jfc...is harden like this every game? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:14 PM

Pretty sure it's the coach's responsibility to keep players moving off the ball, but that's too easy of an answer. We have to blame the star player that lead his team to 55+ wins and a WCF appearance without another All-Star.

Why is it that Harden (one of the best iso players in the league) is hogging the ball. Let Patrick Beverley, Marcus Thornton, Ty Lawson, Jason Terry, or some other bum player get touches.

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:15 PM

In fact, let's give the ball to Dwight Howard and Terrence Jones in the post. I'm sure that'll put points on the board...

NugzFan

11-25-2015, 11:24 PM

actually now i see why he doesnt pass...

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:42 PM

I can't remember the last time the Rockets have ran a legit play other than it being out of a deadball situation

TrueBlue89

11-25-2015, 11:46 PM

He only took 17 shots for crying out loud. How the **** is that hogging the ball?

The rest of the team is utter shit. He's averaging 40 in Rockets wins.

STATUTORY

11-25-2015, 11:49 PM

He only took 17 shots for crying out loud. How the **** is that hogging the ball?

The rest of the team is utter shit. He's averaging 40 in Rockets wins.

17 shots plus 10+ free throws

you need to take shots to earn free throws too you know, still a possesion used even if it doesn't show up in fga

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:51 PM

17 shots plus 10+ free throws

you need to take shots to earn free throws too you know, still a possesion used even if it doesn't show up in fga
Still 100x more than what anyone else if giving the Rockets.

This team's second more productive player is Clint freaking Capela.

STATUTORY

11-25-2015, 11:53 PM

Still 100x more than what anyone else if giving the Rockets.

This team's second more productive player is Clint freaking Capela.

Morey f@cked up. Guy thought he was smarter than the room and was trigger happy when it came to trades

Rockets has traded away more talent than what the roster has currently

Graviton

11-25-2015, 11:54 PM

Looks like Harden is in the same situation Westbrook was in last year without Durant. Just bunch of scrubs standing around waiting to get carried instead of stepping up, and a retarded coach cheerleading from the bench.

NugzFan

11-25-2015, 11:55 PM

Morey f@cked up. Guy thought he was smarter than the room and was trigger happy when it came to trades

Rockets has traded away more talent than what the roster has currently

so true. he treated his team like an nba2k roster. these guys are an awful fit with each other. and lawson doesnt even play.

"in morey we trust" :oldlol:

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:56 PM

Morey f@cked up. Guy thought he was smarter than the room and was trigger happy when it came to trades

Rockets has traded away more talent than what the roster has currently
like who?

Kevin Martin? Pablo Prigioni? Joey Dorsey?

Fallen Angel

11-25-2015, 11:57 PM

People talk about how Morey is trigger happy with trading players, I'd like to know what trade he's made through his tenure since he got Harden was unnecessary or flat out bad.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:00 AM

I'll be waiting

pnyozzzoo

11-26-2015, 12:12 AM

I'll be waiting
you will wait a long time b4 rocket wins a game, team chemistry is shot atm, guys just protest in silence to sabotage this pos james harden to expose him as a fraud. People hate playing with a moron who iso chucks all the time on the offense, does not play a lick of defense , does not talk to his teammate and only cares about branding and banging next biggest name hoe.

Phantom_Blue

11-26-2015, 12:12 AM

How many more years till Rockets organization and fan base realize that Harden as your #1 guy is the real problem.

Springsteen

11-26-2015, 12:14 AM

People talk about how Morey is trigger happy with trading players, I'd like to know what trade he's made through his tenure since he got Harden was unnecessary or flat out bad.

How about, I don't know, that Ty Lawson trade a couple months ago?

They had to move his ass to the bench. :lol

AnaheimLakers24

11-26-2015, 12:15 AM

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:22 AM

How about, I don't know, that Ty Lawson trade a couple months ago?

They had to move his ass to the bench. :lol
Ty has another year left on his contract and he unguarenteed it. His trade value is so high for a team that needs a starting PG.

Even if we don't make the playoffs we traded essentially Prigioni, Dorsey, Nick Johnson, and Kostas Papanikolaou for Ty Lawson. We keep the protected 1st round pick we included. We gave nothing for a starting PG with time a two years left on his contact. That's an amazing move, and will be even more worth it when we flip him for something else.

