Curry or Jordan, the better scorer?

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

SO WE ALL KNOW WHY IM DOING THIS

3Ball...

[DrakeTheSnake]

Clearly Curry. He is gaining on Jordan as far as defense as well.

[3ball]

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MJ scored 35% more than Curry on better efficiency:


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


It's not even close

[WayOfWade]

Seriously? This does not need to be asked

[3ball]

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MJ scored more with less time of possession, better efficiency, and of course, goat defense


http://cdn.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/michael-jordan-defense-5.jpg


Bulls DRTG 1991-1993:. 7th, 4th, 7th
Bulls DRTG in .1994...:.. 6th

Bulls ORTG 1991-1993: .1st all-time (115 ORtg - highest ever)
Bulls ORTG in ..1994..:.. 14th in league (106.1 ORtg)


As you can see, MJ enabled a two-way team, which shouldn't be surprising, because Popovich said MJ is the standard for 2-way play:

[INDENT]"[I]He (Kawhi) has the ability to do what a Michael Jordan did at both ends, and I don

[f0und]

until curry can prove that he can turn it on at will, under the bright lights on the big stages, under enormous pressure, with the entire defense focused on him, then i still have jordan.

what curry is doing is amazing and is up there, or maybe better than any 20 game peak jordan had. but jordan was basically unstoppable for most of his career. whether it be reg season, playoffs, or finals, it didnt matter.

[navy]

Curry

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

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MJ scored 35% more than Curry on better efficiency:


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


It's not even close


2016 curry mate

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

3ball, once again

there is a 4 month break between the end of last season, and this season.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

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MJ scored 35% more than Curry on better efficiency:


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


It's not even close

Lol curry's is 128 over the past 20 games and is scoring 128 per possession.
fplii counteracted this already so this wont be adressed.
unless we start talking about PER. which is a crap stat. And since you ignored the method, im not gonna spell it out for you.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

until curry can prove that he can turn it on at will, under the bright lights on the big stages, under enormous pressure, with the entire defense focused on him, then i still have jordan.

what curry is doing is amazing and is up there, or maybe better than any 20 game peak jordan had. but jordan was basically unstoppable for most of his career. whether it be reg season, playoffs, or finals, it didnt matter.


teh arguement is if curry sustained this for a full season, including the playoffs, would it be better than jordan.

[Sarcastic]

2016 curry mate

Curry has not even played 1 millisecond in 2016 yet.

[ShawkFactory]

Curry is on his way to a better offensive season than Jordan has ever had.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Curry has not even played 1 millisecond in 2016 yet.

I see your username suits you

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

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MJ scored 35% more than Curry on better efficiency:


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


It's not even close

Lol, your argument is actually 50 shades of shit.

dont even want to reference the right curry.

[3ball]

fplii counteracted this already so this wont be adressed.


How did he counter the fact that MJ scored 35% more than Curry on a per possession basis, with higher points-per-possession efficiency?

Seriously, what exactly did he say to counter it?... Nothing... Not a single thing


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


MJ scored FAR more per possession, with better efficiency... /thread

[stalkerforlife]

3ball, chill.

Dudes just trying to rile you up.

You got the trump card as your favorite player.

You cannot lose an argument with Jordan.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

How did he counter the fact that MJ scored 35% more than Curry on a per possession basis, with higher points-per-possession efficiency?

Seriously, what exactly did he say to counter it?... Nothing... Not a single thing


Per 100 Possessions in Playoffs:

JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 118 ORtg
CURRY:... 32.6 pts.. 115 ORtg


MJ scored FAR more per possession, with better efficiency... /thread

ONCE AGAIN

there was a 4 month break between the end and beginning of the 2015 season and the 2016 season.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

3ball, chill.

Dudes just trying to rile you up.

You got the trump card as your favorite player.

You cannot lose an argument with Jordan.

Well, actually, neither him nor you have made an arguement so far.

