJ"

"Um....mhm.....cough....(10 second pause)....he does.." Then he goes on for the next 2 minutes to talk about how awesome MJ is :lol

This interview occured back in 2006 or 2007 when he was actively COACHING Kobe.

Anyone with a brain should be able to realize that his most recent interviews give a better representation of what his true feelings between the MJ and Kobe comparison are. He is no longer coaching neither player so there is no bullsh!t involved

Phil has always been clear about MJ and Kobes differences, not only in that interview but several since he stopped coaching.

[AirFederer]

Kobe will mop the floor with that poor mans Derozan.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
https://media.giphy.com/media/oKQW9bVVyalGg/giphy.gif

[plowking]

Who cares? Neither is close to being the best one on one player.

Taller and longer players would beat them both. Garnett, Griffin, Nance, etc would all handle them. PF's dominate these matchups.

[Quickening]

Who cares? Neither is close to being the best one on one player.

Taller and longer players would beat them both. Garnett, Griffin, Nance, etc would all handle them. PF's dominate these matchups.
People are clueless, they think flashy handles win 1v1 match ups

[kennethgriffin]

I always LOL when people post this interview.

"Phil, do you agree that Kobe has better basketball skills than MJ"

"Um....mhm.....cough....(10 second pause)....he does.." Then he goes on for the next 2 minutes to talk about how awesome MJ is :lol

This interview occured back in 2006 or 2007 when he was actively COACHING Kobe.

Anyone with a brain should be able to realize that his most recent interviews give a better representation of what his true feelings between the MJ and Kobe comparison are. He is no longer coaching neither player so there is no bullsh!t involved


all phil ever gives MJ over kobe is bigger hands and leadership from day 1

[kennethgriffin]

Who cares? Neither is close to being the best one on one player.

Taller and longer players would beat them both. Garnett, Griffin, Nance, etc would all handle them. PF's dominate these matchups.


the tall guys lose 1 on 1s routinely at the local ymca


the smaller guys just toy with them while the bigger guys have to give them 2-3 feet of separation due to not wanting to get blown by

most of the time it turns into an easy wide open shot at the top of the key near the foul line

when bigs come out farther than that they give up layups


and when the big gets the ball on offense the smaller guy basically forces them to shoot cause they foul the big guy on every post up back down move trying to strip the ball


so they gotta put up with it or call the foul and start back at the top again.

theres no foul outs in 1 on 1 so bigs sooner or later gotta settle for a long range shot or try something else

[Quickening]

the tall guys lose 1 on 1s routinely at the local ymca


the smaller guys just toy with them while the bigger guys have to give them 2-3 feet of separation due to not wanting to get blown by

most of the time it turns into an easy wide open shot at the top of the key near the foul line

when bigs come out farther than that they give up layups


and when the big gets the ball on offense the smaller guy basically forces them to shoot cause they foul the big guy on every post up back down move trying to strip the ball


so they gotta put up with it or call the foul and start back at the top again.

theres no foul outs in 1 on 1 so bigs sooner or later gotta settle for a long range shot or try something else

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