Akrazotile, Chewing and other ISH racists/bigots please read....

[Knoe Itawl]

I debated back and forth about starting this thread. Ultimately, I decided to do so for a couple of reasons.

A. There may be minorities on here who are ashamed when racists giddily post crime statistics regarding blacks and other groups. This is a response to them, and their rhetoric. Never be ashamed at what white racists post. They are NOT better than you.
B. Some of my white brothers may read this and it may make a profound difference to them. I know it’s unlikely to move people like Akrazotil, because they are too invested in their smug superiority that they know everything and are so far above blacks and other groups, but perhaps more open minded individuals will look at this as a wake- up call.
C. My like minded white brothers will take this into their own worlds and make a difference.

First of all, I’ll start by saying that I try to see all people as individuals. I was fortunate to grow up in a multi-cultural environment that had people from all walks of life. I am at peace with myself and who I am. Therefore, there is nothing any racist can say that would ever make me feel in any way inferior – I know better.

Ok, so now the point. I mentioned this previously, but there was a study that came out recently that was a shock to a lot of people. The study showed that, despite the fact that this figure has gone down for mostly every other group, middle aged white men and women are dying at alarming rates.


While the death rate is rising for members at all education levels, researchers found the most profound impact on individuals with lower levels of education. For those men and women, morbidity rates climbed at an unprecedented rate—22 percent––from 1999 to 2013. Overall, the researchers estimate that the rising mortality rate for white middle-aged men and women resulted in half a million more people who died since 1998, who would not have died if previous patterns had continued—an impact comparable to the devastating loss of life from the US Aids epidemic.

To understand how significant this is, you need to realize that the US is the richest country in the history of civilization. On top of that, white males have controlled the overwhelming majority of the wealth and power in this country since inception. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THEY BE DYING AT THESE NUMBERS????


Researchers linked these deaths to rising levels of drug and alcohol poisonings, suicide, and chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, finding that for those less educated, drug and alcohol deaths rose fourfold, suicides increased by 81 percent, and deaths caused by liver disease and cirrhosis increased 50 percent.
They then looked further to the potential causes behind these forms of mortality, pointing to escalating levels of chronic pain, financial stress, and difficulties with work, socializing and activities of daily living. The resulting psychological and physical distress appeared to cascade to create an “epidemic of despair,” which becomes exponentially more dangerous in an environment where prescription drugs and heroin are becoming readily available.

Now why is this? I posit that it is the policies of their fellow white males that have caused this. You see they’ve brainwashed large segments of the population into believing that “it’s the muslims, or the blacks or the Mexicans or whatever group” that is “taking from them” and “not making America great”. It is why the reaction to Obama was so visceral and went far beyond merely disagreeing with his policies. It was pure HATRED for the man. Hell, I don’t like everything Obama’s done, but there’s been nothing to indicate that (for whatever faults he has) that he’s anything less than a family man, who did all the things that they say you should do for success – got a great education, stayed on the right path and got all the way to the level of President. But many knuckle-draggers hate him just for being black – hence the “birther” crowd and all the racial animosity he’s faced.

But back to the rising suicide rate amongst whites. The policies of the past 30 years with Regan’s “trickle -down economics” (a ridiculous idea that even his CHIEF ECONOMIST says was terrible) has lead directly to this. Trickle down doesn’t work, and so vast quantities of wealth have been removed from the middle class, and moved to the 1%. Jobs shipped overseas for the almightly profit. So those factory jobs where you could be the sole bread winner, yet still support a family have been wiped out. This has lead to large groups of whites who now face despair – which makes them turn to drugs, alcohol, unhealthy eating habits, etc. It’s not those blacks killing each other in Chicago that caused this (in fact these same policies have exacerbated that type of thing but that’s for another thread). It’s not the Mexicans (net immigration is at zero and has been DECLINING) regardless of what Trump tells you).

Whites have more to fear from themselves (whites kill each other 84% of the time, the alarming rise in white mortality from suicides, etc. that has been mentioned) than the black boogeyman. Racists judge all blacks by the actions of some, but curiously do not apply that same logic to their own selves. They say that Muslims need to “speak out and condemn extremist activities” or blacks need to “own up to their high crime levels, and what goes on in their culture” while doing nothing of the same inner soul searching they require of others. They pretend that the “thug” or criminal is indicative of the behavior of the black community at large – while refusing to call the likes of Dear, (Planned Parenthood shooting), Routh etc. terrorists. While refusing to see that whites commit horrendous crimes from high rates of pedophilia to spree killers, mass murderers, family annihilators, etc. Not to mention the white collar crimes that steal billions from their own people. While not seeing the devastation of heroin in white communities in the Northeast, and the devastation of meth in the mid-west.

I’m asking you my racist white brothers to wake up. Your culture isn’t superior. If it was, you wouldn’t be dying in middle age at alarming rates, while the same isn’t happening to other groups AS AS A RESULT OF YOUR OWN HUBRIS. Remember, whites have control of the vast majority of wealth and power in this country. That they would allow for conditions that are killing so much of their own isn’t superiority, it’s naked greed and excess. Trump is popular amongst ignorant whites because of the culmination of anger at other rich whites – only they don’t’ understand that so channel the hatred towards “others”. If you are to survive, and this country isn’t to go the way of Rome, we need to work together to fight the real enemy – the oligarchy who hates you as much as me. I know it’s hard because you’ve been bred to believe that you’re better than other people purely because of your skin color. But this delusion, I repeat IS KILLING YOU. These death rates are only going to get worse if things continue unchanged.

And whites don’t do well with adversity. White people commit suicide at rates much higher than other groups, and as shown it’s getting worse. This is while benefitting from white priviledge!! You claim blacks use slavery as an “excuse” for the present dysfunction in many black communities but come on. Be honest for just a second. White people kill themselves when the stock market fluctuates a few points. You think if the situation had been reversed and blacks held whites as slaves that they would be doing even as well as blacks are today? There’s no way. White kids from middle class backgrounds shoot up schools because they feel isolated (boo hoo). Imagine 400 years of oppression? Whites would’ve killed themselves off years ago – you know it’s true.

Please don’t attack me as the messenger. If your doctor told you you had a brain tumor, would you attack him or would you try to do everything possible to alleviate the situation? Just like you’re “posting facts” when you jerk off to black crime statistics, I’m “posting facts” when I tell you that this study is showing an epidemic. If you don’t’ change now and fight the real enemy, it’s only going to get worse. I value all people, no matter what color you are. I also value truth. You’re wasting your time being racists. Again, I get that you’ve been brainwashed, but break those chains. Like a Scientologist finally realizing he’s been duped. Let go of your ignorance. Your arrogance. My white brothers, we can do this together. I take no pleasure in these facts. I’m sure there are many good white folks who are suffering and dying because of the actions of their fellow whites. Unlike you guys who have orgasms when black men die, I want a stable prosperous country for all.

This can never be if you choose to remain ignorant and not realize that the enemy is not the “others”. It is yourselves………..

Peace to all of my white brothers.

sources

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/friendship-observation/201511/death-knell-is-ringing-white-middle-aged-americans

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201305/white-middle-age-suicide-in-america-skyrockets

[Nanners]

good post, sad that it will almost certainly be disregarded by the people you are trying to reach.

[fiddy]

OP is a PC bitch

[knickballer]

Seems like these idiots only shoot up universities, planned parenthood buildings or building that is politically sensitive.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Excellent post.

Chewing seems to be pretty damn evil and very unlearned and willfully ignorant, 9er is pure evil (in terms of duty; one of Satan's little mischievous f*ckboys), Nick is a one-sided scandalmongering troll, BigNBAFan is arrogant and ignorant, UK2K is good at shooting not so much cultural discussion, tomtucker is just flat out sick in the head, BlazersDozen is a trigger-happy moron that's not even human. These are the posters that need your advice the most.

They remind me of a crazed bunch of lunatics from Lord of the Flies running around the fire ready to kill Simon.

These guys are about one recruiter away from being full on Al-Craqa channeling their self-hatred and aggression at the innocent.


But Akrazotile for the most part seems to be a decent fellow; always has been.

[fiddy]

These guys are about one recruiter away from being full on Al-Craqa channeling their self-hatred and aggression at the innocent.



Thats what happens, when the jooce push fake virtues, no moral and anti-culture on their way for world domination.

[KNOW1EDGE]

OP makes a thread calling people racist and bigots and then proceeds to be a racist bigot himself. Nice.

[fiddy]

OP makes a thread calling people racist and bigots and then proceeds to be a racist bigot himself. Nice.
Racism is a natural and rational notion, OP is a confused humanoid caught in the falseness of the PC

[DeuceWallaces]

Excellent post.

Chewing seems to be pretty damn evil and very unlearned and willfully ignorant, 9er is pure evil (in terms of duty; one of Satan's little mischievous f*ckboys), Nick is a one-sided scandalmongering troll, BigNBAFan is arrogant and ignorant, UK2K is good at shooting not so much cultural discussion, tomtucker is just flat out sick in the head, BlazersDozen is a trigger-happy moron that's not even human. These are the posters that need your advice the most.

They remind me of a crazed bunch of lunatics from Lord of the Flies running around the fire ready to kill Simon.

These guys are about one recruiter away from being full on Al-Craqa channeling their self-hatred and aggression at the innocent.


But Akrazotile for the most part seems to be a decent fellow; always has been.

