Japan says it must look after its own before allowing in Syrian refugees

[tomtucker]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/japan-says-it-must-look-after-its-own-before-allowing-syrian-refugees-in

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only european leaders are betraying their own citizens :facepalm :mad:

[Edgar Friendly]

In all fairness Japan usually grants asylum to less than a dozen people pee year. They don't even want the north koreans.

[fiddy]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/japan-says-it-must-look-after-its-own-before-allowing-syrian-refugees-in

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only european leaders are betraying their own citizens :facepalm :mad:
European? Brusselcrats are anti-european if anything

[Segatti]

Based :bowdown:

http://i.imgur.com/9ektibq.jpg

[BurningHammer]

Shouldn't Japan be the one that still needs more immigrants because its own population is still keeping on shrinking?

[fiddy]

Shouldn't Japan be the one that still needs more immigrants because its own population is still keeping on shrinking?
:biggums:

[tomtucker]

Shouldn't Japan be the one that still needs more immigrants because its own population is still keeping on shrinking?

yeah, let's replace the intelligent japanese that makes electronic equipment like TV

[dude77]

japan doing it right

[DCL]

german leaders are sooo afraid of being labeled as xenophobic unsympathetic nazis. hitler f--ked their psychology up for generations.

japan, even though they were part of the axis powers, got none of that guilt.

they took it up the ass in hiroshima and nagasaki. they still got the "we don't give a flying spaceship f--k" card to world problems.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

german leaders are sooo afraid of being labeled as xenophobic unsympathetic nazis. hitler f--ked their psychology up for generations.

japan, even though they were part of the axis powers, got none of that guilt.

they took it up the ass in hiroshima and nagasaki. they still got the "we don't give a flying spaceship f--k" card to world problems.

The prevailing drive for accepting refugees is not "Fear of being labelled racist." It is natural compassion.

No matter how twisted and cynical your world is.

[Nick Young]

Based Japan

[Dresta]

german leaders are sooo afraid of being labeled as xenophobic unsympathetic nazis. hitler f--ked their psychology up for generations.

japan, even though they were part of the axis powers, got none of that guilt.

they took it up the ass in hiroshima and nagasaki. they still got the "we don't give a flying spaceship f--k" card to world problems.
That is part of it, but don't forget the understated reason why Germany has been so keen on mass-scale immigration: more cheap labour; and with the eurozone to keep its currency artificially low, they'll keep boosting the export numbers. For all the shit Germans have given the periphery states for their profligacy, it should be noted that much of their spending was on German goods that had been granted a competitive advantage due to the imbalances of the euro currency (lol @ German and Greek currency being equally strong).

German goods would be far more expensive, and consequently far less popular, without the eurocurrency and constant influx of low-wage migrants. The whole EU set up very much serves Germany (with some token concessions to France), and really, is showing itself to be the new manifestation of German imperial power.

[LJJ]

For a country like Japan which is halfway across the globe from Syria, sending aid is a lot more helpful than taking in refugees.

[NumberSix]

For a country like Japan which is halfway across the globe from Syria, sending aid is a lot more helpful than taking in refugees.
We really gonna act like if Japan was going through trouble, Syria would do fcuk-all to help?

Countries in that region that are walking distance from Syria aren't doing anything to help. How stupid are westerners? You think they would do anything to help us if we were in their situation? Not only would they not help us, but they would celebrate our misery in the streets screaming "death to (insert western country)" while burning our flags.

We owe these people nothing.

[senelcoolidge]

The Japanese have always been pretty smart. Another smart and commonsense decision.

[Nick Young]

We really gonna act like if Japan was going through trouble, Syria would do fcuk-all to help?

Countries in that region that are walking distance from Syria aren't doing anything to help. How stupid are westerners? You think they would do anything to help us if we were in their situation? Not only would they not help us, but they would celebrate our misery in the streets screaming "death to (insert western country)" while burning our flags.

We owe these people nothing.
Yeah, how much did Syria give to Japan after the tsunami?

[BigNBAfan]

The prevailing drive for accepting refugees is not "Fear of being labelled racist." It is natural compassion.

