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Marchesk
12-04-2015, 03:19 PM
Curry's is unbelievable, but where does it rank, at least offensively?

He's going to be way up there on efficiency. Some guys will have better scoring numbers, of course. Would like to see Dantley or Barkley's best 20 game stretch to compare their efficiency.

I'm going to guess Jordan had a 40 point 20 game stretch, more than once.

pastis
12-04-2015, 03:20 PM
Kobe? Kobe, kobe kobe kobe kobe kobe, kobe? kobe.....kobe!

Marchesk
12-04-2015, 03:35 PM
Kobe from 12/10/2005 to 1/22/2006:

41.4 ppg, 3.95 apg, 47.4 FG%, 37.8 3P%, 85.1 FT% on 38.3 minutes

Kvnzhangyay
12-04-2015, 03:43 PM
Hakeem had an amazing one: 1989-90 - 26.4 PPG, 15.6 RPG, 3.6 APG, 2.4 SPG, 5.8 BPG(wow), 49.5% FG

almost 6 BPG in a 20 game stretch :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Marchesk
12-04-2015, 03:58 PM
Elgin Baylor had a 42.2 point 20 game stretch. BR doesn't show his other stats on a game by game basis, though.

That might be the GOAT perimiter 20 game scoring stretch, not taking into account minutes or efficiency.

riseagainst
12-04-2015, 04:04 PM
MJ 3-13-1989 thru 4-18-1989

31.2/9.5/11.2, 2.7 steals, 50%FG

:bowdown:

SHAQisGOAT
12-04-2015, 04:09 PM
Shaq's 20 last games of the 1999-00 regular-season:
35.8 PPG / 12.2 RPG / 3.7 APG / 0.3 SPG / 2.0 BPG on 60.4% FG; 17-3 record

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png


Bird...

-In 1986 when McHale was out:
28.8 / 11.5 / 8.1 on 54.1 FG% / 44.6 3P% / 83.9 FT%; 16-4 record

-Another 20-game stretch from 1985-86:
29.6 / 9.8 / 7.3 / 1.8 SPG / 0.5 BPG on 55.4 / 54.0 / 90.9; 18-2 record

-Last 20 games in the 1986-87 rs:
32.2 / 9.6 / 8.3 / 1.8 / 1.0 on 56.5 / 44.9 / 94.1

-From 1988:
33.1 / 11.5 / 5.8 / 1.6 / 1.0 (with only 2.7 TO's) on 51.7 / 42.6 / 91.3

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whew.png

SHAQisGOAT
12-04-2015, 04:17 PM
Curry's is unbelievable, but where does it rank, at least offensively?

He's going to be way up there on efficiency. Some guys will have better scoring numbers, of course. Would like to see Dantley or Barkley's best 20 game stretch to compare their efficiency.

I'm going to guess Jordan had a 40 point 20 game stretch, more than once.

Dantley has a 20-game stretch in 1983-84 where he scored 32.0 PPG on 58.4 FG% / 86.8 FT%, and his team with a 16-4 record... That's very impressive.

He also has one from 1985-86 where he put up 32.7 / 4.9 / 3.9 on 58.0 FG%... 11-9 record though, and with 3.1 TO's... Plus, the shitty defense and other bad intangibles are known, from those days.

SHAQisGOAT
12-04-2015, 04:21 PM
Magic Johnson has a 20-game stretch from the 1986-87 rs where he put up:
28.6 PPG / 6.4 RPG / 11.6 APG / 1.6 SPG / 0.5 BPG on 51.4 FG% / 86.9 FT%; 16-4 team record

:bowdown:

SouBeachTalents
12-04-2015, 04:24 PM
LeBron in 2012 from Game 4 of the Knicks series through the end of the playoffs

31/10/6/2/1 on 50%

SHAQisGOAT
12-04-2015, 04:33 PM
Curry's is unbelievable, but where does it rank, at least offensively?

He's going to be way up there on efficiency. Some guys will have better scoring numbers, of course. Would like to see Dantley or Barkley's best 20 game stretch to compare their efficiency.

I'm going to guess Jordan had a 40 point 20 game stretch, more than once.

Chuck...