Spot on except 9er. He's either mentally disabled/Ignatius Reilly or just a 1st rate troll along the lines of a super Nick.

[GIF REACTION]

This is ****ing pathetic. You spout claims of racism then proceed to be racist? You speak of culture? Perhaps if you weren't so short-sighted you'd see that European culture is superior to third world culture. I'm sorry. It's just the truth. No racism there. Unless you think death, famine and disease is a good thing. The very freedoms and liberties we all so you enjoy, the very ones you so enjoy. Do not spit on culture that has allowed life to prosper.

All in life is death, where there is beginning.. there is end.

There is problems on both sides to this. Always has been. 2 sides to every story. Even Hitler can be seen as a hero in the right frame. But do not patronize us and play the moral high ground, when you try this shit. Fighting fire with fire serves no purpose but to enrage the flames. Divide and conquer . You must ask yourself what is most important for America? For the machine of the world functions better when each and every component puts it's own first.

But sadly this is not how the world works. It is not how it has ever worked. Conflict is human nature. Everything from our biological racial makeup to our values and ideals separate us. We are not one big happy species. Never have been, never will be. Minimizing conflict is the key. The extinction of European culture and race is in motion. If it were happening to any other domestic population today it would be a big deal. We are past that as civilizations. The colonial era is over. This is the slow knife that kills Europe from the inside... It is an invasion. Plain and simple. An invasion of demography. The PC shackles and egalitarian niceties of the modern world blind us from what is really happening. This is no different to the jews taking over Palestine. The means by which it was achieved is no doubt different, but the scheme and result is the same.

This is a problem for Europe more so than America at the moment. But do not be mistaken. America is shrinking more and more and Mexico is growing. Demographics are everything.

[Knoe Itawl]

This is ****ing pathetic. You spout claims of racism then proceed to be racist? You speak of culture? Perhaps if you weren't so short-sighted you'd see that European culture is superior to third world culture. I'm sorry. It's just the truth. No racism there. Unless you think death, famine and disease is a good thing. The very freedoms and liberties we all so you enjoy, the very ones you so enjoy. Do not spit on culture that has allowed life to prosper.

All in life is death, where there is beginning.. there is end.

There is problems on both sides to this. Always has been. 2 sides to every story. Even Hitler can be seen as a hero in the right frame. But do not patronize us and play the moral high ground, when you try this shit. Fighting fire with fire serves no purpose but to enrage the flames. Divide and conquer . You must ask yourself what is most important for America? For the machine of the world functions better when each and every component puts it's own first.

But sadly this is not how the world works. It is not how it has ever worked. Conflict is human nature. Everything from our biological racial makeup to our values and ideals separate us. We are not one big happy species. Never have been, never will be. Minimizing conflict is the key. The extinction of European culture and race is in motion. If it were happening to any other domestic population today it would be a big deal. We are past that as civilizations. The colonial era is over. This is the slow knife that kills Europe from the inside... It is an invasion. Plain and simple. An invasion of demography. The PC shackles and egalitarian niceties of the modern world blind us from what is really happening. This is no different to the jews taking over Palestine. The means by which it was achieved is no doubt different, but the scheme and result is the same.

This is a problem for Europe more so than America at the moment. But do not be mistaken. America is shrinking more and more and Mexico is growing. Demographics are everything.

*sigh* It's a shame that no matter how well presented, a point will always fly over people's heads. I said nothing in my post that was racist. I also said I value all people. I also said that people (whites, blacks, etc)need to come together to find real solutions to these problems.

Yet all you got out of all of that was that I was being racist. It is incredible to me how often people just fly off the handle without displaying reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Truly amazing.

Instead of blathering nonsense, why don't you tell me exactly what you disagree with that I wrote.

[fiddy]

*sigh* It's a shame that no matter how well presented, a point will always fly over people's heads. I said nothing in my post that was racist. I also said I value all people. I also said that people (whites, blacks, etc)need to come together to find real solutions to these problems.

Yet all you got out of all of that was that I was being racist. It is incredible to me how often people just fly off the handle without displaying reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Truly amazing.

Instead of blathering nonsense, why don't you tell me exactly what you disagree with that I wrote.
You used a stereotype to refer to a group of people, while trying to urge them not to do so :roll:

[StephHamann]

meltdown

[ArbitraryWater]

fiddy are you tryna be poetic with your "Where I Reside" under Location? :roll:

Foh

[TheMan]

Yo Knoe Itawl, are you a fellow Iron Maiden fan? I've noticed that you always rock Maiden avys, you used to have the cover of their Killers album, amirite?

I'm changing the subject because unfortunately I believe your attempts at changing those racists viewpoints are futile, dumbass gon' dumbass

[NumberSix]

Hate to break it to OP, but Europeans historically have gone through far more adversity than black Americans. It's not even really a comparison.

The plague that wiped out 30-50% of Europe, 900+ Years of jihadist invasion, occupation and enslavement, 2 world wars that killed more than 100 million people, etc.... Yet these people somehow seem to be the source of nearly every worthwhile thing of the last 500 years and are the most prosperous people in the history of the world and for some unknown reason are expected to share that prosperity with everyone else.

If they can manage to be as prosperous as they are through all of that, nobody else has an excuse as to why they aren't prosperous.

And yes, their culture is superior. That's the big difference maker in all of this. People are people. South Americans, Africans and middle easterners are just as capable as European people. Europeans aren't special. They aren't genetically destined for prosperity or something. The difference is culture.

[GIF REACTION]

*sigh* It's a shame that no matter how well presented, a point will always fly over people's heads. I said nothing in my post that was racist. I also said I value all people. I also said that people (whites, blacks, etc)need to come together to find real solutions to these problems.

Yet all you got out of all of that was that I was being racist. It is incredible to me how often people just fly off the handle without displaying reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Truly amazing.

Instead of blathering nonsense, why don't you tell me exactly what you disagree with that I wrote.
You singled whites out as the problem

You are the racist in this thread

Just as you claim your race gets painted with the same stroke, you immediately do the same with whites. God forbid, if only all whites were the same as the 1% .

There is no white privilege. That is a racist notion from the left, purposed to divide us. It's called wealth privilege. It ALWAYS has been about wealth. In every civilization of our great ancient history. Those with the chips call the shots. Poverty has bad culture, no matter the color or race.

But the answer is not more division of demographics. Exacerbating the flames. The answer is within and not out there. The world will not get more morally just or productive if the roles reversed..

[Knoe Itawl]

You used a stereotype to refer to a group of people, while trying to urge them not to do so :roll:

In case you haven't noticed, I've been ignoring you as you have absolutely nothing intelligent to add. Now you officially go on the ignore list.

[DeuceWallaces]

Hate to break it to OP, but Europeans historically have gone through far more adversity than black Americans. It's not even really a comparison.

The plague that wiped out 30-50% of Europe, 900+ Years of jihadist invasion, occupation and enslavement, 2 world wars that killed more than 100 million people, etc.... Yet these people somehow seem to be the source of nearly every worthwhile thing of the last 500 years and are the most prosperous people in the history of the world and for some unknown reason are expected to share that prosperity with everyone else.

If they can manage to be as prosperous as they are through all of that, nobody else has an excuse as to why they aren't prosperous.

And yes, their culture is superior. That's the big difference maker in all of this. People are people. South Americans, Africans and middle easterners are just as capable as European people. Europeans aren't special. They aren't genetically destined for prosperity or something. The difference is culture.

Strong case to have your name edited into the original title/post.

[Heilige]

Hate to break it to OP, but Europeans historically have gone through far more adversity than black Americans. It's not even really a comparison.

The plague that wiped out 30-50% of Europe, 900+ Years of jihadist invasion, occupation and enslavement, 2 world wars that killed more than 100 million people, etc.... Yet these people somehow seem to be the source of nearly every worthwhile thing of the last 500 years and are the most prosperous people in the history of the world and for some unknown reason are expected to share that prosperity with everyone else.

If they can manage to be as prosperous as they are through all of that, nobody else has an excuse as to why they aren't prosperous.

And yes, their culture is superior. That's the big difference maker in all of this. People are people. South Americans, Africans and middle easterners are just as capable as European people. Europeans aren't special. They aren't genetically destined for prosperity or something. The difference is culture.


What are the characteristics of the culture of European people as opposed to the culture of South Americans, Africans, and middle easterners that allowed Europeans to prosper so much?

[NumberSix]

Strong case to have your name edited into the original title/post.
I've said nothing about race other than people are people. Call me a culture-ist if you want.

[Knoe Itawl]

Hate to break it to OP, but Europeans historically have gone through far more adversity than black Americans. It's not even really a comparison.

The plague that wiped out 30-50% of Europe, 900+ Years of jihadist invasion, occupation and enslavement, 2 world wars that killed more than 100 million people, etc.... Yet these people somehow seem to be the source of nearly every worthwhile thing of the last 500 years and are the most prosperous people in the history of the world and for some unknown reason are expected to share that prosperity with everyone else.

If they can manage to be as prosperous as they are through all of that, nobody else has an excuse as to why they aren't prosperous.

And yet, in a society they control (the richest in the history of the world), so many of their members are dying in middle age, where the rates are going down for others. :confusedshrug:

I told you why. You can choose to ignore it due to your desire to place whites above all others, but it is what it is.

