Would you draft Curry or Duncan?

[Marchesk]

To build your franchise around? And I mean knowing what kind of pros they would become, not based on their college careers. And in today's league, not when Duncan came out.

[Pushxx]

Hard question, but if I flipped a coin right now for one, I would hope I got Duncan. Durability is the main reason.

[Dro]

This is still an easy answer for me. You can draft Duncan first in any era, regardless of rules. Not sure you can say that about Curry...

[SugarHill]

Today's league? Curry

[Marchesk]

This is still an easy answer for me. You can draft Duncan first in any era, regardless of rules. Not sure you can say that about Curry...

No, you certainly wouldn't draft Curry first in most eras, but given what he and the Warriors are doing this season, would you start a team out with him, or is Duncan still more valuable?

Say you're the 76ers and you're tired of tanking. A Duncan and a Curry are available next draft. You take ...? (you can always trade Embiid and Okafor)

[DMAVS41]

Guys....please stop this shit.

Duncan has been a great player since 1998. He was one of the best players in the league from 98 through 10...and then has aged very well since.

Curry wasn't a great player for his first 3 years in the league. Curry has been one of the best players for 4 years now. Curry literally has to play at a great level for the next 8 years for this to even be remotely a question.

Way too much unknown on Curry to even entertain drafting him over Duncan.

Duncan came into the league in 98 and was an elite player from day 1.

:facepalm

[FKAri]

Duncan, EASILY. It took Curry a perfect system to do what he's doing now and he won't be doing this in 5 years when his quickness leaves him.

[tmacattack33]

By 27, Duncan will have already given you 6 legendary years.

Curry will have only give you one.





Duncan, easily.

[Cali Syndicate]

I'll take Duncan, thank you very much.

[LoneyROY7]

Curry has the OP so f*cking shook. :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Curry has the OP so f*cking shook. :oldlol:

Why did you take out your question? Anyway, Curry's PP48min are still less than Wilt's 50 pt season, so not that shook.

Anyway, I hope the Warriors win 74 games and lose to the Thunder in WCF, when Durant rips the torch back from Curry (even though it's really Bran's).

[LoneyROY7]

Why did you take out your question? Anyway, Curry's PP48min are still less than Wilt's 50 pt season, so not that shook.

Anyway, I hope the Warriors win 74 games and lose to the Thunder in WCF, when Durant rips the torch back from Curry (even though it's really Bran's).

Not like it matters to you anyways. You'll still have your VHS tapes and a couple grainy youtube clips. :applause:

[Young X]

Curry JUST became an elite player in the 2014 season. He only has 2 years playing at superstar level. Duncan was Duncan from day 1. No brainer.

[sd3035]

Too early to tell. Curry is obviously playing at a higher level than Duncan ever did right now, but Duncan was a really solid player for a very long time. We have to see how Curry's career plays out

[rmt]

Why did you take out your question? Anyway, Curry's PP48min are still less than Wilt's 50 pt season, so not that shook.

Anyway, I hope the Warriors win 74 games and lose to the Thunder in WCF, when Durant rips the torch back from Curry (even though it's really Bran's).

I hope they go undefeated and have so much pressure on them, that they choke.

As far as OP is concerned, that's one stupid question.

[Hopper15]

How many Curry comparison threads are people going to make?

[Kobe_6/8]

Duncan. 3 Finals MVP > 0 Finals MVP.

[SouBeachTalents]

Too early to tell. Curry is obviously playing at a higher level than Duncan ever did right now, but Duncan was a really solid player for a very long time. We have to see how Curry's career plays out

'03 Duncan > current Curry

[IncarceratedBob]

curry has led his team to a ring in todays NBA, duncan hasnt. if we're talking early 2000 nba then duncan but modern ball it's Curry easy. Elite PGs are the future and the today of the NBA

[ArbitraryWater]

'03 Duncan > current Curry

Will have to see if Curry can continue this, if he can, no... too bad no Duncan version outside that year came ever close.

