View Full Version : Muslims FINALLY Speak Out Against ISIS
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 03:38 PM
As some of you know, I live in the birthplace of religious freedom in America. My neighborhood has been deemed by Harvard/UPenn professors as "perhaps the most extreme case of religious pluralism in the world" (http://pluralism.org/affiliates/shanson/). Many different races, cultures, religions live on top of each other with virtually no incidences of tension or violence. It's a regular occurrence to see some sort of impromptu religious or cultural parade or event. Today was one such instance- I walked out of a Duane Reade and noticed police barricades and people gathering on an adjacent street.
I noticed a group of Muslims praying on a tarp that was laid out in the middle of the street, and some kids holding familiar flags. I've seen those at many an Islamic religious rite in the neighborhood.
http://s8.postimg.org/h4p77a8tx/Parade_2.jpg
But what really caught my attention was this:
http://s4.postimg.org/7bouykvxp/Parade_1.jpg
That's the lead car of the procession. Some of the signs read 'Death 2 Daish/ISIS', 'ISIS preaches Murder', and 'Those who support Daish/ISIS terrorism are traitors of peace'.
It took a while, but the Muslims finally got together to condemn radical Islamic terrorism. :applause:
Now I will patiently wait for White Christians to do the same with their terrorists.
fiddy
11-29-2015, 03:41 PM
That flag looks, kind of like the flag of Al Nusra
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 03:44 PM
That flag looks, kind of like the flag of Al Nusra
They're down with Al Qaeda last I checked. So technically, the anti-ISIS propaganda does not conflict with their agenda.
DonD13
11-29-2015, 03:48 PM
:applause:
so when are Christians going to speak out against Breivik?
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 03:50 PM
:applause:
so when are Christians going to speak out against Breivik?
I don't know, brother. But if/when they do... I'll be there to take pictures.
There's only so long they can keep using the 'lone wolf, mentally disturbed' line.
BoutPractice
11-29-2015, 04:27 PM
And thus, the problem was solved as ISIS instantly collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions.
Oh wait.
DonD13
11-29-2015, 04:31 PM
And thus, the problem was solved as ISIS instantly collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions.
Oh wait.
what contradiction?
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 04:34 PM
:applause:
so when are Christians going to speak out against Breivik?
Pretty sure the Christian media in the Western World was speaking out against Breivik since the beginning of Breivik's murder spree. Breivik is universally spoken out against in the Western World.
fiddy
11-29-2015, 04:34 PM
:applause:
so when are Christians going to speak out against Breivik?
:no:
Breivik=GOAT Scandinavian
dude77
11-29-2015, 04:46 PM
whites are the one group who always immediately condemn and ostracize their violent criminals .. meanwhile blacks glorify them, constantly defend them and make them into martyrs(mikey brown, tray tray, every other criminal in jail they want 'freed') .. .. muslims I don't know .. it's good to see them protesting here but for the most part, they can't do that shit in their homelands for obvious reasons so it's more complicated with them
tomtucker
11-29-2015, 04:57 PM
:no:
Breivik=GOAT Scandinavian
:rockon: 10 guys like him = europe would be saved from the invading forces
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 06:30 PM
Quentin Daddantino doin' work (https://youtu.be/GBn5qEQxngg)
Some of the women marchers kept yelling about Imam Hussein. No clue what that was all about. :confusedshrug:
imdaman99
11-29-2015, 06:32 PM
You live near Main St? Should have told me, I would have got you inside the crowd unharmed lol :cheers:
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 06:36 PM
You live near Main St? Should have told me, I would have got you inside the crowd unharmed lol :cheers:
Were you out there today? :lebronamazed:
What was this all about? Honestly I don't really pay attention to stuff like this since there's always some kind of religious celebration/parade/etc going on around here. Just a part of life in Flushing.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 06:44 PM
Were you out there today? :lebronamazed:
What was this all about? Honestly I don't really pay attention to stuff like this since there's always some kind of religious celebration/parade/etc going on around here. Just a part of life in Flushing.
It was a pro-Al Quaeda anti-ISIS protest.
imdaman99
11-29-2015, 06:52 PM
Were you out there today? :lebronamazed:
What was this all about? Honestly I don't really pay attention to stuff like this since there's always some kind of religious celebration/parade/etc going on around here. Just a part of life in Flushing.
Yeah I was there :lol It's about Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Holy Prophet. He stood up against tyrants a long time back against Yazid. The Tragedy of Karbala.
Also, before NickYoung spreads more lies, the poster says 'Those who support Daish/ISIS Taliban terrorism are traitors of peace.' Taliban is written there for the sake of ignorant ppl :lol But make no mistake, we are against all terrorism.
No Muslim is pro Taliban or Isis or Daesh. At least no one I know. And anyone who is? They need to re-evaluate their existence.
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:00 PM
Implying there is a Christian terrorist organization remotely similar to Isis. **** off
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 07:01 PM
Yeah I was there :lol It's about Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Holy Prophet. He stood up against tyrants a long time back against Yazid. The Tragedy of Karbala.
Oh, OK that makes sense now then. I remember vaguely my cousin talking about the whole Ali vs Yazid thing when I was a kid (He converted to Islam from Jehovah's Witness).
The whole time I kept thinking 'Who the hell is this Imam Hussein they're yelling about?' :confusedshrug:
Thought he was locked up somewhere and this was a rally to set him free. :oldlol:
Implying there is a Christian terrorist organization remotely similar to Isis. **** off
You need to read through my Al Craqa thread bro. Right Wing extremist militias are America's biggest terrorist threat by a country mile.
McVeigh, Roof, and most recently Dear.
How many ISIS terrorist attacks have occurred on the American homeland the past 5 years?
Now run off how many Al Craqa attacks have gone down in the same period.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 07:08 PM
You need to read through my Al Craqa thread bro. Right Wing extremist militias are America's biggest terrorist threat by a country mile.
McVeigh, Roof, and most recently Dear.
How many ISIS terrorist attacks have occurred on the American homeland the past 5 years?
Now run off how many Al Craqa attacks have gone down in the same period.
Pretty sure that Muslim terrorists that do things like hijack planes, blow up skyscrapers, and lay siege to Paris are a bigger threat to America.
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:10 PM
Oh, OK that makes sense now then. I remember vaguely my cousin talking about the whole Ali vs Yazid thing when I was a kid (He converted to Islam from Jehovah's Witness).
The whole time I kept thinking 'Who the hell is this Imam Hussein they're yelling about?' :confusedshrug:
Thought he was locked up somewhere and this was a rally to set him free. :oldlol:
You need to read through my Al Craqa thread bro. Right Wing extremist militias are America's biggest terrorist threat by a country mile.
McVeigh, Roof, and most recently Dear.
How many ISIS terrorist attacks have occurred on the American homeland the past 5 years?
Now run off how many Al Craqa attacks have gone down in the same period.
What did these attackers have to do with Christianity again? Also, how much more white people are there in the U.S compared to Muslims? Your understanding of statistics is garbage
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 07:14 PM
Pretty sure that Muslim terrorists that do things like hijack planes, blow up skyscrapers, and lay siege to Paris are a bigger threat to America.
You say this a few days after Robert Lewis Dear executed another in a long line of terrorist attacks on planned parenthood alone. :facepalm
Again, when was the last time ISIS pulled off a hijacking, blowing up anything, or laying siege to our cities? Even if they pulled off one of those things in spectacular fashion... they'd just be tied with Timothy McVeigh on his own.
We're like maybe 5th on ISIS' to do list behind the Shi'a Muslims, Assad, Yazidi/Turks, and now Putin's dumbass.
What did these attackers have to do with Christianity again? Also, how much more white people are there in the U.S compared to Muslims? Your understanding of statistics is garbage
You poor ignorant fool. Look up Christian terrorists (AKA like the one from Friday) and their attacks on Planned Parenthood.
Timothy McVeigh's terror campaign was in response to what happened to the Seventh Day Adventists/Branch Davidians.
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:18 PM
Did Jesus ever preach or do anything that could even be construed as violent?
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:24 PM
You say this a few days after Robert Lewis Dear executed another in a long line of terrorist attacks on planned parenthood alone. :facepalm
Again, when was the last time ISIS pulled off a hijacking, blowing up anything, or laying siege to our cities? Even if they pulled off one of those things in spectacular fashion... they'd just be tied with Timothy McVeigh on his own.
We're like maybe 5th on ISIS' to do list behind the Shi'a Muslims, Assad, Yazidi/Turks, and now Putin's dumbass.
You poor ignorant fool. Look up Christian terrorists (AKA like the one from Friday) and their attacks on Planned Parenthood.
Timothy McVeigh's terror campaign was in response to what happened to the Seventh Day Adventists/Branch Davidians.
Unlike Islam "religion of peace", Christianity actually is peaceful. It doesn't get more peaceful than Jesus. Islamic terrorists would be supported by Muhammed
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 07:31 PM
Did Jesus ever preach or do anything that could even be construed as violent?
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household."
-Jesus (Matthew 10: 34-36)
https://freedomshammer.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/gun-jesus.jpg
:milton
Unlike Islam "religion of peace", Christianity actually is peaceful. It doesn't get more peaceful than Jesus. Islamic terrorists would be supported by Muhammed
Jesus got locked up because he caused a violent ruckus at the temple...