Muslims, blacks, Mexicans, etc. aren't causing this. But my point was to appeal to my white brothers and here you go with the white supremacy shyt. Do you understand that unless something is drastically done, these numbers will continue to skyrocket? Do you care, or do you just care about which group is "better" than the other? Whites being "better" isn't stopping them from dropping in large numbers, despite being overwhelmingly in power.

Let it go my friend. I get it. You hold on to the whites are superior thing you've been indoctrinated with. But what good is it doing the people in this study?

[mehyaM24]

*sigh* It's a shame that no matter how well presented, a point will always fly over people's heads. I said nothing in my post that was racist. I also said I value all people. I also said that people (whites, blacks, etc)need to come together to find real solutions to these problems.

Yet all you got out of all of that was that I was being racist. It is incredible to me how often people just fly off the handle without displaying reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Truly amazing.

Instead of blathering nonsense, why don't you tell me exactly what you disagree with that I wrote.

lol @ this moron

posts this:

"White people kill themselves when the stock market fluctuates a few points. You think if the situation had been reversed and blacks held whites as slaves that they would be doing even as well as blacks are today? There’s no way. White kids from middle class backgrounds shoot up schools because they feel isolated (boo hoo). Imagine 400 years of oppression? Whites would’ve killed themselves off years ago – you know it’s true."

but then claims he is posting "facts" and is "not being racist". :oldlol: your lack of self-awareness couldn't be worse. like, you actually posted this with intent on not sounding like a so-called bigot, but actually came out looking racist. dilbert.

[DeuceWallaces]

I've said nothing about race other than people are people. Call me a culture-ist if you want.

You fit in with your dumbass opinions on culture, race, and history.

[GIF REACTION]

And yet, in a society they control (the richest in the history of the world), so many of their members are dying in middle age, where the rates are going down for others. :confusedshrug:

I told you why. You can choose to ignore it due to your desire to place whites above all others, but it is what it is.

Muslims, blacks, Mexicans, etc. aren't causing this. But my point was to appeal to my white brothers and here you go with the white supremacy shyt. Do you understand that unless something is drastically done, these numbers will continue to skyrocket? Do you care, or do you just care about which group is "better" than the other? Whites being "better" isn't stopping them from dropping in large numbers, despite being overwhelmingly in power.

Let it go my friend. I get it. You hold on to the whites are superior thing you've been indoctrinated with. But what good is it doing the people in this study?
Your are such a racist it's not even funny. Stop being so short-sighted... Statistics have MANY factors. How do you know it has nothing to do with other races? You don't. Because to an extent it does. You are segregating problems for whites, but then holding everyone accountable for others.

Stop being so ****ing short-sighted and accept humanities limitations as a species.

[GIF REACTION]

Let's wait til my bro Dresta comes in here and drops a metaphorical nuke in the name of freedom.

[KNOW1EDGE]

In case you haven't noticed, I've been ignoring you as you have absolutely nothing intelligent to add. Now you officially go on the ignore list.

God you are pathetic.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Europeans have to deal with much more sh!t than African-Americans. It's nto really an argument.

- Black Plague
- 900 years of jihadist rule


Let's try to prove your point mathematically shall we.

Working on a plantation breaking your back for 90-ish years (76-65) while erasing your cultural roots and adopting fake Christian names + Being a second class citizen for 200 years (well into the 60s) + Being born in the sh!ttiest dilapidated places (see ghettos) + a crazy self-destructive macho culture born from wrong + the sh!ttiest nutrition and lousiest education possible - (affirmative action and reverse racism)/(2015-1776)

VS


Normal Life + Bubonic Plague + Dhimmi Status as a Non-Muslim/(2015-711)

Whether or not you're right, just LOOK at what you wrote down.

PS. the Muslims were not a pure net negative like the above factors are no matter how you want to paint them. Rather be a vassal to the Sultan than a slave to cracka massa; that's for damn sure.

[Knoe Itawl]

Yo Knoe Itawl, are you a fellow Iron Maiden fan? I've noticed that you always rock Maiden avys, you used to have the cover of their Killers album, amirite?

I'm changing the subject because unfortunately I believe your attempts at changing those racists viewpoints are futile, dumbass gon' dumbass

Top 5 all time favorite musical acts. Love that song "Run to the Hills". Now that's some honest shyt. :D

[Patrick Chewing]

What did this guy say about me??


I'm too busy making money in the city and don't have time to read 20 paragraphs of what seems to be nonsense. OP needs to move out of his mother's basement and join the workforce.

I've made racist comments? Post the links to them. I'm bigoted? Yeah, so what? This thread is bigoted towards me. What's your point? I'm a white guy? Nope. I am a full-blooded Latino with rich bloodlines to the motherland.

What else??

[KNOW1EDGE]

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]lol @ this moron

posts this:

[B]"White people kill themselves when the stock market fluctuates a few points. You think if the situation had been reversed and blacks held whites as slaves that they would be doing even as well as blacks are today? There

[GIF REACTION]

Boiled down this thread is essentially

Whites are the problem, we are all one let's come together with this kumbyi ya shit, and provide no real perspective of reality or recorded history

[UK2K]

A. There may be minorities on here who are ashamed when racists giddily post crime statistics regarding blacks and other groups. This is a response to them, and their rhetoric. Never be ashamed at what white racists post. They are NOT better than you.


Statistics are racist?

Hmm.... since when? Or only when you decide they are?

I got to that far before I stopped.

You could post statistics about whites/Asians all you want, and I won't give a ****, cause it has nothing to do with me. I'm not part of the statistic, so I don't care.

But as a word of advice, if you don't like having your feelings hurt, I hear Mizzou has a new 'safe space' now where you don't have to listen to anything that makes you uncomfortable. Maybe you should go there?

[Knoe Itawl]

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]lol @ this moron

posts this:

[B]"White people kill themselves when the stock market fluctuates a few points. You think if the situation had been reversed and blacks held whites as slaves that they would be doing even as well as blacks are today? There

[Akrazotile]

*sigh* It's a shame that no matter how well presented, a point will always fly over people's heads. I said nothing in my post that was racist. I also said I value all people. I also said that people (whites, blacks, etc)need to come together to find real solutions to these problems.

Yet all you got out of all of that was that I was being racist. It is incredible to me how often people just fly off the handle without displaying reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Truly amazing.

Instead of blathering nonsense, why don't you tell me exactly what you disagree with that I wrote.


I didn't read any of your post but I can GUARANTEE that if someone used the equivalent rhetoric, but to make a point opposite yours, you'd SHRIEK racism. I constantly make points too sophisticated for you, and that's EXACTLY what happens.

I'm sorry you're insecure about racial issues. It's not my problem doe bro. I have other stuff to concern myself with.

[BasedTom]

We're living in a modern day dystopia, straight out of Fahrenheit 451 and other books of that time...an empty souless world where more of the population is on some sort of pharmaceutical drugs, caught up in the rat race, etc etc. There is no more wonder or joy, nor sense of community nor worthy causes to align yourself with...only a barrage of advertisements and marketing at work hammering home the message that you as a person are defined by your material possessions.

but those problems aren't a monolithic thing affecting all of the humanity's population today. Think of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs...before European thinkers were writing about despair, existentialism, nihilism, they had to possess the relative comfort to be able to focus on these thoughts instead of "shit how am I going to feed myself." "am I going to be able to survive the winter" And as difficult it can be to imagine from where we are standing, there are a ton of people still living through this in some way. And these people today are usually nonwhite, lack access to education or modern luxuries, and breed like rabbits. It isn't categorically a racial thing, as among white populations in history we have seen this happen, same with mass immigration.

I don't think the solution is to mass import these africans and asians into our own countries. I say this because they're far less exposed to our concepts of western civilisation, liberty, etc...and have the potential of flat out overrunning the country. Instead of elevating the status of their people, unfortunately we only suceed in bringing in the problems of their homelands into an ostensibly civilised country which never really had any obligation to do so. It doesn't help when you have extremist lunatics that openly profess this agenda of conquering and assaulting us in our own countries.

[DeuceWallaces]

What did this guy say about me??


I'm too busy making money in the city and don't have time to read 20 paragraphs of what seems to be nonsense. OP needs to move out of his mother's basement and join the workforce.

I've made racist comments? Post the links to them. I'm bigoted? Yeah, so what? This thread is bigoted towards me. What's your point? I'm a white guy? Nope. I am a full-blooded Latino with rich bloodlines to the motherland.

What else??

Lol, you spent all night trying to figure out if your 3rd shift job at Wal-Mart could afford you a monthly phone plan. :lol

[Knoe Itawl]

Statistics are racist?

Hmm.... since when? Or only when you decide they are?

I got to that far before I stopped.

You could post statistics about whites/Asians all you want, and I won't give a ****, cause it has nothing to do with me. I'm not part of the statistic, so I don't care.

But as a word of advice, if you don't like having your feelings hurt, I hear Mizzou has a new 'safe space' now where you don't have to listen to anything that makes you uncomfortable. Maybe you should go there?

Wow, you really are stupid. Did I say statistics were racists? I said that racists love to post certain statistics.

And you read the whole thing. It just didn't jibe with your worldview so you chose to ignore the rest.

However, the point all of the ones attacking me are missing is this: Your own people are dying. I told you why, and it has nothing to do with gangs in chicago, Mexicans, gays, or whoever else?