-From 1987-88:
30.0 PPG / 11.8 RPG / 4.1 APG / 1.5 SPG / 1.5 BPG on 54.3 / 22.2 / 76.2; 6-14 team record though, and 4.1 with TO's per game

-From 1992-93:
26.9 / 13.2 / 4.9 / 1.3 / 1.1 on 52.4 / 33.8 / 74.1; 16-4 team record (3.5 TO's)


One from Dale Ellis in the 1988-89 RS:
30.2 PPG on 54.7 FG% / 55.8 3P% / 85.3 FT%

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/leon.png

Most likely the most underrated shooter of all-time (elite from everywhere except at the FT-line)... Overlooked scorer in his prime, as well.

Suguru101
12-04-2015, 04:35 PM
2010 LeBron from early January till Late February:

32 PTS, 7 RPG, 10 AST on 50% FG.


2013 LeBron from mid-January till late February:

30 PTS, 8 RPG, 8 AST, 1.9 SPG and 0.6 BPG on 61% FG, 42% 3FG, 80% FT. Team record: 20-0

OldSchoolBBall
12-04-2015, 04:35 PM
Forget 20 games, how about 40 games?

Jordan, first 40 games of the 1989 season: 35.1 pts/8.1 reb/6.8 ast/3.3 stl/.8 blk/55% FG/62% TS

aj1987
12-04-2015, 04:47 PM
Dwayne Wade: 34/5/9/3/1 on 53/40/82 (games 46-65 in the '09 season)

Magic 32
12-04-2015, 04:52 PM
Magic Johnson 1987-02-05 - 1987-03-22

http://www.basketballphoto.com/Photos/Magic_Johnson-13365.jpg

24.8 ppg, 14.6 apg, 7.1 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg, 56.0 FG%

JimmyMcAdocious
12-04-2015, 05:10 PM
Westbrook last season had a 20 game stretch of 32.8/9.3/10.2/2 steals. .434/.352/.882

14-6 record. 10-5 without KD.

Anyone got TMac's best stretch? I feel like he had some beastly ones.

SouBeachTalents
12-04-2015, 05:14 PM
Westbrook last season had a 20 game stretch of 32.8/9.3/10.2/2 steals. .434/.352/.882

14-6 record. 10-5 without KD.

Anyone got TMac's best stretch? I feel like he had some beastly ones.

T-Mac in '03 from 2/21-4/01

37/6/7 on 49%

Magic 32
12-04-2015, 05:20 PM
Kobe 2007-03-06 - 2007-04-15

38.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.7 apg, 1.4 spg, 46 fg%

ShawkFactory
12-04-2015, 05:23 PM
T-Mac in '03 from 2/21-4/01

37/6/7 on 49%
Oh wow

ClipperRevival
12-04-2015, 05:24 PM
T-Mac in '03 from 2/21-4/01

37/6/7 on 49%

MJ averaged that over a season.

ArbitraryWater
12-04-2015, 05:28 PM
LeBron in 2012 from Game 4 of the Knicks series through the end of the playoffs

31/10/6/2/1 on 50%

yeah but he did 30/10/6 on 50% for the entire run so no need to find a cut off point

Marchesk
12-04-2015, 05:28 PM
One from Dale Ellis in the 1988-89 RS:
30.2 PPG on 54.7 FG% / 55.8 3P% / 85.3 FT%

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/leon.png

Most likely the most underrated shooter of all-time (elite from everywhere except at the FT-line)... Overlooked scorer in his prime, as well.[/B]

Damn, no idea Ellis did that. Wonder why he wasn't an elite FT shooter.

Magic 32
12-04-2015, 05:28 PM
Larry Bird: 1987-03-13 - 1987-04-19

32.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 8.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 1.0 bpg, 56.5 fg%

Marchesk
12-04-2015, 05:30 PM
Larry Bird: 1987-03-13 - 1987-04-19

32.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 8.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 1.0 bpg, 56.5 fg%

Yeah, well Bird would probably come closest to Curry shooting over 20 games, while putting up beastly all-around stats.

inclinerator
12-04-2015, 05:34 PM
wilt chamberlain 65 ppg 27 rebs 9 blocks 5 assist

Kblaze8855
12-04-2015, 05:42 PM
The last 2 months of 88 Stockton put up 17 points and 17 assists on 69% shooting with 50% from 3 and 16 points and 18 assists on 53/43. Im sure there is a wild 20 games in a row in there.