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:39 PM
He caused a ruckus at a temple, wow. How many heads we're chopped off in the name of Allah while you made typed that comment? The amount of Muslim terrorists and violence dwarfs the Christian terrorism and violence, period.
fiddy
11-29-2015, 07:39 PM
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LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 07:43 PM
As far as i know there no word such jihad/holy war in the bible
Jesus flipped over a table at a temple though, same thing
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 07:55 PM
He caused a ruckus at a temple, wow. How many heads we're chopped off in the name of Allah while you made typed that comment? The amount of Muslim terrorists and violence dwarfs the Christian terrorism and violence, period.
Are we talking right now or Historically? :confusedshrug:
As far as i know there no word such jihad/holy war in the bible
Is the word 'Armageddon' ever explicitly used in the Bible? ':confusedshrug:
Jesus flipped over a table at a temple though, same thing
Wait For it... :crazysam:
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. 14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Revelations 19:11-16
He's cooking up some ass whoopings, just saving it for the rapture.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 07:56 PM
Did Jesus ever preach or do anything that could even be construed as violent?
Jesus never did, atleast according to what's written in the New Testament, as well as the Gospels that didn't make the final cut.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 07:59 PM
Are we talking right now or Historically? :confusedshrug:
Is the word 'Armageddon' ever explicitly used in the Bible? ':confusedshrug:
Wait For it... :crazysam:
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. 14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Revelations 19:11-16
He's cooking up some ass whoopings, just saving it for the rapture.
You realize that the Book of Revelations is nothing but bizarro symbolic metaphors of things that never actually happened, right? I think whoever wrote it was tripping on peyote.
Jesus himself is never recorded as preaching anything that can be interpreted as encouraging violence.
Unlike Mohammad, who personally ordered the death of hundreds and the extermination of an entire tribe. And who also lead a military campaign forcing people to convert to Islam or die.
KNOW1EDGE
11-29-2015, 07:59 PM
2/5
Weak era for trolls.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 08:03 PM
You realize that the Book of Revelations is nothing but bizarro symbolic metaphors of things that never actually happened, right? I think whoever wrote it was tripping on peyote.
Jesus himself is never recorded as preaching anything that can be interpreted as encouraging violence.
Unlike Mohammad, who personally ordered the death of hundreds and the extermination of an entire tribe. And who also lead a military campaign forcing people to convert to Islam or die.
Say whaaaaaaaat?
http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/79/3fb11d00-e03f-0131-6cd4-0aa0f90d87b4.jpg?w=684&h=513&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70
And this was only Revelations, right? :confusedshrug:
fiddy
11-29-2015, 08:04 PM
Is the word 'Armageddon' ever explicitly used in the Bible? ':confusedshrug:
:biggums:
How an Armageddon is equal to urging your followers to engage in a holy war against infidels?
LikeABosh
11-29-2015, 08:06 PM
Are we talking right now or Historically? :confusedshrug:
:rolleyes: what are you going to start talking about the Crusades now? Because yes, Muslims have always been much much more violent
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 08:18 PM
Say whaaaaaaaat?
http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/79/3fb11d00-e03f-0131-6cd4-0aa0f90d87b4.jpg?w=684&h=513&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70
And this was only Revelations, right? :confusedshrug:
Do you understand the difference?
Mohammad literally encourages his followers to commit violence in the name of Islam. Mohammad ordered the execution of an entire tribe. Mohammad lead military campaigns in the name of spreading Islam and executed people who wouldn't convert. Thousands of people died under Mohammad's direct orders, and he encouraged his future followers to do the same, in the name of spreading Islam.
Mohammad was a historic figure, and all of this is written in the Koran.
The Book of Revelations is fiction. Even if it talks about a violent end of days that will happen in the future, it doesn't encourage Christians to go out and murder non-believers, or commit acts of terrorism in the name of spreading Christianity..
If anything, it encourages them to follow the peaceful teachings of Jesus, so that Christians will get saved during the rapture and won't have to deal with the shit that follows during Armageddon.
Jesus himself was a cool pro-peace dude on par with Buddha and Plato. I don't think you've ever read the New Testament, or know what's written in it.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 08:42 PM
:rolleyes: what are you going to start talking about the Crusades now? Because yes, Muslims have always been much much more violent
Actually, I was going to start with the Inquisitions and then play it by ear from there.
:biggums:
How an Armageddon is equal to urging your followers to engage in a holy war against infidels?
Like this:
“The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars – their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
-Revelations 21:8
Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus will be sent by him to a Lake of Fire to burn forever when he comes back. That nigguh is not bringing flowers when he comes back on his White horse... He's bringing his SWORD.
Do you understand the difference?
Mohammad literally encourages his followers to commit violence in the name of Islam. Mohammad ordered the execution of an entire tribe. Mohammad lead military campaigns in the name of spreading Islam and executed people who wouldn't convert. Thousands of people died under Mohammad's direct orders, and he encouraged his future followers to do the same, in the name of spreading Islam.
Mohammad was a historic figure, and all of this is written in the Koran.
The Book of Revelations is fiction. Even if it talks about a violent end of days that will happen in the future, it doesn't encourage Christians to go out and murder non-believers, or commit acts of terrorism in the name of spreading Christianity..
If anything, it encourages them to follow the peaceful teachings of Jesus, so that Christians will get saved during the rapture and won't have to deal with the shit that follows during Armageddon.
Jesus himself was a cool pro-peace dude on par with Buddha and Plato. I don't think you've ever read the New Testament, or know what's written in it.
And the whole flying horse with a head of a woman thing in the Q'uran... Historical fact, yes? :durantunimpressed:
Didn't Moses kill non-believers/idolaters? Aren't you one of the Chosen people? Doesn't the OT give specific instructions about what to do with infidels? :confusedshrug:
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 08:51 PM
You realize that the Book of Revelations is nothing but bizarro symbolic metaphors of things that never actually happened, right? I think whoever wrote it was tripping on peyote.
I was in sunday school and bible school and stuff like that for parts of my sweet youth, and this is partly true. A lot of scholars believe that the scripts in the revelations are parables of future events.. And some believe that the whole book is only symbolic.
Jesus himself is never recorded as preaching anything that can be interpreted as encouraging violence.
True, Jesus was rock solid. He freed us from Jewish laws but the ten things he wanted us to keep was
1.You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make idols.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7.You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10.You shall not covet.
And if anyone breaks the 10 commandments, Jesus almighty will free you from you sins as was proven when a women was caught having an affair and an angry mob chased her. Jesus simply said ''Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.''
May Jesus bless you Jesus Christ!
Unlike Mohammad, who personally ordered the death of hundreds and the extermination of an entire tribe. And who also lead a military campaignn forcing people to convert to Islam or die.
Horrible, what a horrible, horrible man-;( Jesus was a saint compared to him.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 08:53 PM
Actually, I was going to start with the Inquisitions and then play it by ear from there.
Like this:
“The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars – their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
-Revelations 21:8
Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus will be sent by him to a Lake of Fire to burn forever when he comes back. That nigguh is not bringing flowers when he comes back on his White horse... He's bringing his SWORD.
And the whole flying horse with a head of a woman thing in the Q'uran... Historical fact, yes? :durantunimpressed:
Didn't Moses kill non-believers/idolaters? Aren't you one of the Chosen people? Doesn't the OT give specific instructions about what to do with infidels? :confusedshrug:
Mohammad riding his magical horse woman, the Buraq was a dream sequence in the Koran. You should read the Koran before you try to talk about what's in it.
Yeah. Moses did some ****ed up shit. If what happened in Exodus actually happened, IMO Moses was probably a schizophrenic in real life if he actually existed.
In the Old Testament though, it comes off as God's orders to kill the idolters. Moses argues against God's decision but ultimately loses.
Moses never preached for his future followers to cause terror and commit murder in the name of spreading Judaism.
ALSO, Moses was punished by God and wasn't allowed to set foot on Israeli soil. Jews don't look at Moses as Mr Perfect Saint Man. Judaism is all about NOT deifying these people and showing their flaws along with their strengths.
It is different from Islam, where Muslims literally see Mohammad as a perfect human who can do no wrong.
ALSO Mohammad is an actual human person who existed 1,500 years ago.
There is zero historical evidence that confirms Moses ever existed, or that the Exodus out of Egypt as it is written in the Torah ever actually happened.
TL;DR The Torah is a work of fiction for all intents and purposes.
Mohammad was a real man who actually existed, actually murdered people and actually created a religion that instructs his followers to murder people.
fiddy
11-29-2015, 08:55 PM
Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus will be sent by him to a Lake of Fire to burn forever when he comes back. That nigguh is not bringing flowers when he comes back on
HOW is this URGING the FOLLOWERS of christianity to WAGE WAR ON INFIDELS? Whats up with your reasoning abilities?
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 08:57 PM
Like this:
“The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars – their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
-Revelations 21:8
That line doesn't encourage Christians to murder non-believers. It just encourages Christians to follow the peaceful teachings of Jesus so they don't wind up like the nonbelievers when Armageddon comes.
Mohammad literally instructs his followers to go out and commit violence and terror in the name of spreading Islam multiple times in the Koran.