Are you going to do something about it, or hold on to your white supremacy doctrine? I guess some of you are too attached to it. Not surprising, of course.

[GIF REACTION]

Wow, you really are stupid. Did I say statistics were racists? I said that racists love to post certain statistics.

And you read the whole thing. It just didn't jibe with your worldview so you chose to ignore the rest.

However, the point all of the ones attacking me are missing is this: Your own people are dying. I told you why, and it has nothing to do with gangs in chicago, Mexicans, gays, or whoever else?

Are you going to do something about it, or hold on to your white supremacy doctrine? I guess some of you are too attached to it. Not surprising, of course.
Holy shit you are so ****ing short sighted and stupid it's not even funny. Are you going to just keep ignoring me? Tell me how you came to this absolute?

Jesus ****ing christ

[Knoe Itawl]

I didn't read any of your post but I can GUARANTEE that if someone used the equivalent rhetoric, but to make a point opposite yours, you'd SHRIEK racism. I constantly make points too sophisticated for you, and that's EXACTLY what happens.

I'm sorry you're insecure about racial issues. It's not my problem doe bro. I have other stuff to concern myself with.

Of course not. I even said at the beginning I didn't expect you to. You're too indoctrinated into your feelings of superiority.

Sad thing is that this has nothing to do with me, or my "insecurity about racial issues" and everything to do with what's happening to your own people that you choose to ignore to focus on black crime. Sad.

[NumberSix]

What are the characteristics of the culture of European people as opposed to the culture of South Americans, Africans, and middle easterners that allowed Europeans to prosper so much?
More than anything, the culture of individualism. It's what allows people to pursue their own interests. Pretty much every significant advancement has come from a small amount of people, not some large centrally planned collective.

NorthWestern Europeans in particular (and by extension America) created the environment that allows those few exceptional people to obsessively pursue an individual goal. These are the groundbreakers. And when they break new ground, new industries are created and other people who aren't groundbreakers can also prosper by working jobs in these new industries. And their productivity creates more prosperity which in turn gives them purchasing power, which gives others motivation to create and sell things.

That's the wealth. Not the currency. It's the stuff we make. The houses, the food, the cloths, the transportation, etc... Money is only as valuable as what you can buy with it. You can dump a bunch of money into an isolated mud hut village if you want. It's useless. There's nothing to buy and nothing to sell. It's only purpose is a conduit for the things we make and trade. If you don't make anything, theres nothing to trade.

Productivity = prosperity. If you don't produce anything, you have nothing to trade. You don't have to be an inventor. You can put your energy towards producing someone else's product, for which you will be paid and thus have something to trade.

The fewer of us that invent things of value, the fewer jobs exist to produce those things of value. Without an environment that freely allows individuals to pursue individual interests, the fewer things of value there will be to create and fewer jobs, less productivity, less to trade and less to trade for. No prosperity.

[Knoe Itawl]

Holy shit you are so ****ing short sighted and stupid it's not even funny. Are you going to just keep ignoring me? Tell me how you came to this absolute?

Jesus ****ing christ

Calm down my white brother. I told you that I'm all about mending fences and working together. However, it's not my fault you can't read. I explained this in the OP. Now go back and read it again OK now sonny. Maybe you'll get more out of it the second time other than "Duh, he's being racist!!"

[DeuceWallaces]

You should have known this would turn out poorly now that Jeff is running ********** II.

[GIF REACTION]

Calm down my white brother. I told you that I'm all about mending fences and working together. However, it's not my fault you can't read. I explained this in the OP. Now go back and read it again OK now sonny. Maybe you'll get more out of it the second time other than "Duh, he's being racist!!"
No, please. Try and explain it yourself

Because it's abundantly clear you jumped on a piece of research that you do not understand, and came to your own racist conclusions.

You are no better than the right in this regard. So please stop playing the moral high ground. You have no sight beyond the issue of race.

[West-Side]

There has been many minorities that have flourished in this world on their own. What they didn't do? Is complain about all the inequalities that exist in their world. They worked harder than the white man and got ahead in this world. These are the people that the media should broadcast on the news every day. Not the violence, hate-crimes and statistics. All the media does is exploit the WEAK & ANGRY. I don't feel sorry for any minority that feels victim. Those are usually the people that sell drugs, get in fights and murder people. It's the truth. White people fall into that category as well. However, I feel because blacks and other minorities are in fact deemed minorities they feel entitled. They look for hand outs and lash out at the world.

My point is this; I agree that the way the world works is that minorities are in fact behind the times. They don't have the same opportunities, but there are A LOT of people who don't care. They work hard and create long-term goals for themselves. They are respectful to everyone and don't feel entitled to anything. There are MANY minorities like that, who have flourished in this world by working hard. Racism is created by the IGNORANT and the LAZY, who feel entitled.

I have a couple of really close colleagues who are African American and I respect them a hell of a lot more than I do of most white people. Why? Because they work hard and don't complain whenever they don't get a job by a white recruiter. Heck, I was surprised when Sean didn't get a job at the bank with his resume. I even thought it was because of his skin color. He told me not to assume and other opportunities will be available. He just got a great job (even better than the one he got rejected from) and is doing great things.

Those are the people I truly respect, because MENTALLY they are strong and they don't let the ignorance and hatred of others get in their way of accomplishing things.

If more minorities had that mentality, racism would evaporate into thin air.
But all the idiots keep allowing the media to divide us, and the result is?!


THIS RETARDED THREAD.

[mehyaM24]

I always take it that when people ignore a large part of what you wrote, that they either agree with the rest, or they have no reply. Which is it?

Also, I just told the TRUTH.

A. Whites commit suicide at higher rates than other groups despite holding the majority of wealth/power in this country - truth. Much of the time it is indeed from financial problems. It's an old cliche about Wall Street types jumping off buildings because of stock losses
B. Middle class white boys shoot up schools because they feel "isolated" - truth
C. Black folks do not commit suicide at the same rate, despite their history in this country - truth

:confusedshrug:

if i were to counter everything in your post, i would be here writing essays, all day, correcting your ignorance. i highlighted the most interesting YET silliest part of your post - the one where you tried to come off as objective, but ended up outing yourself as a racist? yes - that one.

as for your explanation:

whites are the majority in the states, the same reason they are the biggest recipients of welfare.

now, without deflecting and blaming somebody else, please tell us why blacks, despite NOT being the majority, lead everybody in this country via murder stats?

thanks in advance.

[Akrazotile]

Of course not. I even said at the beginning I didn't expect you to. You're too indoctrinated into your feelings of superiority.

Sad thing is that this has nothing to do with me, or my "insecurity about racial issues" and everything to do with what's happening to your own people that you choose to ignore to focus on black crime. Sad.


Trust me, I'm plenty concerned with that. It certainly doesn't require a lecture from you to get my mind working on it.

[Knoe Itawl]

if i were to counter everything in your post, i would be here writing essays, all day, correcting your ignorance. i highlighted the most interesting YET most ignorant part of your post - the one where you tried to come off as objective, but ended up outing yourself as a racist? yes - that one.

as for your explanation:

whites are the majority in the states, the same reason they are the biggest recipients on welfare.

now, without deflecting and blaming somebody else, please tell us why blacks, despite NOT being the majority, lead everybody in this country via murder stats?

thanks in advance.

Oh, my white brother. You see you've fallen victim to the same thing I outlined in the OP. It always comes back to black crime to you. Please tell me why middle aged white people are dying in the numbers they are, when they control most of the wealth and power in this country. I told you my feelings on why in the OP. If you disagree please tell me why. Thanks in advance.

By the way, you're much more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person. You're more likely kill yourself as a white person than be killed by a black person. Yet you guys always jack off about black crime as opposed to worrying about your own culture.. I don't get it. Actually I DO get it. You've been brainwashed into feeling superior to other groups simply because of skin color.

[BasedTom]

More than anything, the culture of individualism. It's what allows people to pursue their own interests. Pretty much every significant advancement has come from a small amount of people, not some large centrally planned collective.

NorthWestern Europeans in particular (and by extension America) created the environment that allows those few exceptional people to obsessively pursue an individual goal. These are the groundbreakers. And when they break new ground, new industries are created and other people who aren't groundbreakers can also prosper by working jobs in these new industries. And their productivity creates more prosperity which in turn gives them purchasing power, which gives others motivation to create and sell things.

That's the wealth. Not the currency. It's the stuff we make. The houses, the food, the cloths, the transportation, etc... Money is only as valuable as what you can buy with it. You can dump a bunch of money into an isolated mud hut village if you want. It's useless. There's nothing to buy and nothing to sell. It's only purpose is a conduit for the things we make and trade. If you don't make anything, theres nothing to trade.

Productivity = prosperity. If you don't produce anything, you have nothing to trade. You don't have to be an inventor. You can put your energy towards producing someone else's product, for which you will be paid and thus have something to trade.

The fewer of us that invent things of value, the fewer jobs exist to produce those things of value. Without an environment that freely allows individuals to pursue individual interests, the fewer things of value there will be to create and fewer jobs, less productivity, less to trade and less to trade for. No prosperity.
Collectivism gave us the 2008 beijing olympics opening ceremony :confusedshrug:

rugged american individualism gives us this:

http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/miley.cyrus-twerk.jpg

[fiddy]

fiddy are you tryna be poetic with your "Where I Reside" under Location? :roll:

Foh
:facepalm


In case you haven't noticed, I've been ignoring you as you have absolutely nothing intelligent to add. Now you officially go on the ignore list.
Not my problem, you dont understand basic principles of cognition. I wouldnt waste my time or effort for individuals like you, i dont even consider you a human being anymore, you are nothing more than a brainwashed humanoid. The worst part is that you deluded yourself into thinking that your opinion has value. lmao

[GIF REACTION]

No you have no ****ing clue about how to interpret research

This is easily the most racist post in awhile, mainly because you're being 100% serious.