No matter how twisted and cynical your world is.

hah this dude is just screaming pwease pwease world take my cousins! der killing each oder in da name of allah pwease

[bluechox2]

japans got their own tsunami shit to clean up, and their own people to relocate and house

[Jameerthefear]

german leaders are sooo afraid of being labeled as xenophobic unsympathetic nazis. hitler f--ked their psychology up for generations.

japan, even though they were part of the axis powers, got none of that guilt.

they took it up the ass in hiroshima and nagasaki. they still got the "we don't give a flying spaceship f--k" card to world problems.
Go read up on the Rape of Nanking and see if you still hold the Japanese in such high regard

[Segatti]

Go read up on the Rape of Nanking and see if you still hold the Japanese in such high regard

It happened 80 years ago, it has nothing to do with people living in Japan right now. To blame yourself (like white people like to do) or others for something like that is pretty stupid.

[Nick Young]

Not to mention, Unit 731, which Japan still officially refuses to apologize for.

[Jameerthefear]

It happened 80 years ago, it has nothing to do with people living in Japan right now. To blame yourself (like white people like to do) or others for something like that is pretty stupid.
I didn't say they should, but there's definitely an "in the middle" compromise. Japan doesn't even acknowledge some of the shit they do, and it was some of the most disgusting and torturous shit a human being could even think of.

[Jameerthefear]

Not to mention, Unit 731, which Japan still officially refuses to apologize for.
and comfort girls...

[Nick Young]

I didn't say they should, but there's definitely an "in the middle" compromise. Japan doesn't even acknowledge some of the shit they do, and it was some of the most disgusting and torturous shit a human being could even think of.
Japanese were more f*cked up and inhumane than the Nazis in WWII IMO-And I'm a Jewish dude saying this.


Just look what they started doing with their own soldiers! Sending them on suicide missions as kamikaze pilots! Doesn't even compare to the f*cked up things they did to their POWs.


If we all shit on Turkey for refusing to acknowledge the Armenian genocide, why don't we do the same with Japan?


They always get a free pass.


There's a reason hardly any Americans felt guilty or sad after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Japanese military and government did some hardcore disturbing f*cked up shit at a level above even the f*cked up nazis.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'm fairly torn on this issue. On one hand taking in genuine refugees who are fleeing war/oppression is the decent thing to do.

Some concerns:

1. The demographics of these refugees don't seem to make sense for a genuine refugee population. Something like 80% male. Only around 20% actually from Syria.

2. Burden on the welfare system.

3. ISIS infiltration, obviously.

4. I've heard some arguments that it would be a lot cheaper (and thus more effecient, safer) to re-settle them there as opposed to bringing them to the US/Canada.

[Jameerthefear]

Japanese were more f*cked up and inhumane than the Nazis in WWII IMO-And I'm a Jewish dude saying this.


Just look what they started doing with their own soldiers! Sending them on suicide missions as kamikaze pilots! Doesn't even compare to the f*cked up things they did to their POWs.


If we all shit on Turkey for refusing to acknowledge the Armenian genocide, why don't we do the same with Japan?


They always get a free pass.


There's a reason hardly any Americans felt guilty or sad after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Japanese military and government did some hardcore disturbing f*cked up shit at a level above even the f*cked up nazis.

Excerpt from one of those Sex Slaves' Diary:
"You will be treated good if you dedicate yourself to the Emperor. "
I was forced to have sex with 10 ~ 15 soldiers every night.
Then I got pregnant, but with they removed my uterus with fetus, because they thought I was still 'usable'
On August 27th, a soldier with a sword asked, "Who can serve a hundred soldiers?" 15 girls who didn't raise their hands were killed as an example to the rest of the girls.
Soldiers took a naked woman by her head and feet, and rolled her on a board with nails protruding out.
Blood spurted and flesh dangled on the board.
Soldiers boiled the dead girl's head. And forced other girls to drink that "soup"
On Dec. 1st 1933, an officer killed a girl by stabbing a metal stick in her womb.
On Feb. 4th, one girl had heated iron stick brutally shoved in her womb and died immediately just because she didn't notify to the officers that she had syphilis and eventually transferred it to one of them.
After her death, there was burnt flesh left on the red heated iron stick.
Soldiers covered girls' whole body with tattoos by intending to kill them in the first place.
One Chinese man saw those girls being thrown away by the Japanese soldiers.
After they were gone, he rescued two girls who were barely alive, and nursed them for two months.
saw this on reddit :biggums:

[Nick Young]

saw this on reddit :biggums:
that's just the shit they did for fun to amuse themselves-look up the experiments that went on in Unit 731 if you want to learn true horror and gaze in to the depths of the closest thing to true hell on earth-warning-it's disturbing.

[Jameerthefear]

that's just the shit they did for fun to amuse themselves-look up the experiments that went on in Unit 731 if you want to learn true horror and gaze in to the depths of the closest thing to true hell on earth-warning-it's disturbing.
I read some of it and saw some of the pics. I almost threw up. I just can't fathom how a mass amount of people could do something so horrifying.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

that's just the shit they did for fun to amuse themselves-look up the experiments that went on in Unit 731 if you want to learn true horror and gaze in to the depths of the closest thing to true hell on earth-warning-it's disturbing.
just read a bit about this and saw the pics....what...the...****

[Jameerthefear]

just read a bit about this and saw the pics....what...the...****
:(

[RedBlackAttack]

It is true, human beings are capable of incredibly inhumane acts regardless of race, color or creed, but Nick Young is right about one thing... most of the Western World is not aware of the depths of torture and perversion sanctioned by the Japanese government, WWII era.

Children having limbs cut off, frozen, and then re-attached to study the effects of frostbite and gangrene on appendages. Chemical weapons used against "anti-party instigators." Widespread vivisection of human subjects (again, including children) without any anesthesia.


All areas of the world have a sordid past somewhere in their history. I guess that is just an unfortunate byproduct of human nature... cruelty.

But the Japanese went hardcore with it. And you really have to delve into the subject matter to understand the extent of it. Ugly, and not for the faint of heart.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/17/world/unmasking-horror-a-special-report-japan-confronting-gruesome-war-atrocity.html?pagewanted=1

[Goofsta Knicca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6v_AiUK5mk&feature=youtu.be&t=41s

[Jameerthefear]

It is true, human beings are capable of incredibly inhumane acts regardless of race, color or creed, but Nick Young is right about one thing... most of the Western World is not aware of the depths of torture and perversion sanctioned by the Japanese government, WWII era.

Children having limbs cut off, frozen, and then re-attached to study the effects of frostbite and gangrene in re-attached appendages. Chemical weapons used against "anti-party instigators." Widespread vivisection of human subjects (again, including children) without any anesthesia.


All areas of the world have a sordid past somewhere in their history. I guess that is just an unfortunate byproduct of human nature... cruelty.

But the Japanese went hardcore with it. And you really have to delve into the subject matter to understand the extent of it. Ugly, and not for the faint of heart.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/17/world/unmasking-horror-a-special-report-japan-confronting-gruesome-war-atrocity.html?pagewanted=1
Not to mention the Rape of Nanking...

[senelcoolidge]

My wife's grandmother was a young girl during the Japanese occupation in the Philippines. She and her family had to hid in a cave from the Japanese. She said they were real bad guys.

[CarlosBoozer]

I would rather die in a gas chamber than be tortured and killed by those jap fvcks

[tomtucker]

It is true, human beings are capable of incredibly inhumane acts regardless of race, color or creed, but Nick Young is right about one thing... most of the Western World is not aware of the depths of torture and perversion sanctioned by the Japanese government, WWII era.

Children having limbs cut off, frozen, and then re-attached to study the effects of frostbite and gangrene on appendages. Chemical weapons used against "anti-party instigators." Widespread vivisection of human subjects (again, including children) without any anesthesia.


All areas of the world have a sordid past somewhere in their history. I guess that is just an unfortunate byproduct of human nature... cruelty.

