View Full Version : Your Most Disappointing Movies Of All Time
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 06:41 PM
What movies were you most personally excited about, i.e. following production, casting news, etc. then went to the theater opening night or close to, only to be massively disappointed?? Before ppl post the obvious internet sentiments, the Star Wars prequels weren't that for me. In fact, I remember liking them all in the theater except Episode II.
For me, a few stand out
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Wow, the villains were dumb, the acting became laughable from McGuire and Franco. Dunst was just a dunce, and I remember being uncomfortable during scenes to the point I didn't want ppl close to me at all (singing lounge scene). I really can't stand this movie to this day and I knew it was all downhill once the symbiote randomly showed up and attacthed to Peter instead of being brought back by Jameson's son.
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Sure some of the writing of RZ's Halloween is bad and it's very different from Carpenter's tonally and thematically but I still think Zombie's first is a good horror movie in it's own right. I was pretty interested in seeing where he went from the ending of *spoiler* Laurie blasting Michael in the face. However, the sequel is one of the worst things I've ever seen. Just a disgusting movie with zero pleasure to be gained from tension, suspense, mystery. It's just gross and unappealing and feels nothing like Halloween.
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I love the Gene Wilder version and was really excited for another version. When they announced Johnny Depp as Wonka, it seemed to fit like a glove. Everything in pre production was lining up but then the first images and trailers were coming out and it was like :biggums: 'What Did They Do To the Wholesome Quirky Joy that was WW & The Chocolate Factory?'
While I did like a few elements of the movie, the art direction OUTSIDE of the factory and Freddie Highmore as Charlie, this movie was a massive disappointment. Depp sucked and Burton took his schtick too far as to making the things people love about the story unrecognizable.
Finally, probably the worst offender of them all.
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:facepalm :facepalm
This movie broke my 15 year old heart. I was in denial for a couple weeks that I disliked it as much as I did.
It would have been different if Terminator wasn't such a big part of my childhood and imagination. The first two were and are LEGENDARY in my mind. They told a sci fi story that while outrageous, was actually not ridiculous and this was because of the writing and characterizations from Cameron. These movies are very human, had heart, were menacing, had a focused tone and were all around just some of the best achievements in engaging creativity known to man.
Terminator 3 took all this and wrecked it into having lukewarm tone, stupid attempts at humor, a dumb villain, terrible casting (who in their right mind thought Nick Stahl could ever channel the John we were told about?). It also went away from the gravity and weight that the fictional robots/cyborgs seemed to carry in the first two which made the movies felt somewhat plausible. Now these muh ****ers were CGI fights throwing each other 40 feet and getting away from any realism that Cameron's super-powered skeletons had. The franchise became a joke starting here. The ending was somewhat poignant but also detracts from the main message of the first two, particularly T2. (There is No Fate But What We Make For Ourselves)
This movie isn't the worst movie ever made but just so massively disappointing in relation to my personal anticipation and a major step down for the franchise. In fact, it didn't feel like Jonathan Mostow ever 'got' Terminator the way most of the fanbase did.
That's just a couple of mine. What are some of the most disappointing movies you guys experienced? I don't mean the worst ones just ones you felt some kind of personal connection to that made you feel empty and cycnical upon leaving the the-a-ter.
Duderonomy
11-24-2015, 07:01 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk (2003)
The Phantom Menace (1999)
Fantastic four (all 3 sucked) I might not even rent the 3 one. :oldlol:
imdaman99
11-24-2015, 07:04 PM
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Battlefield Earth (2000) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185183/?ref_=nv_sr_1
My friend to this day still hypes this movie up as if it's one of the greatest movies ever... :lol
Duderonomy
11-24-2015, 07:14 PM
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Battlefield Earth (2000) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185183/?ref_=nv_sr_1
My friend to this day still hypes this movie up as if it's one of the greatest movies ever... :lol
My dad took me to a lot of stinkers as a kid Godzilla (1998) Lost in Space, and Armageddon. :facepalm
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 07:20 PM
Yea Ang Lee's HULK was def a chore to get through in the theater.
Shit tried to be all complex but really just had poor pacing
Achilleas
11-24-2015, 07:26 PM
green latern :banghead: :rant
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 07:27 PM
Shit I've never even seen Green Lantern. The CGI green mask in the promos made me uncomfortable.
