View Full Version : "Blind" Andre Drummond up to his old tricks from the FT line
6-29 the last two games. 20.7%
:facepalm
DeuceWallaces
11-30-2015, 11:34 PM
You're an idiot if you ever thought he was even serviceable; nothing has changed.
You're an idiot if you ever thought he was even serviceable; nothing has changed.
I know he's all-time horrendous at FTs. He's usually better than 6-29 though. Inexcusable. Why hasn't he at least made moderate improvements yet? Dude is possibly the worst FT shooter ever.
Rake2204
12-01-2015, 01:15 AM
I know he's all-time horrendous at FTs. He's usually better than 6-29 though. Inexcusable. Why hasn't he at least made moderate improvements yet? Dude is possibly the worst FT shooter ever.As of right now, I believe he's most certainly on pace to become the worst ever. I think he just needs to hit a career attempts quota to qualify (which he may have already done.)
Tough to say why he can't improve. Most of the worst free throw shooters in NBA history seem to have a similar inability. Like all the other awful shooters, I've heard he can hit quite a bit more in practice. And the Pistons are doing what they can (they hired shooting master Dave Hoppla this past summer.)
As a whole, I'm just not sure Drummond ever learned how to shoot, period. It's like he missed out on that period in his youth where he develops a general feel for the ball. Instead, the opposite seems to have set itself in stone.
As of right now, I believe he's most certainly on pace to become the worst ever. I think he just needs to hit a career attempts quota to qualify (which he may have already done.)
Tough to say why he can't improve. Most of the worst free throw shooters in NBA history seem to have a similar inability. Like all the other awful shooters, I've heard he can hit quite a bit more in practice. And the Pistons are doing what they can (they hired shooting master Dave Hoppla this past summer.)
As a whole, I'm just not sure Drummond ever learned how to shoot, period. It's like he missed out on that period in his youth where he develops a general feel for the ball. Instead, the opposite seems to have set itself in stone.
It drives me crazy. :lol I have him in both my fantasy leagues. In my points league, it doesn't matter since he always has such monster stat lines that his FT bricks get cancelled out and then some. But in my basic league holy shit. I can't win FT%
Missed FTS bother me immensely. My two favorite players ever (TMac, LeBron) both were about 75% shooters from the line and that bothered me. Drummond is just.... 0_0
CelticBaller
12-01-2015, 01:32 AM
Still GOATing
I<3NBA
12-01-2015, 01:44 AM
practice makes perfect only if you practice the correct form
if you practice the wrong form for years, you will master it :lol
Drummond has mastered the art of missing the free throw
he misses it 80% of the time! that's some dedication :lol
maybe his shooting coach should teach him to try missing the shot. maybe it'll go in :lol
Milbuck
12-01-2015, 02:04 AM
I think the bigger problems with Detroit are their lack of shooting (funny coming from a Bucks fan), and Reggie Jackson being an absolute moron like 50% of the time. Drummond is who he is from the FT line. Just gotta accept it. But he's a beast/beast in the making almost everywhere else. But they really need a more reliable PG and more shooting options around Dre and the PG.
SpaceJam
12-01-2015, 02:05 AM
Peep DeAndre Jordan right now....RIP FT% on fantasy
Lucky I ain't care about that category
I think the bigger problems with Detroit are their lack of shooting (funny coming from a Bucks fan), and Reggie Jackson being an absolute moron like 50% of the time. Drummond is who he is from the FT line. Just gotta accept it. But he's a beast/beast in the making almost everywhere else. But they really need a more reliable PG and more shooting options around Dre and the PG.
Play Rashad Vaughn if you need shooting?
Milbuck
12-01-2015, 02:09 AM
Play Rashad Vaughn if you need shooting?
Tell that to Jason Kidd, not me lol.
Tell that to Jason Kidd, not me lol.
Do you miss Ersan for that reason or nah? Dudley definitely helped for shooting.
Milbuck
12-01-2015, 02:18 AM
Do you miss Ersan for that reason or nah? Dudley definitely helped for shooting.
Nah, Ersan sucked like 75% of the time. Streaky as f*ck and just couldn't be relied upon at all. Dudley was a loss though. Forget his shooting, his leadership would be huge right now. He was for us what Grandpa KG and Andre Miller are to the TWolves youth right now.