But the Japanese went hardcore with it. And you really have to delve into the subject matter to understand the extent of it. Ugly, and not for the faint of heart.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/17/world/unmasking-horror-a-special-report-japan-confronting-gruesome-war-atrocity.html?pagewanted=1

No doubt, Germany in WW 2 were choir boys compared to the japs ........and they are still very cruel to animals

they are still right about the migrants though

[BurningHammer]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]yeah, let's replace the intelligent japanese that makes electronic equipment like TV

[Velocirap31]

I mean, Japan has one of the lowest birthrate in the world. The country still needs young labours for lower level jobs.

Yeah, they're screwed without immigration of some kind. 1/2 of the population too sick and old to work, good luck with that.

[Nick Young]

Yeah, they're screwed without immigration of some kind. 1/2 of the population too sick and old to work, good luck with that.
But they are too racist to ever accept immigrants or allow them to fully integrate in to Japanese society.

They also know that if they start taking in Chinese immigrants, the Chinese government will go on one of its long term missions to annex Japan, like what they're doing with Taiwan.


I guess they made their play in WWII and gave up as a society afterwards. Atleast they make cool comics and videogames.

Wonder what will happen to that place in 20-30 years.

[UK2K]

Yeah, they're screwed without immigration of some kind. 1/2 of the population too sick and old to work, good luck with that.

Unlike the rest of the world, they don't need a lot of dumb uneducated social welfare leeches.

I would imagine their society is much more technology based than almost anyone else's.

[tomtucker]

But they are too racist to ever accept immigrants or allow them to fully integrate in to Japanese society.

They also know that if they start taking in Chinese immigrants, the Chinese government will go on one of its long term missions to annex Japan, like what they're doing with Taiwan.


I guess they made their play in WWII and gave up as a society afterwards. Atleast they make cool comics and videogames.

Wonder what will happen to that place in 20-30 years.

As far as i know they are okay with white people. maybe they will let europeans get asylum there.......then all the fukking muslims can turn europe into the shithole they want (like where they came from)........ while euros are chilling in Japan

What man does not love Playstation , (Mohamed) comics, and schoolgirls

:rockon:

[imdaman99]

They have the right to reject refugees if they want. It doesn't show compassion, but it's their right.

[Nick Young]

They have the right to reject refugees if they want. It doesn't show compassion, but it's their right.
Nice guys finish last, bro.

[TripleA]

Unlike the rest of the world, they don't need a lot of dumb uneducated social welfare leeches.

I would imagine their society is much more technology based than almost anyone else's.

Yeah but they need a labor force and in the next couple decades they are going to face labor force shortages.

[JohnnySic]

But they are too racist to ever accept immigrants or allow them to fully integrate in to Japanese society.

They also know that if they start taking in Chinese immigrants, the Chinese government will go on one of its long term missions to annex Japan, like what they're doing with Taiwan.


I guess they made their play in WWII and gave up as a society afterwards. Atleast they make cool comics and videogames.

Wonder what will happen to that place in 20-30 years.
Kinda like every western European country.

[Nick Young]

Kinda like every western European country.
Not Germany, breh.

[JohnnySic]

Not Germany, breh.
Germany is also swamped by immigrants (maybe not as bad as the UK and France, but still) and has a low birthrate. :confusedshrug:

[Nick Young]

Germany is also swamped by immigrants (maybe not as bad as the UK and France, but still) and has a low birthrate. :confusedshrug:
You can't say they've given up, they're succeeding pretty decently IMO and 70 years after WWII have fulfilled Hitler's dream and are currently running Europe.

[StephHamann]

Kinda like every western European country.

Le Pen might win the election in France, she is kind of like the "French Trump" but even more radical.

[SuperPippen]

You can't say they've given up, they're succeeding pretty decently IMO and 70 years after WWII have fulfilled Hitler's dream and are currently running Europe.

Fulfilled Hitler's dream? I didn't realize that the Jews has been exterminated, the Slavs had been enslaved, and that Germany had annexed all of central and eastern Europe.

[outbreak]

Are people who are against immigrants also supportive of turning away Jewish refugees during the holocaust?

[UK2K]

Are people who are against immigrants also supportive of turning away Jewish refugees during the holocaust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8

100% male.