We gave literally 0 rotational players for Ty Lawson. Morey is the ultimate opportunist.

Goofsta Knicca

11-26-2015, 12:27 AM

actually now i see why he doesnt pass...

Pass means to like, hand something to him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECBFTdh_ogs

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:31 AM

How about, I don't know, that Ty Lawson trade a couple months ago?

They had to move his ass to the bench. :lol

is he even the backup PG right now? he only played 3 minutes tonight.

what the hell happened to him?

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:35 AM

Ty has another year left on his contract and he unguarenteed it. His trade value is so high for a team that needs a starting PG.

:oldlol: his trade value a few months ago was low. and since then he has played absolutely awfully...or not at all. so no, its not "high" for any team right now. im sure playoff teams are lining up to trade for a 3rd string PG making 10 million who cant shoot, cant defend, doesnt seem to care and might still be drinking too much.

Even if we don't make the playoffs we traded essentially Prigioni, Dorsey, Nick Johnson, and Kostas Papanikolaou for Ty Lawson. We keep the protected 1st round pick we included. We gave nothing for a starting PG with time a two years left on his contact. That's an amazing move, and will be even more worth it when we flip him for something else.

We gave literally 0 rotational players for Ty Lawson. Morey is the ultimate opportunist.

that was an "amazing move"? seem like morey's standards have fallen quite a bit recently.

morey has proven to be super overrated. goes out and gets harden, lawson, howard, etc...whatever big names he can find. and yet creates a terrible team. he treats the rockets like its an nba2k game. lots of stars and yet no wins.

bdreason

11-26-2015, 12:35 AM

But the analytics said it would work...

To be fair, I thought the Rockets roster looked scary on paper. I'm not sure what happened to this team over the summer.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:38 AM

Breaking News: Ty Lawson doesn't work with James Harden, has been relegated to a sixth man role therefore will be looked upon as a sixth man for every other team in the league.

You must think Mo Williams and Jose Calderon are a better players than Ty Lawson.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:41 AM

Prigioni, Dorsey, Johnson, Papanikolauo >>> Lawson.... right?

None of those guys would even make the Rockets rotation, I don't even know if any of them are even playing in the league right now.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:43 AM

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:49 AM

But the analytics said it would work...

To be fair, I thought the Rockets roster looked scary on paper. I'm not sure what happened to this team over the summer.
What analytics are you talking about? Did you come from the Barkley School of Idiots?

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:51 AM

Springsteen

11-26-2015, 12:51 AM

Even if we don't make the playoffs we traded essentially Prigioni, Dorsey, Nick Johnson, and Kostas Papanikolaou for Ty Lawson. We keep the protected 1st round pick we included. We gave nothing for a starting PG with time a two years left on his contact. That's an amazing move, and will be even more worth it when we flip him for something else.

We gave literally 0 rotational players for Ty Lawson. Morey is the ultimate opportunist.

More trades, who cares if it kills chemistry.

Right on, bro. Morey is the trade master. ULTIMATE opportunist. :rockon:

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:52 AM

Prigioni, Dorsey, Johnson, Papanikolauo >>> Lawson.... right?

None of those guys would even make the Rockets rotation, I don't even know if any of them are even playing in the league right now.

ironically lawson isnt even making the rockets rotation right now nor even playing in the league.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:53 AM

Why does Morey even bother choosing better players over building chemistry...

Lin, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Asik, Beverley, Garcia, Delfino, and Greg Smith had dynasty potential as a team, you just have to build chemistry. Amirite?

how would you define a successful GM? he turned a good team into a bad one.

Springsteen

11-26-2015, 12:53 AM

Why does Morey even bother choosing better players over building chemistry...

Lin, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Asik, Beverley, Garcia, Delfino, and Greg Smith had dynasty potential as a team, you just have to build chemistry. Amirite?

No one thought some of the role players on the Warriors had dynasty potential. Look at them now. Chemistry is everything.

