A few jumpshots that Jordan can't make (of many)

[TomBrady]

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I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of Stephen Curry. I think that he's a great shooter and a great player, but his style has never appealed to me. However, his greatness is still something to be appreciated, so I decided to bring you all a collection of gifs that show Curry making shots that the great Michael Jordan couldn't do.

Coming from the GOAT QB of one sport, this kid is something special. Enjoy.

[oarabbus]

Jordan wishes he had half of currys moves

[HenryGarfunkle]

Mini Durant without the leadership

[Lebronxrings]

derozan was never a good 3 point shooter, more mid range.

[oarabbus]

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[imdaman99]

Jordan could do all those things. He just wouldn't make them at the same % that Curry can, not even close.

Let's not forget he hit 6 threes in a half in a Finals game. Saying this as a Jordan disliker.

[Bankaii]

All you had to do was post both their 3 point contest highlights.

We all know how that turned out:roll:

[inclinerator]

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[Springsteen]

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This game was legendary.

Stephen Curry revealed his true powers to the world that night.

[Ai2death]

I'll take the guy that turned up in the playoffs.

[Papaya Petee]

Jordan could also never consistently make a Kareem sky-hook, Shaq drop step dunk, Dirk fadeaway, Duncan bankshot, Wade floater, etc. Etc.

3ball is just a tool and thinks Jordans the best at everything. Ignore him.

[nathanjizzle]

this might be the most asinine thread i have ever read on insidehoops. you are saying jordan cant make pull up 3 pointers?

[Spurs m8]

LOL is OP serious?

Jordan could make all of those shots, the gifs weren't even that good hahaah

At least pick some he couldn't make HAHAHAHAHA

[fragokota]

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[iTare]

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[J Shuttlesworth]

This game was legendary.

Stephen Curry revealed his true powers to the world that night.
That was the game that made me like Curry

[TheMan]

OP straight up retarded

[Dr Hawk]

http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/jordan-the-shrug-3.jpg

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[Straight_Ballin]

LOL is OP serious?

Jordan could make all of those shots, the gifs weren't even that good hahaah

At least pick some he couldn't make HAHAHAHAHA

For real. OP is more delusional than a bran stan.

[04mzwach]

Yeah, but nobody can make shots like that unless they're Curry. At least not consistently.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Curry as an overall perimeter shooter >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan
Only crazy Jordan stans would act like its even debatable.

:kobe:

[warriorfan]

http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/jordan-the-shrug-3.jpg

:roll:

[ShaqTwizzle]

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[3ball]

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Let me know when Curry has 3 guys contest ANY of his jumpshots, let alone a 2-point jumpshot... :rolleyes:


https://media.giphy.com/media/WyqVBIkI6kCSk/giphy.gif


This level of contest is only possible without spacing, when defenders are bunched together in close proximity - It's IMPOSSIBLE to contest jumpshots like this anymore, because the spacing spreads today's defenders out too much..

Curry's jumpers are far less contested than MJ's - this is obvious - I can post thousands more jumpshots like this with multiple guys contesting MJ's jumper, whereas 2+ guys almost never contest Curry's.
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[TomBrady]

That's really interesting 3ball. Unfortunately, you posted zero gifs of Jordan making the shots that Curry did. Until you have gif proof for every single play, it seems clear that Jordan couldn't make the long range jump shots that Curry can make.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Contested or uncontested Curry as a "perimeter shooter" absolutely owns Jordan.

Jordan is obviously much better at posting up, slashing and at overall interior scoring but in terms of who the better shooter is there should be no debate.

If you took Prime Jordan & Curry and told both that neither were allowed to shoot the ball inside of 10 feet then Curry would become the more effective scorer of the two easily...

:pimp:

[JebronLames]

LOL 3ball cant find any clips of MJ hitting 3balls

[pastis]

basically every shot curry takes at 3 point ine is a shot jordan cant do. Same goes for the insane dribble skills before the shot.

[3ball]

basically every shot curry takes at 3 point ine is a shot jordan cant do. Same goes for the insane dribble skills before the shot.



Apparently, you're an ignoramus:


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Here's a 3-pointer Curry CANNOT hit:


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[3ball]

Many more coming ignoramuses

[andgar923]

Is this real life?