[UK2K]

I didn't read any of your post but I can GUARANTEE that if someone used the equivalent rhetoric, but to make a point opposite yours, you'd SHRIEK racism. I constantly make points too sophisticated for you, and that's EXACTLY what happens.

I'm sorry you're insecure about racial issues. It's not my problem doe bro. I have other stuff to concern myself with.

Here, I'll try.

[QUOTE]You see they

[UK2K]

Oh, my white brother. You see you've fallen victim to the same thing I outlined in the OP. It always comes back to black crime to you. Please tell me why middle aged white people are dying in the numbers they are, when they control most of the wealth and power in this country. I told you my feelings on why in the OP. If you disagree please tell me why. Thanks in advance.

By the way, you're much more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person. You're more likely kill yourself as a white person than be killed by a black person. Yet you guys always jack off about black crime as opposed to worrying about your own culture.. I don't get it. Actually I DO get it. You've been brainwashed into feeling superior to other groups simply because of skin color.

The second phrase you bolded said 'WITHOUT DEFLECTING'

You made it one sentence before deflecting. Congrats.

[mehyaM24]

More than anything, the culture of individualism. It's what allows people to pursue their own interests. Pretty much every significant advancement has come from a small amount of people, not some large centrally planned collective.

NorthWestern Europeans in particular (and by extension America) created the environment that allows those few exceptional people to obsessively pursue an individual goal. These are the groundbreakers. And when they break new ground, new industries are created and other people who aren't groundbreakers can also prosper by working jobs in these new industries. And their productivity creates more prosperity which in turn gives them purchasing power, which gives others motivation to create and sell things.

That's the wealth. Not the currency. It's the stuff we make. The houses, the food, the cloths, the transportation, etc... Money is only as valuable as what you can buy with it. You can dump a bunch of money into an isolated mud hut village if you want. It's useless. There's nothing to buy and nothing to sell. It's only purpose is a conduit for the things we make and trade. If you don't make anything, theres nothing to trade.

Productivity = prosperity. If you don't produce anything, you have nothing to trade. You don't have to be an inventor. You can put your energy towards producing someone else's product, for which you will be paid and thus have something to trade.

The fewer of us that invent things of value, the fewer jobs exist to produce those things of value. Without an environment that freely allows individuals to pursue individual interests, the fewer things of value there will be to create and fewer jobs, less productivity, less to trade and less to trade for. No prosperity.

great post dude.

it's not an issue of race as much as it is culture. if it was race only, wouldn't police be beating and killing asians just as much? however, asian culture does not embrace & idolize drug dealing, gang membership, the mistreatment of women, or similar crime. the vast majority of whites/latinos are very accepting of all races, so long as the individual carries oneself in a respectable manner.

if i see a person well dressed, showing strong family values and work ethic, i treat them with a high level of respect, regardless of race - however, if i see a person dressed as a thug, disrespecting others, being confrontational with authority, and trying to "intimidate" me, i'm going to treat them as such, again regardless of color.

this is common sense at play.

idiots like the op need to stop making it an issue of color, and realize it is an issue of character and repeated behaviors inherent in the culture.

stop deflecting and playing the blame game. stop promoting crime and domestic abuse. stop promoting and committing the vast majority of gang and violent crimes - and then people will treat you differently.

[NumberSix]

And yet, in a society they control (the richest in the history of the world), so many of their members are dying in middle age, where the rates are going down for others. :confusedshrug:

I told you why. You can choose to ignore it due to your desire to place whites above all others, but it is what it is.

Muslims, blacks, Mexicans, etc. aren't causing this. But my point was to appeal to my white brothers and here you go with the white supremacy shyt. Do you understand that unless something is drastically done, these numbers will continue to skyrocket? Do you care, or do you just care about which group is "better" than the other? Whites being "better" isn't stopping them from dropping in large numbers, despite being overwhelmingly in power.

Let it go my friend. I get it. You hold on to the whites are superior thing you've been indoctrinated with. But what good is it doing the people in this study?
I said literally nothing about race.

[Knoe Itawl]

Trust me, I'm plenty concerned with that. It certainly doesn't require a lecture from you to get my mind working on it.

Great. The first step is to let go of your white supremacist attitudes. At this point, it's not helping. In fact, as I explain in the OP, it's these very same attitudes that are contributing to CAUSING these ills. It's not those ghetto blacks you've been trained to look down on. It's those in power that have gutted the white middle class and it's KILLING YOU.

The only way this will change is if we find some way to reverse it. For the sake of your family, friends, peers etc. For God's sake man. Wake up!!!

[mehyaM24]

Oh, my white brother. You see you've fallen victim to the same thing I outlined in the OP. It always comes back to black crime to you. Please tell me why middle aged white people are dying in the numbers they are, when they control most of the wealth and power in this country. I told you my feelings on why in the OP. If you disagree please tell me why. Thanks in advance.

By the way, you're much more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person. You're more likely kill yourself as a white person than be killed by a black person. Yet you guys always jack off about black crime as opposed to worrying about your own culture.. I don't get it. Actually I DO get it. You've been brainwashed into feeling superior to other groups simply because of skin color.

i'm not white - but right on cue, you're deflecting again.

please answer my question without deflecting.

thanks in advance.

[fiddy]

Great. The first step is to let go of your white supremacist attitudes. At this point, it's not helping. In fact, as I explain in the OP, it's these very same attitudes that are contributing to CAUSING these ills. It's not those ghetto blacks you've been trained to look down on. It's those in power that have gutted the white middle class and it's KILLING YOU.

The only way this will change is if we find some way to reverse it. For the sake of your family, friends, peers etc. For God's sake man. Wake up!!!
Cringe worthy material :roll:

[Akrazotile]

http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/miley.cyrus-twerk.jpg


:roll: :facepalm

Still probably the single lowest point in American culture.

[fiddy]

:roll: :facepalm

Still probably the single lowest point in American culture.
There've been plenty like that one in the last couple of years

[Akrazotile]

There've been plenty like that one in the last couple of years


No, I agree. I'm saying, we've def hit all time lows in mainstream arts and entertainment.


"And it's all because of those god damned k1kes and n1ggers. But don't worry! I'm not bein racist. Just pointing out how racist THOSE groups are" :blah :facepalm

[Knoe Itawl]

The second phrase you bolded said 'WITHOUT DEFLECTING'

You made it one sentence before deflecting. Congrats.

So nothing then. Congrats. My white brother, you need to worry about that study. You need to be more afraid of your white brothers since STATISTICALLY you're far more likely to be killed by your own. More likely to kill yourself. Why so worried about blacks.:confusedshrug:

[BasedTom]

There has been many minorities that have flourished in this world on their own. What they didn't do? Is complain about all the inequalities that exist in their world. They worked harder than the white man and got ahead in this world. These are the people that the media should broadcast on the news every day. Not the violence, hate-crimes and statistics. All the media does is exploit the WEAK & ANGRY. I don't feel sorry for any minority that feels victim. Those are usually the people that sell drugs, get in fights and murder people. It's the truth. White people fall into that category as well. However, I feel because blacks and other minorities are in fact deemed minorities they feel entitled. They look for hand outs and lash out at the world.

My point is this; I agree that the way the world works is that minorities are in fact behind the times. They don't have the same opportunities, but there are A LOT of people who don't care. They work hard and create long-term goals for themselves. They are respectful to everyone and don't feel entitled to anything. There are MANY minorities like that, who have flourished in this world by working hard. Racism is created by the IGNORANT and the LAZY, who feel entitled.

I have a couple of really close colleagues who are African American and I respect them a hell of a lot more than I do of most white people. Why? Because they work hard and don't complain whenever they don't get a job by a white recruiter. Heck, I was surprised when Sean didn't get a job at the bank with his resume. I even thought it was because of his skin color. He told me not to assume and other opportunities will be available. He just got a great job (even better than the one he got rejected from) and is doing great things.

Those are the people I truly respect, because MENTALLY they are strong and they don't let the ignorance and hatred of others get in their way of accomplishing things.

If more minorities had that mentality, racism would evaporate into thin air.
But all the idiots keep allowing the media to divide us, and the result is?!


THIS RETARDED THREAD.
How exactly can you guarantee this? I think your friend has the more constructive attitude.

And it goes both ways really, you might even make the case that it's a natural thing to feel at times, a common trap to fall into. Not just the example of "You just didn't give me the job because I'm black and you're a racist POS" but also the everyday life examples of "Those chinese restaurant waitresses snickering in their language are talking mad shit" or "This black dude is just taking his time with me, doesn't give a fck about his job...they do that you know, thinking that they're getting back at whitey!"