HenryGarfunkle

11-26-2015, 12:54 AM

Don't feed the autism people

PsychoBe

11-26-2015, 12:55 AM

No one thought some of the role players on the Warriors had dynasty potential. Look at them now. Chemistry is everything.

if harden had the same roster as curry op would be jumping off the empire state building but just because curry makes them look good then all of a sudden they're a stacked team :facepalm

bdreason

11-26-2015, 12:58 AM

What analytics are you talking about? Did you come from the Barkley School of Idiots?

I'm talking about your GM, who has never played a game of competitive basketball in his life, and uses strictly numbers to make roster decisions.

I think he's actually made good moves, but when those moves don't work, it's time to start questioning your methods.

Ironically, the Rockets just fired the guy who has all the real basketball experience and knowledge. Maybe they'll just hire a robot to coach the team? :oldlol:

Springsteen

11-26-2015, 12:58 AM

if harden had the same roster as curry op would be jumping off the empire state building but just because curry makes them look good then all of a sudden they're a stacked team :facepalm

Trying to decipher this post. Are you saying Curry's presence makes Iguodala and Draymond the players they are? :biggums:

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 12:58 AM

No one thought some of the role players on the Warriors had dynasty potential. Look at them now. Chemistry is everything.
Do you know how retarded that statement is? You're comparing the Warriors to the bums that Harden had to deal with in 2013.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 12:59 AM

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 01:00 AM

Trying to decipher this post. Are you saying Curry's presence makes Iguodala and Draymond the players they are? :biggums:

glad i wasnt the only one who couldnt translate that.

Springsteen

11-26-2015, 01:00 AM

Do you know how retarded that statement is? You're comparing the Warriors to the bums that Harden had to deal with in 2013.

We'll never know if a player can pan out on the Rockets around Harden, because Morey will trade their ass anyway. :lol

pnyozzzoo

11-26-2015, 01:00 AM

LOL if harden on warrior, i think bogut would fight him, green will be a scrub coz harden will never let green dribble the ball let alone lead in assist, harrison barnes will develop exactly like Tjones, clay will be traded for a defensive pg, and Iggy will never ever consider to join Harden during free agency. the whole thing just fall apart. Thats how shitty Harden is as a teammate. :roll:

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:03 AM

how would you define a successful GM? he turned a good team into a bad one.
The Rockets had three successful seasons in a row considering where the team was before Harden arrived. It all culminated in a 56 win season and an appearance in the WCF losing to the loaded Golden State Warriors. The only change the Rockets made from last year's playoff roster to this year's roster is that they swapped Josh Smith and Pablo Prigioni with Ty Lawson.

Let's not blame the horrible coaching staff and players on the Rockets for how bad they're playing, blame the GM that is doing his job with making the team better on paper.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:04 AM

ironically lawson isnt even making the rockets rotation right now nor even playing in the league.
Yet, he still is a valuable trade piece for a team looking for a PG. The fact that we don't need him shows how available he'll be when the trade deadline comes around.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 01:07 AM

The Rockets had three successful seasons in a row considering where the team was before Harden arrived. It all culminated in a 56 win season and an appearance in the WCF losing to the loaded Golden State Warriors. The only change the Rockets made from last year's playoff roster to this year's roster is that they swapped Josh Smith and Pablo Prigioni with Ty Lawson.

Let's not blame the horrible coaching staff and players on the Rockets for how bad they're playing, blame the GM that is doing his job with making the team better on paper.

correct. lets do that.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:07 AM

I'm talking about your GM, who has never played a game of competitive basketball in his life, and uses strictly numbers to make roster decisions.

I think he's actually made good moves, but when those moves don't work, it's time to start questioning your methods.

Ironically, the Rockets just fired the guy who has all the real basketball experience and knowledge. Maybe they'll just hire a robot to coach the team? :oldlol:
You did come from the Barkley School of Idiots.

Don't just spew absolute shit because you hear it from another person. Where is your proof that Morey used "numbers" to decide on trading for Lawson. The only numbers that matter is the averages that Lawson put up as a player, which in that case everyone uses numbers to make basketball decisions.