The_Yearning
12-04-2015, 05:44 PM
How many of them went 20-0?

pauk
12-04-2015, 05:45 PM
Excluding guys like Wilt, Elgin, Oscar, Kareem, Jordan & Lebron? Those guys averaged stuff like 30+ point triple doubles in 20 games.... and even then its nothing compared to Wilt who may have even averaged 50 point quadruple doubles in 20 games if blocks/steals were recorded... or Oscar, who averaged exactly 30-10-10 in 5 straight seasons, almost 6... you dont wanna know what they did in just 20 games...

Suguru101
12-04-2015, 05:48 PM
How many of them went 20-0?

LeBron.

pauk
12-04-2015, 06:00 PM
How many of them went 20-0?

Wilt, Jerry & Elgin won 33 games in a row, Lebron won 27 games in a row.. and so on... does that count?

ArbitraryWater
12-04-2015, 06:11 PM
Wilt, Jerry & Elgin won 33 games in a row, Lebron won 27 games in a row.. and so on... does that count?

Elgin wasn't part of the run you clueless ****... he retired right before it.

GrapeApe
12-04-2015, 06:21 PM
Dwayne Wade: 34/5/9/3/1 on 53/40/82 (games 46-65 in the '09 season)

He was also BEASTING defensively. The most dominant stretch of all-around play for a guard since Jordan.

HurricaneKid
12-04-2015, 07:17 PM
Forget 20 games, how about 40 games?

Jordan, first 40 games of the 1989 season: 35.1 pts/8.1 reb/6.8 ast/3.3 stl/.8 blk/55% FG/62% TS


As amazing as that is, .620 TS% is a FAR cry from .700. I don't think people are grasping the level of efficiency.

.700 TS% is just not human. If he shot 15 shots a game at BELOW league avg TS% he would avg ~48 points on > MJs .620 TS%.

Wade's Rings
12-04-2015, 08:38 PM
The last 2 months of 88 Stockton put up 17 points and 17 assists on 69% shooting with 50% from 3 and 16 points and 18 assists on 53/43. Im sure there is a wild 20 games in a row in there.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

WayOfWade
12-04-2015, 09:18 PM
My goodness, I had no clue so many players have had such beastly stretches, and unless I'm mistaken we haven't seen Jordan yet for whatever reason. And quick help if anyone can, how can I see 20 game averages on basketball reference? I always have a hard time working that site out

Psileas
12-04-2015, 09:25 PM
As amazing as that is, .620 TS% is a FAR cry from .700. I don't think people are grasping the level of efficiency.

.700 TS% is just not human. If he shot 15 shots a game at BELOW league avg TS% he would avg ~48 points on > MJs .620 TS%.

What do you mean by the bolded? Do you mean "if he took 15 shots more than he does and made these additional shots at a lower TS% than the league avg"?

ArbitraryWater
12-04-2015, 10:09 PM
Kobe 2006 (20 games-12/10-1/22): 41 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg on 48% shooting


My goodness, I had no clue so many players have had such beastly stretches, and unless I'm mistaken we haven't seen Jordan yet for whatever reason. And quick help if anyone can, how can I see 20 game averages on basketball reference? I always have a hard time working that site out

depends on what you're looking for.. can't just look for a players best 20 game stretch since its arbitrary.

tontoz
12-04-2015, 10:17 PM
Curry is averaging 32 pts in 34 minutes with a TS of 70%. That is insane and i doubt it has ever been done before.

Magic 32
12-04-2015, 10:31 PM
Hakeem 1990-11-17 - 1990-12-28

24.5 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 4.1 bpg, 2.8 apg, 2.6 spg, 50.6 fg%

Andrei89
12-04-2015, 11:24 PM
Hakeem had an amazing one: 1989-90 - 26.4 PPG, 15.6 RPG, 3.6 APG, 2.4 SPG, 5.8 BPG(wow), 49.5% FG

almost 6 BPG in a 20 game stretch :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


This should have been /thread

I would take this 20 game stretch over any stretch in history.