Also, keep in mind, Mohammad actually existed, and actually ordered murders and executions and lead military campaigns.
in other words, Mohammad was a real dude who actually killed people. The Book of Revelations is a fictional fever dream written by some dude tripping on blue lotus.
KNOW1EDGE
11-29-2015, 08:59 PM
1/5
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 08:59 PM
That line doesn't encourage Christians to murder non-believers. It just encourages Christians to follow the peaceful teachings of Jesus so they don't wind up like the nonbelievers when Armageddon comes.
Mohammad literally instructs his followers to go out and commit violence and terror in the name of spreading Islam multiple times in the Koran.
Also, keep in mind, Mohammad actually existed, and actually ordered murders and executions and lead military campaigns.
in other words, Mohammad was a real dude who actually killed people. The Book of Revelations is a fictional fever dream written by some dude tripping on blue lotus.
No one even knows who really wrote the book btw.
brownmamba00
11-29-2015, 09:00 PM
Oh look jews talking shit about Islam that's something new
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:00 PM
No one even knows who really wrote the book btw.
We do know that Mohammad was real, and that he actually ordered executions and lead violent military campaigns though.
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 09:03 PM
We do know that Mohammad was real, and that he actually ordered executions and lead violent military campaigns though.
That is fact, and according to my 1000 page dictionary fact means ''a thing that is known or proved to be true''. So there's that, we know Mohammed was violent, and Jesus (if this man even existed) was a peace loving, long haired, WHITE, beardy guy who loved all people of all religions and colors..
He was a liberal before it was even a word.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 09:09 PM
That line doesn't encourage Christians to murder non-believers.
All a matter of interpretation, like we're seeing with Islam today. And like we saw with the Inquisition for a good chunk of the last Millennium.
I'm sure Inquisitors used that and many other verses in the bible that they interpreted as God/Jesus commanding them to kill heretics and witches.
That is fact, and according to my 1000 page dictionary fact means ''a thing that is known or proved to be true''. So there's that, we know Mohammed was violent, and Jesus (if this man even existed) was a peace loving, long haired, WHITE, beardy guy who loved all people of all religions and colors..
He was a liberal before it was even a word.
He was also a socialist who made Bernie Sanders look like Andrew Carnegie.
imdaman99
11-29-2015, 09:11 PM
Don riling the same ole idiots up. Got em on a string like a yoyo http://www.gifmania.com/Gif-Animados-Objetos/Imagenes-Juguetes/Yo-Yos/Emoticono-Jugando-Yoyo-81254.gif
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:18 PM
All a matter of interpretation, like we're seeing with Islam today. And like we saw with the Inquisition for a good chunk of the last Millennium.
Not really. Mohammad literally encourages his followers to commit acts of terrorism and violence in the name of spreading Islam. These lines aren't open to interpretation. The Koran is meant to be interpreted literally. These are Mohammad's own instructions.
Mohammad actually existed and was a violent warmonger. ISIS today are doing the same exact shit Mohammad himself and his merry band of Muslims did in their conquest across the Arab Peninsula, including the beheadings and rapes.
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 09:20 PM
He was also a socialist who made Bernie Sanders look like Andrew Carnegie.
Yes, excellent point, Jesus was a fair man. In an ideal world socialism would be the preferred ideology. But in reality, with too many sinners socialism is abused.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:24 PM
That is fact, and according to my 1000 page dictionary fact means ''a thing that is known or proved to be true''. So there's that, we know Mohammed was violent, and Jesus (if this man even existed) was a peace loving, long haired, WHITE, beardy guy who loved all people of all religions and colors..
He was a liberal before it was even a word.
I don't believe the Bible ever describes Jesus' appearance or ethnicity. He didn't have a white beard, considering he died at the age of 33. He was born in Bethlehem, and the Arabs born in that region today consider themselves white, so yes, Jesus was likely white.
Jesus preached tolerance and acceptance of all races and religions, and he preached against slavery, just like Buddha.
Don't see why anyone would hate on Jesus message, if they actually read the things he said.
JEFFERSON MONEY
11-29-2015, 09:31 PM
Horrible, what a horrible, horrible man-;( Jesus was a saint compared to him.
What kind of people did they destroy? Oh, let's see BANN QURAYSH
people who promised the Muslims they'd have their backs in defending them but turned around and betrayed them in the heat of battle. This was written in contract.
Look into your heart and tell me that people who promised to protect you THEN BROKE both their word and endanger the lives of others are not deserving of a terrible punishment.
Similar modern examples? How about that coward Peter Pettigrew who got Sirius jailed all of a sudden despite the 4 of them together? If you don't have revolting seething hatred for actions like the stint the Quraysh did, then I truly question your manhood.
I don't expect Nick to disclose these details ; but you at least owe it to yourself to digest the entirety before passing judgment.
Memorization comes before comprehension which comes before analysis which comes before judgment.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Racist overtones being challenged and destroyed as all people are equal in the eyes of God and allowing a slave Bilal, to be called to prayer.
70 humans fed on a daily basis from a man who ate at most 2 meager meals a day and fasted.
Education and literacy soon to be promoted in a desert of library-less people.
Orphans clothed and given a home and countless lives comforted and given happiness as well as peace and a way of life to transition into the Hereafter.
Sickness and disease decreased with new standards of hygiene introduced by 5X ablutions.
Even more benevolent treatment towards horses, camels, and cats.
New ways of business that promoted trust.
Revitalization of the stories of Joseph, Jacob, Moses and many others wherein lies wisdom for men. But most do not understand.
The lie of idols as the target of answering one's prayers tarnished and diminished, and instead guided them to the One that has power over all things. You don't even have to be religious to appreciate this. Call Hashem, the Universe, Source, the Singularity, the infinite energetic intelligence or the Supercomputer Mind that Dictates the Universe; it's That Being rightfully reestablished as what prayers are directed to. Which is what Judaism also believed in, but somewhere corruption spread and ignorance became prevalent.
Property rights given to women and their status and respect amplified after his departure.
The beginning of a movement that would unite all of North Africa, most of the Middle East, SE Asia, and South Asia as one and for the next few hundred years after a RAPID advance in all facets of life from architecture, to learning, to living, to eating, to achieving peace under the constraints of God's will.
catch24
11-29-2015, 09:34 PM
I don't believe the Bible ever describes Jesus' appearance or ethnicity. He didn't have a white beard, considering he died at the age of 33. He was born in Bethlehem, and the Arabs born in that region today consider themselves white, so yes, Jesus was likely white.
Jesus preached tolerance and acceptance of all races and religions, and he preached against slavery, just like Buddha.
Don't see why anyone would hate on Jesus message, if they actually read the things he said.
His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters.
His eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.
The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire,
Jesus was either a brown middle-eastern dude, or black man.
He wasn't "white" though.
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 09:38 PM
Look into your heart and tell me that people who promised to protect you THEN BROKE both their word and endanger the lives of others are not deserving of a terrible punishment.
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Sir, I am a son of God. I am a loyal follower of his teaching. As a result of that, I love you, despite you not sharing the same faith as me. I love DonDadda, despite the fact that he does not share the same skin color as me. I love Nick Young, despite the fact that his ancestor killed Jesus. And if a man betrayed me I would forgive him. Cause Jesus told me to love and forgive!
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 09:39 PM
Not really.
Yes really.
Jesus himself in the bible makes it clear he's not on Earth to abolish the laws of Moses and the prophets who came before him, but to enforce and fulfill them:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
-Matthew 5:17
Therefore, even with his peace and love beatnik shit, stuff like this was still to be enforced:
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."
-Deuteronomy 13:13-19
"Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed".-Exodus 22:19
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
-2 Chronicles 15:12-13
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst."
-Deuteronomy 13:7-12
"One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die."
-Leviticus 24:10-16
"You should not let a sorceress live."
-Exodus 22:17 (Sorry, Salem :ohwell:)
No room for interpretation. Now you know why there was a 600+ year long inquisition.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say the Old Testament is far more violent than the Q'uran. :confusedshrug:
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:40 PM
The beginning of a movement that would unite all of North Africa, most of the Middle East, SE Asia, and South Asia as one and for the next few hundred years after a RAPID advance in all facets of life from architecture, to learning, to living, to eating, to achieving peace under the constraints of God's will.
Those place sure as phuck aren't united now.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:41 PM
His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters.
His eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.
The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire,
Jesus was either a brown middle-eastern dude, or black man.
He wasn't "white" though.
Or he was a white dude with a tan, like Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians and Palestinians are today.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 09:42 PM
His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters.
His eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.
The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire,
Jesus was either a brown middle-eastern dude, or black man.
He wasn't "white" though.
I had a random conversation with one of those Black Israelites, you know those dudes who look like cartoon wizards... anyway, he used that exact verse to prove to me that Jesus was Black (or at least Bronze skinned).
Can't argue with scripture. :confusedshrug:
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:42 PM
Sir, I am a son of God. I am a loyal follower of his teaching. As a result of that, I love you, despite you not sharing the same faith as me. I love DonDadda, despite the fact that he does not share the same skin color as me. I love Nick Young, despite the fact that his ancestor killed Jesus. And if a man betrayed me I would forgive him. Cause Jesus told me to love and forgive!