[fiddy]

So nothing then. Congrats. My white brother, you need to worry about that study. You need to be more afraid of your white brothers since STATISTICALLY you're far more likely to be killed by your own. More likely to kill yourself. Why so worried about blacks.:confusedshrug:
That fool is either trolling or retarded

[Akrazotile]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C-Hnce0Kh6U/TeSB5TOhRbI/AAAAAAAACBw/hsohVVDXK2Y/s640/black-art-man-woman-chisel.jpg


Break the shackles, OP. Break those shackles of bondage and the ties that bind. Return your peoples to all the magnificent glory they had achieved back in Mother Africa. Raise your first with pride, my brother!

[West-Side]

How exactly can you guarantee this? I think your friend has the more constructive attitude.

And it goes both ways really, you might even make the case that it's a natural thing to feel at times, a common trap to fall into. Not just the example of "You just didn't give me the job because I'm black and you're a racist POS" but also the everyday life examples of "Those chinese restaurant waitresses snickering in their language are talking mad shit" or "This black dude is just taking his time with me, doesn't give a fck about his job...they do that you know, thinking that they're getting back at whitey!"

Listen very carefully you ignorant morons.

Next time a Chinese owner grabs a cloth and wipes down a piece of merchandise that your black hands touched, smile and be kind. Tell her to have a nice day and walk away. Don't loss your energy over ignorant people.

That is the mentality that my colleague has, and I respect him for that. That is WHY he is ahead in life. That is why he will be making great money. He is AFRICAN AMERICAN but he is SMARTER than the average racist, as we see in this very thread.

You people are an embarrassment to humanity, honestly.
The only way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.

Unfortunately too much ignorance is in this world for that to ever be accomplished.

[Knoe Itawl]

i'm not white - but right on cue, you're deflecting again.

please answer my question without deflecting.

thanks in advance.

Let me be clear about something. I'm not going to engage people who have just decided to ignore everything I wrote in the OP, yet want to engage me about other things. You try writing down everything you disagree with that I wrote in my initial post, and then I'll get back to you on other stuff.

[fiddy]

Let me be clear about something. I'm not going to engage people who have just decided to ignore everything I wrote in the OP, yet want to engage me about other things. You try writing down everything you disagree with that I wrote in my initial post, and then I'll get back to you on other stuff.
Get a brain transplantation, might fix the issue :confusedshrug:

[mehyaM24]

So nothing then. Congrats. My white brother, you need to worry about that study. You need to be more afraid of your white brothers since STATISTICALLY you're far more likely to be killed by your own. More likely to kill yourself. Why so worried about blacks.:confusedshrug:

right.

and you're more likely to be killed in a car accident than by airplane.

doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautious every time you step onto a plane - especially with what's going on around the world atm.


Let me be clear about something. I'm not going to engage people who have just decided to ignore everything I wrote in the OP, yet want to engage me about other things. You try writing down everything you disagree with that I wrote in my initial post, and then I'll get back to you on other stuff.

i quoted quite a bit of your post, and even bolded it for you. :confusedshrug:

let me when you're ready to engage in a REAL debate. this is completely one sided (in my favor).

[West-Side]

So nothing then. Congrats. My white brother, you need to worry about that study. You need to be more afraid of your white brothers since STATISTICALLY you're far more likely to be killed by your own. More likely to kill yourself. Why so worried about blacks.:confusedshrug:

Just to play devil's advocate.
Is that still true relative to population?

Let me explain;

You go to jail; you're locked up with 150 white criminals and 5 black criminals. 75% of the time you will be killed by a white criminal and 25% of the time you will be killed by the black criminal

Who is more threatening if you are approached by a random white criminal and a random black criminal?

[Knoe Itawl]

right.

and you're more likely to be killed in a car accident than by plane.

doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautious every time you step onto a plane - especially with what's going on around the world atm.

Of course, but people like UK and other racists are more concerned with the people that STATISTICALLY are far less likely to harm them then the ones that are more likely. They're far less concerned with suicide, which they're also likely to die from at their own hands than black people.

WHY?:confusedshrug:

[Knoe Itawl]

Just to play devil's advocate.
Is that still true relative to population?

Let me explain;

You go to jail; you're locked up with 150 white criminals and 5 black criminals. 75% of the time you will be killed by a white criminal and 25% of the time you will be killed by the black criminal

Who is more threatening if you are approached by a random white criminal and a random black criminal?

It doesn't matter. Whites are killed by their own EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE TIME. Do you know how high a figure that is? Dying from a black person is far down on the list.

Yet all they do is worry about blacks. WHY???:confusedshrug:

[fiddy]

Of course, but people like UK and other racists are more concerned with the people that STATISTICALLY are far less likely to harm them then the ones that are more likely. They're far less concerned with suicide, which they're also likely to die from at their own hands than black people.

WHY?:confusedshrug:
You have no business questioning the mentality of people born and raised in monocultural society you dumb fuсk

[BasedTom]

Listen very carefully you ignorant morons.

Next time a Chinese owner grabs a cloth and wipes down a piece of merchandise that your black hands touched, smile and be kind. Tell her to have a nice day and walk away. Don't loss your energy over ignorant people.

That is the mentality that my colleague has, and I respect him for that. That is WHY he is ahead in life. That is why he will be making great money. He is AFRICAN AMERICAN but he is SMARTER than the average racist, as we see in this very thread.

You people are an embarrassment to humanity, honestly.
The only way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.

Unfortunately too much ignorance is in this world for that to ever be accomplished.
???

I was praising your friend for his mindset. You're better off focusing on what you control, improving yourself every day instead of worrying about what x,y, and z or that "the man" or whatever is in the way. In the highlighted quotes I was pointing out that you yourself were falling into this trap...There's no way you could automatically guarantee that; it's irrational to have this rule over you :lol

dunno how you get out of it that I'm a racist embarrassment to humanity :oldlol:

[West-Side]

???

I was praising your friend for his mindset. You're better off focusing on what you control, improving yourself every day instead of worrying about what x,y, and z or that "the man" or whatever is in the way. In the highlighted quotes I was pointing out that you yourself were falling into this trap...There's no way you could automatically guarantee that; it's irrational to have this rule over you :lol

dunno how you get out of it that I'm a racist embarrassment to humanity :oldlol:

Exactly, that's the only way to eliminate racism.
Bro, I didn't include you in that group.

[Heilige]

The only way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.


SO the Klan would seize to exist if everyone did this?

What about racists that are threatened by people that achieve great success in life?

[Patrick Chewing]

Lol, you spent all night trying to figure out if your 3rd shift job at Wal-Mart could afford you a monthly phone plan. :lol


Please, son. You're in your late 30's and still in school. Get your shit together and get a real job and stop dreaming of your glory days as a pimple-faced loner working late nights at Blockbuster.

[mehyaM24]

Of course, but people like UK and other racists are more concerned with the people that STATISTICALLY are far less likely to harm them then the ones that are more likely. They're far less concerned with suicide, which they're also likely to die from at their own hands than black people.

WHY?:confusedshrug:

if we're still going by your premise (statistics), why would whites feel endangerment...from others killing themselves?

this is like the black community having 93 percent of their murder victims being killed by other blacks - and if that's a fact, why only protest/riot over the remaining 7%?

hmmm.

[DeuceWallaces]

Please, son. You're in your late 30's and still in school. Get your shit together and get a real job and stop dreaming of your glory days as a pimple-faced loner working late nights at Blockbuster.

Who said I was in school? Anyway, you're clearly in a dead-end shit job mad that immigrants can stock shelves just as well as you can.

Just stick to your employee discount on Straight Talk Wireless; this way your kids can still have Christmas.

[TonyMontana]

I kind of find it humorous how whites are always the ones to be portrayed as "racist" or "bigot".

If you visit any messageboard that is majority of black users (worldstarhiphop, the coli, probably some sneaker/rap stuff out there) the "off topic" sections are pretty much the black people versions of st0rmfront.

My point is for whites, there actually has to be a website whose purpose is "white pride" or whatever, but the opposite "black pride" is a given on any site that is majority black.

Yet they are not painted as racist. Seems to be double standards, yes?

The following two paragraphs I want to rebuttal because they were the most ridiculous of the entire post.



I’m asking you my racist white brothers to wake up. Your culture isn’t superior. If it was, you wouldn’t be dying in middle age at alarming rates, while the same isn’t happening to other groups AS AS A RESULT OF YOUR OWN HUBRIS. Remember, whites have control of the vast majority of wealth and power in this country. That they would allow for conditions that are killing so much of their own isn’t superiority, it’s naked greed and excess. Trump is popular amongst ignorant whites because of the culmination of anger at other rich whites – only they don’t’ understand that so channel the hatred towards “others”. If you are to survive, and this country isn’t to go the way of Rome, we need to work together to fight the real enemy – the oligarchy who hates you as much as me. I know it’s hard because you’ve been bred to believe that you’re better than other people purely because of your skin color. But this delusion, I repeat IS KILLING YOU. These death rates are only going to get worse if things continue unchanged.


This assumption is completely ignorant of the jewish element. Many nonwhites think jews are the same as white people, but jews absolutely see them self as a different group entirely.

And if /western culture wasn't superior, why does everyone want to come to western countries? Particularly the areas in these countries that are white.

If every white person moved to a settlement on the moon, you can guarantee the nonwhite people would be doing everything in their power to follow.