6 blocks per game not to mention he was an elite on ball/of ball/post defender, then he also get 2.4 steals a game while scoring and rebounding like a mad man.

God damn, Hakeem:bowdown:

JohnFreeman
12-04-2015, 11:26 PM
2010 LeBron from early January till Late February:

32 PTS, 7 RPG, 10 AST on 50% FG.


2013 LeBron from mid-January till late February:

30 PTS, 8 RPG, 8 AST, 1.9 SPG and 0.6 BPG on 61% FG, 42% 3FG, 80% FT. Team record: 20-0
Christ almighty

LAZERUSS
12-04-2015, 11:32 PM
We are talking about "non-Wilt" 20 game stretches, right?

A prime Chamberlain probably had staggering 20 game runs every season in the decade of the 60's.

Of course, when a player has a SEVEN SEASON streak (of 540 straight games) in which he AVERAGED 39.6 ppg, you would expect remarkable 20 game runs.

3ball
12-04-2015, 11:34 PM
Kobe 2007-03-06 - 2007-04-15 (20 games)

38.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.7 apg, 1.4 spg, 46 fg%


37.1 ppg.. 5.2 rpg.. 4.6 apg.. 2.9 spg.. 1.5 bpg.. 48% fg


^^^ Jordan 1987 season (82 games)

3ball
12-04-2015, 11:39 PM
T-Mac in '03 from 2/21-4/01 (20 games)

37/6/7 on 49%


35/7/7 on 51%

59.8% ts... 2.5 spg... 1.0 bpg (dpoy defense)


^^^^ Jordan 1988-1991 Playoffs (60 games)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1991-sum:playoffs_per_game

Andrei89
12-04-2015, 11:45 PM
We are talking about "non-Wilt" 20 game stretches, right?

A prime Chamberlain probably had staggering 20 game runs every season in the decade of the 60's.

Of course, when a player has a SEVEN SEASON streak (of 540 straight games) in which he AVERAGED 39.6 ppg, you would expect remarkable 20 game runs.

Stop overrating Wilt man. He played against mechanics, window washers, market cashiers and construction workers.

Most of those guys he played against would come to the game right after they worked 10 hour construction and were 6 foot tall.

I find it terrible that Chamberlain holds the record for most points in a game when , in fact, Kobe Bryant should be number 1 with 81 points.

As last, even though the quality of basketball was terribly weak during his prime, Bill Russel showed him who the real winner is.

3ball
12-04-2015, 11:51 PM
Jordan first 20 games of Finals:

35.5 ppg.. 6.5 rpg.. 7.4 apg.. 51.2 fg.. 2.0 spg


3 rings... 3 fmvp.. one 3-0 series lead and 4th fmvp on the way

LAZERUSS
12-04-2015, 11:53 PM
Stop overrating Wilt man. He played against mechanics, window washers, market cashiers and construction workers.

Most of those guys he played against would come to the game right after they worked 10 hour construction and were 6 foot tall.

I find it terrible that Chamberlain holds the record for most points in a game when , in fact, Kobe Bryant should be number 1 with 81 points.

As last, even though the quality of basketball was terribly weak during his prime, Bill Russel showed him who the real winner is.

Just for the record...

Wilt had entire SEASONS, covering between 8-13 games, in which he AVERAGED 40 ppg against Russell, 39 ppg against Reed, and 53 ppg against Bellamy.

Hell, in his last two seasons, at ages 35 and 36, and covering a total of 11 games, he averaged 24 ppg on a .750 FG% against Lanier.

Andrei89
12-05-2015, 12:01 AM
Just for the record...

Wilt had entire SEASONS, covering between 8-13 games, in which he AVERAGED 40 ppg against Russell, 39 ppg against Reed, and 53 ppg against Bellamy.

Hell, in his last two seasons, at ages 35 and 36, and covering a total of 11 games, he averaged 24 ppg on a .750 FG% against Lanier.

