Are the Celts one of the GOAT peoples of the world?

[TheMan]

Lately I've been reading up on the ancient Celts (pronounced Kelts) because my DNA results showed that me, as a Mexican dude believing until recently that I was mostly indigenous and Spanish ancestry, had nothing in common with the Celtic peoples.

But I had a DNA test done and found out that I have Celtic and Visigothic ancestry (explains my mother's blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin by way of my Spanish great grandparents). I used to think the Celts were all about Ireland but these mofos originated in central Europe and spread all through Europe and left their legacy everywhere.

Ireland obviously is where their lasting legacy remains the strongest but a whole lot of people may have Celtic ancestry and have no idea about it...

I might switch my allegiances from Bulls fan to Celtics in honor of my ginger ancestors :applause:

On the downside, Billo might be a distant relative :mad:

[DeuceWallaces]

Read the Mabinogion.

[TheMan]

Read the Mabinogion.
Thanks, I will...downloading the PDF.

Crazy to think how humans are way more linked to one another than we previously thought due to DNA testing... I'm reading up on the Celtiberians (the Celtic peoples that inhabited much of Spain).

[Akrazotile]

OP is a gimmick account

[Nick Young]

Celts aren't an ethnic group. Celts means anyone who speaks a Celtic language and can mean anything from Bretons to Welsh people. There was never at any point in history a group of people who identified themselves a Celt, or Celtic.

Celtic people are an ethnic group created by lazy European academics in the 1700s.

[TheMan]

OP is a gimmick account
Yo Starface, you 30 something year old failed actor still-living-off-his-parents rightwing blowhard loser, please do tell how I'm trolling :confusedshrug:

If you got nutting to say, calladito te ves mas bonito, wey.

[TheMan]

Celts aren't an ethnic group. Celts means anyone who speaks a Celtic language and can mean anything from Bretons to Welsh people. There was never at any point in history a group of people who identified themselves a Celt, or Celtic.

Celtic people are an ethnic group created by lazy European academics in the 1700s.
I'm no expert but they were known as Celtics long before the 1700s :facepalm:

[Nick Young]

I'm no expert but they were known as Celtics long before the 1700s :facepalm:
You certainly are no expert.

[QUOTE]The confusion relating to the term ‘Celt’ is down to 17th/18th century linguists, helped by modern willful ignorance. There were a people whom the Greeks and Romans called the Celts inhabiting Spain, France, and Central Europe back in the days when Greek education was the envy of the world. Whether or not these people were Celts is even up for debate; it’s one thing when Herodotus in the 5th century BCE refers to Celts, it’s a whole other thing when Caesar talks about them four hundred and fifty odd years later. Of course Caesar tells us that the people he’s conquering for their own good call themselves Celts, but we really only have his word for that, and he had an agenda, but some of them at least were probably the same people Herodotus was also writing about. But did they call themselves Celts?

The Romans called the Greeks ‘Greek’, a mistake that we’ve inherited, but that’s not what the Greeks called themselves; in their minds there were Hellenes. The first group of Hellenes the Romans met were a tribe called the Graecians, and so they baptised an entire people with the name of one small contingent. So the people who Herodotus and Caesar called ‘Celts’ may only have been a small tribe of people, they might not have thought of themselves as Celts, they may have had no ethnic unity or consciousness whatsoever, unlike the Greeks and the Romans, aside from knowing that they were not Greek or Roman. These ‘Celts’ did share a common culture and language group (the individual languages may not have been readily intelligible to one-another, just as a modern Irish speaker would not immediately grasp modern Welsh), but they were not a nation as we now understand the term. This culture and language was shared by the peoples in the archipelago just off the north coast of Gaul, but they were not Celts.

From the Ireland to Germany, Spain to Turkey, lived a people who spoke languages with a common ancestor. When this common ancestor was proposed it made sense, to the 17th/18th century mind steeped in Classical learning, to call this ancient language ‘Celtic’. It was hardly the best term to choose, but we’re stuck with it. And that is how, very simply, the Irish, Welsh, and Scots became Celtic. It’s just a term, a very specific term in linguistics. Latin and its descendants (French, Spanish, Romanian, etc.) are Italic languages, but that doesn’t mean that the people of Chile, Madagascar, Macau, or Vietnam are Italian. The term ‘Celtic’ is used in a very specific fashion in an academic context, there are books and articles on Celtic Theology, Celtic Sources, etc., on the bookshelves of many a university library, but in the shops on the high-street the term is almost ritually abused for the sake of money. You can buy Celtic Wisdom for

[fiddy]

I'm no expert but they were known as Celtics long before the 1700s :facepalm:
As well as the Germans, but there was no German state until the 19th century

[Akrazotile]

OP is a gimmick account

[TheMan]

You certainly are no expert.
OK...new question, are the Visigothic GOAT peoples of the world?:hammerhead:

[iTare]

Yo Starface, you 30 something year old failed actor still-living-off-his-parents rightwing blowhard loser, please do tell how I'm trolling :confusedshrug:

If you got nutting to say, calladito te ves mas bonito, wey.
http://i.imgur.com/thhgY.gif

[Nick Young]

OK...new question, are the Visigothic GOAT peoples of the world?:hammerhead:
definitely not.

