City of Chicago will be full of riots this week.

[longhornfan1234]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/mayor-to-meet-with-activists-ahead-of-mcdonald-video-release/1096002/


According to those who have seen it, the video from Oct. 20, 2014, shows McDonald walking away from police when one officer opened fire. His back was turned towards the white officer when he was shot 16 times. Five other responding officers showed restraint in the video. McDonald had a small knife.

The officer who shot McDonald is still on the job on desk duty while the city completes its investigation into the shooting.

One group of young black organizers affiliated with several grassroots organizations, including Black Lives Matter: Chicago, declined the mayor's meeting offer.

Nearly 200 community leaders called for peace Saturday as the city prepares for the video's release. Many fear the video might spark riots similar to those seen in other parts of the country.

Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez says a decision is expected this week on whether on chare the officer in McDonald's shooting. She says she is not opposing the release of the video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2N6_jLAgA&feature=youtu.be


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Video of the shooting.

[longhornfan1234]

https://images.newrepublic.com/bf3d11aa7260340ba3e12172c58d0c3721089e32.png?w=800


4 shots in the back and back of the arm. The City will be on fire by the weekend.

[UK2K]

They'll only burn their own neighborhoods...

So its all good.

[longhornfan1234]

They'll only burn their own neighborhoods...

So its all good.
:lol :lol so true.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I guess the obvious question is, did the kid still have the knife in his hand and was he advancing in the direction of other people when he was shot. A cop can still use lethal force if other people safety is at risk.

[longhornfan1234]

I guess the obvious question is, did the kid still have the knife in his hand and was he advancing in the direction of other people when he was shot. A cop can still use lethal force if other people safety is at risk.

I believe he still had the knife in his hand, he turned away from the cop, and the cop dropped him with bullets.

[HitandRun Reggie]

You already know where the media is going with this.


http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Laquan-at-graduation-3-12-15.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/22/1408712267822_wps_2_fine_to_crop.jpg

[longhornfan1234]

You already know where the media is going with this.


http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Laquan-at-graduation-3-12-15.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/22/1408712267822_wps_2_fine_to_crop.jpg


The gentle giant... :bowdown: :bowdown:

[UK2K]

I guess the obvious question is, did the kid still have the knife in his hand and was he advancing in the direction of other people when he was shot. A cop can still use lethal force if other people safety is at risk.

If I was carrying a gun without a holster, first place I'd keep it is tucked in my waistband.

Easiest way to pull it out, is to turn your back.

Haven't seen the video so it sounds liked the cops were in the wrong but... here we have another example of a future astronaut who thought the law doesn't apply to him. What else s new. Kid would be alive right now had he behaved like the people in 99.9% of all other police interactions.

Oh well.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I believe he still had the knife in his hand, he turned away from the cop, and the cop dropped him with bullets.

IF there were civilians near McDonald and he was heading their direction with the knife, the shooting is not only justified but probably a textbook use of force for protecting the public.

Lets wait for the details, but I know the looters/Black Lives Matter groups wont....

[NumberSix]

So..... This will be the one black life that anybody in Chicago will care about?

[rezznor]

So..... This will be the one black life that anybody in Chicago will care about?
this

[longhornfan1234]

IF there were civilians near McDonald and he was heading their direction with the knife, the shooting is not only justified but probably a textbook use of force for protecting the public.

Lets wait for the details, but I know the looters/Black Lives Matter groups wont....



The video will out by Wednesday. There's definitely going to be riots.

[longhornfan1234]

Cop in Chicago who shot 17 year old McDonald charged with murder.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/us/laquan-mcdonald-chicago-shooting-video/index.html

[Nick Young]

Why did McDonald have a knife out in front of police officers?

Authorities say McDonald, 17, was armed with a 4-inch knife when Van Dyke, who is white, confronted him. The teen did not comply with "numerous police orders to drop the knife," the officer's lawyer, Daniel Herbert, told the Chicago Tribune, when Van Dyke opened fire. McDonald died after being shot 16 times.

Why didn't Mcdonald drop the knife when the police officers asked him to?

[DeuceWallaces]

So..... This will be the one black life that anybody in Chicago will care about?

Just because you don't watch the news or read the Chicago Tribune doesn't mean this is the only story about a black person's death that's of concern to the community.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm afraid these heathens want more than just a murder charge. Some of these protesters look like animal savages that want blood. Stay safe, Chicago.

Obama's wasteland.

[KevinNYC]

Haven't seen the video so it sounds liked the cops were in the wrong but...

Sounds like a cop, not cops. The other cops did not fire. I assume that would be one of the first things the prosecutors would look at.

[UK2K]

Sounds like a cop, not cops. The other cops did not fire. I assume that would be one of the first things the prosecutors would look at.

I didn't see the video yet, nor do I know the story. I read he was shot 16 times (?), which is what you carry in your mag plus one in the pipe, so unless this one officer unloaded every bullet he had, someone else had to have shot.

It's a gray area. The kid turned his back, which, in the eyes of our civilian police investigators, makes this murder. But, its gray. Like when Taliban fighters could unload all their ammo at me, and then sit their gun down, and all of sudden I can no longer shoot at them. Should I shoot at a Taliban fighter who was just now shooting at me, even though by law, technically he is a non-combatant now? Choose wisely, your life and your freedom depend on it.