[stalkerforlife]

Well, actually, neither him nor you have made an arguement so far.

Step up your trolling game.

[3ball]

what curry is doing is amazing and is up there, or maybe better than any 20 game peak jordan had.



Nah - true shooting alone doesn't make a player better - MJ had 20-game stretches where he was better ACROSS THE BOARD:


Jordan 1988 (19 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#209-227-sum:pgl_basic): 35.1 ppg.. 5.5 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 3.8 spg.. 1.9 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 128 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Jordan 1991 (20 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#443-462-sum:pgl_basic): 32.5 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 5.8 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 56.6 fg.. 131 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


MJ is greater across the board, plus DEFENSE






but jordan was basically unstoppable for most of his career. whether it be reg season, playoffs, or finals, it didnt matter.


Exactly
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[Harison]

Curry is better shooter, Jordan is better scorer.

[Proctor]

Another thread, another cockfight between two people who haven't picked up a basketball in their life and cite meaningless stats to bolster players they spend more time talking about than watching.

Cool. :facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

Nah - true shooting alone doesn't make a player better - MJ had 20-game stretches where he was better ACROSS THE BOARD:


Jordan 1988 (19 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#209-227-sum:pgl_basic): 35.1 ppg.. 5.5 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 3.8 spg.. 1.9 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 128 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Jordan 1991 (20 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#443-462-sum:pgl_basic): 32.5 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 5.8 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 56.6 fg.. 131 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


MJ is greater across the board, plus DEFENSE




Exactly
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:roll: :roll: :roll:

You use all the numbers that make Jordan look better and ignore the ones that make Curry look better.

Jordan was probably playing another 6 minutes per game in 91 and 8-9 more in 88.

Curry's per minute numbers are far better. His scoring 32 ppg in 34 minutes...

Let that sink in.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You use all the numbers that make Jordan look better and ignore the ones that make Curry look better.

Jordan was probably playing another 6 minutes per game in 91 and 8-9 more in 88.

Curry's per minute numbers are far better. His scoring 32 ppg in 34 minutes...

Let that sink in.

He already got roasted in when it comes to OFFRTG, which is legitimately his only arguement... when it literally is a box score driven metric...

[juju151111]

Clearly Curry. He is gaining on Jordan as far as defense as well.
Gaining on Mj on defense :lol :roll: :lol :roll: Pass the weed

[RRR3]

I feel that 3ball does have a point about the physicality thing though. If the refs let you be physical with Curry, he really doesn't like it. He panics when he gets trapped. Coaches really need to gameplan him better, the fact that he gets open shots is hilarious. I don't think any of us foresaw him becoming this good, it's quite frankly absurd how much better he is then last year.

[3ball]

Curry is better shooter



Only from long distance - Jordan was the FAR superior shooter inside 20 feet - this is statistical fact:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


Link to MJ's 1997 shooting data: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Link to Curry's 2015 shooting data: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season


https://media.giphy.com/media/14yzBgpfJSr5nO/giphy.gif

[juju151111]

Lol curry's is 128 over the past 20 games and is scoring 128 per possession.
fplii counteracted this already so this wont be adressed.
unless we start talking about PER. which is a crap stat. And since you ignored the method, im not gonna spell it out for you.
You can't compare only regular season. The best is the playoffs where Curry doesn't compare.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Only from long distance - Jordan was the FAR superior shooter inside 20 feet - this is statistical fact:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


Link to MJ's 1997 shooting data: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Link to Curry's 2015 shooting data: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season


https://media.giphy.com/media/14yzBgpfJSr5nO/giphy.gif

Curry is shooting 60% from 2 point range this year lol.

[RRR3]

3ball, MJ>Curry but I guarantee Curry is a better jumpshooter from any area on the floor. In terms of post game, and finishing "over the trees", I'm sure MJ has him easily. But Curry is so much better than everyone else at shooting it's crazy.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

my god are people illiterate.

its a hypothetical curry that keeps this up for the whole season.

THIS SEASON

[juju151111]

3ball, MJ>Curry but I guarantee Curry is a better jumpshooter from any area on the floor. In terms of post game, and finishing "over the trees", I'm sure MJ has him easily. But Curry is so much better than everyone else at shooting it's crazy.
Agreed Curry peak shooting will be better then Mj.

[RRR3]

my god are people illiterate.

its a hypothetical curry that keeps this up for the whole season.

THIS SEASON
You think Curry is going to have a 35 PER the whole season? El o ****ing el.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

You think Curry is going to have a 35 PER the whole season? El o ****ing el.

HYPOTHETICAL

[3ball]

You use all the numbers that make Jordan look better and ignore the ones that make Curry look better.



The only stat I left off was true shooting - true shooting by itself cannot make a player greater, when MJ is superior in virtually every other category:


Jordan 1988 (19 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#209-227-sum:pgl_basic): 35.1 ppg.. 5.5 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 3.8 spg.. 1.9 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 128 ortg
CURRY .. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


JORDAN 1991 (21 games): 32.8 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.1 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 58.5 fg.. 63.5 ts.. 132 ortg
CURRY.. 2016 (21 games): 32.6 ppg.. 4.9 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 2.3 spg.. 0.1 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 70.6 ts.. 129 ortg


Plus defense






Jordan was probably playing another 6 minutes per game in 91 and 8-9 more in 88.


So Curry is a fragile player that can only play 31 mpg, while MJ had superior stamina and durability, so he could give his team far more minutes?

Hmmm....... Wow... MJ's superiority over Curry is even greater than I thought.

[juju151111]

Agreed you can't just increase someone mins and think they stay at the same efficiency. This is the whole reason they hope to play Curry low mins because Curry has a atg team.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

The only stat I left off was true shooting - true shooting by itself cannot make a player greater, when MJ is superior in virtually every other category:


Jordan 1988 (19 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#209-227-sum:pgl_basic): 35.1 ppg.. 5.5 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 3.8 spg.. 1.9 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 128 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Jordan 1991 (20 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#443-462-sum:pgl_basic): 32.5 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 5.8 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 56.6 fg.. 131 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Plus defense




So Curry is a fragile player that can only play 31 mpg, while MJ had superior stamina and durability, so he could give his team far more minutes?

Hmmm....... Wow... MJ's superiority over Curry is even greater than I thought.

Actually, its because the warriors win by an average of over 15 points a game.

also, take out draymond, who has taken a passing role, and curry would average more assists... and he has shown that he can.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Agreed you can't just increase someone mins and think they stay at the same efficiency. This is the whole reason they hope to play Curry low mins because Curry has a atg team.

with curry off the floor, the warriors are worse than league average on offense.

[RRR3]

Take out Draymond and Curry isn't doing as well.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

The only stat I left off was true shooting - true shooting by itself cannot make a player greater, when MJ is superior in virtually every other category:


Jordan 1988 (19 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1988/#209-227-sum:pgl_basic): 35.1 ppg.. 5.5 rpg.. 6.7 apg.. 3.8 spg.. 1.9 bpg.. 55.8 fg.. 128 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Jordan 1991 (20 games) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#443-462-sum:pgl_basic): 32.5 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 5.8 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 56.6 fg.. 131 ortg
Curry. 2016 (20 games): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 128 ortg


Plus defense




So Curry is a fragile player that can only play 31 mpg, while MJ had superior stamina and durability, so he could give his team far more minutes?

Hmmm....... Wow... MJ's superiority over Curry is even greater than I thought.

Also, OFFRTG is a BOX SCORE based stat.

[juju151111]

with curry off the floor, the warriors are worse than league average on offense.
What does that have to do with what i said

[oh the horror]

I don't care what anyone tells me or what stats you throw around. The defense being played now caters to perimeter players scoring in bunches these days. I can see it with my own eyes.


I can't even begin to imagine Jordan slicing up the defense these days, even when he was older and pulling turnaround jumpers.



Curry is amazing. I'm not going to discredit that but Jordan killed you every way imaginable.


I'd like to see someone put hands on and body up Curry and see how he responds.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Take out Draymond and Curry isn't doing as well.

:biggums:

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

What does that have to do with what i said

wrong guy lol.

but

Curry right now,

2pt 5.5/9.1

3pt 5.1/11

ft 5.8/6.2


Lets just increase volume, in accordance to per 48 minutes.


Obviously, volume = lower effeciency.

so lets assume that he shoots 45% on the rest of his 2 pointers. unlikely, he is shooting 60% from there, and leads the league in percentage in the paint, but whatever.

he would be shooting 12.84 2 pointers.

so 7.16/12.84 on 2 pointers

lets assume that he shoots 33% on the rest of his threes. considering that he is 4/8 from nonheave 30+ feet shots, its unlikely but whatever.

He would be shooting 15.5 3s.

So he would be

6.6/15.5 on 3s.

On free throws,

he would be shooting 8.75.

lets just say he makes 8.

so

7.16/12.84 on 2 pointers

6.6/15.5 on 3 pointers

8/8.75 on free throws

14.3+19.8+8

thats 42.1 ppg.

55.7% from 2 point range
42.5% from 3 point range
90.5% from free throws

essentially, thats 42ppg

shooting 2% less than 1999-2000 shaq (a tier one peak, obviously) INSIDE THE ARC

42+ from 3 point range

and obviously 90% from free throws.

and the thing is, anyone who sees curry play knows that he could take this many shots (well, not this many) but passes on some open looks in order to get the team into a "rythm." or get open layups with his "gravity." (P and Rs from the warriors are deadly because of this)

10% above average from 2 point range

7% above average from 3 point range

Obviously great at free throws.

remember, this is me taking a crap on his percentages as well.

also, consider he is a pg, meaning his fg% from 2 point range is "more" above his position.

realistically, he would still shoot 40% from 3 even if he was having sex while doing so.

and he would almost definitely still shoot above 50% from 2 point range.

so all in all, we have a still ridiculous efficiency, just 43ppg.

he could do it, just wouldnt be whats best for the team.

just to get his scoring abilities straight.

keep in mind, im only really adjusting for volume. hypothetically, adjusting for minutes means he would have roughly the same efficiency, just slightly lowered.

[3ball]

but I guarantee Curry is a better jumpshooter from any area on the floor.


So you think Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, even though MJ shoots 7 percentage points higher on 5 times the volume?

Are you stupid?... If Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, why does he shoot so much worse?

Explain that to me.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

So you think Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, even though MJ shoots 7 percentage points higher on 5 times the volume?

Are you stupid?... If Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, why does he shoot so much worse?

Explain that to me.

he is shooting 60% inside the arc you dumb ****

[DrakeTheSnake]

Take out Draymond and Curry isn't doing as well.
Why not? Draymond helps the team, but Curry hits those ridiculous shots without any help.

[3ball]

he is shooting 60% inside the arc you dumb ****



That includes at-rim you dumb ****... Here's their jumpshooting stats inside 20 feet for an entire season:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


If Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, why does he shoot SO MUCH WORSE?... Explain that to me, or concede the point.

[stalkerforlife]

he is shooting 60% inside the arc you dumb ****

Watch your language and your demeanor or i'll report you again.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

That includes at-rim you dumb ****... Here's their jumpshooting stats inside 20 feet for an entire season:


.........................MJ 1997........................Curry 2015

5-9 ft.............. 49.2%, 126 fga................ 40.3%, 72 fga

10-14 ft.......... 51.5%, 466 fga................ 52.9%, 85 fga

15-19 ft.......... 49.5%, 594 fga................ 43.9%, 132 fga


If Curry is a better shooter inside 20 feet, why does he shoot SO MUCH WORSE?... Explain that to me, or concede the point.


Holy ****ing Shit

2015-2016

and you realize that a layup is still a shot right?

get trolled

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Watch your language and your demeanor or i'll report you again.


lol, I RARELY go on here.

when I do, I get pissed off by how stupid people like you and 3ball are.

[mehyaM24]

if 2016 curry continues with this production, he'll be the greatest offensive weapon in history.

better than magic, jordan & bird.

doubt he can do it though - but i don't mind seeing him try.

[3ball]

Holy ****ing Shit

2015-2016


That's a concession... I'll take it

And even if we use this year, which is the hottest 20 games of Curry's career, his midrange percentage is STILL less than Jordan's:

Midrange percentage from nba.com (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

Jordan 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
Curry. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Curry. 2016: 47.4%, 57 fga**

** Through 20 games

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

That's a concession... I'll take it

And even if we use this year, which is the hottest 20 games of Curry's career, his midrange percentage is STILL less than Jordan's:

Midrange percentage from nba.com (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

Jordan 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
Curry. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
Curry. 2016: 47.4%, 57 fga**

** Through 20 games
so thats a big enough advantage to discount the ridiculous advantage outside?
and in the paint?

so jordan is slightly better from midrange.

Curry is worlds better from outside, and pretty much on par (67% vs 59%) in the paint.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Watch your language and your demeanor or i'll report you again.

filthy pedo

why do you want to free banned users mate. you pedo trash

[3ball]

so thats a big enough advantage to discount the ridiculous advantage outside?



All I'm saying is that MJ was the far better shooter inside 20 feet - the stats show that pretty clearly, even including Curry's 20 games from 2016 (all stats from nba.com):


.....................MJ 1997...................Curry 2015............ Curry 2016

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 60.9%, 21 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.0%, 16 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 40.6%, 32 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY. 2016: 47.4%, 57 fga


Again, MJ was the far better shooter inside 20 feet... Anyone that disagrees must explain why Curry shoots FAR worse percentage inside 20 feet..

[juju151111]

so thats a big enough advantage to discount the ridiculous advantage outside?
and in the paint?

so jordan is slightly better from midrange.

Curry is worlds better from outside, and pretty much on par (67% vs 59%) in the paint.
Curry isn't remotely close to mj in the paint bro. This is because of his teammates threat level from 3 and rule changes.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Curry isn't remotely close to mj in the paint bro. This is because of his teammates threat level from 3 and rule changes.


You realize that, even if that were true, Curry scores more ppp outside than jordan in teh paint?

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

All I'm saying is that MJ was the far better shooter inside 20 feet - the stats show that pretty clearly, even including Curry's 20 games from 2016 (all stats from nba.com):


.....................MJ 1997...................Curry 2015............ Curry 2016

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 60.9%, 21 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.0%, 16 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 40.6%, 32 fga



Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY. 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY. 2016: 47.4%, 57 fga


Again, MJ was the far better shooter inside 20 feet... Anyone that disagrees must explain why Curry shoots FAR worse percentage inside 20 feet..

2% = far worse

[Nash]

I think Curry.

What do you think, 3ball?

[sd3035]

obviously Curry

[juju151111]

You realize that, even if that were true, Curry scores more ppp outside than jordan in teh paint?
I agree, don't think im with 3ball are anything. I respect Curry and thinks he the best offensive player today. Curry paint dominance is more to do with Klay,barnes, and green being long range bombs. This is the reason Kemba was screaming for help and never receive it. Curry also benefit from rules changes that alow smalls to dominate in the paint.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

I agree, don't think im with 3ball are anything. I respect Curry and thinks he the best offensive player today. Curry paint dominance is more to do with Klay,barnes, and green being long range bombs. This is the reason Kemba was screaming for help and never receive it. Curry also benefit from rules changes that alow smalls to dominate in the paint.