[rmt]

curry has led his team to a ring in todays NBA, duncan hasnt. if we're talking early 2000 nba then duncan but modern ball it's Curry easy. Elite PGs are the future and the today of the NBA

Please tell me how today's NBA would guard 2003 Duncan - he would beast. Surround him with 3 point shooters and wait for the double team.

[Donkey4trading]

Do I get the GOAT coach and 3 HOFer for Duncan to play with every year and do I get some random coach off the street + solid defensive role players for Curry??

[Town's Town]

Duncan, easily.

[rmt]

Will have to see if Curry can continue this, if he can, no... too bad no Duncan version outside that year came ever close.

How close is close?

1999-2000 23.2 pts 12.4 rebs 3.2 asst 2.2 blks
2000-2001 22.2 pts 12.2 rebs 3.0 asst 2.3 blks
2001-2002 25.5 pts 12.7 rebs 3.7 asst 2.5 blks
2002-2003 23.3 pts 12.9 rebs 3.9 asst 2.9 blks
2003-2004 22.3 pts 12.4 rebs 3.1 asst 2.7 blks

Seems pretty close to me. It's just that they won the championship that year - TD is pretty consistent.

[SHAQisGOAT]

As of right now, at least? Still, definitely, Duncan.

[rmt]

Do I get the GOAT coach and 3 HOFer for Duncan to play with every year and do I get some random coach off the street + solid defensive role players for Curry??

In 2003, was Pop a GOAT coach or were Parker, Manu and DRob playing at HOF level?

[T_L_P]

Will have to see if Curry can continue this, if he can, no... too bad no Duncan version outside that year came ever close.

Duncan was better in the 02 Reg than he was in the 03 Reg. He was better in the 03 Playoffs but 02 Playoff Duncan was still insane (28/15/5/4, lead the Playoffs in PER and Box +/-).

03 Duncan had one of the five greatest title runs ever. Of course he never matched that play again.

[Lebronxrings]

Its tough.

Depending on my system and coaching staff and complementary players i would then make a decision. Both curry and duncan are top tier role players who have contributed to some degree on championship teams. In this case, i would take curry. Its easier to build around a shooter than duncan who relies heavily on pop.

[rmt]

Its tough.

Depending on my system and coaching staff and complementary players i would then make a decision. Both curry and duncan are top tier role players who have contributed to some degree on championship teams. In this case, i would take curry. Its easier to build around a shooter than duncan who relies heavily on pop.

LOL - either someone has an agenda, a bad memory or is very heavy on the sarcasm.

[ShawkFactory]

Duncan. More years of championship level play, plain and simple.

Curry this year is there with peak Duncan perhaps but we have to see how he does outside of his absolute best to be compared to the greatest PF ever

[SHAQisGOAT]

Duncan. More years of championship level play, plain and simple.

Curry this year is there with peak Duncan perhaps but we have to see how he does outside of his absolute best to be compared to the greatest PF ever

Nah... Curry can't be put alongside peak Duncan just yet... He's been simply ridiculous but it's only been 17 games... If he keeps this up - or something very close - throughout the year, while still being terrific in the Playoffs and winning a title? Then we'll talk. Timmy was fantastic throughout the 2003 regular-season while winning MVP, and just ****in crazy throughout the 2003 Playoffs while winning the title/FMVP...

[Donkey4trading]

In 2003, was Pop a GOAT coach or were Parker, Manu and DRob playing at HOF level?

what milestone do you have to hit before your inherit abilities of a great coach can be recognized? Pop is top 2 GOAT coach ever, been so since the early 2000's, he can place anybody into his system and make the produce. Duncan played great every series but the Spurs produced by comity, every series somebody else would step up to, Robinson was putting up a .204 WS, S Jax had some great moments

and I really don't know why you guys cling on to that 03 post season, Duncan never got close to producing that way again... but that's another topic for another day.. The Spurs faced some of the weakest competition ever.. The Stephon Marbury Suns, the worst version of the Lakers with an injured Kobe, Dirk getting injured in the middle of their series, the nets..

The Spurs continued to pump out 60 win seasons even Duncan was regressing around 10-12. They made the finals b2b for the first time ever when Duncan took a lesser role, this isn't to disparage Duncan but god damn give some credit to Pop and the rest of the Spurs, there's a reason Duncan can averaged 10 ppg while his team has an elite record.. because he has one of the more stacked teams in the league around him, and has one of the greatest coaches of all time and FO of all time pulling the strings

[warriorfan]

Curry has the OP so f*cking shook. :oldlol:

dude has been making mad meltdown threads about curry lately

:roll:

[SCdac]

Duncan for sure. HOF defender, shot blocker, excellent scorer and playmaker, anchored many successful offenses and has multiple MVP's/Finals MVP's. Consensus #1 pick. Had an immediate impact for the Spurs.

If I could draft "prime" players in today's league, I'd probably pick Duncan, Lebron, and Kobe before Curry quite comfortably, despite Curry's fire shooting and overall talent. Possibly even prime Garnett or Dirk because of what I know about them at this point in time.

Curry is a superstar for sure, but it's also a league where guys like Kawhi and Iggy win Finals MVP's and James flailing Harden was Curry's biggest contender for MVP. Harden can be a beast for sure but it's not exactly contending with prime Shaq, Garnett, Kobe, Dirk, Iverson, McGrady, etc., for MVP all about the same time. Not Curry's fault but clearly it's a new generation and there's going to be new "best of the bests"... Harden, Davis, Griffin, Wiggins, etc.

We're going to see players become the "best in the leagues" that we've never seen but doesn't mean they're better than Jordan, Kareem, Duncan, etc. Hell, if Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love had been healthy last season in the playoffs, would this thread even be posted one has to wonder?

[warriorfan]

Everyone in this thread is ****ing retarded

Draft Curry onto a team with Greg Popavich and one of the GOAT bigmen David Robinson

Draft Duncan onto a team with Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, and Don Nelson and let me know how his career arc turns out

Duncan stans acting like he is the sole reason for his lengthy term of success, not that he joined a team and was able to be mentored by David Robinson and Greg Pop while Curry joined a team getting cold shoulder disses from Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson...

Duncan is great and all but if you objectively look at his career he has been easily one of the most fortunate players in the history of NBA when it comes to being drafted by the right team at the right time when they had all their shit together.

Look I am a Duncan fan and I think he is legit but people need to realize that he has had extremely favorable circumstances through out his career. I would still think about drafting Duncan over Curry but the decision is A LOT closer than posters ITT are making it out to be.

[T_L_P]

what milestone do you have to hit before your inherit abilities of a great coach can be recognized? Pop is top 2 GOAT coach ever, been so since the early 2000's, he can place anybody into his system and make the produce. Duncan played great every series but the Spurs produced by comity, every series somebody else would step up to, Robinson was putting up a .204 WS, S Jax had some great moments

and I really don't know why you guys cling on to that 03 post season, Duncan never got close to producing that way again... but that's another topic for another day.. The Spurs faced some of the weakest competition ever.. The Stephon Marbury Suns, the worst version of the Lakers with an injured Kobe, Dirk getting injured in the middle of their series, the nets..

The Spurs continued to pump out 60 win seasons even Duncan was regressing around 10-12. They made the finals b2b for the first time ever when Duncan took a lesser role, this isn't to disparage Duncan but god damn give some credit to Pop and the rest of the Spurs, there's a reason Duncan can averaged 10 ppg while his team has an elite record.. because he has one of the more stacked teams in the league around him, and has one of the greatest coaches of all time and FO of all time pulling the strings

I don't think anybody would claim Duncan won with a bunch of scrubs, but we're talking about championship help here. You're bragging about 40-year-old Robinson and Jackson being the 2nd best players on a team that won the NBA title? From 00-02 it was Kobe Bryant. In 04 it was Ben Wallace or Chauncey Billups. In 05 it was a peak Manu Ginobili. 06 was Shaq (one year off a self-proclaimed MVP season). In 07, again, it was prime Manu Ginobili. Paul Piece in 08. Pau Gasol in 09/10.

You don't see the difference? Duncan had a great cast of role players but that's what they were: role players, and only a couple of other guys can say they've done that. Duncan, Hakeem and Dirk are the only players in the modern NBA that have won a title without an All-Star teammate, and all three deserve tremendous praise for that.

Also, your comment about Duncan not producing that way again is off. In the 02 Playoffs he put up 28/15/5/4, lead the Playoffs in PER and Box +/-. That was the year where he really didn't have help though. His best teammate in the Lakers series posted a 14/2/4 on .475 TS%, with a GameScore average of 8.3 (10 is considered an 'Average' performance). Then his 3rd option put up 9/3/2.

So that's a great two-year peak that very few have ever matched. People seem to hang onto Shaq's peak even though his lasted two or three years and the preceding ones were filled with sweeps and no leadership from him. :confusedshrug:

Won't even go into your stuff on Pop much. He was almost fired in 99 because he couldn't coordinate off-ball movement for shit, he ran the most vanilla offense in the NBA, and his defense was almost entirely reliant on the greatest 4-5 defensive combo this league has ever seen. What exactly did you seen in 97-03 Pop that screamed "top two GOAT" material? Need I remind you that he was a Division III coach before he landed Duncan and his Playoff record in games without said star is a poultry 1-6, even with the 'great cast' that was David Robinson, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, Sean Elliott etc?

[DMAVS41]

Part of being a great basketball player is being great for a long time.

You don't get comparisons to greats like Duncan for being great for like 3 years before this one max.

Do it for 10 plus years...then we'll talk.

[swagga]

lol this thread. There are TWO sides of the ball.

duncan is a top 10 GOAT.

steph curry isn't even in the top 50. He is just hot this month, he'll revert to last season (MVP-level) averages. Not hating but peak duncan's impact >>>>>>> curry. All that 3p shooting and curry couldn't even get a FMVP vote, he got held in check by an australian rec player. Tells you all you need to know.

[swagga]

Why did you take out your question? Anyway, Curry's PP48min are still less than Wilt's 50 pt season, so not that shook.

Anyway, I hope the Warriors win 74 games and lose to the Thunder in WCF, when Durant rips the torch back from Curry (even though it's really Bran's).

It's only a matter of time till the warriors will get cold in the playoffs, it happens to everybody. If curry has to play defense or is physically defended (delladova style :lol ) he WILL struggle, as we've already seen .. so it isn't quite a wild prediction.

IMO throughout a series westbrook would REALLY tire curry out. But thunder are surefire playoff losers with dion waiters and kanter and that brickfest of an offense.

[warriorfan]

Curry started from the bottom now hes here

Duncan got to start from the top

Get back to me when Duncan takes the most cancerous franchise in the L and turns them into champions

[ShawkFactory]

Nah... Curry can't be put alongside peak Duncan just yet... He's been simply ridiculous but it's only been 17 games... If he keeps this up - or something very close - throughout the year, while still being terrific in the Playoffs and winning a title? Then we'll talk. Timmy was fantastic throughout the 2003 regular-season while winning MVP, and just ****in crazy throughout the 2003 Playoffs while winning the title/FMVP...
I don't disagree. The "perhaps" was a big component of my comment honestly. If he keeps this up he's there.

I don't foresee him really falling off though. He just seems like he gets it

[Genaro]

Of course Duncan had the best career, and it'll probably be that way even when Curry is retired, but talking about today's league, I'm getting Curry.

If you consider Dirk more of a perimeter player, the last time a team won with the best player being a big was 2008 (Garnett). If you think that Garnett wasn't the C's best player then it's 2007 (Duncan himself). That's 8 years. The league has changed and someone with Curry's 3 point ability is more valuable than post up play, even to open up the game for the rest of the team .

[DMAVS41]

Of course Duncan had the best career, and it'll probably be that way even when Curry is retired, but talking about today's league, I'm getting Curry.

If you consider Dirk more of a perimeter player, the last time a team won with the best player being a big was 2008 (Garnett). If you think that Garnett wasn't the C's best player then it's 2007 (Duncan himself). That's 8 years. The league has changed and someone with Curry's 3 point ability is more valuable than post up play, even to open up the game for the rest of the team .

Even in today's league...Curry didn't get as good as Duncan was as a rookie until probably last year.