FKAri
12-01-2015, 02:22 AM
Meanwhile Towns sitting at 90% as a C
Meanwhile Towns sitting at 90% as a C
:bowdown:
Rake2204
12-01-2015, 10:55 AM
practice makes perfect only if you practice the correct form
if you practice the wrong form for years, you will master it :lol
Drummond has mastered the art of missing the free throw
he misses it 80% of the time! that's some dedication :lolI think that's the long and short of it. There's no doubt people are working with him every day. And I know with certainty they're not telling him to shoot his free throws straight-legged in two different segments. Yet, that's where we are because as you said, he's mastered bad form.
It has cost the Pistons, and it will continue to cost the Pistons. I guess it's the basketball god's way of keeping him human.
DeuceWallaces
12-01-2015, 11:44 AM
Meanwhile Towns sitting at 90% as a C
So envious. Drummond would be a top 5 player if he could shoot 65%.
The CPU Drummond airballed a FT in my 2K16 association last night. I was literally shocked. I recorded the clip too, lol. He missed it like WAY to the right...
Gileraracer
12-01-2015, 01:37 PM
Just like Dwight Coward or Shaq, he doesn't give a fukk
Dude is 12 of his last 50 :biggums:
He's at it again. In his last 6 games, "Blind" Andre is 6-33, or 18.2%. :roll: :roll: :roll:
He's down to 36.2% for the year, which is bad even for him.
AirBonner
01-13-2016, 12:35 PM
He's at it again. In his last 6 games, "Blind" Andre is 6-33, or 18.2%. :roll: :roll: :roll:
He's down to 36.2% for the year, which is bad even for him.
Damn. No nba player should be that bad at free throws.
Phenith
01-13-2016, 12:48 PM
He's at it again. In his last 6 games, "Blind" Andre is 6-33, or 18.2%. :roll: :roll: :roll:
He's down to 36.2% for the year, which is bad even for him.
Literally 4.5 lost points per game for Detroit, just from him.
Literally 4.5 lost points per game for Detroit, just from him.
Yeah, apparently SVG has gotten so sick of it that he's benching him in close games. You know SVG wants to play Drummond, but it's so risky in those situations.
kamil
01-13-2016, 01:11 PM
How the **** do you practice every day, get paid millions of dollars, play 82 games a season as your ****ing JOB and are still incapable of making one of the easiest shots in basketball?
I had a better average in FTs than these clowns in grade school. There's no excuse for them to not be able to make a ****ing FREE THROW.
Bosnian Sajo
01-14-2016, 01:14 AM
Nah, Ersan sucked like 75% of the time. Streaky as f*ck and just couldn't be relied upon at all. Dudley was a loss though. Forget his shooting, his leadership would be huge right now. He was for us what Grandpa KG and Andre Miller are to the TWolves youth right now.
Lol, sucked but when he was on the team last year the Bucks were in the Playoffs. Now they are among the worst in the East, but you're better off, right? I know Ersan is...in Detroit, who will be in the playoffs after missing it for the past how many years.
Argue all you want, I'm giving you facts.
:biggums: 1-10 today.
34.7% on the year :wtf:
Xiao Yao You
01-26-2016, 12:43 AM
So envious. Drummond would be a top 5 player if he could shoot 65%.
Wasn't even the best center in this game. I haven't been impressed with him the two times he's played the Jazz this year.
Rake2204
01-26-2016, 01:29 AM
Wasn't even the best center in this game. I haven't been impressed with him the two times he's played the Jazz this year.Drummond was pretty awful tonight. I'm not sure if he totally knows how to attack someone with the length Gobert can offer (admittedly, he doesn't see that a lot). I thought he was on to something when he began bullying Gobert a little in the second half of their first meeting but it didn't last long. And tonight, all I remember is a lefty hook then Gobert dunking in Drummond's grill a few times.
Drummond's been pretty rough lately regardless, though. After the Rockets game (when he shot 13-36 from the line), other teams have wisely begun to copy cat that defensive approach loosely, employing the Hack-a-Dre just long enough to get Van Gundy to run with Aron Baynes (like Utah did tonight).
Baynes, for what it's worth, has actually been outplaying Drummond over the last week or so. I've been pretty impressed.