[KevinNYC]

Are the Celts one of the GOAT peoples of the world?

Yes.

And the greatest of the Celts are the Manx.

[knickballer]

According to Aristotle, most "belligerent nations" were strongly influenced by their women, but the Celts were unusual because their men openly preferred male lovers. In book XIII of his Deipnosophists, the Roman Greek rhetorician and grammarian Athenaeus, repeating assertions made by Diodorus Siculus in the 1st century BC (Bibliotheca historica 5:32), wrote that Celtic women were beautiful but that the men preferred to sleep together.


OP is confirmed a descendant of the Celts

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Second favorite Age of Empires II Civilization.

[outbreak]

The history of the whole great Britain region is really under exposed and not well told these days

[Akrazotile]

Second favorite Age of Empires II Civilization.


GOAT siege weapons :rockon:

[TheMan]

OP is confirmed a descendant of the Celts
Bruh, trolling has existed since the dawn of man...Aristotle was just trolling the Celts.

That or he was confusing them with his fellow Greeks :lol

[NumberSix]

The people of the British isles are most closely related to the people of Spain.

[Dresta]

OK...new question, are the Visigothic GOAT peoples of the world?:hammerhead:
No: they sucked ass.

[CeltsGarlic]

Reading all these comments i just wanna say thank you, it means a lot :)

[NumberSix]

Here's who isn't the G.O.A.T. people. Any people that isn't around anymore.

[Lebowsky]

Lately I've been reading up on the ancient Celts (pronounced Kelts) because my DNA results showed that me, as a Mexican dude believing until recently that I was mostly indigenous and Spanish ancestry, had nothing in common with the Celtic peoples.

But I had a DNA test done and found out that I have Celtic and Visigothic ancestry (explains my mother's blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin by way of my Spanish great grandparents). I used to think the Celts were all about Ireland but these mofos originated in central Europe and spread all through Europe and left their legacy everywhere.

Ireland obviously is where their lasting legacy remains the strongest but a whole lot of people may have Celtic ancestry and have no idea about it...

I might switch my allegiances from Bulls fan to Celtics in honor of my ginger ancestors :applause:

On the downside, Billo might be a distant relative :mad:

The fact that you have Spanish ancestry pretty much gives you a 50/50 chance of having celtic or celtiberian ancestry as well, depending on what part of Spain your ancestors were from.

The Celts arrived in the Iberian peninsula through northwest Spain (current Galicia and Asturias) and north Portugal, and they spread out pretty much throughout the whole north half of the peninsula. With the passing of time, the tribes living more to the East (current eastern Castilla la Mancha and western Aragon) became different from the Celts living in the northwest and were known as Celtiberians (with ties with both the Celts and the Iberians).

[Shade8780]

YES.

Tiocfaidh

[rezznor]

nah, they could easily be defeated with a sunlamp.

[TheMan]

The fact that you have Spanish ancestry pretty much gives you a 50/50 chance of having celtic or celtiberian ancestry as well, depending on what part of Spain your ancestors were from.

The Celts arrived in the Iberian peninsula through northwest Spain (current Galicia and Asturias) and north Portugal, and they spread out pretty much throughout the whole north half of the peninsula. With the passing of time, the tribes living more to the East (current eastern Castilla la Mancha and western Aragon) became different from the Celts living in the northwest and were known as Celtiberians (with ties with both the Celts and the Iberians).
Interesting, yeah I'm pretty much reading up on these people. Weird to think that I have ancestral ties to these folks. I never knew my great grandparents, they passed away before I was born but one of my oldest aunts used to tell me stories of my great grandpa, he was an amazing dude. He and his wife came from Spain with only the shirt off his back and within a few years owned a bunch of haciendas and became very wealthy. I remember my aunt telling me that we have relatives in Valladolid and Sevilla, she passed away a few years back so those contacts went with her unless my cousins also knew them, I'll have to ask them the next time I see them.

[outbreak]

Another reason dna gets spread so much is rape and slavery. If you sacked a town or village some cultures would expect to then rape all the women leaving their dna in that area or bring scene back to their cities introducing that dna to theirs

[Lebowsky]

Interesting, yeah I'm pretty much reading up on these people. Weird to think that I have ancestral ties to these folks. I never knew my great grandparents, they passed away before I was born but one of my oldest aunts used to tell me stories of my great grandpa, he was an amazing dude. He and his wife came from Spain with only the shirt off his back and within a few years owned a bunch of haciendas and became very wealthy. I remember my aunt telling me that we have relatives in Valladolid and Sevilla, she passed away a few years back so those contacts went with her unless my cousins also knew them, I'll have to ask them the next time I see them.
Then he may have been a republican fleeing from the Civil War or the political prosecution of the dictatorship that came right after. Lots of republicans migrated to Mexico back then.

[JohnnySic]

Yep.

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