One of those things. If I had anyone at gun point and they turned their back on me, the first thing I would think is 'he's drawing a weapon out of his waistband'. And I could be right 100 times, but the one time I am wrong, its murder. Or the one time I don't think that and I'm wrong, I'm dead.

Stressful job full of life and death (or career death depending on what angle the video is shot at) that I am glad I don't have to do.

[UK2K]

Why did McDonald have a knife out in front of police officers?


Why didn't Mcdonald drop the knife when the police officers asked him to?

Because the law doesn't apply to him. That's why he's dead now. I would say 'he'll learn for next time' but... he won't. Because there won't be a next time, not that he'd learn anyway.

[nathanjizzle]

i hope there are no protests, that would be embarrassingly hypocritical by the black community. :roll:

[UK2K]

Tell me I did not just read this kid was high as phuk on PCP.

Tell me he wasnt.

Cause if he was.... another case of 'black man don't know da law cause he tripping bawls' and ends up dead.

Like I said, haven't seen the video, but I know shooting in the back is a no no (to lawyers and the public, not in actual situations ), but from the description it sounded like murder.

Tell me this guy wasn't on PCP, with a knife in his hands, ignoring lawful orders.

[Nick Young]

Why was McDonald brandishing a knife around police officers while high on PCP? :confusedshrug:

[UK2K]

Yep, he was:


Police say McDonald had PCP in his system when he died and was refusing police commands to drop a 4-inch knife.

17 year old kid, high on PCP, with a knife, and an officer is being charged with murder for dropping him after he turned his back.

I'd have shot him too. You see the dude in Cincy high on PCP they shot 19 times and he still charged officers? You know insurgents use the same shit so if they sustain catastrophic injuries, they don't feel it and can continue fighting.

**** that. Kid played stupid games, and he won stupid prizes.

[DeuceWallaces]

Dude wasn't even walking up to the officers. They just gunned him down in the street. No taze, no more than a couple seconds to even try and talk to him. Skipping around in the street with a folded up knife.

[NumberSix]

This is very disappointing. I actually thought the police were going to be legit on this, but it looks like they're rigging it for their cop buddy to get off.

Why would you charge this guy with 1st degree murder? You know damn well he won't be convicted.

[longhornfan1234]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-dash-cam-video-shows-police-shooting-laquan-mcdonald/1098065/


Here's the video.


There's definitely going to riots. The video is hard to watch.

[NumberSix]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-dash-cam-video-shows-police-shooting-laquan-mcdonald/1098065/


Here's the video.


There's definitely going to riots. The video is hard to watch.
What do you mean? They don't even show it.

[AceManIII]

Chiraq on full alert this week

[longhornfan1234]

What do you mean? They don't even show it.

Ha my bad... I linked the wrong link.

https://youtu.be/Ix2N6_jLAgA

Skip to 5:20

[longhornfan1234]

Chiraq on full alert this week


It's going down this weekend.

[dude77]

incoming chimp out chiraq style

[KevinNYC]

This is very disappointing. I actually thought the police were going to be legit on this, but it looks like they're rigging it for their cop buddy to get off.

Why would you charge this guy with 1st degree murder? You know damn well he won't be convicted.

1st degree murder has the lesser included charge of 2nd degree murder in Illinois.

The defendant is charged with the offense of first degree murder. The defendant has pleaded not guilty. Under the law, a person charged with first degree murder may be found (1) not guilty of first degree murder; or (2) guilty of first degree murder; or (3) guilty of second degree murder.

Since you have to account for every shot you take, first degree murder should apply.

Guy at multiple previous complaints. (http://abc7chicago.com/news/at-least-18-complaints-filed-against-cpd-officer-now-charged-with-murder-/1098265/)

AT LEAST 18 COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST CPD OFFICER JASON VAN DYKE, NOW CHARGED WITH MURDER

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wish there were audio on the tape.

Either way, though, the cop was in the wrong. Shooting a kid 17 times going in the opposite direction in an empty street. :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

Could have taken him down without the use of excessive force but I doubt the cop will get convicted for this.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Yeah after seeing the video it was clearly a bad shoot. Oh well, a bad cop off the street and a Darwin Award winner...given posthumously of course.

[longhornfan1234]

Here the Illinois first degree murder standard

A person commits First Degree Murder when:

(a) they kill an individual without lawful justification if, in performing the acts which cause the death:

(1) they either intend to kill or do great bodily harm to that individual or another, or know that such acts will cause death to that individual or another; or

(2) they know that such acts create a strong probability of death or great bodily harm to that individual or another; or

(3) they are committing, or attempting to commit, a forcible felony other than second degree murder.


I'm no lawyer... but maybe it is premeditated first degree murder.


Any legal minds?

[KevinNYC]

Here the Illinois first degree murder standard

A person commits First Degree Murder when:

(a) they kill an individual without lawful justification if, in performing the acts which cause the death:

(1) they either intend to kill or do great bodily harm to that individual or another, or know that such acts will cause death to that individual or another; or

(2) they know that such acts create a strong probability of death or great bodily harm to that individual or another; or

(3) they are committing, or attempting to commit, a forcible felony other than second degree murder.


I'm no lawyer... but maybe it is premeditated first degree murder.


Any legal minds?Going to be pretty hard for his lawyer to argue he didn't know that firing every bullet in his clip might cause great bodily harm to someone.