UK's parliamentary vote on Syria airstrikes: 397 in favor, 223 against

[RagaZ]

:crazysam:

[fiddy]

I dont think Assad asked them for help

[oarabbus]

Airstikes dont do shit. We (the U.S.) have been airstriking for a decade and it hasn't done shit.

The one that that did anything was sending a SEAL team to kill Bin Laden

[StephHamann]

I said it already but i will say it again.

To stop terrorism in Europe, start bombing the suburb of Paris, Marseilles,Brussels,Bradford,Berlin.....

[Pushxx]

The military industrial complex over the last 7 decades:

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1313514701975.jpg

$19 trillion in national debt and $16 trillion missing from The Fed.

Good job good effort, libs and cons!

[fiddy]

I said it already but i will say it again.

To stop terrorism in Europe, start bombing the suburb of Paris, Marseilles,Brussels,Bradford,Berlin.....
And Turkey


Airstikes dont do shit. We (the U.S.) have been airstriking for a decade and it hasn't done shit.

The one that that did anything was sending a SEAL team to kill Bin Laden
Dont agree, the U.S. is just pretending to bomb ISIS at the moment, russian came and did more damage in two weeks than the U.S. did in a year

[LJJ]

The airstrikes from the US led coalition are mainly concerned with trying (and failing) to push Islamic State away from Iraq, away from the Kurds and towards Assad and the Syrian population centers.

A big part of why their airstrikes have been so ineffective is because they are making sure to not hit any IS infrastructure and weaponry. Hurting IS goes against the goal of the US in Syria, because that makes Assad more powerful. Their airstrikes are essentially road signs: go this way IS.

[knickballer]

The military industrial complex over the last 7 decades:

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1313514701975.jpg

$19 trillion in national debt and $16 trillion missing from The Fed.

Good job good effort, libs and cons!

This :applause:

Propping up moderate rebels and stirring up fake revolutions. War is a profitable game i tell you..

Assad is going down because he sided with Iran and Russia. If he was hypothetically aligned with Saudi Arabia and the US he would be championed as an angel who protects minorities!

[Nick Young]

Will they be supporting ISIS like their NATO allies Turkey?

[step_back]

Will they be supporting ISIS like their NATO allies Turkey?

Didn't you guys arm them in the first place?

[KobesFinger]

This will achieve nothing

[longtime lurker]

The military industrial complex over the last 7 decades:

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1313514701975.jpg

$19 trillion in national debt and $16 trillion missing from The Fed.

Good job good effort, libs and cons!

This will be ignored but it pretty much hits the nail on the head

[fiddy]

Just read that Syria has received its own S300 complexes and it will shoot at anything that is not coordinated with Damascus popcorn.gif

[KevinNYC]

$16 trillion missing from The Fed.

Whoever told you this either didn't know what they were talking about or were lying to you.

I had to google this, because I didn't know what you were talking about. It's about the GAO audit of the FED in 2011. Both Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders were misleading about this because they misunderstood one of the tables in the report.

There were $16 trillion in total loans, but not $16 trillion at any one time. Large corporations often take out 24 hour loans and then pay them back and borrow the same amount again. This is the Repo market.

For example, if you borrow $100 from me at 8am every morning and then at 8PM you pay me back $100. Over the course of the year, I've "loaned you $36,500." Of course, I only ever had $100 at risk.

That's what the $16 trillion represents the total of rolling loans. The amount of maximum money on loan was over 1 trillion, but not 16.

Further more this money is not missing. It's been paid back with interest and that was known at the time of the 2011 report.

The table that everyone misunderstand is followed by this graphic which is much clearer.

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_GAO_11_696_2C_Federal_R eserve_Syste6cc22a9e051f94b65a432a887ac87b0a.jpg

The colors are the different Fed programs. The total amount on loan shut up in late 2008 into the first few months of 2009 and then started coming down as banks paid them back in late 2009 and the vast majority of these loans were paid back by Jan 2010.

[Nick Young]

UK ain't going to do shit to shorten this conflict, let's be real. Their military is on the same level as Canadas. :facepalm

[KevinNYC]

Another way to look at that is the Fed acted to stabilize the banking system at the worst moment of crisis. In fact, nothing that the market/government did before stopped the financial freefall. It was when the FED stepped in and stepped in BIG, that things calmed down.

Propublica has a Bailout Tracker and they keep updating it. (http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/) Not every company paid back its loans, but when you add it all up the US government made a profit of $64.3B
This includes profits from Fannie and Freddie which the government still owns 80% of.