Does the OP think he's actually on to something?

3ball basically shits MJ gifs, this is an appetizer for him

[3ball]

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[ShaqTwizzle]

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[ShaqTwizzle]

I don't know what you're trying to prove by posting those gifs.

I can find countless crazy 3pt shots and near half-court shots if I go through some Kobe highlight reels.

I can do the same for Lebron, Wade and even guys like Iverson, Kidd and Marbury.
That doesn't make them Curry's equal as perimeter shooters.

What you did is pointless and can be done for any guard/wing who can shoot the ball half decently.

MJ at his best made 1.1 3pt shots a game on 37%
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Curry right now is making 5.0 3pt shots a game on 43%

[DonDadda59]

Jordan did get at least 1 finals MVP vote though. Don't recall Toni Kukoc ever winning the award. :lol

[jstern]

I don't know what you're trying to prove by posting those gifs.

I can find countless crazy 3pt shots and near half-court shots if I go through some Kobe highlight reels.

I can do the same for Lebron, Wade and even guys like Iverson, Kidd and Marbury.
That doesn't make them Curry's equal as perimeter shooters.

What you did is pointless and can be done for any guard/wing who can shoot the ball half decently.

MJ at his best made 1.1 3pt shots a game on 37%
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Curry right now is making 5.0 3pt shots a game on 43%

This thread is confusing, because the OP is saying that Jordan can't hit those shots. But they're just jump shots. It's almost as if the OP never saw Jordan play, and thought he never hit a 3 pointer.

Obviously Curry is the better 3 point shooter. He's better than Miller. But Jordan can make all of those jump shots.

Now as for the fancy dribbling. What's amazing about Jordan is that he creates shots in a split second, and unfortunately most kids don't realize how impressive and beautiful that is. So they would see Curry doing some fancy dribble, and think that's superior.

[90sgoat]

This thread is confusing, because the OP is saying that Jordan can't hit those shots. But they're just jump shots. It's almost as if the OP never saw Jordan play, and thought he never hit a 3 pointer.

Obviously Curry is the better 3 point shooter. He's better than Miller. But Jordan can make all of those jump shots.

Now as for the fancy dribbling. What's amazing about Jordan is that he creates shots in a split second, and unfortunately most kids don't realize how impressive and beautiful that is. So they would see Curry doing some fancy dribble, and think that's superior.

Jordan was zero wasted movement.

As you say, kids don't realize the main difference between MJ and Kobe was the speed of action, not the repetoire. Jordan never wasted time standing around dribbling, he was essentially every high school basketball teachers dream: "Don't put the ball on the floor before you know what you're going to do", yes I've heard that, anyone who played heard that.

Jordan was the ultimate tripple threat player and everything he did happened in a matter of miliseconds. Watch those body fakes, lightning quick, then drive or shoot or pass.

So much have been copied or attempted to be copied by players, but very few have actually watched behind the flashy dunks and fadeaways and see what is actually behind, moving with a purpose ALWAYS.

Kawhi clearly has watched Jordan and so far this season he is clearly incorporating quick attacks and movements into his game. Until now he doesn't have the ability to also pass with quickness but his shooting and driving with speed is getting there.

[CavaliersFTW]

Damn hate to encourage 3ball but he just ethered the fukk out of OP, meticulously posted Jordan duplicating all those shots Curry did in the OP and then some hang-time 3's that Curry clearly can't do

OP hung by his tongue while 3ball kicked out the stool :lol

[CavaliersFTW]

Jordan did get at least 1 finals MVP vote though. Don't recall Toni Kukoc ever winning the award. :lol
slayed :roll:

[90sgoat]

This is probably one of the strongest ethers EVER in ISH history.

Don't even deny.

Also notice how most of those gifs are with the clock winding down, GOAT clutch and the reason for why MJ didn't shoot that many 3s, he was old school and most took 3s as bailouts.

[CavaliersFTW]

Reminds me of that story when some opposing fan told Jordan "b-b-but Drexler is a better three point shooter than you.." and MJ responded with:

"Drexler is a better 3 point shooter than I CHOOSE to be."