Sidenote: If I counted right, I think Drummond's 30 for his last 108 from the line (27.7 percent). Perhaps most disturbingly, his 13-36 boosts his average over that stretch by four percentage points.
Xiao Yao You
01-26-2016, 02:20 AM
Drummond was pretty awful tonight. I'm not sure if he totally knows how to attack someone with the length Gobert can offer (admittedly, he doesn't see that a lot). I thought he was on to something when he began bullying Gobert a little in the second half of their first meeting but it didn't last long. And tonight, all I remember is a lefty hook then Gobert dunking in Drummond's grill a few times.
Drummond's been pretty rough lately regardless, though. After the Rockets game (when he shot 13-36 from the line), other teams have wisely begun to copy cat that defensive approach loosely, employing the Hack-a-Dre just long enough to get Van Gundy to run with Aron Baynes (like Utah did tonight).
Baynes, for what it's worth, has actually been outplaying Drummond over the last week or so. I've been pretty impressed.
Sidenote: If I counted right, I think Drummond's 30 for his last 108 from the line (27.7 percent). Perhaps most disturbingly, his 13-36 boosts his average over that stretch by four percentage points.
Not sure anyone has the length of Gobert. I think it's the first time Snyder has hacked a guy on purpose. He said he doesn't like it but the way he is shooting at the line you have no choice.
Another classic game from the Helen Keller of the NBA. 1-9 on FTs
Random_Guy
01-30-2016, 11:26 PM
Another classic game from the Helen Keller of the NBA. 1-9 on FTs
helen keller would be better than 1-9
inclinerator
01-30-2016, 11:26 PM
Another classic game from the Helen Keller of the NBA. 1-9 on FTs
paying tribute to mj
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/6643f0a61c9e77062a3ed1695f3e8c3c.jpg
G-train
01-31-2016, 06:30 AM
Yer this is beyond a joke bad.
JohnFreeman
02-01-2016, 11:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IBUne2f.jpg
KOBEtherealKing
02-02-2016, 12:06 AM
I guess 2k16 is a little realistic, he gets airball free throw violations and wide rights and lefts on the game too :roll:
Wiltside
02-02-2016, 03:55 PM
I find it entertaining.
ErhnamDjinn
02-02-2016, 04:33 PM
Just like Dwight Coward or Shaq, he doesn't give a fukk
shaq was never that bad and could sometimes be relied on the clutch.
WayOfWade
02-02-2016, 04:35 PM
shaq was never that bad and could sometimes be relied on the clutch.
True, Shaq prided himself on hitting big FT's when it counted
WayOfWade
04-02-2016, 10:11 PM
And Drummond is now 1/10 on free throws in the Pistons-Bulls game right now. I just don't get it, Whiteside improved his FT's in a single season, yet Andre can't/won't
Dresta
04-03-2016, 10:19 AM
True, Shaq prided himself on hitting big FT's when it counted
This is such bs. If you make 50% or less of your fts, then you've missed plenty that "counted."
StephHamann
04-03-2016, 10:36 AM
He should throw grandma style
CarlosBoozer
04-03-2016, 11:02 AM
holy fvck
Detroit
04-03-2016, 11:09 AM
If he attempted to hit the backboard, then he would've hit more than 1-10. sht was ridiculous.
Jesus Christ how is he this bad
It’s funny reading this thread and seeing what the perception of Drummond used to be. The common consensus in this thread was if he could just stop being the worst ever at free throws and get to even regular shitty level (say 50-60%) he’d be a monster. Well he did improve his free throws massively…staring in 2017-2018, he has shot 60.5%, 59.0%, 57.5%, 60.0% and 52.4% from the line. And so far this year he’s at 71.4%, albeit this is a small sample size and I doubt he’ll actually shoot much above 60%. And yet he is regarded as a poor player who puts up completely meaningless stats and is now relegated to backup duty. His free throw improvement has not made him a star at all. I had forgotten how highly regarded he used to be. Still you have to give him credit for improving his free throws so much. He was legitimately on pace to break Ben Wallace’s record for lowest career FT% and he was going to be way lower than Wallace; he was in the high 30s (35.5% one season)! Now he has brought his career FT% all the way up to 47.4%. He’s still a very bad free throw shooter but he’s just normal bad instead of WOAT level now and can theoretically stay on the floor in close games (he wouldn’t though because he’s no longer valued around the league).
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