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Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 07:45 PM
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The Washington Wizards opened the season with high expectations after reaching the Eastern Conference semifinals. Instead, they're struggling through a drama-filled month.

In their first meeting since a first-round playoff sweep, the Wizards hope to avoid their fourth consecutive defeat Saturday night when they host the surging Toronto Raptors.

Bradley Beal averaged 20.8 points, Marcin Gortat added 17.3 points and 10.0 rebounds and John Wall scored 17.3 to go along with 12.5 assists as Washington eased past the Raptors last postseason.

The Wizards then lost to Atlanta in a six-game conference semifinal series after Wall suffered a broken left wrist in the opener. After an offseason in which its star point guard could heal, Washington was projected to be one of the top teams in the conference.

The Wizards, however, haven't played that way as they fell to 6-7 following Friday's 111-78 loss at Boston. They've allowed an average of 96.5 points in wins but a whopping 115.6 in defeats.

Coach Randy Wittman already stirred things up Nov. 10 when he called the team "too soft" following a 125-101 home loss to Oklahoma City that capped its first three-game skid. More recently, Wall reportedly criticized Wittman by saying he shouldn't have been on the bench with Beal early in a six-point fourth quarter that led to Wednesday's 101-87 loss at Charlotte.

Jared Dudley had 19 points and Beal added 16 on Friday, but Wall scored 10 on 4-of-11 shooting and Gortat had four while missing seven of eight from the field. The Wizards shot 32.1 percent and committed 22 turnovers.

"You can't play this game solely based on if you're making or missing shots," Wittman said. "We have energy to start the game, but when we miss shots we lose that."

Wall has played better at home, scoring 17.2 per game. He's averaged 19.7 points and 11.7 assists in his last six against Toronto, including the playoffs.

Washington had dropped seven of eight regular-season meetings before its postseason sweep.

Two-time defending Atlantic Division champion Toronto similarly scuffled during a 2-6 stretch before turning things around with road wins over both Los Angeles teams. The Raptors (10-6) then pulled off perhaps their best victory Wednesday, 103-99 over visiting Cleveland.

"We're excited about the win, no question," coach Dwane Casey said. "But we can't go over the moon and lose our focus and lose sight of continuing to improve in a lot of areas."

The Raptors have done that on the defensive end, giving up an average of 90.8 points in their last four games after they had surrendered 103.4 over the previous five.

Kyle Lowry led the way with 27 points Wednesday, DeMar DeRozan scored 20 and Bismack Biyombo had 11 points and 12 rebounds while filling in for injured starter Jonas Valanciunas. The 7-foot center is expected to miss at least six weeks because of a broken left hand.

Lowry has been on a roll with 20 points or more in eight of the past nine games. The All-Star point guard has averaged 20.8 points in his last four trips to Washington, including the playoffs.

The Wizards can't be happy about seeing DeMarre Carroll again. He averaged 16.7 points and made 11 of 27 (40.7 percent) from 3-point range for the Hawks in last season's playoff series.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 07:47 PM
I see that Jared Dudley will be making the start, according to ESPN's site.

Embers
11-28-2015, 08:04 PM
WTF are the Wiz doing?

If they are that desperate they are starting Jared Dudley why the hell are they not just trading for a PF. Easiest position to get a player in for as well

Id just go after Channing Frye if I was Wizards. Fits what they need. Should only have to give up what they are already benching to get him too

Pushxx
11-28-2015, 08:22 PM
WTF are the Wiz doing?

If they are that desperate they are starting Jared Dudley why the hell are they not just trading for a PF. Easiest position to get a player in for as well

Id just go after Channing Frye if I was Wizards. Fits what they need. Should only have to give up what they are already benching to get him too

The problem is less talent and more coaching. Wittman broke the team with his half-assed new offense. When I watch them play defense it looks like it's their first time playing together every time. They need a lot of soul-searching and practices.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 08:31 PM
Both teams are playing tough defense but are also missing some open looks.

