2015-16 Stephen Curry vs. 2005-06 Kobe Bryant

[J Shuttlesworth]

Raw Stats:
Curry:
32.1 PPG 5.1 RPG 5.9 APG 2.0 STL .512/.431/.938

Kobe:
35.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 5.6 APG 1.8 STL .450/.347/.850

Now since Curry is generally blowing out teams, he isn't playing quite as many minutes, so it's definitely fair to check per 36:

PER 36:
Curry:
33.3 PPG 5.3 RPG 6.2 APG 2.7 SPG

Kobe:
31.1 PPG 4.7 RPG 4.0 APG 1.6 SPG

Advanced:
Curry:
PER: 33.6 TS: 67.6% BPM: 12.8

Kobe:
PER: 28.0 TS: 55.9% BPM: 5.8


Obviously, it's less than a quarter of a season for Curry... Theoretically, if he were able to keep this up for a whole season, would you consider it to be > Kobe's best statistical season?

[Donkey4trading]

Raw Stats:
Curry:
32.1 PPG 5.1 RPG 5.9 APG 2.0 STL .512/.431/.938

Kobe:
35.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 5.6 APG 1.8 STL .450/.347/.850

Now since Curry is generally blowing out teams, he isn't playing quite as many minutes, so it's definitely fair to check per 36:

PER 36:
Curry:
33.3 PPG 5.3 RPG 6.2 APG 2.7 SPG

Kobe:
31.1 PPG 4.7 RPG 4.0 APG 1.6 SPG

Advanced:
Curry:
PER: 33.6 TS: 67.6% BPM: 12.8

Kobe:
PER: 28.0 TS: 55.9% BPM: 5.8


Obviously, it's less than a quarter of a season for Curry... Theoretically, if he were able to keep this up for a whole season, would you consider it to be > Kobe's best statistical season?


sure as hell would be better than lebrons

Kobe had 2 months that year of 40+ ppg and averaged 35+ for three straight months all while playing on a terrible team which made the defense solely focus on him. Curry draws some all time great level defensive attention but the team he has around him definitely makes it easier to find scoring opportunities than playing with smush parker and kwame brown

[CarlosBoozer]

gimme curry

[Quickening]

Per 36 is ridiculous, leaving games early means he is rested for the next game... Not necessary either, curry's per game stats, much better efficiency and slightly better defence puts this year above kobes

[SyRyanYang]

sure as hell would be better than lebrons

Kobe had 2 months that year of 40+ ppg and averaged 35+ for three straight months all while playing on a terrible team which made the defense solely focus on him. Curry draws some all time great level defensive attention but the team he has around him definitely makes it easier to find scoring opportunities than playing with smush parker and kwame brown

That's not a valid point since Kobe always play the way he plays, which is taking contested jumpers regardless of the team. This is evident as his efficiency was pretty consistent even during the 08-10 run.

[kennethgriffin]

kobes only better cause he was also elite on defense ( legit 1st team defender )... curry is a liability... he also had bigger individual games..


i think kobe has more 50 point games just that season than curry has in his entire life


plus kobes half time record that year is higher than currys career high ( 55 > 54 )

[Odinn]

Raw Stats:
Curry:
32.1 PPG 5.1 RPG 5.9 APG 2.0 STL .512/.431/.938

Kobe:
35.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 5.6 APG 1.8 STL .450/.347/.850

Now since Curry is generally blowing out teams, he isn't playing quite as many minutes, so it's definitely fair to check per 36:

PER 36:
Curry:
33.3 PPG 5.3 RPG 6.2 APG 2.7 SPG

Kobe:
31.1 PPG 4.7 RPG 4.0 APG 1.6 SPG

Advanced:
Curry:
PER: 33.6 TS: 67.6% BPM: 12.8

Kobe:
PER: 28.0 TS: 55.9% BPM: 5.8


Obviously, it's less than a quarter of a season for Curry... Theoretically, if he were able to keep this up for a whole season, would you consider it to be > Kobe's best statistical season?
Your perception of fair is flawed IMO.

[kennethgriffin]

2006 kobe

27 games of 40+
6 games of 50+
2 games of 60+
1 game of 70+
1 game of 80+
season high = 81
averaged 43.4ppg during the month of january
averaged 41.6ppg during the month of april
1st team all defense



2015 curry ( 20% of the season completed )

5 games of 40+ ( on pace for 25 )
1 game of 50+ ( on pace for 5 )
0 games of 60+
0 games of 70+
0 games of 70+
season high = 54 ( kobes half time record = 55 )
averaged 31.2 during the month of november




pretty close. but still so much more to do

[Harison]

I would be surprised if Curry was able to stay this hot for the rest of the season. As of now his stats seem better, but prime Kobe was also better defender, so its a wash.