Do you people not realize this? Curry for his first 3 years didn't sniff rookie Duncan....and was probably worse than rookie Duncan in both 13 and 14...regardless of league.

It wasn't until last year Curry really became an elite player....maybe he was actually elite in 14 to be fair.

You drafting Curry assuming he's great and healthy for the next 10 years...okay...I can get with the idea of that at least.

But he's got to do that...you don't just give a p layer 10 years of greatness...you have to earn it.

[oarabbus]

I would draft both over Jordan

[inclinerator]

since duncan puts up better numbers in the playoffs ill go with him

[bdreason]

Duncan.

[IGOTGAME]

Everyone in this thread is ****ing retarded

Draft Curry onto a team with Greg Popavich and one of the GOAT bigmen David Robinson

Draft Duncan onto a team with Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, and Don Nelson and let me know how his career arc turns out

Duncan stans acting like he is the sole reason for his lengthy term of success, not that he joined a team and was able to be mentored by David Robinson and Greg Pop while Curry joined a team getting cold shoulder disses from Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson...

Duncan is great and all but if you objectively look at his career he has been easily one of the most fortunate players in the history of NBA when it comes to being drafted by the right team at the right time when they had all their shit together.

Look I am a Duncan fan and I think he is legit but people need to realize that he has had extremely favorable circumstances through out his career. I would still think about drafting Duncan over Curry but the decision is A LOT closer than posters ITT are making it out to be.

you are aware that Tim Duncan walked into camp as a rookie and shitted on David Robinson. Tim Duncan wouldnt be getting the cold shoulder from anyone because he was the real ****in deal from day 1.

[warriorfan]

you are aware that Tim Duncan walked into camp as a rookie and shitted on David Robinson. Tim Duncan wouldnt be getting the cold shoulder from anyone because he was the real ****in deal from day 1.

for one I dont know about this shitting on him in training camp but Robinson was coming back from severe back and foot injuries and was no way near 100% during training camp

for 2 tim down low duncan would not get any respect if he joined the 2009 golden state warriors. it would of been a cancerous enviornment and passive ass duncan wouldn't do shit about it. duncan is a very passive, not rock the boat type guy the problem is you have to already have a stable culture for that to work, i.e. a franchise that has popavich and one of the most respected and classy vets in the game with David Robinson.

face the facts tim duncan lucked himself into one of the best situations of all time...perhaps OF ALL TIME. duncan is still top 10 All Time Great regardless but we have to be honest of the circumstances and not revise history

[oarabbus]

Duncan is so good as a two way player he could have this Sixers team at a 2-15, maybe 3-14 record :bowdown:

Sadly, I have to acknowledge they'd still be winless with Curry.

[DMAVS41]

Everyone in this thread is ****ing retarded

Draft Curry onto a team with Greg Popavich and one of the GOAT bigmen David Robinson

Draft Duncan onto a team with Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, and Don Nelson and let me know how his career arc turns out

Duncan stans acting like he is the sole reason for his lengthy term of success, not that he joined a team and was able to be mentored by David Robinson and Greg Pop while Curry joined a team getting cold shoulder disses from Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson...

Duncan is great and all but if you objectively look at his career he has been easily one of the most fortunate players in the history of NBA when it comes to being drafted by the right team at the right time when they had all their shit together.

Look I am a Duncan fan and I think he is legit but people need to realize that he has had extremely favorable circumstances through out his career. I would still think about drafting Duncan over Curry but the decision is A LOT closer than posters ITT are making it out to be.

What?

This makes no sense.

Draft Duncan to any team....and simply as a player as a rookie...he was better than Curry was as a player through Curry's first 4 years at least.

This has nothing to do with help or coaching. Duncan was just flat out better than Curry from the jump and it wasn't close.

You are talking like Curry could have led teams to titles his first few years....he absolutely wasn't ready early on in his career. He has improved so much as a player overall. He's become so much better at managing games, passing, defense, and decision making...

This shit has to stop.

[warriorfan]

What?

This makes no sense.

Draft Duncan to any team....and simply as a player as a rookie...he was better than Curry was as a player through Curry's first 4 years at least.

This has nothing to do with help or coaching. Duncan was just flat out better than Curry from the jump and it wasn't close.

You are talking like Curry could have led teams to titles his first few years....he absolutely wasn't ready early on in his career. He has improved so much as a player overall. He's become so much better at managing games, passing, defense, and decision making...

This shit has to stop.


if Curry joins one of the best teams in the league with an All Time Great Guard to mentor him he could of easily exploded into the league much like Duncan did

Curry gets better faster if he is drafted into a situation like DUncan's

Duncan takes longer to get better if he is drafted into a situation like Curry's

these are the facts

deal with them

[bdreason]

if Curry joins one of the best teams in the league with an All Time Great Guard to mentor him he could of easily exploded into the league much like Duncan did

Curry gets better faster if he is drafted into a situation like DUncan's

Duncan takes longer to get better if he is drafted into a situation like Curry's

these are the facts

deal with them


Duncan was infinitely better and more polished in his rookie year. He would have changed the Warriors culture from day 1. It took Curry years of hard work and improvement to achieve what Duncan achieved in his first season.

[oarabbus]

if Curry joins one of the best teams in the league with an All Time Great Guard to mentor him he could of easily exploded into the league much like Duncan did

Curry gets better faster if he is drafted into a situation like DUncan's

Duncan takes longer to get better if he is drafted into a situation like Curry's

these are the facts

deal with them


Duncan has an elite impact on the game regardless of the team or situation or coach, from day 1. Do not take lightly a man who could have led this Sixers team to a 3-14 record.

[DMAVS41]

if Curry joins one of the best teams in the league with an All Time Great Guard to mentor him he could of easily exploded into the league much like Duncan did

Curry gets better faster if he is drafted into a situation like DUncan's

Duncan takes longer to get better if he is drafted into a situation like Curry's

these are the facts

deal with them

No, he doesn't...that isn't a fact. Sorry, do you know what a fact is?

Duncan needed no time to get better...he was an elite player from day 1. Yea...he got better like every player does, but he didn't need time.

Curry was not ready to explode like Duncan was. He was not ready to be a championship first option early on in his career. This doesn't mean he was bad...he was very good early on, but he wasn't an elite player yet

[warriorfan]

No way bros

Don Nelson gives Tim Duncan 20 mins a game and tries to turn him into a Small Forward for a few years at least

[DMAVS41]

No way bros

Don Nelson gives Tim Duncan 20 mins a game and tries to turn him into a Small Forward for a few years at least

There is no universe in which Duncan plays 20 minutes a game as a rookie...

And there is no way he'd play him at sf. Nellie would have played him at center and gone small everywhere else...and they would have been probably pretty damn good with Ellis/Duncan

They certainly don't win 26 games only...

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

I really like the SPurs and Tim Duncan because of the way they play and the professionalism they display. But, to act like Tim's long Time Success has nothing to do with being put in the most stable environment as a player in NBA history is simply ludicrous. Most Players would do anything to be coached by Pop Since day 1 and with such a great Front office. Only on the spurs can the Man average 10-15 and still be an elite team. If Tim was drafted to another team he would still be great but his longevity would not be there. This longevity is why most consider him to be top 10 if not top 7 all time.

[Akrazotile]

This question is an insult to Timmy

[rmt]

No, he doesn't...that isn't a fact. Sorry, do you know what a fact is?

Duncan needed no time to get better...he was an elite player from day 1. Yea...he got better like every player does, but he didn't need time.

Curry was not ready to explode like Duncan was. He was not ready to be a championship first option early on in his career. This doesn't mean he was bad...he was very good early on, but he wasn't an elite player yet

Maybe he needs a reminder of rookie Duncan:

All-NBA 1st team
All-Defensive 2nd team
All-Star
5th in MVP voting
ROY

21.1 pts 11.9 rebs 2.7 asst 2.9 blks 54.9%FG 108 ORtg 95 DRtg 12.8 WS 5.5 BPM 6 VORP

[AnaheimLakers24]

Curry, dont need no fagggots on my team

[Akrazotile]

Curry, dont need no fagggots on my team

Gotta eliminate the competition, right?