Embers
11-28-2015, 08:32 PM
Ive had enough. Gonna go to the toilet and do a John Wall

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 08:34 PM
Ross and Patterson need to just gun 3's. Stop trying to do anything off the dribble.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 08:55 PM
Oh shit, Beal twisted his ankle. Dude can't catch any good luck with his body.

Embers
11-28-2015, 08:56 PM
Oh shit, Beal twisted his ankle. Dude can't catch any good luck with his body.

Is a D Rose like softcock too so will probably miss the next 4 weeks id say

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 09:08 PM
Despite the 13 turnovers (:facepalm), only down by 6 points.


Need to takeoover in the 3rd quarter. It's been their quarter for most of this season.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 09:36 PM
Missing too many easy looks. Add the turnovers, Kyle's 4 fouls, and this is a recipe for disaster.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 09:39 PM
I'm okay with Wall shooting so terribly. He needs reps to get his shot going again. Also, he's still playing hard on defense.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 09:41 PM
I'm okay with Wall shooting so terribly. He needs reps to get his shot going again. Also, he's still playing hard on defense.

Think Randy's done if the Wiz keep losing ?

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 09:49 PM
Think Randy's done if the Wiz keep losing ?

I don't know honestly. Beal's injury for a few games is when it started to go downhill. I wouldn't put this all on Randy, I think it's more the fact that Beal was out and our games were so spaced out. Had we played more games, our guys would've kept their rhythm better. Once the season gets a bit deeper in, I think they will start playing better. I can't wait to see games 1-3 John Wall again, but for now, he's basically a super-athletic defensive specialist.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:04 PM
^Yeah, good insight. I agree with all that. Wizards have started slow in the past.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:06 PM
^Yeah, good insight. I agree with all that. Wizards have started slow in the past.

Usually, Wall starts the season really poorly. I was hoping that trend had changed after the first few games, but I guess not haha.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:08 PM
There you go, John!

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:12 PM
Toronto has hung it's hat on defense all night, but their offense just hasn't rewarded it.


Poor practice and missing JV Iis probably the best reasoning for this but there's no excuses. They can't keep playing hero ball.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:15 PM
This game is so bad lol

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:17 PM
This game is so bad lol

Yup. :oldlol:

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:18 PM
I'm dying :roll: :roll:

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:20 PM
Big FTs there John, well done.

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:20 PM
I'm happy it's Saturday, man. Forgetting this game with the quickness.

:lol

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:26 PM
John... :(

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:26 PM
Oh shit.... one last chance ???

BurningHammer
11-28-2015, 10:27 PM
Thank you, Wiz! :cheers:

Let's see if this Raps can take it.

Milbuck
11-28-2015, 10:27 PM
Lmfao Wall are you kidding me?

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:27 PM
John.... :(

Knowing Toronto, we're not getting a shot off.

:oldlol:

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:27 PM
Thank you, Wiz! :cheers:

Let's see if this Raps can take it.

Oh look, out of hiding I see? :lol

BurningHammer
11-28-2015, 10:28 PM
COJO!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:28 PM
cojo Holy Shit !!!!!!!!

04mzwach
11-28-2015, 10:28 PM
Wizards epic choke! Epic choke! Down by 11 a few minutes ago I thought?

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:28 PM
Sigh... :cry:

Milbuck
11-28-2015, 10:28 PM
Cory Joe for the W :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:29 PM
Wizards epic choke! Epic choke! Down by 11 a few minutes ago I thought?

No. It was 8 with like 5 minutes left.

Kungfro
11-28-2015, 10:29 PM
Cory Joe!

BurningHammer
11-28-2015, 10:29 PM
Oh look, out of hiding I see? :lol
I was busy til the last 2 minutes.

Great 2 minutes :D

Legends66NBA7
11-28-2015, 10:29 PM
Easy guys, I'm about to fade tonight.

:cheers:


Cheer up Wiz fans ! Till next time.

SugarHill
11-28-2015, 10:30 PM
raps suck. I knew they'd lose

HenryGarfunkle
11-28-2015, 10:30 PM
Wall is a notorious choke artist

:oldlol:

MMM
11-28-2015, 10:31 PM
The Wiz don't look like a playoff team this year

WorldWarriors
11-28-2015, 10:32 PM
Corey Joseph clutch. Wall choked.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:32 PM
The Wiz don't look like a playoff team this year

It all depends on if Wall wakes up or not.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:33 PM
Corey Joseph clutch. Wall choked.

Thanks for the insight, Madden.

Relinquish
11-28-2015, 10:34 PM
Wall is a notorious choke artist

:oldlol:

Notorious?

The guy has been in a slump for a while now this season. His issues right now are beyond "clutch" scenarios.

Milbuck
11-28-2015, 10:34 PM
The Wiz don't look like a playoff team this year
They've always been mediocre as f*ck outside of John Wall. If he's not playing well they're nothing.

SugarHill
11-28-2015, 10:37 PM
beal is having a good year. his best yet actually

HenryGarfunkle
11-28-2015, 10:37 PM
Notorious?

The guy has been in a slump for a while now this season. His issues right now are beyond "clutch" scenarios.
Trust me i'm well aware. I've just seen plenty of chokes at the ends of games from this guy

Wall stinks right now, no question about it. He plays out of control and can't buy a damn bucket.

04mzwach
11-28-2015, 10:39 PM
beal is having a good year. his best yet actually
Really? He's been injured..

BurningHammer
11-28-2015, 10:39 PM
The shot reminds me than Joseph did one for Team Canada to beat Mexico for the bronze at FIBA Americas few months ago.

Milbuck
11-28-2015, 10:42 PM
beal is having a good year. his best yet actually
He started off hot and then went down and has been mediocre at best since coming back. And even at his best he's not close to what other PGs have had. Curry is on a loaded team. CP has a stacked roster with a top 5 MVP candidate in Blake. Lillard had super balanced starting 5 (Wes, Batum, RoLo) with a beast in Aldridge. Westbrook has the best scorer of his generation. Kyrie has a top 10 player all time and Love.

Wall has consistently had some of the most mediocre casts of any star PG in the league

T_L_P
11-28-2015, 10:45 PM
Miss u buddy :applause:

Prime_Shaq
11-28-2015, 11:24 PM
Why wasn't Lowry doing anything during the last play?

Corey :bowdown:

bdreason
11-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Think Randy's done if the Wiz keep losing ?


He should've already been fired.

BurningHammer
11-29-2015, 01:17 AM
Wonder what Steve Buckhantz called for this buzzer beater?

yeaaaman
11-29-2015, 01:28 AM
Wonder what Steve Buckhantz called for this buzzer beater?

"DAGGGGEERRR!!"

or..

"NOOOOOOOO, NOT POSSIBLE, BUT HE DID IT!! NOT POSSIBLE, BUT HE DID IT AGAIN!!"

ArbitraryWater
11-29-2015, 09:37 AM
Very entertaining game.. I re-watched it, damn Raps kinda pissed me off with the chances they wasted, and the amount of bad shots in the last 20 seconds surprised me, then, Corey Joseph :bowdown: kept my bet on course :oldlol: :pimp:

Legends66NBA7
11-29-2015, 10:34 AM
Very entertaining game.. I re-watched it, damn Raps kinda pissed me off with the chances they wasted, and the amount of bad shots in the last 20 seconds surprised me, then, Corey Joseph :bowdown: kept my bet on course :oldlol: :pimp:

I wouldn't call this game very entertaining. I think both Relinquish and I thought this game really sloppy and both teams missed their chances to either come back and tie it sooner or blow it open.

Cory's shot will live on Raptors lore, but in a forgetable overall game.