Those aren't refugees, and to call them that is a slap in the face to the real people who need help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

More cowards. This group, also 100% male.

[imdaman99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8

100% male.

Those aren't refugees, and to call them that is a slap in the face to the real people who need help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

More cowards. This group, also 100% male.
How does it help your argument when you take a video off a guy that hates Muslims? :facepalm

"I am not surprised at how thankless these pigs can get. I am rather disappointed by the decisions of Europe which is over-looking the threat that these hardened criminals possess.
6th century brain-dead pigs can only be treated by medieval methods not by democratic appreciation of Human life."

How about an objective video? From someone that doesn't hate Muslims? No surprise that you subscribe to this guys videos though :lol

[outbreak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8

100% male.

Those aren't refugees, and to call them that is a slap in the face to the real people who need help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

More cowards. This group, also 100% male.

bias video. even still there are legit refugees who can't go anywhere. i'm not saying let everyone in and i don't know the solution myself but there's a whole lot more to the issue than the people who just say don't allow any refugees.

[UK2K]

How does it help your argument when you take a video off a guy that hates Muslims? :facepalm

"I am not surprised at how thankless these pigs can get. I am rather disappointed by the decisions of Europe which is over-looking the threat that these hardened criminals possess.
6th century brain-dead pigs can only be treated by medieval methods not by democratic appreciation of Human life."

How about an objective video? From someone that doesn't hate Muslims? No surprise that you subscribe to this guys videos though :lol

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

Ignore the video, attack the video poster.

DEFLECT DEFLECT

Don't discuss the video, change the subject.

Come on y'all, I'm gonna start calling you out every time.

So what did you think about the video? It obviously isn't faked. So how did there come to be a mob of Middle Eastern men SPRINTING (and starving so they say, they're that physically awesome) and throwing rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

And that one? No mention? Or are you going to bring up the Crusades or some shit?

[TripleA]

Eventually the old people in Japan will put a huge burden on the country.
Way more people not working than working.
The birth rate is still extremely low so it's just going to get worse.
Care of the elderly is a huge expense of a economy.

[Nick Young]

Fulfilled Hitler's dream? I didn't realize that the Jews has been exterminated, the Slavs had been enslaved, and that Germany had annexed all of central and eastern Europe.
Well, it fulfilled Hitler's other dream of Germany running and owning Europe.

With the EU, Germany basically has annexed central and Eastern Europe.

[Nick Young]

Are people who are against immigrants also supportive of turning away Jewish refugees during the holocaust?
The difference is, only 20% of these refugees are actually Syrian.

And war is different from organized genocide.

Please use your brain before making idiotic blanket statements built on logical fallacy.

Thanks.

[Nick Young]

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

Ignore the video, attack the video poster.

DEFLECT DEFLECT

Don't discuss the video, change the subject.

Come on y'all, I'm gonna start calling you out every time.

So what did you think about the video? It obviously isn't faked. So how did there come to be a mob of Middle Eastern men SPRINTING (and starving so they say, they're that physically awesome) and throwing rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

And that one? No mention? Or are you going to bring up the Crusades or some shit?
Every argument he makes is built on emotional arguments and deflection tactics. Not worth wasting your time on him bro.

[imdaman99]

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

Ignore the video, attack the video poster.

DEFLECT DEFLECT

Don't discuss the video, change the subject.

Come on y'all, I'm gonna start calling you out every time.

So what did you think about the video? It obviously isn't faked. So how did there come to be a mob of Middle Eastern men SPRINTING (and starving so they say, they're that physically awesome) and throwing rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplMnS6cb6g

And that one? No mention? Or are you going to bring up the Crusades or some shit?
I didn't bother with the video after reading it's description. Nothing you say is credible after realizing your sources are some chewing level angry videos :oldlol:

[UK2K]

I didn't bother with the video after reading it's description. Nothing you say is credible after realizing your sources are some chewing level angry videos :oldlol:
It must not have happened then... you're right, there aren't mobs of 'refugees' running around terrorizing Europe.

I could post CNN articles but you'd talk about the crusades so what's the point?