Bird will always have more respect from tru hoopheads than MJ/Bran, no statpadding

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

For his PURE skill, dedication, focus, intelligence, ruthlessness. The REAL hoop heads, not the casuals that watch for drama/celebrity shit and bandwagon athletic guys.

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"During breaks in games, Jordan has been wandering over to the scorer`s table to get updates on how many rebounds, assists and points he needs to fill his three double-figure quotas.

"The guys at the scorer`s desk let me know what I need," he said. "They tell me, `You need three assists; you need two rebounds."

Jordan also has been double-checking the figures with Chicago assistants.

"They keep me in tune," he said. "They keep reminding me when I come back to the huddle, how much I need."

Last Sunday, at home against New Jersey, the 10th assist was Jordan`s final goal.

"I knew I had nine assists," he said, "and I looked at (forward) Brad (Sellers), and said, `Brad, can I count on you for my 10th?` And he said, `yeah` and hit a jumper from the baseline."

Bird had 30/12/10/9 in 33 minutes against the Jazz on February 18, 1985.

Bird sat out the entire fourth quarter. After playing the third quarter, head coach K. C. Jones informed Bird that he was one steal away from a quadruple-double and asked if he wanted to stay in the game. Bird declined, saying that he "already did enough damage."

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[Real Men Wear Green]

"I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan." - Larry Bird

[sportjames23]

For his PURE skill, dedication, focus, intelligence, ruthlessness. The REAL hoop heads, not the casuals that watch for drama/celebrity shit and bandwagon athletic guys.

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Bird had 30/12/10/9 in 33 minutes against the Jazz on February 18, 1985.

Bird sat out the entire fourth quarter. After playing the third quarter, head coach K. C. Jones informed Bird that he was one steal away from a quadruple-double and asked if he wanted to stay in the game. Bird declined, saying that he "already did enough damage."

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You done lost half your mind.


You still my nigguh doe

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

You done lost half your mind.


You still my nigguh doe

MJs 2nd GOAT (KAJ is GOAT) but he was a statpadder breh:biggums:

[3ball]

For his PURE skill, dedication, focus, intelligence, ruthlessness. The REAL hoop heads, not the casuals that watch for drama/celebrity shit and bandwagon athletic guys.

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Bird had 30/12/10/9 in 33 minutes against the Jazz on February 18, 1985.

Bird sat out the entire fourth quarter. After playing the third quarter, head coach K. C. Jones informed Bird that he was one steal away from a quadruple-double and asked if he wanted to stay in the game. Bird declined, saying that he "already did enough damage."

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solid.. you get an A

it would suck to see Bird or MJ in today's game though - they'd just be running boring drive-and-kicks and simply wouldn't need the nuanced skill required to navigate no-spacing environments and defenders that are all bunched together.

then again, they would dominate more WITH today's spacing, than the no-spacing they played in, so they'd be MORE exciting today actually.
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[ArbitraryWater]

OP knows himself them badass white ballers :applause: Bird & Dirk :bowdown:

But we can't see eye to eye on this Kobe/Bron thing http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2813/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif

[warriorfan]

Kg and Cp3 stat pads more than any of these guys

[feyki]

OP knows himself them badass white ballers :applause: Bird & Dirk :bowdown:

But we can't see eye to eye on this Kobe/Bron thing http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2813/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif

Bird or Lebron ? For all time ?

Everybody known that. Lebron,Kobe,Jordan are advertising kids and Bird is an old school country guy.

[SHAQisGOAT]

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[Da_Realist]

For his PURE skill, dedication, focus, intelligence, ruthlessness. The REAL hoop heads, not the casuals that watch for drama/celebrity shit and bandwagon athletic guys.


Bird had 30/12/10/9 in 33 minutes against the Jazz on February 18, 1985.

Bird sat out the entire fourth quarter. After playing the third quarter, head coach K. C. Jones informed Bird that he was one steal away from a quadruple-double and asked if he wanted to stay in the game. Bird declined, saying that he "already did enough damage."



True. But I remember a finals game where MJ scored 35 points in the first half and somehow only scored 4 points the rest of the game. Must've been that defense. :pimp:

[TheBigVeto]

Yea but he's got less respect from racists who don't understand basketball.
So it's a wash.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Playoff PER (10 year Prime)

Jordan : 28.7
Shaq : 28.7
*
Lebron : 27.4
*
Bird : 21.8

:kobe:

[Marchesk]

Wilt's career playoff PER (22.7) is higher than Bird's 10 year prime, and yet Bird is considered clutch, and Wilt a choker. :confusedshrug:

Wilt's playoff prime is around 28 (6 years) btw.

[Ass Dan]

Wilt's career playoff PER (22.7) is higher than Bird's 10 year prime, and yet Bird is considered clutch, and Wilt a choker. :confusedshrug:

Wilt's playoff prime is around 28 (6 years) btw.

Wow, its a great thing PER is the final measure for greatness.

[KevinNYC]

I've always respected Bird for not going for the Quad double in a blowout.

Another thing he did, that most players would not is he ended his career a few days before he was guaranteed a major bonus from the Celtics. In fact, the Celtics GM knew about this upcoming date and told Larry to go home and think about a few days. Bird said I know what you're trying to do. If I'm not going to play, I'm not going to take the money.


Looking for a link to that story, I can across this great profile (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390570) of Bird before he joined Indiana State. Lots of detail I never heard before. I knew Bird went to Indiana to play for Bob Knight and left after a month, but he also briefly went to another school and left. Larry Bird was not Mr. Basketball in Indiana his senior year....I think Jerry Sichting! was
as a senior, soared to 6-7, his body and skill level finally in harmony. In his last season, Bird scored 55 in one game and grabbed 38 rebounds in another. On the year, he averaged 30.6 points per game and 20 rebounds per contest, leading Springs Valley to a 21-4 record.

But Bird, whom fans from outside the Valley labeled a kid from nowhere playing nobodies, failed to capture the state’s imagination. He wasn’t even considered one of the top players in Indiana—the 1974 Mr. Basketball title was shared by two other boys; Bird, who had signed to play with the Hoosiers over Purdue and Indiana State, was only a third-team all-state selection. That summer, stung by a lack of playing time on the Indiana Boys All-Star team in its annual series with Kentucky, Bird twice refused to enter a game at Butler’s Hinkle Fieldhouse to play mop-up minutes.

Paul George on Bird the Pacers executive.

At a team shootaround, “He picked a ball up that had rolled over,” George told SLAM magazine. “He rolled up his sleeves and made about 15 in a row, and just walked out like nothing just happened. It was the craziest thing I’ve seen. We were speechless. We didn’t know whether to keep shooting or just to end practice. It was sweet, man.”

and check this out from before Bird played a game of college basketball.
The coaches weren’t about to let Bird go anywhere. Earlier that season, Mel Daniels, the Indiana Pacers and ABA great, had visited Terre Haute at the request of King, who had coached Daniels at the University of New Mexico. Daniels brought along Pacers teammate and future Naismith Hall of Famer Roger Brown for an afternoon of pick-up ball with some of the Sycamores, including Bird. After the game, Daniels, himself a future Hall of Famer, offered King and Hodges a scouting report on Bird.

“Let me tell you something, Coach,” said Daniels. “That’s the best damn player I’ve ever played against.”

Brown, who rarely, if ever, gave compliments or praise, agreed.

“Ah, come on, Mel,” said Hodges. He laughed, noting that Daniels had played among the likes of Connie Hawkins, Julius Erving, and George McGinnis.

“I’m telling you,” said Daniels, “the best damn player I’ve ever played against.”

[JohnFreeman]

Bird is a known pedophile

[AlphaWolf24]

"I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan." - Larry Bird


God only scored 19 points ( 4 in the 2nd half) in the next game..... ...and was swept that series...

Bird was playing mind games.....or he's an atheist :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

"I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan." - Larry Bird (1986)

"He (LeBron) is as good as anyone ever was, one day he will be better than any of us." - Larry Bird (2009)

[feyki]

Playoff PER (10 year Prime)

Jordan : 28.7
Shaq : 28.7
*
Lebron : 27.4
*
Bird : 21.8

:kobe:

Yes , They are better ball hogger than Bird . Thanks for information .

[pastis]

During breaks in games, Jordan has been wandering over to the scorer`s table to get updates on how many rebounds, assists and points he needs to fill his three double-figure quotas.

"The guys at the scorer`s desk let me know what I need," he said. "They tell me, `You need three assists; you need two rebounds."