[ShaqTwizzle]

How did OP get ethered?

Yes Jordan occasionally hit difficult deep perimeter shots that Curry seemingly hits on the regular but that doesn't mean they are equal as shooters.

Curry is a far, far better perimeter shooter then Jordan was, period, especially once you get beyond the true mid-range area into the deep 2/3pt areas.

OP should post a bunch of GIF's of MJ blocking shots and then we can talk about how he was equal to Mutombo as a shot-blocker.
Oh he could have blocked 4+ blocks per game if he CHOSE TO hurr.
He could have made 5 three's a game on 40+% shooting if he CHOSE TO.

:kobe:

[CavaliersFTW]

How did OP get ethered?

Yes Jordan occasionally hit difficult deep perimeter shots that Curry seemingly hits on the regular but that doesn't mean they are equal as shooters.

Curry is a far, far better perimeter shooter then Jordan was, period, especially once you get beyond the true mid-range area into the deep 2/3pt areas.

OP should post a bunch of GIF's of MJ blocking shots and then we can talk about how he was equal to Mutombo as a shot-blocker.
Oh he could have blocked 4+ blocks per game if he CHOSE TO hurr.

:kobe:
Nobody said they were equal shooters dipshit.

OP claimed Jordan "can't make" any of those shots.

He did make them though.

/thread

[sd3035]

this might be the most asinine thread i have ever read on insidehoops. you are saying jordan cant make pull up 3 pointers?


Ordan was a terrible outside shooter

[ShaqTwizzle]

He did make them though.


So has Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Marbury, Jamal Crawford & J.R. Smith etc...
Doesn't mean anything shitdip.

Curry >>>> Jordan as an overall perimeter shooter.

That is all that matters.

[CavaliersFTW]

So has Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Marbury and J.R. Smith etc...
Doesn't mean anything shitdip.

Curry >>>> Jordan as an overall perimeter shooter.

That is all that matters.
Make a thread about that then. Because that's not what this thread was about.

OP got fukkin destroyed.

[deja vu]

"Curry is a better three point shooter than I chose to be." - Michael Jordan

[90sgoat]

So has Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Marbury, Jamal Crawford & J.R. Smith etc...
Doesn't mean anything shitdip.

Curry >>>> Jordan as an overall perimeter shooter.

That is all that matters.

Ok.

Let's see what the stats actually say though.

We don't have shooting stats for MJ except as 38-40 year old injured player:

MJ last season in NBA:

10-16 feet: .439
16-3pt line: .424

Lets compare to some current NBA players:

Lebron James career

10-16 feet: .360
16-3pt line: .341

Kobe Bryant career

10-16 feet: .439
16-3pt line: .405

Kevin Durant career

10-16 feet: .434
16-3pt line: .412

Steph Curry career

10-16 feet: .448
16-3pt line: .463

James Harden stats

10-16 feet: .415
16-3pt line: .369

Klay Thompson stats

10-16 feet: .425
16-3pt line: .429

MJ at 39 years old shit on guys in their prime for long 2s.

[sdot_thadon]

Man, don't get me wrong Mj is lightyears ahead of Curry overall as a player but are you dudes seriously arguing that he's the shooter curry is? Real sloppy fellas to cosign a bunch of gifs that aren't on the same level of what steph is doing consistently. Mj is goat but he isn't goat of every aspect of the game fellas, seriously.

[CavaliersFTW]

Man, don't get me wrong Mj is lightyears ahead of Curry overall as a player but are you dudes seriously arguing that he's the shooter curry is? Real sloppy fellas to cosign a bunch of gifs that aren't on the same level of what steph is doing consistently. Mj is goat but he isn't goat of every aspect of the game fellas, seriously.
Looks like you didn't read the thread.

Read it before you assume what other people said :oldlol:

[sdot_thadon]

Looks like you didn't read the thread.

Read it before you assume what other people said :oldlol:
I did, those shots aren't what curry is doing. And he's doing it a way higher volume. It's silly.

[TomBrady]

Sorry, Jordan is clearly missing the handles and the release on those shots so they're not the replicas that I'm looking for. He's also not being defended nearly as well as Curry because he played in a weaker era.