And whites don’t do well with adversity. White people commit suicide at rates much higher than other groups, and as shown it’s getting worse. This is while benefitting from white priviledge!! You claim blacks use slavery as an “excuse” for the present dysfunction in many black communities but come on. Be honest for just a second. White people kill themselves when the stock market fluctuates a few points. You think if the situation had been reversed and blacks held whites as slaves that they would be doing even as well as blacks are today? There’s no way. White kids from middle class backgrounds shoot up schools because they feel isolated (boo hoo). Imagine 400 years of oppression? Whites would’ve killed themselves off years ago – you know it’s true.


believe it or not blacks actually did have whites as slaves. In fact blacks still have other blacks as slaves in Africa at this moment right now. But I guess bitching about old ladies holding their purse extra tight when walking by is a bigger issue for the black race rather than advocating for the rights of people in Africa who are actually oppressed.. But I guess it doesn't matter since those oppressers are the same race, right?

Suicide and intelligence have a high coorelation to go hand in hand. You will never see a reported case of a wild animal committing suicide for instance. Life is becoming increasingly less enjoyable, tougher for EVERYONE as the middle class evaporates and the wealth between the "oligarchs" and the rest of the people gets farther and farther every day.

Every facet of life is going downwards. it's just that more whites realize this. There is also more pressure on whites to perform at a high level. this generation is the first generation in the United States history to be less "successful" than their father.

[NumberSix]

SO the Klan would seize to exist if everyone did this?

What about racists that are threatened by people that achieve great success in life?
The klan? The fcuking klan? :wtf:

Could you think of something a little more relevant, like maybe racist sharks or people who smash glass bottles on the ground that might cut people's feet?

[Patrick Chewing]

People of ISH. Can someone please assist me with this thread. I have a reputation on ISH. I have a reputation as a straight-shooter here on ISH.

I cannot have my reputation tarnished by some self-loathing Left-Wing nut who hides behind his local library's keyboard to make these false accusations of me and some of my peers on this site.

Someone please find and link to this thread the times where I have made racist comments. Otherwise, I DEMAND that this user be banned for libel and slander.

We cannot have this is in a free and open society. We must be responsible with our words and accusations. History has shown that many an innocent people have been unjustly accused and convicted of doing nothing at all. That is how dangerous it is to make up lies about someone you do not agree with and spread these false lies like a wildfire spreads through Southern California. In some countries you can get locked up for such irresponsibility. And in some countries you can be hanged!

All I'm asking is that this user be BANNED and his address be given to me personally so that I can have my attorney's issue him a summons based on how the rest of the day goes for me.

[Heilige]

I kind of find it humorous how whites are always the ones to be portrayed as "racist" or "bigot".

If you visit any messageboard that is majority of black users (worldstarhiphop, the coli, probably some sneaker/rap stuff out there) the "off topic" sections are pretty much the black people versions of st0rmfront.

My point is for whites, there actually has to be a website whose purpose is "white pride" or whatever, but the opposite "black pride" is a given on any site that is majority black.

Yet they are not painted as racist. Seems to be double standards, yes?

The following two paragraphs I want to rebuttal because they were the most ridiculous of the entire post.



This assumption is completely ignorant of the jewish element. Many nonwhites think jews are the same as white people, but jews absolutely see them self as a different group entirely.

And if /western culture wasn't superior, why does everyone want to come to western countries? Particularly the areas in these countries that are white.

If every white person moved to a settlement on the moon, you can guarantee the nonwhite people would be doing everything in their power to follow.



believe it or not blacks actually did have whites as slaves. In fact blacks still have other blacks as slaves in Africa at this moment right now. But I guess bitching about old ladies holding their purse extra tight when walking by is a bigger issue for the black race rather than advocating for the rights of people in Africa who are actually oppressed.. But I guess it doesn't matter since those oppressers are the same race, right?

Suicide and intelligence have a high coorelation to go hand in hand. You will never see a reported case of a wild animal committing suicide for instance. Life is becoming increasingly less enjoyable, tougher for EVERYONE as the middle class evaporates and the wealth between the "oligarchs" and the rest of the people gets farther and farther every day.

Every facet of life is going downwards. it's just that more whites realize this. There is also more pressure on whites to perform at a high level. this generation is the first generation in the United States history to be less "successful" than their father.



Good points TonyMontana! :cheers:

On an unrelated thought, can you elaborate on what you meant on your thoughts regarding the afterlife? In another thread you mentioned when you die you will end up being reincarnated if you go to the light. You mentioned something else as well.

[Heilige]

The klan? The fcuking klan? :wtf:

Could you think of something a little more relevant, like maybe racist sharks or people who smash glass bottles on the ground that might cut people's feet?


Fair enough. My point still stands though. He said the way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.

If all black people did that do you think racism would just go away?

I don't think it would. If black people became very successful on a collective level I believe racists would be insecure/threatened by that.

[NumberSix]

Fair enough. My point still stands though. He said the way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.

If all black people did that do you think racism would just go away?

I don't think it would. If black people became very successful on a collective level I believe racists would be insecure/threatened by that.
Of course not.

We don't live in a world where we can control other people's thoughts. People think different things and come to different conclusions. Some people will come to the conclusion that they just don't like some groups of people. Trying to make there be no more racist is like trying to make there be no gays or no people who like mushrooms.

[TonyMontana]

Fair enough. My point still stands though. He said the way to stop racism is to stop blaming other people for your struggles and to stop pointing the finger.

If all black people did that do you think racism would just go away?

I don't think it would. If black people became very successful on a collective level I believe racists would be insecure/threatened by that.

actual racism(by white people) is almost nonexistant today. The extent of it is teens on xbox live calling people n***ers :roll:

Racism is something that is solely perpetuated by the media to create strife and conflict. "trayvon martin". They also soak the idea into black peoples minds that every cop/white person wants to kill them. Cops only bother them because they are committing crime in the first place! If your just minding your business and actually not causing trouble as a black, you have absolutely nothing to worry about from a cop.

If the media was rebranded completely and the power of it taken away from a few certain people I think "racism" wouldn't be a thing anymore.

i pme you about your other question.

[ArbitraryWater]

You have no business questioning the mentality of people born and raised in monocultural society you dumb fuсk

You know you look pretty worthless in all these threads not being able to speak your mind without profanity? :oldlol:

For once fiddy, I know you can.. try it. The anger inside you eating you up.

[fiddy]

You know you look pretty worthless in all these threads not being able to speak your mind without profanity? :oldlol:

For once fiddy, I know you can.. try it. The anger inside you eating you up.
Your perception is worthless, fuсkboy

[poido123]

Next we will be fighting a war with these PC leftie liberalists with their textbooks and world theories from the comfort of their privileged socio economic society...



Oh wait :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Wow, you really are stupid. Did I say statistics were racists? I said that racists love to post certain statistics.

And you read the whole thing. It just didn't jibe with your worldview so you chose to ignore the rest.

However, the point all of the ones attacking me are missing is this: Your own people are dying. I told you why, and it has nothing to do with gangs in chicago, Mexicans, gays, or whoever else?

Are you going to do something about it, or hold on to your white supremacy doctrine? I guess some of you are too attached to it. Not surprising, of course.
But the average life expectancy for whites in America is higher than blacks. So... are you going to do something about it?

So if 'my people' are dying so young... see where I'm going with this?

[UK2K]

Just to play devil's advocate.
Is that still true relative to population?

Let me explain;

You go to jail; you're locked up with 150 white criminals and 5 black criminals. 75% of the time you will be killed by a white criminal and 25% of the time you will be killed by the black criminal

Who is more threatening if you are approached by a random white criminal and a random black criminal?
I was going to point out how he is wrong, but I see you beat me to it.

Saves me the time. Not that he'll listen anyway.

[longtime lurker]

actual racism(by white people) is almost nonexistant today. The extent of it is teens on xbox live calling people n***ers :roll:

Racism is something that is solely perpetuated by the media to create strife and conflict. "trayvon martin". They also soak the idea into black peoples minds that every cop/white person wants to kill them. Cops only bother them because they are committing crime in the first place! If your just minding your business and actually not causing trouble as a black, you have absolutely nothing to worry about from a cop.

If the media was rebranded completely and the power of it taken away from a few certain people I think "racism" wouldn't be a thing anymore.

i pme you about your other question.

:biggums: these are the type of people you're dealing with. God bless Knoe Itawl for trying to reason with these ignoramuses. That's why I just prefer to laugh and mock their stupidity

[Knoe Itawl]

My white brothers. You've made this all about ME, as I feared you would. This post isn't about ME. Its' abut the FACT that you're dying at alarming rates, and this will not change.

Will you join with me to stop it, or will you succumb to your base instincts of fear, racism, etc.

If you don't change, your people will die in higher and higher numbers while you blame n!####

I'm BEGGING YOU. Please change. For your own sakes. PLEASE CHANGE,

[fiddy]

My white brothers. You've made this all about ME, as I feared you would. This post isn't about ME. Its' abut the FACT that you're dying at alarming rates, and this will not change.

Will you join with me to stop it, or will you succumb to your base instincts of fear, racism, etc.

If you don't change, your people will die in higher and higher numbers while you blame n!####

I'm BEGGING YOU. Please change. For your own sakes. PLEASE CHANGE,
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[HenryGarfunkle]

My white brothers. You've made this all about ME, as I feared you would. This post isn't about ME. Its' abut the FACT that you're dying at alarming rates, and this will not change.

Will you join with me to stop it, or will you succumb to your base instincts of fear, racism, etc.