If you look at just the banks (http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/list/category/Bank): The goverment gave out $236B, $230B was returned, they had revenue of $33.8B from dividends, interest, and other fees and thus

have made a $28B profit to date.

[Dresta]

****ing shameful idiots: they haven't got a clue, and it's almost like David Cameron doesn't consider himself a real prime minister if he's not using British jets to bomb someone or other.

Embarrassing: it won't achieve anything, and can't have any impact because we have no real allies on the ground in Syria, and are unwilling to coordinate with the Syrian Army and Russia; nought to do but await the inevitable suicide squads sent out to murder as many British citizens as possible somewhere; thanks Cameron!!

edit: why is Kevin shilling about the Fed in here too? It's like he can't restrain himself: gotta plug nonsensical economics wherever possible, right?

[BasedTom]

Russias bomb the shit out of them = ISH wets themselves, everyone going out of their way to suck Putin's dick
UK enters the fray = lolbritain, fcking imperialists go to hell, think of the civilian casulaties!

[NumberSix]

****ing shameful idiots: they haven't got a clue, and it's almost like David Cameron doesn't consider himself a real prime minister if he's not using British jets to bomb someone or other.

Embarrassing: it won't achieve anything, and can't have any impact because we have no real allies on the ground in Syria, and are unwilling to coordinate with the Syrian Army and Russia; nought to do but await the inevitable suicide squads sent out to murder as many British citizens as possible somewhere; thanks Cameron!!

edit: why is Kevin shilling about the Fed in here too? It's like he can't restrain himself: gotta plug nonsensical economics wherever possible, right?
Keep it real. None of this matters until Obama is out of office. Nothing is going to happen until then.

[MMM]

David Cameron leader of the free world now that Harper is gone

[Nick Young]

Russias bomb the shit out of them = ISH wets themselves, everyone going out of their way to suck Putin's dick
UK enters the fray = lolbritain, fcking imperialists go to hell, think of the civilian casulaties!
Is UK trying to take down Assad or are they trying to stabilize Syria by putting him back in to power?:confusedshrug:


David Cameron is the most uncharismatic world leader I have ever seen.

[DonDadda59]

Russias bomb the shit out of them = ISH wets themselves, everyone going out of their way to suck Putin's dick
UK enters the fray = lolbritain, fcking imperialists go to hell, think of the civilian casulaties!

It's bizarre isn't it? I swear some of Putin's KGB buddies post here.

Anyway, seeing as how Cameron is pretty much the savior of Earth now that Vlad the impaler is talking sanctions and political solutions...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/10/00/2880CAF300000578-0-image-m-46_1431214269358.jpg

http://img.uncova.com/7381bf6d57ced0c6b9b9278bc66d70466b081524.jpg

http://res.cloudinary.com/tremr/image/upload/v1429888875/tcefthijb54oshiun8sy.jpg

:bowdown:

[Dresta]

Russias bomb the shit out of them = ISH wets themselves, everyone going out of their way to suck Putin's dick
UK enters the fray = lolbritain, fcking imperialists go to hell, think of the civilian casulaties!
No, it's a matter of sovereignty - Russia is there at the invitation of the only government Syria has, Britain, the US and co. are not (and through their intervention have ended up arming and supplying a bunch of Islamists).

Britain's intervention is built on top of the fantasy of there being '70'000' moderate troops with which we can coordinate, and pretending there's no difference between bombing in Iraq (where we have been invited), and bombing in Syria (where we have not). The whole wasteful US military campaign in Syria has demonstrated one thing that it would be foolish to ignore: that the only way to make inroads through air power is to make bombing raids in close coordination with forces on the ground; all the advances and successes of either the Kurds (with American backing) or the Syrian army (with Russian) have been achieved in this way - air power alone (particularly Britain's), is nothing more than a token gesture, another desperate attempt by Cameron to pretend we're still a world power (which we aren't - we are broke enough, thanks).

Plus, Putin understands the root problems here; Cameron and Obama are oblivious to them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuceU3x2Ww

The difference is stark. Compare that to Cameron's illogical drivel in the House of Commons :facepalm . Embarrassing. I know many people don't understand this distinction, because they don't actually believe in national sovereignty, and seem to think we live in some kind of borderless utopia where everyone has the same 'human rights' and other such nonsense.

[fiddy]

Russias bomb the shit out of them = ISH wets themselves, everyone going out of their way to suck Putin's dick
UK enters the fray = lolbritain, fcking imperialists go to hell, think of the civilian casulaties!
One is invited by the official leader of the country, other act as occupators invading Syria's airspace illegally for whatever noble reason they cite.

[Trollsmasher]

i hope assad shoots down some Ally jets now that SAA is opearting S-300s on their own