[juju151111]

2006 kobe

27 games of 40+
6 games of 50+
2 games of 60+
1 game of 70+
1 game of 80+
season high = 81
averaged 43.4ppg during the month of january
averaged 41.6ppg during the month of april
1st team all defense



2015 curry ( 20% of the season completed )

5 games of 40+ ( on pace for 25 )
1 game of 50+ ( on pace for 5 )
0 games of 60+
0 games of 70+
0 games of 70+
season high = 54 ( kobes half time record = 55 )
averaged 31.2 during the month of november




pretty close. but still so much more to do
He doesn't need to do all that if he more efficient and plays lower minutes too

[G0ATbe]

Not unless he scores 81+ and outscores an entire team by himself. Keep in mind Kobe did this with Kwame Brown/Smush Parker as his go-to guys while Curry has one of the best teams ever so their really isn't any meaning behind the efficiency differences.

[TrueBlue89]

Curry doesn't need to score 50 because his team are blowing out opponents before the 4th quarter even starts. He's averaging more points than minutes

[Magic 32]

Completely different players.

More like 05-06 Chauncey Billups or 2004-05 Steve Nash on speed.

[Gus Hemmingway]

2014-2016/Curry >>>>> Kobe career


Curry's actually winning games AND playing at such a high level

[DMAVS41]

Unfair comparison. Curry could not be in a better situation on both sides of the ball.

Kobe had very little help.

Now, that doesn't mean Curry is worse or something, but for me, the comparison is just unfair.

[Kvnzhangyay]

kobes only better cause he was also elite on defense ( legit 1st team defender )... curry is a liability... he also had bigger individual games..


i think kobe has more 50 point games just that season than curry has in his entire life


plus kobes half time record that year is higher than currys career high ( 55 > 54 )

Kobe barely played defense that year :biggums:

[IGOTGAME]

Unfair comparison. Curry could not be in a better situation on both sides of the ball.

Kobe had very little help.

Now, that doesn't mean Curry is worse or something, but for me, the comparison is just unfair.

Kobe' stats would be a lot better if you him in the absolute best position to win and get stats...

Put him around a group like 2005-2006

Billups
Bryant
Posey
Odom
Camby

and Kobe is still putting up sick scoring numbers but is giving you about 7/8 assists a game.

[IncarceratedBob]

kobe had entire teams focusing on stopping him, he played so many minutes because that was the only way to get his sorry team to wins, curry has a stacked team like few ever have. even then they average the same number of assists while steph is a pg? gimme kobe.

[Dr Hawk]

One scored in the flow of the game and a LOT more efficiently and created a ton more of spacing for his team. I'm taking that guy

[tmacattack33]

Kobe' stats would be a lot better if you him in the absolute best position to win and get stats...

Put him around a group like 2005-2006

Billups
Bryant
Posey
Odom
Camby

and Kobe is still putting up sick scoring numbers but is giving you about 7/8 assists a game.

Your claim makes no sense, since Kobe has been on multiple teams with lineups even better than the one you listed and never averaged 7-8 assists.

The only time Kobe racked up a lot of assists is when he got attacked in the media for shooting too much...he would then turn into a robotic pass-first player in the next few games, passing up shots just to get the media off his back. He could never score and pass together consistently. His passing vision was just not that good.

[Sarcastic]

Curry hasn't even played in 2016 yet, and we're comparing his 17 games to a full season?

Only on the interweb. :facepalm

[sd3035]

Raw Stats:
Curry:
32.1 PPG 5.1 RPG 5.9 APG 2.0 STL .512/.431/.938

Kobe:
35.4 PPG 5.3 RPG 5.6 APG 1.8 STL .450/.347/.850

Now since Curry is generally blowing out teams, he isn't playing quite as many minutes, so it's definitely fair to check per 36:

PER 36:
Curry:
33.3 PPG 5.3 RPG 6.2 APG 2.7 SPG

Kobe:
31.1 PPG 4.7 RPG 4.0 APG 1.6 SPG

Advanced:
Curry:
PER: 33.6 TS: 67.6% BPM: 12.8

Kobe:
PER: 28.0 TS: 55.9% BPM: 5.8


Obviously, it's less than a quarter of a season for Curry... Theoretically, if he were able to keep this up for a whole season, would you consider it to be > Kobe's best statistical season?


If he keeps these numbers up for a whole season, it will probably be the best season of all time

[Vertical-24]

Unfair comparison. Curry could not be in a better situation on both sides of the ball.

Kobe had very little help.

Now, that doesn't mean Curry is worse or something, but for me, the comparison is just unfair.

Agreed. Curry is playing phenomenal, efficient basketball but he has the luxury of also being on a very talented squad. And though GS is having a legendary opening to the season, Curry's sample size isn't nearly big enough right now.

For now, i'd say they are comparable, but Kobe had the more impressive season. He was the sole focus of opposing defenses and had an all-time terrible squad to play with and defer to.