Jesus had it coming, breh.:rockon:
catch24
11-29-2015, 09:48 PM
Or he was a white dude with a tan, like Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians and Palestinians are today.
Burnished bronze? Sounds like a bad jersey shore tan.
I had a random conversation with one of those Black Israelites, you know those dudes who look like cartoon wizards... anyway, he used that exact verse to prove to me that Jesus was Black (or at least Bronze skinned).
Can't argue with scripture. :confusedshrug:
:oldlol:
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 09:55 PM
If Jesus was black, does that change the meaning of his words? It's likely that Jesus was Arabic/White, but if he was black, why is that a bad thing?
Don't be racist brehs. Jesus' message transcends race.
JEFFERSON MONEY
11-29-2015, 10:01 PM
Sir, I am a son of God. I am a loyal follower of his teaching. As a result of that, I love you, despite you not sharing the same faith as me. I love DonDadda, despite the fact that he does not share the same skin color as me. I love Nick Young, despite the fact that his ancestor killed Jesus. And if a man betrayed me I would forgive him. Cause Jesus told me to love and forgive!
You're a son of Adam.
And that's all good.
But with other people's lives at stake, and war at hand and something as treacherous as a breaching of honor which unites man together; I'm not so sure I could share those sentiments.
But then again I rooted for Colonel Quaritch. Rooted for General Zod.
Maybe my soul needs saving ;p
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:01 PM
If Jesus was black, does that change the meaning of his words? It's likely that Jesus was Arabic/White, but if he was black, why is that a bad thing?
Don't be racist brehs. Jesus' message transcends race.
If Jesus comes back looking like this:
https://mattsbibleblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/di-ntzh.jpg
I GUARANTEE you that all of Middle America and the bible belt thumpers will set land speed records trying to convert to Scientology.
It'll be like that Simpsons episode when all the Stone Cutters quit and started the No Homers club. The No Jesus club will be the biggest religion in America within 3 days.
TripleA
11-29-2015, 10:06 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/0d/d2/7f0dd2b1937b4bda3cfccdc7697ab118.jpg
:lebronamazed:
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 10:06 PM
If Jesus comes back looking like this:
https://mattsbibleblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/di-ntzh.jpg
I GUARANTEE you that all of Middle America and the bible belt thumpers will set land speed records trying to convert to Scientology.
It'll be like that Simpsons episode when all the Stone Cutters quit and started the No Homers club. The No Jesus club will be the biggest religion in America within 3 days.
OR they will denounce their racism and start being cool with black people.
OR they will like Jesus but still hate black people, just like how LSU fans love Leonard Fournette but still are racists.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 10:08 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/0d/d2/7f0dd2b1937b4bda3cfccdc7697ab118.jpg Burnished bronze
:lebronamazed:
Tell me this is white.
This is the modern interpretation of burnished bronze.
This is a more accurate interpretation of burnished bronze, based on the original Aramaic translation.
http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dj_pauly_d_spin_off_show.jpg
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:10 PM
Muzzies acting like anyone cares.... take a fat L
Giaodollo
11-29-2015, 10:12 PM
You're a son of Adam.
And that's all good.
But with other people's lives at stake, and war at hand and something as treacherous as a breaching of honor which unites man together; I'm not so sure I could share those sentiments.
But then again I rooted for Colonel Quaritch. Rooted for General Zod.
Maybe my soul needs saving ;p
We can all grow as people, as humans. That is why God gave us the ability to live for over 100 years old if you treat your body right. I am not saying that I am better than you because I would turn the other cheek and refrain from violence after being betrayed. I too have flaws, I too sin, just like every other man and woman on this Godly planet. But we also have a chance to redeem our self from our sins. We all have a opportunity to ask God for his hand and if you truly are sorry than God shall set you free from your sins.
God bless you Jefersson Moeney
Kind Regards
Humble servant of Jesus Christ
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:15 PM
We can all grow as people, as humans. That is why God gave us the ability to live for over 100 years old if you treat your body right. I am not saying that I am better than you because I would turn the other cheek and refrain from violence after being betrayed. I too have flaws, I too sin, just like every other man and woman on this Godly planet. But we also have a chance to redeem our self from our sins. We all have a opportunity to ask God for his hand and if you truly are sorry than God shall set you free from your sins.
God bless you Jefersson Moeney
Kind Regards
Humble servant of Jesus Christ
:roll:
L8kersfan222
11-29-2015, 10:15 PM
DonDadda is brainwashed its so sad.
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:16 PM
DonDadda is brainwashed its so sad.
Most religious people are... it's not just islam. Unfortunately islam is violence, so their brainwash = deaths and murder.
I'd give it a few more months before he heads out to to the ME :)
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:17 PM
OR they will denounce their racism and start being cool with black people.
OR they will like Jesus but still hate black people, just like how LSU fans love Leonard Fournette but still are racists.
The Kobe/LeBron formula- Worship one Black man, hate all others. White man beats the system again.
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:20 PM
The Kobe/LeBron formula- Worship one Black man, hate all others. White man beats the system again.
Hate to tel you this, but we are the system. We've designed it so that you will never prosper. Welcome to the world.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:25 PM
Hate to tel you this, but we are the system. We've designed it so that you will never prosper. Welcome to the world.
Go make me some waffles, bitch.
And thank you for the warm welcome. :cheers:
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:26 PM
Go make me some waffles, bitch.
And thank you for the warm welcome. :cheers:
Make Waffles? Please, that's a job for someone of your colour.
warriorfan
11-29-2015, 10:26 PM
Hate to tel you this, but we are the system. We've designed it so that you will never prosper. Welcome to the world.
^ dude is mad as hell
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:30 PM
Make Waffles? Please, that's a job for someone of your colour.
Nigguhs don't know shit about making waffles. :whatever:
But you're over there in Belgium... So wassup?
BigNBAfan
11-29-2015, 10:31 PM
Nigguhs don't know shit about making waffles. :whatever:
But you're over there in Belgium... So wassup?
It's very elementary. we've trained monkeys to perfect it so we only ask you to do it at a mediocre level.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:33 PM
It's very elementary. we've trained monkeys to perfect it so we only ask you to do it at a mediocre level.
:milton
On second thought, I'll just go to I-HOP.
Nick Young
11-29-2015, 10:48 PM
Make Waffles? Please, that's a job for someone of your colour.
French, Belgians and Dutch are the best waffle makers, but black people are nearly as good, especially when they serve fried chicken next to the waffles:bowdown:
Waffles cross all races and creeds.
#OneWorld
#OneWaffle
NumberSix
11-29-2015, 10:51 PM
French, Belgians and Dutch are the best waffle makers, but black people are nearly as good, especially when they serve fried chicken next to the waffles:bowdown:
Waffles cross all races and creeds.
#OneWorld
#OneWaffle
Fried chicken and waffles = cultural appropriation.
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 10:55 PM
French, Belgians and Dutch are the best waffle makers, but black people are nearly as good, especially when they serve fried chicken next to the waffles:bowdown:
Waffles cross all races and creeds.
#OneWorld
#OneWaffle
I had a chance to go to Roscoe's when I was in Hollywood but I decided against it last minute because I feared I might be late for my flight home. It's a mistake I'll have to live with for the rest of my life. :facepalm
No muslim needs to speak out, they have spoken out with action & victims enough, ISIS have killed more actual muslims than anything else, by far, and nobody cares, there never was & never will be any "minute of silence" for them, any sane rational intellect can activate enough braincells to conclude no abrahamic religion condones that shit anyways especially something as randomly killing random people in random places.
ISIS (and other psychos, criminals etc.) are only muslims in their own minds... and in the minds of guys like 9erempire or something
DonDadda59
11-29-2015, 11:23 PM
No muslim needs to speak out, they have spoken out with action & victims enough, ISIS have killed more actual muslims than anything else, by far, and nobody cares, there never was & never will be any "minute of silence" for them, any sane rational intellect can activate enough braincells to conclude no abrahamic religion condones that shit anyways especially something as randomly killing random people in random places.
ISIS (and other psychos, criminals etc.) are only muslims in their own minds... and in the minds of guys like 9erempire or something
That's not true. They are Muslims, they just have a more extreme literal interpretation of Islamic scripture. Many of the abhorrent things they do can be justified by scripture, just like it was with the Christian Inquisitions.
JEFFERSON MONEY
11-30-2015, 12:44 AM
LMFAO did bignbafan actually for a sec think DD59 was a moslem?
.... ladies and gentlemen your Vestibular PHD student right thurr!
he thought baghdadi was Allah
he's so smart he can see no difference between hindus and muslims!
so bright he has deduced dd59 as a guy who has yet to make the shahadah as a muslim! the foresight on this one!
so funny he's talking about training "monkeys" to make waffle
Damn I thought Samuels was embarassing but this guy actually has a legit position in a Belgian hospital. Damn this crackanikka in danger of losing his job real quik.
f*king shit shoveling 3rd world orphans out there with ten times the potential as you bignbafan. be scared. be very very scurred.
yikes we know the that a weak little cornball witout any sexual prowess but an idiot colored monkey and my monkey bros like me'self might just go caesar + koba on his ass.
bdreason
11-30-2015, 02:32 AM
I don't understand how anyone could live their lives based on a book written by intellectually inferior human beings thousands of years ago. Y'all realize these people thought the world was flat, and created stories about mythical gods to explain basic scientific facts... and people in the modern era live their lives based on what these people wrote in a book? :facepalm
Dresta
11-30-2015, 06:35 AM
DonDadda being a bigot again, and running his mouth about a book he's never read, and a couple of religions he doesn't understand anything about. Do you know anything about Europe before Christianity? Or the history of each of the peoples of Europe before they adopted Christianity? Those lovely soft and cuddly Scandinavians were Viking warriors, bred on the Norse myths, who thought warfare inseparable from virtue. The same could be said of the Romans, the Greeks, all the European tribes (the Native American tribes too), who all, yes all, saw greatness to be inseparable from high military conduct (hence the latin word for good, "bonus" is itself derived from the word meaning "warrior" - basically, this is as we are by nature).