If you don't change, your people will die in higher and higher numbers while you blame n!####

I'm BEGGING YOU. Please change. For your own sakes. PLEASE CHANGE,
Only whites can troll well, sorry brotha.

[Kobe]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.

[warriorfan]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.

its kobe! :roll:

[fiddy]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.
Gawdbe appearance :bowdown:

[Knoe Itawl]

Well,it's been a whole thread, and as I expected when I first created it, people have ignored many of the points made in the OP. They've deflected. They've made it about me. They've failed to address the issues I outlined regading the death rates of middle aged white people. What conclusion can I draw from this? The only conclusion is that their racism causes them to be more focused on those damn n!@@ that they hate so much, rather than looking inward to what's going on in their own communites.

I truly don't get what makes people go so deep in denial, even in the face of proof that their worldview is defective.

It's like I care more about white people than they do. Crazy.

[Knoe Itawl]

Of course not.

We don't live in a world where we can control other people's thoughts. People think different things and come to different conclusions. Some people will come to the conclusion that they just don't like some groups of people. Trying to make there be no more racist is like trying to make there be no gays or no people who like mushrooms.

Sure. But that was never the point of my thread. The point was that working class whites have expended so much energy on the black boogeyman they've been brainwashed to fear that they'e ignored the REAL boogeyman which is the 1% that are truly a threat to them, that have truly stole from them. That are truly the ones causing their despair.

But yes, keep going on about thug rappers you hate and ignore thug Wall St types that are really stealing from you white folks.

Are you really that self destructive??? I truly don't understand.

[mehyaM24]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

guess i can't say i was the only poster making sushi outta the OP. :eek:

[KNOW1EDGE]

This thread is pure gold.

Keep on posting OP.

Any threads you have been debating about making, or decided not to make, you need to make those threads. Give the people what they want.

[Knoe Itawl]

This thread is pure gold.

Keep on posting OP.

Any threads you have been debating about making, or decided not to make, you need to make those threads. Give the people what they want.

I mean, you have to understand that anyone who comes into this thread and doesn't expressly state what they disagree with in the OP point by point without deflecting, without being intellectually dishonest, etc. I take as an admission that they have no point, right? So anyone can attack me (which I expected, even though my point was to call for unity with my ISH Klan brothers), but when they fail to address the points I raised, I take that as an admission of defeat.

You get that right?

[KNOW1EDGE]

Well homeboy pointed out specific, direct quotes from you and you responded by telling him you were putting him on your block list. So I don't think anyone believes you when you say you want people to point out specific things they disagree with.

[mehyaM24]

This thread is pure gold.

Keep on posting OP.

Any threads you have been debating about making, or decided not to make, you need to make those threads. Give the people what they want.

yea, its just unfortunate that i have YET to read any counter-arguments on OP's end.

just deflect, deflect, deflect. guess the statistics i posted were too damming for him and race-baiters alike. :lol

[SugarHill]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.
:biggums:

[Dresta]

So OPs post can be effectively boiled down to:

1. Middle-Aged whites dying at alarming rates, this, despite their obvious privileges (i would think the mortality rate would go to challenge this presumption tbh, but you overlooked that possibility).

2. This shows that there is no such thing as an American culture, or that it has any value, or that it is worth upholding - in fact, he almost goes to say this proves 'white culture' is destructive (whatever that means).

3. What does he propose instead of the native culture? A void? Here we are touching on the reasons why these people are falling prey to despair and dying at alarming rates. Accepted norms and customs are needed to help people order their lives - instead, people like you, seek to plunge everyone into chaos and misery.

4. Makes mention of racism but then goes on to generalise about 'White people' as if it were some kind of monolith, thinking and acting in unison.

I should mention that you ignore that the large rise in mortality rate is not simply attributable to 'white people' as you so conveniently generalise, but actually to the non-college educated segment of that group (i.e. white proles). So yeah, these are people, who in their lifetime, have seen the things that are important and meaningful to them, swept away by the scions of cultural marxism, and at the same time the entire nation hates them - they are products of 'white privilege' but they are actually failures - thus 'what losers, failing even with your extreme white privilege.' Most of the country ignores this subset of person and likes to pretend they don't exist so they can affirmative action middle class mixed race girls into Yale and think well of themselves for doing so. If you want to know why these people are dying at alarming rates, then that is likely your reason. Of course, middle-aged University deans or bankers don't have the same problem, because they have all the material (and status based) gratifications that help compensate for the enervation of native culture.


Also, that trickle down economics works is a matter of fact, not opinion; simply look at the cost of flat-screen tvs on release to what they are now, for example, where almost everyone can afford one; likewise with computers, with mp3 devices, with an innumerable number of things (despite the Fed fuelling inflation at the same time), that used to be only available to the super-rich, and are now available to all, or nearly all. That is trickle down economics: the fact you don't understand the concept does not make it invalid - it is logically sound, unlike your arguments, which are absurd.


edit: I actually think my father would provide a decent example of this. He has grown up of this generation, in America (emigrated from Poland when he was 15), and the grasping materialistic values by which he abides are incredibly destructive. Over time, this has led to anxiety, depression, and drug-abuse (not to mention indebtedness: the staple vice of the modern western world). And I have little doubt that if he wasn't earning a pretty chunky salary as a highly esteemed scientist, and if he didn't have proper family and support structures, plus the other luxuries of living fairly well in the modern world, then he'd have been far less likely to make it through. Hence the problem for less-educate whites, who lack most of these things, but who often live by the same valuations (destructive ones). fyi: this is not the native culture of the USA, but the materialist void that has swept in to replace it.

What we are seeing is a product of internal and external disorder - at the same time as encouraging moral and social chaos, we encourage introverted thinking and neuroticism through psychiatry and other practices - again, this could only be self-destructive, and i think it is a prevalent problem among all segments of American society; it is, in fact, a cultural problem, deriving from a lack of cohesiveness and shared cultural norms. My guess as to why it has particularly affected this demographic (less successful whites), is because this is literally the only group that receives no societal solidarity, no sympathy for their plight - if a white person fails they have no excuses: they're just 'losers.' If you don't think it psychologically damaging to be an impoverished person - who is lacking in normative values - to be told incessantly what a failure they are, what advantages they had and failed to make use of, then i don't know how you could be convinced of anything else.

I've also never heard my father say anything about all this racial shit: it is completely uninteresting and unimportant to him. OP, you really need to look elsewhere if you are looking for a causal factor. It seems to me that you're a little too obsessed with race.

[UK2K]

My white brothers. You've made this all about ME, as I feared you would. This post isn't about ME. Its' abut the FACT that you're dying at alarming rates, and this will not change.

Will you join with me to stop it, or will you succumb to your base instincts of fear, racism, etc.

If you don't change, your people will die in higher and higher numbers while you blame n!####

I'm BEGGING YOU. Please change. For your own sakes. PLEASE CHANGE,
But, yet again, blacks are dying faster than whites. Much faster. Look at blacks living in the cuty...they die much, much, much younger than whites.

Do you not care about blacks?

And why do you keep ignoring me when I ask you if you care? Does it ruin the game to hear racist statistics?

[Knoe Itawl]

Well homeboy pointed out specific, direct quotes from you and you responded by telling him you were putting him on your block list. So I don't think anyone believes you when you say you want people to point out specific things they disagree with.

Haha, his first reply was "OP is a b!tch", then proceeded to spout gibberish about PC. I'm not going to engage that. :oldlol:

Well, we're 8 pages in and predictably people have brought it back to black crime stats but NO ONE has addressed the simple point. I'll state it again, and maybe this time someone will. Otherwise, I'll just assume that they've conceded, and are just deflecting.

Here we go. The STATS say that whites kill each other 84% of the time. This means that whites are overwhelmingly more likely to be killed by other whites than blacks. Yet the racists and bigots just loooove posting black crime stats. Seems to me that they should worry about their own FIRST since they are much more of an immediate threat to them., yet they do not. WHY? :confusedshrug:

Further, whites are more likely to kill themselves than other groups. Again, why do white racists and bigots worry more about black crime than THAT? :confusedshrug:

I'll let Lyndon B Johnson tell you why again:


If you can convince the lowest white man that he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll even empty his pockets for you.

He was trying to tell people 50 years ago. And you know what happened? White people emptied their pockets for other white people and now they are dying in middle age at alarming rates. They are lonely, broken, unhealthy. They blamed it all on the black boogieman, while their fellow "brothers" were robbing them.

Hell, why are red states, which are just chock full of racists so high on looking at interracial porn, specifically black men with white women? I mean, you racists and bigots are truly sick and confused. :confusedshrug:

Why are white racists and bigots on a board that is about a sport that blacks dominate? If I truly hated white people, you wouldn't catch me rooting for them on sports teams. I'd want to avoid anything they were involved in. Again, racists and bigots are demented.

Finally, someone accused me of doing the same thing as racists and bigots. I specifically said I was referring to racists and bigots, not ALL white people. I know numerous white people that would agree with most everything I've written, so obviously I don't lump all white people together.

[Legends66NBA7]

I see this fool has found another hobby than just hating on me.

9+ years on this account and 1 post. Crazy lurker.



*Back to the shadows*

[West-Side]

9+ years on this account and 1 post. Crazy lurker.



*Back to the shadows*

Uhm, he has a career.
Dude is always on the road playing for the Lakers.

:rolleyes: