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Gus Hemmingway
11-26-2015, 06:37 PM
Just quit the copout, Kobe's elevation is the SAME. Yes folks, it is.

He IS getting the space and separation, IT'S THERE. He HAS the same elevation and often wide open shots, but they're just not going in! Even when he has the wide looks, which is notably often, the shots are clankers, clunkers, even sticking to the rim. Defenders are waiving him off doubles, head up on iso's, Kobe's not getting suffocated or blocked over and over.

Die hard Laker fans you must come to recognize this watching Kobe all the time, it's not his lift, seperation or physical status: his motion is busted and the orientation is way off. And you see it

Lakers fans, do you recognize his shooting form this season? No you don't, something is way off, it just looks so wrong when he shoots. Stumbling on his follow throughs like he got fouled by somebody, every shot. Wobbling on his landings. lol wtf, c'mon Kobe.

People who know ball, it's clear cut. Kobe went from a two step shooting motion to a one motion shooter. And it's has broken his jumper, completely. He has tried to mimic Steph's shooting motion over the summer and it has failed so far. His form is completely different and unrecognizable.

The whole "wwwwaaambulance achilles fault, injuries fault", has been you're go to and it's pathetic seeing how Kobe's shooting form is completely different. And if you still wanna entertain that route about "so many injuries" then Kobe still at fault due to inadequete warmups, poor training, sad nutrition and lazy stretching.

AnaheimLakers24
11-26-2015, 06:39 PM
Happy thanks giving. I know you dont have any loved ones but im here for you. Pm me

Chokefree
11-26-2015, 06:40 PM
Just quit the copout, Kobe's elevation is the SAME. Yes folks, it is.

He IS getting the space and separation, IT'S THERE. He HAS the same elevation and often wide open shots, but they're just not going in! Even when he has the wide looks, which is notably often, the shots are clankers, clunkers, even sticking to the rim. Defenders are waiving him off doubles, head up on iso's, Kobe's not getting suffocated or blocked over and over.

Die hard Laker fans you must come to recognize this watching Kobe all the time, it's not his lift, seperation or physical status: his motion is busted and the orientation is way off. And you see it

Lakers fans, do you recognize his shooting form this season? No you don't, something is way off, it just looks so wrong when he shoots. Stumbling on his follow throughs like he got fouled by somebody, every shot. Wobbling on his landings. lol wtf, c'mon Kobe.

People who know ball, it's clear cut. Kobe went from a two step shooting motion to a one motion shooter. And it's has broken his jumper, completely. He has tried to mimic Steph's shooting motion over the summer and it has failed so far. His form is completely different and unrecognizable.

The whole "wwwwaaambulance achilles fault, injuries fault", has been you're go to and it's pathetic seeing how Kobe's shooting form is completely different. And if you still wanna entertain that route about "so many injuries" then Kobe still at fault due to inadequete warmups, poor training, sad nutrition and lazy stretching.

Honestly what is wrong with you? :facepalm

Do you not have any loved ones to spend time with today? Why are you hating on a guy who doesn't even know you? You go tear your Achilles and go play basketball, see how you do....just stop it, we know who you are, jameer, jt123 etc....

warriorfan
11-26-2015, 06:40 PM
we love you op its ok

catch24
11-26-2015, 06:41 PM
A lot of words saying absolutely nothing. Congrats.

tldr; anybody that knows a thing about basketball, understands that Kobe's decline has everything to do with age and past injuries.

outbreak
11-26-2015, 06:42 PM
Happy thanks giving. I know you dont have any loved ones but im here for you. Pm me
:oldlol:

Gus Hemmingway
11-26-2015, 06:43 PM
A lot of words saying absolutely nothing. Congrats.

tldr; anybody that knows a thing about basketball, understands that Kobe's decline has everything to do with age and past injuries.


Nope anyone who knows basketball, can see Kobe this season has switched to a one motion shooter, from a two motion shooter

ballinhun8
11-26-2015, 07:24 PM
Dude, get a life. It's thanksgiving.


Can Kobe be out of your mind for once? How many Kobe threads do you and your coharts make?

WayOfWade
11-26-2015, 07:28 PM
How many player have ever bounced back just fine from an Achilles injury?

Doranku
11-26-2015, 07:45 PM
Happy thanks giving. I know you dont have any loved ones but im here for you. Pm me
:oldlol:

Gus Hemmingway
11-26-2015, 07:53 PM
How many player have ever bounced back just fine from an Achilles injury?
Dominique Wilkins, at age 32, and came back to average 30 points the following year :confusedshrug:

HenryGarfunkle
11-26-2015, 07:59 PM
Good read

You're spot on IMO. Nothing but excuses from Kobe fans to hide the fact that Kobe can't shoot.

Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Hell even Paul Pierce could all shoot the ball in their late 30's

Kobe can't, and so he's plummeting out of my top 20 all-time list because of it

I<3NBA
11-26-2015, 08:44 PM
he has no lift, i can see it clearly. he isn't the same physically anymore. he can't impose his will on the game using just athleticism.

and that's all right. he shouldn't have to. he still has his brain, doesn't he? it's not like he injured it or something. if he TRULY HAD THE SKILLS, then playing without athleticism should be fine by him.

but his basketball IQ is the most retarded out of any top ten player i have ever seen. he got by on athleticism alone. that's it.

the real myth is that Kobe had mad skillz.

no he didn't. he just had mad hops.

look at Dirk doing the up and under on him. lol. does that move require athleticism? you see Kobe trying it? lololol. he still shooting those fadeaway shots like the retarded player that he is.

sd3035
11-26-2015, 09:15 PM
Honestly what is wrong with you? :facepalm

Do you not have any loved ones to spend time with today? Why are you hating on a guy who doesn't even know you? You go tear your Achilles and go play basketball, see how you do....just stop it, we know who you are, jameer, jt123 etc....

lol

SamuraiSWISH
11-26-2015, 09:25 PM
How many player have ever bounced back just fine from an Achilles injury?
Nique had a career year in 1993 following an Achilles' tendon tear.

It's not the Achilles. He recovered. Can't be used as a built in excuse. He's the one deciding to play. That injury was nearly two and a half years ago now.

The knee injury the next year. Shoulder injury the season after that. His body has been telling him for three years that he's done. He's not listening.

It's one thing to be competitive and confident. It's another to be ego maniacal and delusional. It's becoming increasingly evident without the athleticism and skill he once had that he's the latter. The signs were always there though. His preposterous delusional comments following the 1 for 14 beat down by GS is proof positive of that ... Ever lacking self awareness and always making it about himself. Like he was reminding people of his best season ever because of how less than mortal NBA wise he looks now.

He needs to hang it up. 15/4/4 on like 33 percent shooting and yet to have a 20 point game, already willingly sat out 3 games before even Christmas?! What's the point in him even being out there. He's having no effect on winning basketball games. He's a hindrance offensively. And defensively is nonexistent.

He's making it hard to watch. I thought Jordan on the Wizards at 38 to 40 years old was tough to watch. But dude was putting up 20 to 23 ppg in a more physical, slower offensive era. And doing two to three years older than Kobe is now. What Bryant is doing is just flat out embarrassing.

Genaro
11-26-2015, 09:26 PM
What a bunch of crap. I've stopped reading in the second line.
If we had Thanks given in Brasil I know for sure I would had puke all over my keyboard reading this crap. Make this forum a favor and get a life.

DoctorP
11-26-2015, 09:28 PM
If it's not his elevation then he has to adjust his release.

Chokefree
11-26-2015, 10:14 PM
What a bunch of crap. I've stopped reading in the second line.
If we had Thanks given in Brasil I know for sure I would had puke all over my keyboard reading this crap. Make this forum a favor and get a life.
This is his life....:roll:

FKAri
11-26-2015, 10:28 PM
Actually his shot mechanic is not the same, and never will be due to the combination of achilles and shoulder issues. Look it up. OP sniff glue

Mr. Jabbar
11-26-2015, 10:51 PM
op writes kobe essays during thanksgiving

plowking
11-26-2015, 11:07 PM
I think people need to realise how much Kobe relied on athleticism... Not just him, but nearly all stars do. It is what separates them from the rest 99% of the time.
If he was shooting 45% when he was athletic, what did you expect when he dropped off in his late 30s?
Karl Malone, Kareem, Duncan, etc are an exception to the rule. They are big, tall and strong. Great tools to have one the gap in athleticism between you and the rest of the league closes...

stalkerforlife
11-27-2015, 01:20 AM
Poor Simon.

34-24 Footwork
11-27-2015, 03:09 AM
I think people need to realise how much Kobe relied on athleticism... Not just him, but nearly all stars do. It is what separates them from the rest 99% of the time.
If he was shooting 45% when he was athletic, what did you expect when he dropped off in his late 30s?
Karl Malone, Kareem, Duncan, etc are an exception to the rule. They are big, tall and strong. Great tools to have one the gap in athleticism between you and the rest of the league closes...


Sad day when "sports fans" can't acknowledge that a ruptured achilles and a torn rotator cuff may decrease the levels of production in a particular sport on a professional level.

You have to REALLY hate the guy to not admit that. Lol.

warriorfan
11-27-2015, 03:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1aEaRyR5A

JT123
11-27-2015, 03:25 AM
Sad day when "sports fans" can't acknowledge that a ruptured achilles and a torn rotator cuff may decrease the levels of production in a particular sport on a professional level.

You have to REALLY hate the guy to not admit that. Lol.
Except doctors gave him a completely clean bill of health prior to the season starting. :rolleyes:
Those injuries healed a LONG time ago, and it's time for Kobe stans to stop using them as an excuse. Kobe just sucks without his athleticism/PEDs. You think it's a coincidence that the first season the league starts testing players Kobe suddenly stops making summer trips to Germany? :kobe:

buddha
11-27-2015, 03:38 AM
i enjoyed the gifs the most. that was the best part about your post op. the gifs where you showed us all the two different shots.

I do agree though, his follow through looks retarded. It's obvious this guy doesn't put up shots in the gym like he used too.

Akrazotile
11-27-2015, 04:07 AM
Injury excuses just dont make sense. Remember, Kobe has been injured his WHOLE CAREER (according to what he always tells the media) but hes always "playing through" broken fingers and sprained ankles and so on. His supposed achilles and shoulder injuries are HEALED. Hes not still injured. Even if there was lingering soreness, Kobe "has the highest pain threshhold ever, he works the hardest to heal and play thru it, hes a competitive maniac, hes the most driven warrior blah blah blah."

I think the real issue is theyre not letting him hog the ball quite the way he used to, so he cant get in a rhythm. Hes a 40-45% shooter when in his prime, and fully in rhythm. With a little bit of age and a few less touches? He has no game.

Chokefree
11-27-2015, 06:33 AM
Except doctors gave him a completely clean bill of health prior to the season starting. :rolleyes:
Those injuries healed a LONG time ago, and it's time for Kobe stans to stop using them as an excuse. Kobe just sucks without his athleticism/PEDs. You think it's a coincidence that the first season the league starts testing players Kobe suddenly stops making summer trips to Germany? :kobe:
You seriously have problems.....really just seek help.....im not joking either, you are seriously mentally challenged or something to be posting this type of shit over and over and over again....

HOoopCityJones
11-27-2015, 09:15 AM
JT confirms he a virgin with every new Kobe thread he and his alts make.

HOoopCityJones
11-27-2015, 09:17 AM
Sad day when "sports fans" can't acknowledge that a ruptured achilles and a torn rotator cuff may decrease the levels of production in a particular sport on a professional level.

You have to REALLY hate the guy to not admit that. Lol.

Plo is legally retarded , can't believe ya still taking this bum seriously. :facepalm

Chokefree
11-27-2015, 09:55 AM
JT confirms he a virgin with every new Kobe thread he and his alts make.
Lmao jt123, jameer, gif reaction, gus hemmingway etc....

AirFederer
11-27-2015, 10:01 AM
ScruBe Scrubant :(

Gus Hemmingway
11-27-2015, 02:02 PM
LOL

I would like an explanation why his "injuries" have him jacking up threes at his fastest pace ever? Why are his "injuries" causing him the poorest shot selections of his career?

Both mental aspects of the game, not physical

0000000
11-27-2015, 02:48 PM
Kobe's career effectively ended with that achilles injury.
At the time he was still arguably the best player in the league and had it not happened, he would still be one of the best players in the league IMO. He was aging much better than anyone else and he wasn't showing any signs of slowing down. It's just that the achiles injury is a career ending injury. Last 3 years from him have really been nothing. He can at least stay healthy this year but he is done and he knows it. He is retiring at the end of the year for sure.

SamuraiSWISH
11-27-2015, 03:27 PM
Kobe's career effectively ended with that achilles injury.
At the time he was still arguably the best player in the league and had it not happened, he would still be one of the best players in the league IMO. He was aging much better than anyone else and he wasn't showing any signs of slowing down. It's just that the achiles injury is a career ending injury. Last 3 years from him have really been nothing. He can at least stay healthy this year but he is done and he knows it. He is retiring at the end of the year for sure.
Bro ... be real. LeBron was and still is the best player in the game. But more definitively in 2013.

thefatmiral
11-27-2015, 04:41 PM
I agree. I'm no physical therapist. But why can't he at least make a few wide open jumpers and pass the ball. Even retired athletes can go on the court and still knock down some shots

oh the horror
11-27-2015, 06:02 PM
What's new? OP makes thread, gets completely owned in thread his alts come to "agree" with himself and we all move on.

Gus Hemmingway
11-27-2015, 06:11 PM
"alt this alt that alt waaaaambulance" :cry:

"posts recycled unoriginal GIF"

":lol "

"OWNED HIM BRO"



this is all they got left Lebron fam! :applause:

warriorfan
11-27-2015, 06:13 PM
"alt this alt that alt waaaaambulance" :cry:

"posts recycled unoriginal GIF"

":lol "

"OWNED HIM BRO"



this is all they got left Lebron fam! :applause:

go outside :roll:

JT123
11-27-2015, 06:15 PM
"alt this alt that alt waaaaambulance" :cry:

"posts recycled unoriginal GIF"

":lol "

"OWNED HIM BRO"



this is all they got left Lebron fam! :applause:
:oldlol: As soon as you start accusing people of being alts you've already lost.

Gus Hemmingway
11-27-2015, 06:28 PM
:oldlol: As soon as you start accusing people of being alts you've already lost.

They lost the battle at Kobeville, then they tried joining troops with Roseland Hts, then hopped to the team at Mt. Saint Durantula, now to Currymill, here we go again. :rolleyes:

10 years of losing, abandoned 4 different players.... defeat after defeat


We stay winning with 1 guy, on a butched team, with a shit coach, in a gross city :cheers:

ballinhun8
11-27-2015, 06:36 PM
They lost the battle at Kobeville, then they tried joining troops with Roseland Hts, then hopped to the team at Mt. Saint Durantula, now to Currymill, here we go again. :rolleyes:

10 years of losing, abandoned 4 different players.... defeat after defeat


We stay winning with 1 guy, on a butched team, with a shit coach, in a gross city :cheers:



But you just "joined" this month tho.


How would you know any of that?? How would you know which players they propped up over the last few years on ISH? You or dubeta123?

Gus Hemmingway
11-27-2015, 07:23 PM
But you just "joined" this month tho.


How would you know any of that?? How would you know which players they propped up over the last few years on ISH? You or dubeta123?

Hey guy, newsflash, it's internationally known Kobe fans are disgusted with Lebrons success and insecure of Kobe's.

who says non members don't lurk before registering? Admin might as well have invites only to this site as hard as it is to register

you old washed up ISH Vets all thinking every new member is a "ALT", lmao paranoid clucks, it's a new kingdom, OUR HOUSE NOW :pimp:

ballinhun8
11-27-2015, 07:55 PM
Hey guy, newsflash, it's internationally known Kobe fans are disgusted with Lebrons success and insecure of Kobe's.

who says non members don't lurk before registering? Admin might as well have invites only to this site as hard as it is to register

you old washed up ISH Vets all thinking every new member is a "ALT", lmao paranoid clucks, it's a new kingdom, OUR HOUSE NOW :pimp:


So you trying to say you have been lurking for over four years now? That's really when the Rose hype train began. So you're gonna sit there and say all that.

Sure buddy.


And internationally known?? Last I checked Kobe was more heralded and popular outside the US with the public. And to add that he has more of the accolades that LeBron wants rather than higher fg% and ts%.

tamaraw08
11-27-2015, 08:03 PM
A lot of words saying absolutely nothing. Congrats.

tldr; anybody that knows a thing about basketball, understands that Kobe's decline has everything to do with age and past injuries.

Im sure Tim Duncan, Ginobli, Wade, Pierce would agree with you, are they are all shooting horribly right now.:rolleyes: .

Collie
11-27-2015, 08:11 PM
it's not just the injuries and wear&tear... it's the kind of shots Kobe takes. If Dirk suddenly hoisted ill-advised shots at his age instead of efficient ones, you'd see his efficiency drop as well.

He's 39 year old Kobe playing like he's 29 year old Kobe... THAT's the problem.

tamaraw08
11-27-2015, 08:18 PM
I think people need to realise how much Kobe relied on athleticism... Not just him, but nearly all stars do. It is what separates them from the rest 99% of the time.
If he was shooting 45% when he was athletic, what did you expect when he dropped off in his late 30s?
Karl Malone, Kareem, Duncan, etc are an exception to the rule. They are big, tall and strong. Great tools to have one the gap in athleticism between you and the rest of the league closes...

Great point!:rockon:
Kobe was NEVER a GREAT SHOOTER, heck even a good one, he relied on his explosion and ability to elevate and shoot over players. What is really exposing him is that bec Clarkson did good last year, he has to play at SF where the defenders are 6-8 and up. The past few years can could post up shoot over shorter SGs like Randi Foye, JJ Redick etc, mostly below 6-5.