It is only with Christianity that this ended, and it is only when the values of Christianity were made instinct in man, over a period of centuries, that Europe started to become civilised, and started to limit the extent of its warring. It is from here that the concepts of the brotherhood of man came to rule, as well as the belief in the inherent dignity of every human life - this worked to eliminate slavery, and now, has led to this insane internationalism that hopes to dissolve national borders and live 'as one' - Democracy, the EU, American foreign policy and its insane belief in planting Democracy in places clearly not suited to it - these are all derived from Christianity, and it is beyond obvious to anyone who has properly studied history. Before this, man's ambition was insatiable, it dominated, leading to the vast conquests and constant warring of the ancient world. The inordinate ambition of man was restrained, and over hundreds of years, the instincts of a people who lived by warfare were weakened by the preachments of universal love, the dignity of man, and the general softness of Christianity.
Islam still has something of this warrior nature imbued within it, which is probably why it doesn't produce so many pussified little masochists who repudiate their own culture and heritage, because they are somehow ashamed of it. ISHs is full of this sort of person, and they are a product of the Christian world. This is the reason i dislike Christianity: because it produces the most pathetic of human specimens, legions of feminised and castrated men like DonDadda, Deuces, Droid, PhantomCreep etc. etc. And these people don't even know the supreme influence of Christianity, and Christian value-judgements, in making them what they are. These are repugnant and hybridised living contradictions - they're infected with the arrogance and complacency of modernity, yet filled with the zealous compassion of the Christian, but compassion in the abstract (as modernity has replaced real things with the abstract).
Example here (though obviously Donny boy has provided a superlative one all throughout this thread):
I don't understand how anyone could live their lives based on a book written by intellectually inferior human beings thousands of years ago. Y'all realize these people thought the world was flat, and created stories about mythical gods to explain basic scientific facts... and people in the modern era live their lives based on what these people wrote in a book? :facepalm
How does this ignoramus know anything about the intelligence of the men who wrote the Bible? From where does he get such presumption so as to declare himself 'intellectually superior' because he's learnt some 'scientific facts' - the Bible is not about 'scientific facts,' nor is it a political program of any sort, but a personal guide, and a way of ordering your life and the external world (or your interpretation of it, which cannot be done without a leap of faith - unless, like Camus, you think it worthwhile to roll a boulder up a hill for ever, mimicking Sisyphus, and knowing your effort to be futile and absurd - but this provides no basis for morality, only for noble resignation). But once again it is the attempt to use myth and imagery to express truth.
I swear, you people keep talking about the Bible, but i would be dumbfounded if you'd actually read even half of it. The Bible is filled with nuggets of wisdom that tell you something about human nature, and the difficulties and contradictions of being a human being - often through the means of figurative myths or parables - so stop being such a literalist clown. It's very clear that myths of all kinds (so not just Christian) can tell you something interesting about human nature, and can convey a truth that simply cannot be expressed or understood through common scientific parlance (see myths of Hesoid, for example) - these are truths that strike and resonate with the human heart when meditated upon, and that is the reason they have survived for thousands of years. Science can never pronounce on such things, and has always been incapable of doing so in its blind and indiscriminate drive towards truth (a Christian drive, mind you! Truth isdivine; there is a reason that all the modern institutions of learning are derived from those established by fathers of the Church).
Science has the problem of not being able to make value-judgements, so the idea of living your life according to the dictates of science, is quite frankly, insane: it makes no sense whatsoever. Only a completely credulous and unthinking blowfish could adopt such a position and not recognise its innate contradictions.
DonDadda59
11-30-2015, 12:53 PM
I always got that deja vu feeling skimming through Dresta's essay (let's be real, nobody's reading all that rambling Pauk style mess :lol )... And I finally figured out why.
Dresta = A poor man's Starface, if the face man had been born in 1826.
brownmamba00
11-30-2015, 01:02 PM
DonDadda being a bigot again, and running his mouth about a book he's never read, and a couple of religions he doesn't understand anything about. Do you know anything about Europe before Christianity? Or the history of each of the peoples of Europe before they adopted Christianity? Those lovely soft and cuddly Scandinavians were Viking warriors, bred on the Norse myths, who thought warfare inseparable from virtue. The same could be said of the Romans, the Greeks, all the European tribes (the Native American tribes too), who all, yes all, saw greatness to be inseparable from high military conduct (hence the latin word for good, "bonus" is itself derived from the word meaning "warrior" - basically, this is as we are by nature).
It is only with Christianity that this ended, and it is only when the values of Christianity were made instinct in man, over a period of centuries, that Europe started to become civilised, and started to limit the extent of its warring. It is from here that the concepts of the brotherhood of man came to rule, as well as the belief in the inherent dignity of every human life - this worked to eliminate slavery, and now, has led to this insane internationalism that hopes to dissolve national borders and live 'as one' - Democracy, the EU, American foreign policy and its insane belief in planting Democracy in places clearly not suited to it - these are all derived from Christianity, and it is beyond obvious to anyone who has properly studied history. Before this, man's ambition was insatiable, it dominated, leading to the vast conquests and constant warring of the ancient world. The inordinate ambition of man was restrained, and over hundreds of years, the instincts of a people who lived by warfare were weakened by the preachments of universal love, the dignity of man, and the general softness of Christianity.
Islam still has something of this warrior nature imbued within it, which is probably why it doesn't produce so many pussified little masochists who repudiate their own culture and heritage, because they are somehow ashamed of it. ISHs is full of this sort of person, and they are a product of the Christian world. This is the reason i dislike Christianity: because it produces the most pathetic of human specimens, legions of feminised and castrated men like DonDadda, Deuces, Droid, PhantomCreep etc. etc. And these people don't even know the supreme influence of Christianity, and Christian value-judgements, in making them what they are. These are repugnant and hybridised living contradictions - they're infected with the arrogance and complacency of modernity, yet filled with the zealous compassion of the Christian, but compassion in the abstract (as modernity has replaced real things with the abstract).
Example here (though obviously Donny boy has provided a superlative one all throughout this thread):
How does this ignoramus know anything about the intelligence of the men who wrote the Bible? From where does he get such presumption so as to declare himself 'intellectually superior' because he's learnt some 'scientific facts' - the Bible is not about 'scientific facts,' nor is it a political program of any sort, but a personal guide, and a way of ordering your life and the external world (or your interpretation of it, which cannot be done without a leap of faith - unless, like Camus, you think it worthwhile to roll a boulder up a hill for ever, mimicking Sisyphus, and knowing your effort to be futile and absurd - but this provides no basis for morality, only for noble resignation). But once again it is the attempt to use myth and imagery to express truth.
I swear, you people keep talking about the Bible, but i would be dumbfounded if you'd actually read even half of it. The Bible is filled with nuggets of wisdom that tell you something about human nature, and the difficulties and contradictions of being a human being - often through the means of figurative myths or parables - so stop being such a literalist clown. It's very clear that myths of all kinds (so not just Christian) can tell you something interesting about human nature, and can convey a truth that simply cannot be expressed or understood through common scientific parlance (see myths of Hesoid, for example) - these are truths that strike and resonate with the human heart when meditated upon, and that is the reason they have survived for thousands of years. Science can never pronounce on such things, and has always been incapable of doing so in its blind and indiscriminate drive towards truth (a Christian drive, mind you! Truth isdivine; there is a reason that all the modern institutions of learning are derived from those established by fathers of the Church).
Science has the problem of not being able to make value-judgements, so the idea of living your life according to the dictates of science, is quite frankly, insane: it makes no sense whatsoever. Only a completely credulous and unthinking blowfish could adopt such a position and not recognise its innate contradictions.
Yeah Muslims burned all those women at the stake because they were 'witches'...the spanish inquisition? Guess who saved those Jews or how about the church hustlin the poor in Europe by selling pieces of paper to guarantee their place in heaven.
The general softness and kindness of Christianity hmmm I should convert:oldlol:
Get the **** outta here
KNOW1EDGE
11-30-2015, 01:07 PM
Wtf you mean "FINALLY"???
Muslims have been speaking out against ISIS for as long as they have been in existence
ISH is worthless
DonDadda59
11-30-2015, 01:08 PM
Wtf you mean "FINALLY"???
Muslims have been speaking out against ISIS for as long as they have been in existence
ISH is worthless
1/5
Weak era for pu$$ies.
KNOW1EDGE
11-30-2015, 01:13 PM
1/5
Weak era for pu$$ies.
Solid post.