[Mr Feeny]

kobes only better cause he was also elite on defense ( legit 1st team defender )... curry is a liability... he also had bigger individual games..


i think kobe has more 50 point games just that season than curry has in his entire life


plus kobes half time record that year is higher than currys career high ( 55 > 54 )

You're either trolling or an idiot. 2016 Curry is better than any version of Kobe. When Kobe cracks 50% from the field, this might become a serious discussion. Offensively, Curry is on a different stratosphere.

One is an idiot taking contested fadeaways and shooting like a blind man, while the other guy opens up the floor, provides spacing, and scores HUGE points on incredible efficiency.

[Mr Feeny]

Your claim makes no sense, since Kobe has been on multiple teams with lineups even better than the one you listed and never averaged 7-8 assists.

The only time Kobe racked up a lot of assists is when he got attacked in the media for shooting too much...he would then turn into a robotic pass-first player in the next few games, passing up shots just to get the media off his back. He could never score and pass together consistently. His passing vision was just not that good.

This. That's just plain dumb. Kobe's been on stacked teams in the early 2000's, 2004, 2011-2013 and put nowhere near the numbers Curry did from an efficency standpoint or from a playmaking aspect.

[catch24]

You're either trolling or an idiot. 2016 Curry is better than any version of Kobe. When Kobe cracks 50% from the field, this might become a serious discussion. Offensively, Curry is on a different stratosphere.

One is an idiot taking contested fadeaways and shooting like a blind man, while the other guy opens up the floor, provides spacing, and scores HUGE points on incredible efficiency.

Yeah, Kobe was just an idiot shooting contested fadeaways.

35ppg on 56%TS. What a scrub.

[Mr Feeny]

Yeah, Kobe was just an idiot shooting contested fadeaways.

35ppg on 56%TS. What a scrub.

Compared to Curry, yes. He is a scrub, efficiency wise. If he'd take smarter shots like our main man does, then maybe he'd shoot as well as Curry. As it is, the current MVP is miles ahead. No contest:lol

[Smoke117]

kobes only better cause he was also elite on defense ( legit 1st team defender )... curry is a liability... he also had bigger individual games..


i think kobe has more 50 point games just that season than curry has in his entire life


plus kobes half time record that year is higher than currys career high ( 55 > 54 )

lol...Kobe was above average at best defensively in 2006. That was a clear reputation 1st team all defense selection.

[Akrazotile]

kobes only better cause he was also elite on defense ( legit 1st team defender )... curry is a liability... he also had bigger individual games..


i think kobe has more 50 point games just that season than curry has in his entire life


plus kobes half time record that year is higher than currys career high ( 55 > 54 )



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[VeeCee15]

Curry's WAY BETTER than kobe at his "best"

kobe shot crap percentage, he has "mentality" (disability) to shoot 30 shots a game and drive 30 more times a game.

Curry plays within the FLOW of the offense. If Curry's only desire was to neglect teammates and SCORE he would avg 40 PTS A GAME NO PROBLEM.

[Jacks3]

The crazy thing about Kobe's 2006 season is that he actually got off to a slow start because of the sprained hand injury he suffered in the second game of the season. I think he had a 50% TS through the first 10 games.

In the last 70 games he put up 37/6/5/2/58% TS/116 ORTG/30+ PER. Just nuts.

With that being said...Curry is the better player.

[Cleverness]

kobe was playing with a below average supporting cast.

that being said, Steph makes his team great (what great players do)

http://s4.postimg.org/47c3c129o/the_numbers_dont_lie.jpg

[SpaceJam]

The one thing those two seasons had in common, the GOAT Luke Walton :pimp:

[Rocketswin2013]

You're either trolling or an idiot. 2016 Curry is better than any version of Kobe. When Kobe cracks 50% from the field, this might become a serious discussion. Offensively, Curry is on a different stratosphere.

One is an idiot taking contested fadeaways and shooting like a blind man, while the other guy opens up the floor, provides spacing, and scores HUGE points on incredible efficiency.
Curry actually takes worse shots. Maybe the worst in NBA history.

But he's so good at them, those shots probably take the offense over the top in terms of it's ceiling and explosion.

If you can create the best looks of any team in the league through great fundamental(dirty) screen setting, ball-movement, and getting out in transition after defense, you obviously have a very great offense and an elite one. Maybe the best.

Now add a guy who can hit pretty anything(everything) after a broken play, contested shots after great defensive possessions and senseless early-in-the clock heaves from several feet behind the line...At any time in any game at HIGH volume. You may be looking at the most explosive offense in NBA history.

Kobe was inefficient at times because he wasn't dominant anywhere. Just good from everywhere and could be pretty streaky. I wouldn't really call him that inefficient at all though. High volume + good efficiency = really good player.

Obviously high volume and high efficiency is better and gets you to GOAT-level scoring...