Just because McHale played doesn't mean he's a good coach or GM, because he isn't as either. In that case, Ron Artest would be a world class front office employee.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 01:09 AM

Yet, he still is a valuable trade piece for a team looking for a PG. The fact that we don't need him shows how available he'll be when the trade deadline comes around.

he had almost zero value to those same teams when he was actually playing well.

now hes playing terribly or not even getting off the bench. hes not valuable at all. the fact that houston will want to dump him will not increase his value. :oldlol:

bdreason

11-26-2015, 01:09 AM

Let's not blame the horrible coaching staff and players on the Rockets for how bad they're playing, blame the GM that is doing his job with making the team better on paper.

The GM fired the coach already. If the team doesn't improve, the GM is the next one who gets blamed. That's just how it works.

Like I said earlier, I'm not sure what's even wrong with this team, so it's hard to say who is to blame, and what changes need to be made. I think what this team lacks is an All-Star caliber, veteran leader. Someone who holds all the players accountable. Harden and Howard don't seem to be those type of players.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:12 AM

he had almost zero value to those same teams when he was actually playing well.

now hes playing terribly or not even getting off the bench. hes not valuable at all. the fact that houston will want to dump him will not increase his value. :oldlol:
He had zero value because he was going through his drinking problem, when he clears himself of that drama he'll be a valuable trade piece.

It's not like people forget him averaging 15/10 last year for the Nuggets as their best player and floor general.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:13 AM

Morey is already on the hotseat, but the real problem the past few seasons have been our coaching and role players that have surrounded Harden. Now the problem is the lack of leadership.

fpliii

11-26-2015, 01:14 AM

Morey is already on the hotseat
Seriously? Would be absolutely retarded to replace him.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 01:15 AM

He had zero value because he was going through his drinking problem, when he clears himself of that drama he'll be a valuable trade piece.

It's not like people forget him averaging 15/10 last year for the Nuggets as their best player and floor general.

no one wants a 3rd string pg who is playing like crap making 10 million per year. id love to see the GM lining up offers for that.

bdreason

11-26-2015, 01:15 AM

In that case, Ron Artest would be a world class front office employee.

I'll take Ron Artest's advice on basketball over Daryl Morey's.

If Morey isn't using analytics to make roster decisions, then what is he using? Because he has absolutely ZERO basketball experience.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:18 AM

Seriously? Would be absolutely retarded to replace him.
Morey is a great GM that gets heat just because he didn't play the game.

Morey is out scouting oversees players to bring over and has made moves to improve our team while focusing on our future post-Dwight. He's working hard for the Houston Rockets and has been able to keep this team in the playoff/championship hunt with a lackluster coaching staff.

There's no GM on the market that I'd want replacing Morey.

Phantom_Blue

11-26-2015, 01:25 AM

Someone who holds all the players accountable. Harden and Howard don't seem to be those type of players.

That's the problem and has always been the problem since Harden arrived. The only way this team gets better is if they sign Westbrook or Durant so they can contain him, send Harden's ass back to the bench or more realistically, demand he be traded, so you can build around a real superstar.

You can't prop up one guy to be your savior then expect him to do what you want. He'll just spit in your face and say "Bitch, shut the **** up, you need me, I'm all you got, you said so yourself".

That was Morey's mistake, making this guy "The Man", without knowing who he is as a person.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:29 AM

Being a GM is more than just playing the game. Not everybody has the ability to scout NBA players, oversees players, NCAA players, and D-League players while spending equal time planning for the present and future of your team. Morey has done a great job and has done his job to the best of his abilities. To criticize Morey for the roster he's assembled over the past few years out of what it seems like nothing since he first became to a GM is just petty and agenda driven.

It's now the job of the coaches and players to make the best of what's been handed to them.

The worst decision Morey has made during his tenure is keeping McHale and his assistants around for so long.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:31 AM

That's the problem and has always been the problem since Harden arrived. The only way this team gets better is if they sign Westbrook or Durant so they can contain him, send Harden's ass back to the bench or more realistically, demand he be traded, so you can build around a real superstar.

You can't prop up one guy to be your savior then expect him to do what you want. He'll just spit in your face and say "Bitch, shut the **** up, you need me, I'm all you got, you said so yourself".

That was Morey's mistake, making this guy "The Man", without knowing who he is as a person.
What are you talking about? Are you just trying to garner a reaction or something?

Harden is nothing like that and is one of the best players in the league.

Funktion

11-26-2015, 01:31 AM

Players MVP doe, team needs some direction.