NumberSix
11-30-2015, 01:41 PM
Yeah Muslims burned all those women at the stake because they were 'witches'...the spanish inquisition? Guess who saved those Jews or how about the church hustlin the poor in Europe by selling pieces of paper to guarantee their place in heaven.
The general softness and kindness of Christianity hmmm I should convert:oldlol:
Get the **** outta here
Check how many people THIS YEAR were sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia for witchcraft and sorcery.
Hint... It's not zero.
Bosnian Sajo
11-30-2015, 02:06 PM
DonDadda is brainwashed its so sad.
They got nothing to say, Don! That post about the violent versus in the Bible was ****ing EPIC bro, completely backfired on the whole "Quran is violent" argument, great stuff. And Don ain even Muslim!
:applause:
Great stuff.
Bosnian Sajo
11-30-2015, 02:15 PM
DonDadda being a bigot again, and running his mouth about a book he's never read, and a couple of religions he doesn't understand anything about.
Because you have such a broad and correct understanding of religion :rolleyes:
I swear, you people keep talking about the Bible, but i would be dumbfounded if you'd actually read even half of it. The Bible is filled with nuggets of wisdom that tell you something about human nature, and the difficulties and contradictions of being a human being - often through the means of figurative myths or parables - so stop being such a literalist clown.
Stop acting like you read the Quran, you read 4-5 versus and think you know what the entire book is about. People spend lifetime studying the book and still will not be able to fully grasp it's content because it is the word of god, NOT Mohammed. Hadiths are from Muhammed, Quran is straight from Allah passed down to the angel Gabriel who recited it to Muhammed. And btw, the Quran has the quoted material and more, that's how ik you've never read it because you wouldn't use this as an argument for the bible if you don't use it for the Quran as well...
Soooo many smartasses on ISH. Geniuses...wtf are you guys wasting your time on ISH for when you so smart? Go write a book Destra, everyone will pick up a copy and read it. Afterall, you understand all the religions better than any of us. :applause:
Dresta
11-30-2015, 02:55 PM
I always got that deja vu feeling skimming through Dresta's essay (let's be real, nobody's reading all that rambling Pauk style mess :lol )... And I finally figured out why.
Dresta = A poor man's Starface, if the face man had been born in 1826.
DonDadda = A clown who badmouths and mocks religion incessantly, for its supposed dogmatism, only to ignore any argument made about the value of religion, and simply dismiss it as an 'essay.' And you have the cheek to dare call anyone else dogmatic, to laugh at anyone else's faith - you are an uneducated cretin of the lowest order. You live off of faith and you don't even know it: that is how ignorant you are, and how blind you are to what has made Western civilisation a place the rest of the world wants to migrate to.
fyi, plenty of people would have read it, and plenty of people would have agreed with it. Whereas look at you: you're simple comic relief, like a court jester. No substance whatsoever; no arguments, no ability to debate, just some vulgar and childish mockery from someone who doesn't know enough to do anything else but that. A grown man who comes on the internet to behave like a child. How utterly pathetic.
Yeah Muslims burned all those women at the stake because they were 'witches'...the spanish inquisition? Guess who saved those Jews or how about the church hustlin the poor in Europe by selling pieces of paper to guarantee their place in heaven.
The general softness and kindness of Christianity hmmm I should convert:oldlol:
Get the **** outta here
Why do people always bring up the Inquisition? What the actual **** does the Inquisition have to do with anything? You are completely ignoring how violent the world was at that time - you are viewing the past through the lens of the present, and i notice, that this is the most common reason why people fail to understand the value of religion. Without the social binding force of religion we could not be anything other than tribes, constantly warring with one another. Theology is the first branch of learning, followed by ethics, then by politics, and then by economics. They each derive from their antecedent, and any analysis of the history of the study of human affairs would tell you just that.
Just visited a cool Church in Berlin today, where they had statues that were the personification of hope, devotion, faith, love, charity etc. These are most certainly rather feminine values. It did soften what had been up to the time of Christianity, the most barbarous and war-like of people. To ignore this is to ignore history - but that is normal in this day and age.
Even go back to the Assyrians, the Babylonians, i.e. the pre-Hellenic world - it was their religion and superstition, essentially the worship of the cult, that produced all the ancient artifacts that have been discovered in these places. Without religion there cannot be culture.
Because you have such a broad and correct understanding of religion :rolleyes:
Stop acting like you read the Quran, you read 4-5 versus and think you know what the entire book is about. People spend lifetime studying the book and still will not be able to fully grasp it's content because it is the word of god, NOT Mohammed. Hadiths are from Muhammed, Quran is straight from Allah passed down to the angel Gabriel who recited it to Muhammed. And btw, the Quran has the quoted material and more, that's how ik you've never read it because you wouldn't use this as an argument for the bible if you don't use it for the Quran as well...
Soooo many smartasses on ISH. Geniuses...wtf are you guys wasting your time on ISH for when you so smart? Go write a book Destra, everyone will pick up a copy and read it. Afterall, you understand all the religions better than any of us. :applause:Why are you defending a person who only mocks and denigrates your religion?
I have no time whatsoever for the thoughtless bashing of religion; but then i would also have to be blind to not recognise the threat emanating from Saudi Arabia and its brand of Sunni Islam. And yes, the people who mandate such codes in these repressive countries have spent 'their lifetimes studying the book' too - so that argument really comes to null.
Islam has clearly been of significant value to many people in various ways. What i don't like about Islam is its tendency, especially recently, to be excessively violent, and to carry with it a political creed which is to be implemented. Not very complicated, is it? You evidently don't understand my position regarding Islam at all.
Regardless, the secularism people like DonDadda worship, emerged from Christianity, and was the consequence of Christian theology, particularly post-reformation. It has nothing to do with Islam.
DonDadda59
11-30-2015, 04:46 PM
DonDadda = A clown who badmouths and mocks religion incessantly, for its supposed dogmatism, only to ignore any argument made about the value of religion, and simply dismiss it as an 'essay.' And you have the cheek to dare call anyone else dogmatic, to laugh at anyone else's faith - you are an uneducated cretin of the lowest order. You live off of faith and you don't even know it: that is how ignorant you are, and how blind you are to what has made Western civilisation a place the rest of the world wants to migrate to.
fyi, plenty of people would have read it, and plenty of people would have agreed with it. Whereas look at you: you're simple comic relief, like a court jester. No substance whatsoever; no arguments, no ability to debate, just some vulgar and childish mockery from someone who doesn't know enough to do anything else but that. A grown man who comes on the internet to behave like a child. How utterly pathetic.
I find it utterly hilarious how angry you get over stuff like this. :lol
You're an intellectual fraud who spams thesaurus.com and name-drops authors whose works you most likely never read and wouldn't have understood even if you had. You're a dime a dozen. Like I said earlier, a poor man's past prime Starface with none of the humor. A stale, boring, out of touch, clinically depressed poseur with no real personality.
How mad does that make you? How many paragraphs should I expect?
Solid post.
I hoped you'd like it. :D
Dresta
11-30-2015, 06:41 PM
More ad hominems and again no argument from you. Evidently you haven't read anything, which is why you're incapable of producing anything but an insult.
Honestly, your jealousy and insecurity is palpable, and it's depressing how much you over-compensate as a result of your ignorance. Who is really mad here? Is it the loser who mocks religion and pretends not to care about it, but who still makes thread after thread trying to get a rise out of the religious? Or is it the person who simply points out how full of shit that person is? Why does the fact that people believe in something irk you so? It surely has more to do with you than it does with them.
Let's be real here. For one second in your life, be honest to yourself.
fyi: i've never been on 'thesaurus.com' in my life, and the fact that you think the most simple english would require it, really shows how poorly educated you are. You can't even speak your native tongue: again, what a pathetically embarrassing human specimen you are.
DonDadda59
11-30-2015, 06:43 PM
More ad hominems and again no argument from you. Evidently you haven't read anything, which is why you're incapable of producing anything but an insult.
Honestly, your jealousy and insecurity is palpable, and it's depressing how much you over-compensate as a result of your ignorance. Who is really mad here? Is it the loser who mocks religion and pretends not to care about it, but who still makes thread after thread trying to get a rise out of the religious? Or is it the person who simply points out how full of shit that person is? Why does the fact that people believe in something irk you so? It surely has more to do with you than it does with them.
Let's be real here. For one second in your life, be honest to yourself.
fyi: i've never been on 'thesaurus.com' in my life, and the fact that you think the most simple english would require it, really shows how poorly educated you are. You can't even speak your native tongue: again, what a pathetically embarrassing human specimen you are.
:(
What do they have you on, zoloft... prozac? Tell me you're not self-medicating again.
eliteballer
11-30-2015, 11:31 PM
Finally?
Who do you think is fighting ISIS on the ground in Syria, Iraq, and Libya?
It isn't a bunch of rednecks with shotguns.
Dresta
12-01-2015, 06:58 AM
:(
What do they have you on, zoloft... prozac? Tell me you're not self-medicating again.
Focusing in on a single word, and taking it entirely out of context: that sounds like your copy and pasted attempts to devalue the Bible to me. This must just be the way your mind works - "one word at a time please! I can't handle much else."