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[Dresta]

I do kinda agree with the premise of this thread: Bird was the definition of a selfless team player, a moniker which is often (most unjustly) given to Lebron just because he's a forwards that averages assists.

In reality: the difference between the two, and their respective approaches to the game, couldn't be more different. Jordan was similar too - he was just a good bit better than Bron.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

I do kinda agree with the premise of this thread: Bird was the definition of a selfless team player, a moniker which is often (most unjustly) given to Lebron just because he's a forwards that averages assists.

In reality: the difference between the two, and their respective approaches to the game, couldn't be more different. Jordan was similar too - he was just a good bit better than Bron.
Youre a good poster, glad u saw what thread was about

the ppl posting PER and shit completely missed the point and contributed in showing the two sides of the hardcore basketball fan:lol :oldlol: :facepalm

[Hey Yo]

For his PURE skill, dedication, focus, intelligence, ruthlessness. The REAL hoop heads, not the casuals that watch for drama/celebrity shit and bandwagon athletic guys.

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What game was this from?

What was the score at the time?

What was LeBron's line when looking at that?

What quarter was it?

Where on that paper says or can been seen that it's the teams stat sheet for the night?

[SHAQisGOAT]

"I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan." - Larry Bird (1986)

"He (LeBron) is as good as anyone ever was, one day he will be better than any of us." - Larry Bird (2009)

Also, at some point, said that Magic was the best he's ever seen.
Also, at some point, said that King was the best forward in the league.
Also, at some point, said that Dominique should've won MVP instead of him.
Also, at some point, said that DJ was the best he ever played with (while the majority of "outsiders" wouldn't agree).
Also, at some point, said that Wilt was the GOAT when you look at the records book.
...

Bird always has lots of praise, lots of nice words towards great basketball players, no matter what... when the subject isn't about on who beats who, at least...

On the court though? Dude was a ruthless, cold-blooded killer who did what had to be done in order to get the W, who didn't back down from no one, and the win was all that mattered to him.

Oh, and on the court, he would talk shit like no one else :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NIKK_OFvFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUmz44FurLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rg1sFMxnbM

[smoovegittar]

What game was this from?

What was the score at the time?

What was LeBron's line when looking at that?

What quarter was it?

Where on that paper says or can been seen that it's the teams stat sheet for the night?
Obviously by the tee shirt and Knick microphone...

[Hey Yo]

Obviously by the tee shirt and Knick microphone...
And obviously the OP doesn't know which Knick game, what the circumstances of the game was, what quarter it was or the score, what that paper says etc..etc...

He just assuming James is looking at a stat sheet to try to pad his stats.


It's not like he's nut slappin' a jumpshooter while sticking his foot underneath the shooters foot to come down on or making fun of cancer patients like his boy KG did.

[TheMan]

Bird has stat padded, don't be silly.

He has admitted many times before that he and Magic used to check each other's stats on a daily basis to see what they had to get to get a leg up on the other guy.

If you don't think that had absolutely no influence on how they played (being so conscious of your main MVP rival) then you're dumber than I thought, OP.

[FKAri]

Bird has stat padded, don't be sillu.

He has admitted many times before that he and Magic used to check each other's stats on a daily basis to see what they had to to get a leg up on the other guy.

If you don't think that had absolutely no influence on how they played (being so conscious of your main MVP rival) then you're dumber than I thought, OP.

The nostalgia is strong with some people. They fear players of their era will be forgotten and are being underrated and instead of being objective decide to offset it by overrating and exaggerating. Magic and Bird in particular are two guys I feel 80's guys will NEVER let go of. We could have 10 Michael Jordan's enter the league and they will STILL say "well they're not better than Bird/Magic". And now come Lebron/Kobe who imo are right up there with those two.

[TheMan]

The nostalgia is strong with some people. They fear players of their era will be forgotten and are being underrated and instead of being objective decide to offset it by overrating and exaggerating. Magic and Bird in particular are two guys I feel 80's guys will NEVER let go of. We could have 10 Michael Jordan's enter the league and they will STILL say "well they're not better than Bird/Magic". And now come Lebron/Kobe who imo are right up there with those two.
All I'm saying is that there no such thing as a player who has never statpadded ever.

Some rarely do it while some do it on the regular, but everyone is conscious of their production.