Until you can meet my criteria, Curry > Jordan.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Sorry, Jordan is clearly missing the handles and the release on those shots so they're not the replicas that I'm looking for. He's also not being defended nearly as well as Curry because he played in a weaker era.

Until you can meet my criteria, Curry > Jordan.

:lebronamazed:

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[3ball]

Curry >>>> Jordan as an overall perimeter shooter.



Here's everyone's regular season "midrange" percentage***, directly from stats.nba.com (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):


Durant 2015: 49.0%, 143 fga
Jordan 1997: 48.9%, 1202 fga
Kobe 2013: 42.3%.. 542 fga
Curry 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Harden 2015: 37.3%, 276 fga
Lebron 2015: 37.0%, 343 fga

*** Midrange is defined as any shot inside the 3-point line that is outside of the paint


MJ is a FAR better 2-point shooter than all of these players.. However, he dealt with hand-checking, higher physicality and poor spacing, so it wasn't as easy for him to get to the hole.

Despite the tougher path to the basket, he still shot FT's on 35% of his shots during his 2nd three-peat, while averaging 80 dunks a season (top 10% of league at 34-35 years old).
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[3ball]

Sorry, Jordan is clearly missing the handles and the release on those shots so they're not the replicas that I'm looking for. He's also not being defended nearly as well as Curry because he played in a weaker era.

Until you can meet my criteria, Curry > Jordan.


I met your criteria and some.

The reality is that MJ was a better 2 point shooter than Curry, and the only reason he wasn't a 40% three-point shooter is because he was capable of 37 ppg on all two pointers despite constant double-teams, according to the New York Times:



"Last season, Jordan had to overcome the harrassment of zone traps and double-triple teaming to average 37.1 points a game."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s9_GKFNL9E&t=0m49s



Anyone capable of that ^^^^ on all two-pointers doesn't need a 3-point shot, and WOULDN'T WANT ONE:



"The 3-point shot is something i don't want to excel at because it takes away from all phases of my game.. My game is to fake, drive to the hole, penetrate, dish off, dunk or whatever... and when you have that mentality as i found out in the first game of making 3's, you don't go to the hole as much, you start running to the 3-point line and starting sitting there and waiting for someone to find you.. and that's not my mentality and i don't want to create that, because it takes away from other parts of my game."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m13s

[ShaqTwizzle]

Here's everyone's regular season "midrange" percentage, directly from stats.nba.com:


Durant 2015: 49.0%, 143 fga
Jordan 1997: 48.9%, 1202 fga
Kobe 2013: 42.3%.. 542 fga
Curry 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Harden 2015: 37.3%, 276 fga


I didn't know this kind of specific shot data was available for that year.
What does midrange mean? 10-16 area?

That is good but if we are talking about overall perimeter shooting ability then we also have to factor in deep two's and 3pt shots which should have an added value for obvious reasons.

Assuming those numbers are for 10-16 I still think Curry would be shown better from 16+ and he obviously has a gigantic edge from 3pt range.

So overall Curry is still clearly the more gifted perimeter shooter.
He is comparable/slightly better at mid-range and he is 100x better from 3pt range and also considerably better from the line.

[3ball]

I didn't know this kind of specific shot data was available for that year.


It is... Here's the link for MJ's 1997 shooting stats:

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season





What does midrange mean? 10-16 area?


Midrange means ALL shots inside the 3-point line but outside of the paint...

Again, MJ shot 48.9% from midrange in 1997, on 1202 FGA.

compared to 41.1% for Curry, on only 285 fga.





So overall Curry is still clearly the more gifted perimeter shooter.


As the stats clearly show, MJ was a FAR better 2 point shooter than Curry, and the only reason he wasn't a 40% three-point shooter is because he was capable of 37 ppg on all two pointers despite constant double-teams, according to the New York Times:



"Last season, Jordan had to overcome the harrassment of zone traps and double-triple teaming to average 37.1 points a game."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s9_GKFNL9E&t=0m49s



Anyone capable of that ^^^^ on all two-pointers doesn't need a 3-point shot, and WOULDN'T WANT ONE:



"The 3-point shot is something i don't want to excel at because it takes away from all phases of my game.. My game is to fake, drive to the hole, penetrate, dish off, dunk or whatever... and when you have that mentality as i found out in the first game of making 3's, you don't go to the hole as much, you start running to the 3-point line and starting sitting there and waiting for someone to find you.. and that's not my mentality and i don't want to create that, because it takes away from other parts of my game."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m13s

[TomBrady]

Stephen Curry's current 2015-2016 2P% of 60.5% > anything of Jordan's.

Stephen Curry's current 2015-2016 3P% of 43.1% > anything of Jordan's.

I think we're done here, unless you can find the specific gifs I asked for, all of which must include Jordan displaying handles equal to Curry's, a release equal to Curry's, and facing defense equal to Curry's (AKA good defense). Until you can find what I have asked for it seems clear that Curry > Jordan.

[ShaqTwizzle]

3ball...
I checked the site and Curry's midrange percentage is 47.1
Don't know why you made up that 41.1 figure.

Anyway.
Even looking at that sites charts Curry has the edge in almost every area they list and his advantage from the deeper ranges is really, really big.

I really don't see the argument well anymore.
Curry is just a far more gifted shooter.

Even if Jordan can compare from certain midrange spots he is still completely outclassed at further distances and also significantly bettered from the line.

Curry is the better overall "shooter" by a pretty fair margin.

Jordan is the better scorer.
Curry is the better shooter.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
Jordan was not the best at every individual skill and as you said he didn't need to be.
A 3pt shot might have taken away from his game... who knows.
I personally don't think he had the natural ability to become Curry deadly from the deeper ranges but we can never truly know.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Ah I see you were using 15 Curry.

1997 Jordan VS 2016 Curry
(stats from your site 3ball)



Curry
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mid-range : 47.1%
3pt : 44%
FT : 94%


Jordan
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mid-range : 48.9%
3pt : 34%
FT : 83%

Who do you give the edge?

[stalkerforlife]

Pay attention, ShaqTwizzle.

Damn.

[stalkerforlife]

Ah I see you were using 15 Curry.

1997 Jordan VS 2016 Curry
(stats from your site 3ball)



Curry
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mid-range : 47.1%
3pt : 44%
FT : 94%


Jordan
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mid-range : 48.9%
3pt : 34%
FT : 83%

Who do you give the edge?

Don't be a moron.

We're only 15 games into the season.

[3ball]

Ah I see you were using 15 Curry.


It isn't valid to compare 16 games to an entire season.. I would only do that if I was biased and didn't want to be objective.

But even using the 16 games from 2016, Curry shoots worse from midrange, on literally 1/5th the volume... It's not remotely close - MJ is the FAR better 2-point shooter.

Btw, MJ had many many stretches that are far superior to Curry's 16 games.

[3ball]

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Here's everyone's regular season "midrange" percentage**, directly from stats.nba.com (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):


Durant 2015: 49.0%, 143 fga
Jordan 1997: 48.9%, 1202 fga
Kobe 2013: 42.3%.. 542 fga
Curry 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Harden 2015: 37.3%, 276 fga
Lebron 2015: 37.0%, 343 fga

** Midrange is defined as any shot inside the 3-point line but outside of the paint


MJ is a FAR better 2-point shooter than all of these players..

However, he dealt with hand-checking, higher physicality and poor spacing, so it was much harder to get all the way to the rim - midrange pull-ups were standard for EVERYBODY back then.

Despite the tougher path to the basket, he still shot FT's on 35% of his shots during his 2nd three-peat, while averaging 80 dunks a season (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352399) (top 10% of league at 34-35 years old).
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[Jameerthefear]

3 > 2
Curry > Jordan

It's simple ****ing math, you moron. Go put your ****ing helmet back on.

[3ball]

3 > 2
Curry > Jordan


So why is Curry a far worse scorer than MJ?

[jstern]

Stephen Curry's current 2015-2016 2P% of 60.5% > anything of Jordan's.

Stephen Curry's current 2015-2016 3P% of 43.1% > anything of Jordan's.

I think we're done here, unless you can find the specific gifs I asked for, all of which must include Jordan displaying handles equal to Curry's, a release equal to Curry's, and facing defense equal to Curry's (AKA good defense). Until you can find what I have asked for it seems clear that Curry > Jordan.

I'm sorry, but this post is pure stupidity. Childish fanboyism at is best. I mean, hitting the jumpers from the same spot is not good enough, now Jordan has to have the exact same style and everything.

Every player has their own style. Why not ask, "Show me a gif where Jordan is releasing the ball the same way as Lebron." Why not Shaq for that matter. Now he has to have the same crossovers. Mind you, that Jordan is superior at getting an open shot in a split second, which is superior to trying to do fancy dribbling.

It's just soooo stupid. No offense.

Why not ask for a gif of Jordan doing Curry's mannerisms, or walking the same way he walks.

Why not do the same thread for Reggie Miller. He was a better 3 point shooter, and had a completely different style than Jordan. If you can't find a gif of Jordan releasing the ball the same exact way as Reggie Miller, then Miller > Jordan.

[3ball]

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Updated Curry/Jordan Hot Streak Comparison (Curry's keep declining):


M Jordan January 1988 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#210-224-sum:pgl_basic): 34.3 ppg.. 5.7 rpg.. 7.1 apg.. 3.9 spg.. 2.2 bpg.. 58.9 fg.. 64.8 ts.. 132 ortg
Curry 2016 (16 games): 32.1 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.6 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 51.2 fg.. 67.6 ts.. 124 ortg


Jordan November 1988 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1989/#265-278-sum:pgl_basic): 36.1 ppg.. 7.3 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 3.4 spg.. 1.3 bpg.. 57.9 fg.. 64.0 ts.. 121 ortg
Jordan December 1989 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1990/#360-373-sum:pgl_basic): 33.7 ppg.. 6.9 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 62.9 ts.. 125 ortg
Jordan December 1990 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#443-456-sum:pgl_basic): 31.9 ppg.. 7.7 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.9 spg.. 1.3 bpg.. 57.0 fg.. 62.3 ts.. 131 ortg


:kobe: :whatever: :lebronamazed: :dancin :durantunimpressed: :yaohappy: :hammertime:


MJ had numerous stretches where he was superior across the board, in addition to his DPOY defense.. As Popovich recently said, MJ is the standard for 2-way play:


"He (Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, and I don’t mean he’s Michael Jordan,” Popovich said. “But you think about the best players in the league, they’re not two-way players. He wants to do that.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/11/11/kawhi-leonard-gregg-popovich-spurs-charles-barkley-michael-jordan/75612616/


So take Curry's offense and make it alot better - then give Curry superior athleticism and defense than Kawhi - that's the goat.

[ShaqTwizzle]

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10-14 : Edge Jordan I guess (cause of volume)
15-19 : Very large edge Jordan
20-24 : Significant edge Curry
25-29 : Gigantic edge Curry

FT: Significant edge Curry

Food for thought.
:kobe:

[3ball]

Food for thought.
:kobe:



You left out 5-9 feet:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga

20-24 ft.......... 39.6%, 303 fga................ 44.1%, 286 fga

25-29 ft.......... 34.4%, 23 fga................. 43.0%, 442 fga


MJ has the obvious edge from 2-point range, but his edge is utterly massive when you consider that MJ has literally 5 times the volume from 5-24 feet - yet he achieves the same efficiency as Curry, which means he's the far greater shooter from these distances.

If you told MJ to be super-selective like Curry and take Curry's far lower volume (80% lower), than MJ's efficiency would skyrocket past Curry's... But nonetheless, MJ still has a material edge from 5-24 feet, even though he takes 5 times the volume.

[3ball]

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Let's just look at jumpers inside 20 feet:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


MJ is a FAR better shooter than Curry from anywhere inside 20 feet.. :pimp:
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[sdot_thadon]

It isn't valid to compare 16 games to an entire season.. I would only do that if I was biased and didn't want to be objective.
Don't you do this sort of thing on a daily basis?
:biggums:

[3ball]

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Let's look at jumpers inside 20 feet:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


MJ is a FAR better shooter than Curry from anywhere inside 20 feet.. :pimp:


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