Phantom_Blue

11-26-2015, 01:32 AM

What are you talking about? Are you just trying to garner a reaction or something?

Harden is nothing like that and is one of the best players in the league.

Yo mama.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:34 AM

no one wants a 3rd string pg who is playing like crap making 10 million per year. id love to see the GM lining up offers for that.
Don't be dumb and ignorant. I don't need to explain Ty Lawson's situation anymore, you're just trying to win a debate with foolish opinions about one of the best PGs in the league last season.

I don't know what you have against Lawson and I don't care, whatever you have bottled up should be unleashed somewhere else.

Yao Ming's Foot

11-26-2015, 01:42 AM

People talk about how Morey is trigger happy with trading players, I'd like to know what trade he's made through his tenure since he got Harden was unnecessary or flat out bad.

July 15, 2014: Jeremy Lin traded by the Houston Rockets with a 2015 1st round draft pick and a 2015 2nd round draft pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Sergei Lishchuk.

June 28, 2012: Royce White drafted by the Houston Rockets in the 1st round (16th pick) of the 2012 NBA Draft.

:confusedshrug:

PsychoBe

11-26-2015, 01:43 AM

Trying to decipher this post. Are you saying Curry's presence makes Iguodala and Draymond the players they are? :biggums:

draymond was a nobody struggling to get a roster spot and iggy was a career 9ppg player who never got it done in the post-season except in 2012 when d-rose got injured.

curry makes them look good that's the bottom line plus the chemistry and coaching too ofc

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 01:52 AM

July 15, 2014: Jeremy Lin traded by the Houston Rockets with a 2015 1st round draft pick and a 2015 2nd round draft pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for Sergei Lishchuk.

June 28, 2012: Royce White drafted by the Houston Rockets in the 1st round (16th pick) of the 2012 NBA Draft.

:confusedshrug:
Royce White was bad, more of a personal thing than him turning out to be a straight bust on the court.

The Lin trade was done to make space for a max player, but we ended up settling for Trevor Ariza and a better bench. The following season the Rockets had their best year in over a decade, and we still had a 2015 1st and 2nd to use that draft. At the time it was unnecessary because we didn't get Carmelo or Bosh, but we made the best of it and turned the loss of Lin into more possessions for Harden which turned into 56 wins which turned into a MVP caliber season for our star player.

NugzFan

11-26-2015, 01:52 AM

Don't be dumb and ignorant. I don't need to explain Ty Lawson's situation anymore, you're just trying to win a debate with foolish opinions about one of the best PGs in the league last season.

I don't know what you have against Lawson and I don't care, whatever you have bottled up should be unleashed somewhere else.

fact is he had near zero value 5 months ago (and thats when he was playing well). since then he has played like shit or not at all (like tonight). he makes 10 million dollars a year and plays bad defense. all of these are true. not opinions.

and somehow his value has gone up? yeah, ok. :oldlol:

WorldWarriors

11-26-2015, 02:11 AM

draymond was a nobody struggling to get a roster spot and iggy was a career 9ppg player who never got it done in the post-season except in 2012 when d-rose got injured.

curry makes them look good that's the bottom line plus the chemistry and coaching too ofc

The team is built around Curry. By Curry being able to play off ball allows the other players to handle and make plays. However, it wouldn't work if the players weren't up to the challenge.

Where was Draymond struggling to get a roster spot? I'll admit Curry has had a lot of influence on him in improving his game. But he is the one that actually made himself into the player he is today.

Iggy is a starter on any other team. He was asked to come off the bench by Kerr to let HB start so he could gain some confidence.

Yao Ming's Foot

11-26-2015, 02:30 AM

Royce White was bad, more of a personal thing than him turning out to be a straight bust on the court.

The Lin trade was done to make space for a max player, but we ended up settling for Trevor Ariza and a better bench. The following season the Rockets had their best year in over a decade, and we still had a 2015 1st and 2nd to use that draft. At the time it was unnecessary because we didn't get Carmelo or Bosh, but we made the best of it and turned the loss of Lin into more possessions for Harden which turned into 56 wins which turned into a MVP caliber season for our star player.

Which turned into Harden becoming a Kardashian, trading for another bust and chemistry killer in Ty Lawson, resigning Kevin Mchale and firing him a few weeks into his new contract leaving no cash to hire a competent head coach, overpaying Corey Brewer, overpaying for Patrick Beverley, either overpaying Dwight Howard or trading him for pennies on the dollar next season. :confusedshrug:

Town's Town

11-26-2015, 02:40 AM

Yes his game is built on isos and flopping for freethrows. Him and Dwight are both false "super stars". The eye test reveals that these scrubs are going nowhere.

Artificial superstar.

bobopenguin

11-26-2015, 03:10 AM

Moreys biggest issue is that he is not trusted among his players, cos they know they will be traded anytime.
No one like to get traded around.

bobopenguin

11-26-2015, 03:14 AM

And, yeah, u guys got 56wins, but don't even start bragging that u guys made to wcf spot. It was pure luck. I would be ashamed that if my team wins anything based on luck.

Fallen Angel

11-26-2015, 03:18 AM

Which turned into Harden becoming a Kardashian, trading for another bust and chemistry killer in Ty Lawson, resigning Kevin Mchale and firing him a few weeks into his new contract leaving no cash to hire a competent head coach, overpaying Corey Brewer, overpaying for Patrick Beverley, either overpaying Dwight Howard or trading him for pennies on the dollar next season. :confusedshrug:
None of that was really a reaction from the Lin trade. Harden was the only floor general for the Rockets and was the only player who could create his own offense on the perimeter. If we were to keep Lin then we'd eventually let him go because he wasn't a good fit for the team even back during his last season for the Rockets.

We still needed a floor general to compliment Harden, and Lin was never able to play with Harden effectively because he couldn't shoot threes and play defense well enough to be next to him.

Yao Ming's Foot

11-26-2015, 12:08 PM

None of that was really a reaction from the Lin trade. Harden was the only floor general for the Rockets and was the only player who could create his own offense on the perimeter. If we were to keep Lin then we'd eventually let him go because he wasn't a good fit for the team even back during his last season for the Rockets.

We still needed a floor general to compliment Harden, and Lin was never able to play with Harden effectively because he couldn't shoot threes and play defense well enough to be next to him.

So who is responsible for pieces not fitting together if not Morey? Have they solved that problem now that Lin has gone?

VIP2000

11-26-2015, 02:45 PM

Moreys biggest issue is that he is not trusted among his players, cos they know they will be traded anytime.
No one like to get traded around.

Just ask Aaron Brooks and Joey Dorsey...they each have been traded twice by Morey!

bobopenguin

11-26-2015, 08:53 PM

Just ask Aaron Brooks and Joey Dorsey...they each have been traded twice by Morey!

lol ariza is gonna be the next one.

R.I.P

11-27-2015, 03:53 AM

Why does Morey even bother choosing better players over building chemistry...

Lin, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Asik, Beverley, Garcia, Delfino, and Greg Smith had dynasty potential as a team, you just have to build chemistry. Amirite?

Chemistry what? with diva who call teammate as role player on interview? :roll:

Fallen Angel

11-27-2015, 06:00 AM

So who is responsible for pieces not fitting together if not Morey? Have they solved that problem now that Lin has gone?
The coaches and players.

Ty Lawson, James Harden, Trevor Ariza, Terrence Jones, and Dwight Howard fit on paper as a unit. Nobody ever disagreed with that when the trade was made.

The problem is that Lawson can't defend or score, Ariza can't make a open three, Jones is flat out inconsistent, Howard is afraid to play back to backs, and Harden doesn't trust any of them. The problem is also the amateur coaching staff that has never drawn up a play in their careers.

bobopenguin

11-27-2015, 06:45 AM

The coaches and players.

Ty Lawson, James Harden, Trevor Ariza, Terrence Jones, and Dwight Howard fit on paper as a unit. Nobody ever disagreed with that when the trade was made.

The problem is that Lawson can't defend or score, Ariza can't make a open three, Jones is flat out inconsistent, Howard is afraid to play back to backs, and Harden doesn't trust any of them. The problem is also the amateur coaching staff that has never drawn up a play in their careers.

Funny thing is its Dwight who carried rockets in play off.he should be the one complaining.