[ShawkFactory]

for one I dont know about this shitting on him in training camp but Robinson was coming back from severe back and foot injuries and was no way near 100% during training camp

for 2 tim down low duncan would not get any respect if he joined the 2009 golden state warriors. it would of been a cancerous enviornment and passive ass duncan wouldn't do shit about it. duncan is a very passive, not rock the boat type guy the problem is you have to already have a stable culture for that to work, i.e. a franchise that has popavich and one of the most respected and classy vets in the game with David Robinson.

face the facts tim duncan lucked himself into one of the best situations of all time...perhaps OF ALL TIME. duncan is still top 10 All Time Great regardless but we have to be honest of the circumstances and not revise history
Bruh...I get the trolling and having fun or whatever. But don't type essays about something you don't know about.

[rmt]

I really like the SPurs and Tim Duncan because of the way they play and the professionalism they display. But, to act like Tim's long Time Success has nothing to do with being put in the most stable environment as a player in NBA history is simply ludicrous. Most Players would do anything to be coached by Pop Since day 1 and with such a great Front office. Only on the spurs can the Man average 10-15 and still be an elite team. If Tim was drafted to another team he would still be great but his longevity would not be there. This longevity is why most consider him to be top 10 if not top 7 all time.

I think you have it the other way around. It is because of Duncan why they have a stable environment. It's because of his professionalism and willingness to be coached that Pop has an easy time getting everyone to buy into the system.

Believe it or not, the Spurs were not the model organization that it is today. Pop was not considered a great coach - he was on the verge of being fired at the beginning of the 98-99 season. But Avery fired up the team, they turned a losing record around and went on to win the championship. That's why Avery's jersey is flying in the rafters - because he saved Pop's ass.

[warriorfan]

I think you have it the other way around. It is because of Duncan why they have a stable environment. It's because of his professionalism and willingness to be coached that Pop has an easy time getting everyone to buy into the system.

Believe it or not, the Spurs were not the model organization that it is today. Pop was not considered a great coach - he was on the verge of being fired at the beginning of the 98-99 season. But Avery fired up the team, they turned a losing record around and went on to win the championship. That's why Avery's jersey is flying in the rafters - because he saved Pop's ass.

Having David Robinson as a tenured vet and Greg Pop as your head coach is a stable environment. This was established before Duncan came.

Then having a solid team with your elite player injured so you can draft the best recruit out of college the next year AS your star elite player comes back from Injury. This is seriously a perfect storm of events for Tim Duncan. We are not trying to belittle Duncan's accomplishments but YOU CANT neglect the fact that Tim Duncan was extremely fortunate in his circumstances.

[HenryGarfunkle]

I'd take Tim Duncan RIGHT NOW over peak curry in a playoff series.

Drafting from scratch? Tim Duncan every day and **** the OP for asking

[IGOTGAME]

Having David Robinson as a tenured vet and Greg Pop as your head coach is a stable environment. This was established before Duncan came.

they made Duncan into an MVP candidate in training camp. ok, i see.

[warriorfan]

they made Duncan into an MVP candidate in training camp. ok, i see.

would duncan be an MVP candidate if he was drafted by the 2016 76ers?















hold this ether my *****

[rmt]

Curry, dont need no fagggots on my team

Don't let jealously make you do something you'll regret. You know Kobe needs a great big more than he needs a PG who has to have the ball in his hands. How would that work - both Kobe and Curry needing the ball. Duncan, otoh, is quite willing to give the ball up to Kobe, take a back seat and ooh-la-la, that defense, work ethic and shunning the limelight to let Kobe get it all. Sounds like a match made in heaven - let me count the rings.

[IGOTGAME]

would duncan be an MVP candidate if he was drafted by the 2016 76ers?













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he would be a top 5 player in the league. He would also be an all star and first team all nba.

He wouldnt have the team record to be the MVP (he was 5th as a rookie) but he would be a top 10 MVP candidate.

he might be defensive player of the year too

[ShawkFactory]

would duncan be an MVP candidate if he was drafted by the 2016 76ers?















hold this ether my *****
He's one of the best players of all time so....yea...