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 07:32 PM
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Battlefield Earth (2000) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185183/?ref_=nv_sr_1
My friend to this day still hypes this movie up as if it's one of the greatest movies ever... :lol
Does your friend have all of his mental faculties?
I respect the subjectivity of movie watching but, that movie is one of the most poorly done modern Hollywood movies one can see
Tarik One
11-24-2015, 07:37 PM
Blade: Trinity
The whole Blade vs Dracula had me pumped. Movie was a dud
HenryGarfunkle
11-24-2015, 07:45 PM
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ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 07:55 PM
What made Dawn of the Apes a disappointment?
I thought it was at least as good as the original
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 07:57 PM
Blade: Trinity
The whole Blade vs Dracula had me pumped. Movie was a dud
Yea I remember how lame Dracula fight was.
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/drake1.jpg
This is Dracula? :facepalm
SexSymbol
11-24-2015, 08:01 PM
Godfather 2. Godfather 1 is a masterpiece, meanwhile the second one is pure shit of boring dialogue and unoriginal storytelling, half of the movies is watchable, the other half sucks.
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
HenryGarfunkle
11-24-2015, 08:02 PM
Godfather 2. Godfather 1 is a masterpiece, meanwhile the second one is pure shit of boring dialogue and unoriginal storytelling, half of the movies is watchable, the other half sucks.
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
You gotta be ****ing kidding me dude, that movie was a masterpiece from start to finish
DeuceWallaces
11-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Godfather 2. Godfather 1 is a masterpiece, meanwhile the second one is pure shit of boring dialogue and unoriginal storytelling, half of the movies is watchable, the other half sucks.
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
:rolleyes:
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 08:03 PM
So I take it you like the De Niro throwback parts of GFII?
dazzer87
11-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Godfather 2. Godfather 1 is a masterpiece, meanwhile the second one is pure shit of boring dialogue and unoriginal storytelling, half of the movies is watchable, the other half sucks.
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
Location: Kaunas, Lithuania
HenryGarfunkle
11-24-2015, 08:04 PM
What made Dawn of the Apes a disappointment?
I thought it was at least as good as the original
It was a disappointment for me, I just didn't like the cast or the feel of it
DeuceWallaces
11-24-2015, 08:05 PM
Location: Kaunas, Lithuania
Lol, they probably both just came out there. He's been reading about them for 30 years. Didn't live up to the hype :oldlol: .
plowking
11-24-2015, 08:32 PM
I've never been able to get into Star Wars, but I just recently started watching them again, and I never understood the hate. I quite enjoy them this time around, apart from episode I. The dialogue is quite bad at times, but the story in episode II and III are quite good.
Aside from that, I though San Andreas was terrible. I always get amped up for movied with Dwayne Johnson, but it was particularly boring.
The last Planet of the Apes movie had me bored too. Not sure why...
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 08:45 PM
I think I still like Episode One but haven't seen it in a while.
The Pod Race to Freedom had some good gravity and I'm a sucker for any mother-son drama.
The second half isn't as good but I like all the parts of Obi Wan-Qui Gon on Tattoine
Giaodollo
11-24-2015, 08:46 PM
Insurgent and to a lesser degree Divergent.
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 08:49 PM
I'll assume you read the novels, which made the movies disappointments? You were already invested in the plot
Giaodollo
11-24-2015, 08:54 PM
I'll assume you read the novels, which made the movies disappointments? You were already invested in the plot
Yep.
People naming the recent Planet of the Apes movies have forgotten this one:
http://i.imgur.com/MDRObAz.jpg
Oh boy, that must have been a heart breaker for the fans of the original movie.
Recently Interstellar would make a strong contender. Highly anticipated as a serious Sci-fi movie, with actual "super science theory" behind it. The 2001 killer from Nolan, his masterpiece. Turns out it's a shallow, schlocky melodrama with incredibly poorly written characters. But the premise was cool and it looked real pretty on the big screen at least.
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 09:37 PM
Good Call on the Burton Planet of the Apes.
I have to say, now looking back on all the movies I've been pumped about to hit theater, that is up there for me too. I grew up watching the original series when I was young, they made an immediate impression.
My mom and dad took me to see that one in the theater and we all were like WTF at the end. The whole movie is pretty bland. I honestly hate Mark Wahlburg as an actor unless it's a comedy or he's a badass with good writing like Departed. Dude should never play anybody whose supposed to be intelligent, astronaut, scientist, engineer, teacher. All terrible roles for him.