That is not what I said. I just said that, in an era with such high offensive pace and such extremely low quality players, you simply cannot throw stats here and there like they actually mean something. All you should care about is winning, and Bill Russel was winning and Wilt was not.

The guy was a superior athlete for his time I agree. But, in this era where the game is so much more superior to 40 years ago and everyone is just as , if not, more athletic than Wilt, he would not even sniff those stats.

When Wilt played, the league was just developing, had a small fanbase, players were not getting paid much as pros now, quality of players was lacking, I find it absurd that the single game scoring record goes to him instead of Kobe. Those raptors, although they sucked , were most likely 4 times better defensively than any team in the 60s.

Pushxx
12-05-2015, 12:01 AM
**** jlauber woke up.

3ball + Lazeruss in the same thread is maximum buzz kill. At least Andrei89 is here.

ArbitraryWater
12-05-2015, 12:03 AM
Jordan first 20 games of Finals:

35.5 ppg.. 6.5 rpg.. 7.4 apg.. 51.2 fg.. 2.0 spg


3 rings... 3 fmvp.. one 3-0 series lead and 4th fmvp on the way

thats the perfect finals cut off for MJ :bowdown:

tmacattack33
12-05-2015, 12:05 AM
Well you'll have to separate regular season stretches from playoff stretches....lol at the regular season, where players are more concerned with partying at the clubs in whatever city they are than the actual games.

3ball
12-05-2015, 12:14 AM
Jordan 1986-1993 playoffs (107 games):

35/7/7 on 50.3%

2.3 spg... 1.0 bpg.. 50.3 fg.. 58.1 ts

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game

j3lademaster
12-05-2015, 12:14 AM
It's Curry, because he's 20-0. Anyone who's played organized sports will tell you that win record plateaus. Staying perfect for 1/4th of a season is just... wow.

3ball
12-05-2015, 12:43 AM
It's Curry, because he's 20-0.



Not necessarily - Curry has to win the championship, just like MJ did in 1991, when MJ had a 21-game stretch that was superior across the board:


JORDAN 1991 (20 GAMES): 32.8 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.1 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 58.3 fg.. 63.5 ts.. 132 ortg
CURRY.. 2016 (20 GAMES): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 70.0 ts.. 128 ortg

link to MJ data: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#440-460-sum:pgl_basic


MJ scored 28.6% of his team's points compared to Curry's 27.8%, but MJ was also the Bulls' best defender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyFuf0tcRes&t=8m35s).

Pushxx
12-05-2015, 12:46 AM
MJ scored 28.6% of his team's points compared to Curry's 27.8%, but MJ was also the Bulls' best defender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyFuf0tcRes&t=8m35s).

I mean you even have YouTube videos saved with playback times as sources? :biggums:

Goddamn dude

3ball
12-05-2015, 12:51 AM
I mean you even have YouTube videos saved with playback times as sources? :biggums:

Goddamn dude



Here's the correct data with Jordan's 21-game stretch that is superior to Curry's across the board:


JORDAN 1991 (21 GAMES): 32.8 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.1 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 58.3 fg.. 63.5 ts.. 132 ortg
CURRY.. 2016 (20 GAMES): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 70.0 ts.. 128 ortg

links to MJ data:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#440-460-sum:pgl_basic
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#440-460-sum:pgl_advanced


MJ scored 28.6% of his team's points compared to Curry's 27.8%, but MJ was also the Bulls' best defender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyFuf0tcRes&t=8m35s).

3ball
12-05-2015, 01:05 AM
Here's Jordan's 21-game stretch that is superior to Curry's across the board:


JORDAN 1991 (21 GAMES): 32.8 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 6.1 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 2.7 spg.. 1.4 bpg.. 58.3 fg.. 63.5 ts.. 132 ortg
CURRY.. 2016 (20 GAMES): 32.0 ppg.. 5.1 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 2.4 spg.. 0.2 bpg.. 52.4 fg.. 70.0 ts.. 128 ortg

links to MJ data:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#440-460-sum:pgl_basic
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1991/#440-460-sum:pgl_advanced


MJ scored 28.6% of his team's points compared to Curry's 27.8%, but MJ was also the Bulls' best defender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyFuf0tcRes&t=8m35s).


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