And i'd never take anti-depressants, thanks, but you should definitely be on them: i can only think an extremely sick and desolate soul could spend so much time trolling the religious on the internet. Something is very wrong in that head of yours: 80-90% of your posts are about a subject you find absurd and idiotic (and yet you won't shut up about it). What's the point in that unless you're simply baiting people, and getting your kicks from doing so? So yeah, get on those anti-depressants, and maybe you'll stop trying to spread your misery to others. Enough of your resentful and envy-driven babble. Just because you live a hollow, superficial, valueless and pointless life, doesn't mean everyone has to - and that is your aim here, right? To make people feel their lives and existences are as devoid of meaning as yours. Amirite?
NumberSix
12-01-2015, 07:04 AM
Black
BasedTom
12-01-2015, 08:07 AM
Lives
Giaodollo
12-01-2015, 09:12 AM
ITT: Dresta with the kill on DonDadda57
DonDadda59
12-01-2015, 12:00 PM
Focusing in on a single word, and taking it entirely out of context: that sounds like your copy and pasted attempts to devalue the Bible to me. This must just be the way your mind works - "one word at a time please! I can't handle much else."
And i'd never take anti-depressants, thanks, but you should definitely be on them: i can only think an extremely sick and desolate soul could spend so much time trolling the religious on the internet. Something is very wrong in that head of yours: 80-90% of your posts are about a subject you find absurd and idiotic (and yet you won't shut up about it). What's the point in that unless you're simply baiting people, and getting your kicks from doing so? So yeah, get on those anti-depressants, and maybe you'll stop trying to spread your misery to others. Enough of your resentful and envy-driven babble. Just because you live a hollow, superficial, valueless and pointless life, doesn't mean everyone has to - and that is your aim here, right? To make people feel their lives and existences are as devoid of meaning as yours. Amirite?
You should at least consider them. Self medication is never the answer, it only compounds the problem.
ITT: Dresta with the kill on DonDadda57
This. :applause:
I have a Google University summa *** laude PHD graduate following me around on the internet (90% of them troll threads, mind you), writing angry polemics about me.
Times were, kids used to call that 'melting down'. But you and I know that's just #Winning.
Trollsmasher
12-01-2015, 12:07 PM
dondumbdu getting bodied:roll: :roll: :applause:
DonDadda59
12-01-2015, 12:13 PM
dondumbdu getting bodied:roll: :roll: :applause:
In Christ-like fashion, I simply turn the other cheek when attacked.
Love is the answer.
And prozac.
Dresta
12-01-2015, 01:53 PM
You should at least consider them. Self medication is never the answer, it only compounds the problem.
This. :applause:
I have a Google University summa *** laude PHD graduate following me around on the internet (90% of them troll threads, mind you), writing angry polemics about me.
Times were, kids used to call that 'melting down'. But you and I know that's just #Winning.
Five words comprehended: that must be some kind of new record for you - congrats on making some progress :applause:.
Not that your response made any sense though. My 'considering' them would be self-medication, unless you've somehow managed to become my doctor. Even your jokes don't make any sense :oldlol:. And now you've just admitted you spend your days trolling religious people on the internet: how sad. I'm not angry, i'm just putting you in your rightful place, which is in the gutter. I don't have any kind words for people who can't be anything but frivolous and flippant; so don't expect them, and you won't get so upset about it.
Also, tis funny how you think this is about you (of course), when the only reason i respond to your posts is because they are representative of a type that has become prevalent (even dominant) in recent years, and this type tends to make the same fallacious and ahistorical arguments that you peddle on here. You have this strange combination of arrogance and complacency and ignorance that is so common as to be an endemic symptom of modernity. You're one of those typical conformists who get their kicks posing as some kind of subversive: University campuses are littered with idiots of this sort. That is what i'm replying to: not you as an individual, for who could give the slightest **** about an internet wise-ass called DonDiddly?
I wouldn't expect you to care about me either, but seriously, you should rethink your entire worldview, because it's stupid as shit; almost every remotely intelligent young person goes through such a phase, and i did so myself between the ages of 14-22 or so, but luckily for me, i grew up. You still think like a child, and so does most of the adult Western world, which to me, is worrying to say the least. You could probably find some posts of mine on here from 2010 or so bashing religion in a similar way, but, ya know, growing up and stuff: it happens. If you're never willing to change your mind then you'll always be a fool.
DonDadda59
12-01-2015, 02:00 PM
Five words comprehended: that must be some kind of new record for you - congrats on making some progress :applause:.
Not that your response made any sense though. My 'considering' them would be self-medication, unless you've somehow managed to become my doctor. Even your jokes don't make any sense :oldlol:. And now you've just admitted you spend your days trolling religious people on the internet: how sad. I'm not angry, i'm just putting you in your rightful place, which is in the gutter. I don't have any kind words for people who can't be anything but frivolous and flippant; so don't expect them, and you won't get so upset about it.
Also, tis funny how you think this is about you (of course), when the only reason i respond to your posts is because they are representative of a type that has become prevalent (even dominant) in recent years, and this type tends to make the same fallacious and ahistorical arguments that you peddle on here. You have this strange combination of arrogance and complacency and ignorance that is so common as to be an endemic symptom of modernity. You're one of those typical conformists who get their kicks posing as some kind of subversive: University campuses are littered with idiots of this sort. That is what i'm replying to: not you as an individual, for who could give the slightest **** about an internet wise-ass called DonDiddly?
I wouldn't expect you to care about me either, but seriously, you should rethink your entire worldview, because it's stupid as shit; almost every remotely intelligent young person goes through such a phase, and i did so myself between the ages of 14-22 or so, but luckily for me, i grew up. You still think like a child, and so does most of the adult Western world, which to me, is worrying to say the least. You could probably find some posts of mine on here from 2010 or so bashing religion in a similar way, but, ya know, growing up and stuff: it happens. If you're never willing to change your mind then you'll always be a fool.
You got me all wrong. I do care. To the point it hurts.
Write more essays about me, and we can begin to heal together. :cheers:
Bosnian Sajo
12-01-2015, 02:03 PM
Go write a book Destra, everyone will pick up a copy and read it. Afterall, you understand all the religions better than any of us. :applause:
At least he took my advice seriously :cheers:
senelcoolidge
12-01-2015, 03:22 PM
OT:
This morning at work I had a patient that I'm not really sure where he was from. Not sure if he was Arab or Turkish or something along those lines. He had a muslim name. Do they hate black people? Reason I ask is because while I was prepping him for his test there was a black guy there doing something, not sure what. But the look that the patient and his wife gave him was one of "hate" if I could describe it. I felt uncomfortable at that moment. So I'm wondering if people in those regions are racist or just don't like people with dark skin.
Nick Young
12-01-2015, 03:27 PM
OT:
This morning at work I had a patient that I'm not really sure where he was from. Not sure if he was Arab or Turkish or something along those lines. He had a muslim name. Do they hate black people? Reason I ask is because while I was prepping him for his test there was a black guy there doing something, not sure what. But the look that the patient and his wife gave him was one of "hate" if I could describe it. I felt uncomfortable at that moment. So I'm wondering if people in those regions are racist or just don't like people with dark skin.
Arabs and Turks are among the most racist people on the entire planet easily.
If you think white Americans are racist, you haven't seen anything in comparison to Arabs and Turks.
From what I gather, these are the groups that Arabs and Turks hate the most, in order. If someone more familiar with Turk and Arab racism want to chip in and amend the list, let me know!
1. Jews-no explanation needed
2. Palestinians-Yep, many Arabs and Turks believe that their Muslim Brothers in Palestine are "lower than dogs" and "only a small step above Jews". I have heard those expressions used hundreds of times in my life from Arabs speaking about Palestinians, which is why I'm providing them in quotes.
3. Black people-They hate black people, even black muslims.
4. Kurds-Turks and Arabs hate these guys
5. Persians-I don't know why but Arabs and Turks hate Iranians as much as they hate Americans
6. Americans-they just hate us, despite aspiring to dress like us, watch our media, eat our food and play our videogames.
7. Other Arabs and Turkish people-If you are from an Arab country, it is likely that you hate your neighbors from other Arab countries, they all seem to have beef with eachother. I assumed Turks would like Azerbaijanis and Turkmen, but based on what Turks I've met have said about these groups when I ask, they hate these two groups. And not in a friendly "USA vs Canada jokey rivalry" type way.
Dresta
12-01-2015, 03:27 PM
OT:
This morning at work I had a patient that I'm not really sure where he was from. Not sure if he was Arab or Turkish or something along those lines. He had a muslim name. Do they hate black people? Reason I ask is because while I was prepping him for his test there was a black guy there doing something, not sure what. But the look that the patient and his wife gave him was one of "hate" if I could describe it. I felt uncomfortable at that moment. So I'm wondering if people in those regions are racist or just don't like people with dark skin.
Dark skin is considered low-status by some, i believe. I had a Pakistani friend at uni who used to switch whenever i called him blick.
JEFFERSON MONEY
12-01-2015, 03:31 PM
OT:
This morning at work I had a patient that I'm not really sure where he was from. Not sure if he was Arab or Turkish or something along those lines. He had a muslim name. Do they hate black people? Reason I ask is because while I was prepping him for his test there was a black guy there doing something, not sure what. But the look that the patient and his wife gave him was one of "hate" if I could describe it. I felt uncomfortable at that moment. So I'm wondering if people in those regions are racist or just don't like people with dark skin.