I know, im just really pissed off at 3ball being an idiot right now.

[Marchesk]

I'm gonna go with the guy who averaged 33.4 in the playoffs for his entire career. I don't really care how efficient he was at it. I just know his teams fared well.

[90sgoat]

Why we acting like 26ppg in the finals is even in the same tier as MJ:facepalm

[juju151111]

I know, im just really pissed off at 3ball being an idiot right now.
I never respond to him because he clearly too bias to have a rational conversation. Even through i like MJ, i can't with him.

[Odinn]

These people think Dinosaurs are the ruling species of the Earth when Jordan was playing I guess.

Let me know when Curry averages 40+ ppg in a playoff series. Let alone 5 times.

[ClipperRevival]

:facepalm

This board has gone full retard.

MJ averaged 31.5 PPG as a Bull in 919 games and shot .505% and his PER was 29.1.

Don't get me wrong. Curry is special. I've never seen a guy with his ability to shoot 3s on the move. It's a GOAT level shot and release.

But dam man, he's got to do it over a sustained period of time to get compared to MJ.

Come on man.

[ClipperRevival]

I'm gonna go with the guy who averaged 33.4 in the playoffs for his entire career. I don't really care how efficient he was at it. I just know his teams fared well.

MJ is the all time leader in career PER. So he was a tad efficient.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

:facepalm

This board has gone full retard.

MJ averaged 31.5 PPG as a Bull in 919 games and shot .505% and his PER was 29.1.

Don't get me wrong. Curry is special. I've never seen a guy with his ability to shoot 3s on the move. It's a GOAT level shot and release.

But dam man, he's got to do it over a sustained period of time to get compared to MJ.

Come on man.

Dude this is a hypothetical curry that sustains what he does, including in the playoffs.

Single season.

[ClipperRevival]

Another form of true greatness is being able to do it year after year. Curry has put the world on notice right now. Let's see how he handles the added attention for the next 5-7 years. If he's still playing at a level somewhat approachable to this, then maybe we can talk. But now? :facepalm

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Another form of true greatness is being able to do it year after year. Curry has put the world on notice right now. Let's see how he handles the added attention for the next 5-7 years. If he's still playing at a level somewhat approachable to this, then maybe we can talk. But now? :facepalm

Dude it's single season comparisons.

[Marchesk]

MJ is the all time leader in career PER. So he was a tad efficient.

Yeah, that's just in response to the PER and TS% Curry is putting up over a 20 game sample playing only around 34 minutes.

It's great and all, but it's not 179 playoff games or whatever MJ played.

[ClipperRevival]

And taking nothing away from Curry's greatness but he would be less effective in MJ's era where handchecking would slow him down tremendously in the perimeter along with the physical brand of play that was allowed. He's playing in the perfect era for his talents. Again, taking nothing away from his greatness but this is simply true.

And you put a freakishly athletic, perimeter wing player like MJ in today's era and he would do better. This era is for the perimeter players. The league wanted it that way. MJ dominated in the era of big men, physical play and hand checking.

[ClipperRevival]

Dude it's single season comparisons.

Well, we are only 20 games in. There are 62 games left. Let's see if he can average 30.0 ppg for just one complete season before anointing him.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Well, we are only 20 games in. There are 62 games left. Let's see if he can average 30.0 ppg for just one complete season before anointing him.

It's a hypothetical thing. It's if he averages these exact numbers for the whole year

[f0und]

teh arguement is if curry sustained this for a full season, including the playoffs, would it be better than jordan.

if curry can sustain this for an entire season, carry it over to the playoffs, throw in a 40+pt series or two, a 40+pt finals, and hit clutch baskets all throughout, then i will admit that curry is a better scorer.

if say, he sustains it for the reg season, but cant for the playoffs, then he is not.

[riseagainst]

how come 3ball flip flops between Ortg, TS%, eFG, and FG as efficiency, but never sticks to one all the time?

[Replay32]

Jordan