Burton's Planet of the Apes was a major bummer except for Tim Roth. I know the ending to this movie was close to what the novel's was, but that shit was cringeworthy on screen.
Ape Lincoln?
DCPD Apes with pistols? SMH
Jailblazers7
11-24-2015, 09:41 PM
I'm already mentally preparing myself for Blade Runner 2 to be my answer to this question.
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 09:57 PM
The parts are in place to be pretty damn good
Denis Villanueve, Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford. Gosling fits this universe very well
So far, so good. Script notwithstanding
Jailblazers7
11-24-2015, 09:59 PM
The parts are in place to be pretty damn good
Denis Villanueve, Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford. Gosling fits this universe very well
So far, so good. Script notwithstanding
Yeah, I agree but Blade Runner just feels like one of those movies that should never have a sequel. But I still can't wait to see how it turns out tho.
ThePhantomCreep
11-24-2015, 11:07 PM
The Phantom Menace, by far.
The hype for this film was every bit as massive as it is for Force Awaken. Unbelievable anticipation.
Unfortunately, the film was a plateful of gnarly ass.
T_L_P
11-24-2015, 11:36 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
You're going to be severely disappointed in Kubrick's films - and a lot of cannonised movies - if you look at them as simply 'plots and acting'.
2001 isn't about villains or storytelling. It's Kubrick trying to portray the cold, out-of-Earth future he envisioned with measured pacing, stale acting and dialogue, mechanical camera movements and a very distinct colour palette. If anything HAL is the most human character in the entire film.
Regarding the ending: it reminds me a lot of the final words of T.S. Elliot's 'The Hollow Men'
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
But for others the ending is a sign of hope. That's one of the things that makes it so great.
---
Anyway, for me the most disappointing move was Schindler's List. All through my life I heard about how 'honest' and 'brave' the film was, but it really wasn't. And that's a shame because it's really the only Holocaust film that modern audiences payed attention to (along with the Pianist). Some of the scenes (the shower scene, the girl in the red coat, Schindler's final cry, the end colour scene where the actors and survivors visit Schindler's real-life grave) are unacceptable for a film of its kind. But people overlook this because it told a sad story and it made them cry.
ROCSteady
11-24-2015, 11:38 PM
I think there were many 'hits' in The Phantom Menace.
A lot of the good elements tend to be massively overshadowed by poor ones
Smook A.
11-25-2015, 12:10 AM
Aside from the cheesy dance scene and the stupid freakout Peter had, Spiderman 3 was actually a pretty damn good movie. Though the ending could've been MUCH better.
Town's Town
11-25-2015, 12:31 AM
Episode I
ROCSteady
11-25-2015, 12:34 AM
Aside from the cheesy dance scene and the stupid freakout Peter had, Spiderman 3 was actually a pretty damn good movie. Though the ending could've been MUCH better.
It was terrible.
Go back and watch the scenes of MJ and Harry after Harry gets amnesia or whatever in the hospital.
:facepalm
Seen better acting in MOWs.
There's worse overall movies but it was pretty disappointing coming off the Doc Ock movie
KyrieTheFuture
11-25-2015, 12:48 AM
Spectre is the most recent example, Interstellar moreso however.
ArbitraryWater
11-25-2015, 01:49 PM
Godfather 2. Godfather 1 is a masterpiece, meanwhile the second one is pure shit of boring dialogue and unoriginal storytelling, half of the movies is watchable, the other half sucks.
2001: A Space Odyssey. A completely retarded movie that only got it's recognition for special effects. Hal is a serviceable villain, but that's pretty much it. One of the worst movie endings ever, and one of the most boring openings ever.
:lol
BlazerRed
11-25-2015, 02:12 PM
Just watched Mad Max: Fury Road last night, and that definitely deserves a mention AS THE BEST FILM OF THE YEAR!
JohnnySic
11-25-2015, 02:20 PM
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^Could have been a bloody gorefest like the video game. Instead, they made a kid's movie. :durantunimpressed:
ArbitraryWater
11-25-2015, 02:21 PM
can you not stretch the page?
JohnnySic
11-25-2015, 02:24 PM
can you not stretch the page?
Fixed.
Shade8780
11-25-2015, 02:36 PM
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that name :roll: :roll: :roll:
Shade8780
11-25-2015, 02:38 PM
I think there were many 'hits' in The Phantom Menace.
A lot of the good elements tend to be massively overshadowed by poor ones
no. it's a piece of crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&list=PL5919C8DE6F720A2D
ArbitraryWater
11-25-2015, 02:38 PM
Fixed.
didnt even mention the name of the movie in your edit :oldlol: thx tho
Lebowsky
11-25-2015, 02:44 PM
I'm already mentally preparing myself for Blade Runner 2 to be my answer to this question.
There is no way in hell I'm watching that one. I refuse to have both one of my favorite novels and one of my favorite films ruined at the same time.
Legends66NBA7
11-25-2015, 02:45 PM
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EDIT - While it isn't THAT bad, it's not a masterpiece that the novel was. I thought this movie could have been at the very least a Top 10 all-time comic book movie.
dazzer87
11-25-2015, 02:47 PM
Great Cast and amazing Director...How could this be so bad.......
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Shade8780
11-25-2015, 02:51 PM
I'm already mentally preparing myself for Blade Runner 2 to be my answer to this question.
It seems like a really unnecessary sequel, but it has Denis Villeneuve directing (the same guy that made Sicario, Prisoners and Incendies), one of the original co-writers of Blade Runner back, Roger Deakins handling cinematography, and then Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford as leads. It could honestly be an amazing film.
I really wouldn't be interested in it, but with that cast/crew, and it being the apparent "best script [Ford] has ever had", I'm hopeful.
outbreak
11-25-2015, 05:15 PM
Just watched Mad Max: Fury Road last night, and that definitely deserves a mention AS THE BEST FILM OF THE YEAR!
:coleman:
Mad max was great and very in line with the road warrior.
For me it's episode 1, indianna jones 4, prometheus (I didn't mind it but definite let down as an alien fan), transformers (could have been so good but was so bad), TNMT (another horrible reboot that sucked ass and could have been great).
On a lesser level for me personally I'd add the matrix and kill bill. Can't see why people think either of those franchises is any good.
EDIT: You got me good there congratulations lol
Shade8780
11-25-2015, 05:16 PM
:coleman:
Mad max was great and very in line with the road warrior.
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ROCSteady
11-25-2015, 05:26 PM
Good things about Star Wars Episode One:
1. Obi-Wan Qui Gon dynamic
2. Anakin-Shmi foundation
3. Pod Race To Freedom
4. Jedi Council's leery nature of Anakin
5. Darth Maul
6. The foundation for Palpatine
All of these elements were decent-good for the first prequel movie
SexSymbol
11-25-2015, 05:27 PM
You're going to be severely disappointed in Kubrick's films - and a lot of cannonised movies - if you look at them as simply 'plots and acting'.
2001 isn't about villains or storytelling. It's Kubrick trying to portray the cold, out-of-Earth future he envisioned with measured pacing, stale acting and dialogue, mechanical camera movements and a very distinct colour palette. If anything HAL is the most human character in the entire film.
Regarding the ending: it reminds me a lot of the final words of T.S. Elliot's 'The Hollow Men'
But for others the ending is a sign of hope. That's one of the things that makes it so great.
---
Anyway, for me the most disappointing move was Schindler's List. All through my life I heard about how 'honest' and 'brave' the film was, but it really wasn't. And that's a shame because it's really the only Holocaust film that modern audiences payed attention to (along with the Pianist). Some of the scenes (the shower scene, the girl in the red coat, Schindler's final cry, the end colour scene where the actors and survivors visit Schindler's real-life grave) are unacceptable for a film of its kind. But people overlook this because it told a sad story and it made them cry.
That's because acting in 2001 was atrocious even by that time's standards.
This movie is only appreciated for it's technical achievements. It basically transformers of 1960, all style, absolutely no substance
SexSymbol
11-25-2015, 05:28 PM
btw, monuments men should get a mention here. One of the best casts on paper ever
Patrick Chewing
11-25-2015, 05:34 PM
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ROCSteady
11-25-2015, 05:36 PM
Can't see your first one but Exodus def had some eye brow raising moments
Patrick Chewing
11-25-2015, 05:56 PM
Can't see your first one but Exodus def had some eye brow raising moments
Noah
outbreak
11-25-2015, 06:44 PM
Did ANYONE think exodus would be good though?
gigantes
11-25-2015, 07:09 PM
lost in translation-- the title alone is a great premise. as in, all the little ways we misunderstand each other even when speaking the same language. there should be a whole film festival devoted to that concept. unfortunately this movie had very little to do with that concept and was more a novelty film, showing off bill murray's suave / amusing presence, scarlett jo's adorable / innocent beauty, bits and pieces of tokyo life... and not much else. pleasant film and all, but not remotely as good as its rep.
tintin-- probably a great film if you've never seen the indiana jones trilogy, but it borrowed too much from them for me to really enjoy it. otherwise an expertly-crafted film that DID do a lot of justice to the famous cartoon character.
ender's game-- it's one of my favorite sci-fi books, so i had high hopes. unfortunately the movie just kind of dragged on, the characters weren't all that likeable or memorable, and it was over-produced like many a modern sci-fi film. halfway through, i was longing for the book so much that i just turned it off. by contrast, an example of a fairly modern scifi film i thought was superb was "gattaca." instead of getting too wrapped up in the tech and the production on that one, they focused more on the story and the psychology of a genetic loser lying his ass off to take the place of a real astronaut.
tron II-- loved the original. incredibly inventive, charming and good-looking for 1980. the sequel obviously had the better graphics, but really nothing else. every last bit of charm and humor was missing in this one.
but yeah i'm a tough judge of movies and... thread title.
Jailblazers7
11-25-2015, 08:16 PM
Enders Game is a good call. It was always going to be difficult to pull of tho since the book was all about his inner psychology/monologue.
Gattaca was definitely fantastic tho. One of the most satisfying climaxes that I can remember.
lost in translation-- the title alone is a great premise. as in, all the little ways we misunderstand each other even when speaking the same language. there should be a whole film festival devoted to that concept. unfortunately this movie had very little to do with that concept and was more a novelty film, showing off bill murray's suave / amusing presence, scarlett jo's adorable / innocent beauty, bits and pieces of tokyo life... and not much else. pleasant film and all, but not remotely as good as its rep.
Good one. I once read someone argue that the reason this movie reviewed so well was because professional movie critics can relate really well to the "midlife crisis having middle-aged man experiences crush on a young goddess half his age" premise, especially when wrapped in a classy package like this.
Same with American Beauty.
ArbitraryWater
11-25-2015, 09:49 PM
Good one. I once read someone argue that the reason this movie reviewed so well was because professional movie critics can relate really well to the "midlife crisis having middle-aged man experiences crush on a young goddess half his age" premise, especially when wrapped in a classy package like this.
Same with American Beauty.
American Beauty was very good though :applause:
Never watched LIT
Smoke117
11-25-2015, 10:18 PM
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Snake was still a great character (and one of my favorites), but the whole tone of this movie was backwards compared to the original. The first WORKED because it actually took itself seriously and there was drama and tension. This sequel was just a cheeseball fest. The horrible cgi, the shitty villain, the god damn wave surfing scene (:facepalm )...Snake and the ending is the only reason I don't completely condemn the movie.
gigantes
11-25-2015, 10:28 PM
Good one. I once read someone argue that the reason this movie reviewed so well was because professional movie critics can relate really well to the "midlife crisis having middle-aged man experiences crush on a young goddess half his age" premise, especially when wrapped in a classy package like this.
Same with American Beauty.
interesting. makes some sense, although i'd like to think that the better critics wouldn't fall for that 'trick'. i'm sure ebert wouldn't have, anyway.
american beauty grabbed me a lot more, tho. instead of the wistful longing of LIT, you had characters going through more soul-searching and desperation and stuff. whole lives and futures turned on the scenes we saw. also, as much as i enjoy bill murray, kevin spacey's performance was even more magnetic and riveting.
SugarHill
11-25-2015, 10:40 PM
Good one. I once read someone argue that the reason this movie reviewed so well was because professional movie critics can relate really well to the "midlife crisis having middle-aged man experiences crush on a young goddess half his age" premise, especially when wrapped in a classy package like this.
Same with American Beauty.
it's also shot really well and has great atmosphere and soundtrack so that kinda helps
NBAplayoffs2001
11-26-2015, 12:44 AM
Too many to list lol. :oldlol:
WayOfWade
11-26-2015, 07:26 PM
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