- Let me get this straight? Your brain immediately took into account the skin colors, without taking into account WHAT the black person was actually doing at YOUR JOB while prepping for the test? Wtf..?
And then you proceed to use that train of thought to post this on ISH and then you're awaiting a response to confirm that suspicion from this particular incident.
West-Side
12-01-2015, 03:33 PM
As some of you know, I live in the birthplace of religious freedom in America. My neighborhood has been deemed by Harvard/UPenn professors as "perhaps the most extreme case of religious pluralism in the world" (http://pluralism.org/affiliates/shanson/). Many different races, cultures, religions live on top of each other with virtually no incidences of tension or violence. It's a regular occurrence to see some sort of impromptu religious or cultural parade or event. Today was one such instance- I walked out of a Duane Reade and noticed police barricades and people gathering on an adjacent street.
I noticed a group of Muslims praying on a tarp that was laid out in the middle of the street, and some kids holding familiar flags. I've seen those at many an Islamic religious rite in the neighborhood.
http://s8.postimg.org/h4p77a8tx/Parade_2.jpg
But what really caught my attention was this:
http://s4.postimg.org/7bouykvxp/Parade_1.jpg
That's the lead car of the procession. Some of the signs read 'Death 2 Daish/ISIS', 'ISIS preaches Murder', and 'Those who support Daish/ISIS terrorism are traitors of peace'.
It took a while, but the Muslims finally got together to condemn radical Islamic terrorism. :applause:
Now I will patiently wait for White Christians to do the same with their terrorists.
Everything about your posts screams racism to me.
Nick Young
12-01-2015, 03:36 PM
Dark skin is considered low-status by some, i believe. I had a Pakistani friend at uni who used to switch whenever i called him blick.
White people want to be darker and buy fake tanning product. Dark skin arabs and South Asians want to be lighter and buy skin whitening creams and products. No one is happy with the color they are :(
JEFFERSON MONEY
12-01-2015, 03:42 PM
Dark skin is considered low-status by some, i believe. I had a Pakistani friend at uni who used to switch whenever i called him blick.
Culturally derived from self-loathing of their previous British masters. Not blaming it purely on England though, as it takes two to tango. Perhaps earlier as the dominant war-like Aryans conquered the mostly peaceful Dravidians, manipulated the information. Or even, as a telltale sign of the tan of an outdoor labor as opposed to living inside a palace.
Contemptible behavior.
As for the example of racism; it could have been the natural prideful ways of the Semitic Arabs or it could have been the mistrust immigrants have for black Americans, as they have had lesser time to establish in America. Both ultimately born of ignorance and pride. Moreover, a lack of compassion for the tribulations that African Americans had to endure; as no one really appreciates the extent to how much they were oppressed WELL after 1865; (only lately has the knowledge of how Similac was given to mothers in the community, the horrible lack of nutrition, the poor education, the lack of a strong father foundation reached my attention)
Also contemptible behavior.
DonDadda59
12-01-2015, 04:01 PM
Everything about your posts screams racism to me.
No (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqgHFcmAOc) :no:
Culturally derived from self-loathing of their previous British masters. Not blaming it purely on England though, as it takes two to tango. Perhaps earlier as the dominant war-like Aryans conquered the mostly peaceful Dravidians, manipulated the information. Or even, as a telltale sign of the tan of an outdoor labor as opposed to living inside a palace.
Contemptible behavior.
As for the example of racism; it could have been the natural prideful ways of the Semitic Arabs or it could have been the mistrust immigrants have for black Americans, as they have had lesser time to establish in America. Both ultimately born of ignorance and pride. Moreover, a lack of compassion for the tribulations that African Americans had to endure; as no one really appreciates the extent to how much they were oppressed WELL after 1865; (only lately has the knowledge of how Similac was given to mothers in the community, the horrible lack of nutrition, the poor education, the lack of a strong father foundation reached my attention)
Also contemptible behavior.
Your talents are wasted on these charlatans, myself included.
Dresta
12-01-2015, 04:25 PM
Culturally derived from self-loathing of their previous British masters. Not blaming it purely on England though, as it takes two to tango. Perhaps earlier as the dominant war-like Aryans conquered the mostly peaceful Dravidians, manipulated the information. Or even, as a telltale sign of the tan of an outdoor labor as opposed to living inside a palace.
Contemptible behavior.
As for the example of racism; it could have been the natural prideful ways of the Semitic Arabs or it could have been the mistrust immigrants have for black Americans, as they have had lesser time to establish in America. Both ultimately born of ignorance and pride. Moreover, a lack of compassion for the tribulations that African Americans had to endure; as no one really appreciates the extent to how much they were oppressed WELL after 1865; (only lately has the knowledge of how Similac was given to mothers in the community, the horrible lack of nutrition, the poor education, the lack of a strong father foundation reached my attention)
Also contemptible behavior.
yar, don't know enough about it personally to comment on the reasons, but that definitely makes sense. Standard desire to emulate those higher up on the social scale, often starting with the most superficial of things - eventually people just do it without knowing the source reason for it. Guess that's an extra problem when customs don't develop organically, but are somewhat implanted by the example set by foreign masters - contradictions, clashes, divisions.
But can't really blame the English: that male ambition, the desire for expansion and conquest, achievement and renown, is difficult to reign in - Europe was a pitched battle of ambition for centuries, and the English did a good job maintaining the balance of power, and preventing the emergence of something worse. Not to mention good ol' William Wilberforce!
senelcoolidge
12-01-2015, 04:46 PM
- Let me get this straight? Your brain immediately took into account the skin colors, without taking into account WHAT the black person was actually doing at YOUR JOB while prepping for the test? Wtf..?
And then you proceed to use that train of thought to post this on ISH and then you're awaiting a response to confirm that suspicion from this particular incident.
There were three people in the vicinity at the time. Myself, a white nurse, and a black fellow that works at the hospital which I'm not sure what his duty is there, but he works there. He just happened to be there. The patient and his wife didn't seem to have any problems with me and the white nurse. But when the black chap came in the eyes immediately went to him and they were just hateful. Hard to describe, but the eyes say a lot. Yeah, perhaps they thought he was going to steal their things...I don't know. It had to be some form of ignorance. The black guy wasn't doing anything wrong but I felt some serious tension in those people the way they looked at him. I'm just very observant.
poido123
12-02-2015, 06:39 PM
Five words comprehended: that must be some kind of new record for you - congrats on making some progress :applause:.
Not that your response made any sense though. My 'considering' them would be self-medication, unless you've somehow managed to become my doctor. Even your jokes don't make any sense :oldlol:. And now you've just admitted you spend your days trolling religious people on the internet: how sad. I'm not angry, i'm just putting you in your rightful place, which is in the gutter. I don't have any kind words for people who can't be anything but frivolous and flippant; so don't expect them, and you won't get so upset about it.
Also, tis funny how you think this is about you (of course), when the only reason i respond to your posts is because they are representative of a type that has become prevalent (even dominant) in recent years, and this type tends to make the same fallacious and ahistorical arguments that you peddle on here. You have this strange combination of arrogance and complacency and ignorance that is so common as to be an endemic symptom of modernity. You're one of those typical conformists who get their kicks posing as some kind of subversive: University campuses are littered with idiots of this sort. That is what i'm replying to: not you as an individual, for who could give the slightest **** about an internet wise-ass called DonDiddly?
I wouldn't expect you to care about me either, but seriously, you should rethink your entire worldview, because it's stupid as shit; almost every remotely intelligent young person goes through such a phase, and i did so myself between the ages of 14-22 or so, but luckily for me, i grew up. You still think like a child, and so does most of the adult Western world, which to me, is worrying to say the least. You could probably find some posts of mine on here from 2010 or so bashing religion in a similar way, but, ya know, growing up and stuff: it happens. If you're never willing to change your mind then you'll always be a fool.
Don got ethered here :roll: :roll:
poido123
12-02-2015, 06:49 PM
Because you have such a broad and correct understanding of religion :rolleyes:
Stop acting like you read the Quran, you read 4-5 versus and think you know what the entire book is about. People spend lifetime studying the book and still will not be able to fully grasp it's content because it is the word of god, NOT Mohammed. Hadiths are from Muhammed, Quran is straight from Allah passed down to the angel Gabriel who recited it to Muhammed. And btw, the Quran has the quoted material and more, that's how ik you've never read it because you wouldn't use this as an argument for the bible if you don't use it for the Quran as well...
Soooo many smartasses on ISH. Geniuses...wtf are you guys wasting your time on ISH for when you so smart? Go write a book Destra, everyone will pick up a copy and read it. Afterall, you understand all the religions better than any of us. :applause:
To be fair, for however innocent you believe the teachings of Quran to be, it is producing some extremely violent mtherfckers.
Nearly all terrorists are Muslim or claim to be Muslim.
It seems to be certain sub groups within Sunni Muslims who go this extreme path. I think if the Muslim community can identify these troubled sub groups and expose them, I think it could go a long way to cutting out the nut jobs.
WAHABBI teachings must be abolished!!!!
DonDadda59
12-02-2015, 06:59 PM
Don got ethered here :roll: :roll:
Yeah, well... that's just like, your opinion... man.
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