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Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 01:23 AM
Curry in the 50 40 club

Kobe in the 20 20 club


What more can you say about this guy Curry, just wow. In minutes can turn a close game into a complete blowout like that *snap*

Kobe's honeymoon period of his announcement has worn off, shooting overall now 29%fg after yet again another loss. Averaging only 3 assists, barely involving his young teamates.

We are so lucky that Dirk and Duncan have been aging gracefully in front of us and KG has taken a back seat. While continuing to be great competitors and leaders on winning teams.

ISHGoat
12-07-2015, 01:26 AM
What a time to be alive!

stalkerforlife
12-07-2015, 01:27 AM
Current Curry is better than Bran's ever been.

And he's only getting better.

SouBeachTalents
12-07-2015, 01:27 AM
When was the last time someone shot below 30% for a season?

Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 01:34 AM
What a time to be alive!


The TORCH has been passed!! :lol

JT123
12-07-2015, 01:34 AM
Careful OP. Kblaze is on a war path about any thread that points out how AWFUL Kobe is playing. He already closed one of my threads and threatened to ban me for speaking the truth.

SyRyanYang
12-07-2015, 01:34 AM
50/40/90 doesn't do Curry any justice.
He's shooting over 47% behind the arc as of right now.

Monta Ellis MVP
12-07-2015, 01:36 AM
The TORCH has been passed!! :lol
That's what your Father said after the first time he molested you.

TripleA
12-07-2015, 01:40 AM
That's what your Father said after the first time he molested you.

What the hell weirdo.

ISHGoat
12-07-2015, 01:40 AM
Current Curry is better than Bran's ever been.

And he's only getting better.

Incorrect.

Prime Bran > current Curry > peak Kobe

Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 01:44 AM
That's what your Father said after the first time he molested you.



HAHAHAHA


Warriorfan fumbles alts again?


"As you may all know i'm a big time pacer fan, yet also a Cavs fan, however I forgot to type this out because I thought I was on my other account" :roll:

JT123
12-07-2015, 01:46 AM
HAHAHAHA


Warriorfan fumbles alts again?


"As you may all know i'm a big time pacer fan, yet also a Cavs fan, however I forgot to type this out because I thought I was on my other account" :roll:
:roll:

Mr. Jabbar
12-07-2015, 01:47 AM
It was me who left op and his alts out of the family. Dont let his warr avy fool you

J Shuttlesworth
12-07-2015, 01:47 AM
Incorrect.

Prime Bran > current Curry > peak Kobe
Very much this

warriorfan
12-07-2015, 01:51 AM
rent free

Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 02:24 AM
When was the last time someone shot below 30% for a season?

Shooting splits of 23.5/20/50.

193 minutes played, zero assists. Zero. In the Zero-Assist Club

He has a -1.16 PER. He is currently the only player in the league with a negative PER.

He's averaging 8.3 fouls per 48 minutes. Tonight, he had 4 fouls in 14 minutes played.

Signed to a 5-year, $25 million deal. That deal runs through the summer of 2020, which sounds insane because it is insane.



http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Singler490898708.jpg

dhsilv
12-07-2015, 02:44 AM
When was the last time someone shot below 30% for a season?

http://i.imgur.com/BCESZ3y.jpg

Min 100 FGA attempts.

Collie
12-07-2015, 02:59 AM
When was the last time someone shot below 30% for a season?

1949-50 among qualified players (that means not counting your 10 day contract stuff, 100 FGA type of players).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=fg_pct_req&c1stat=fg_pct&c1comp=lt&c1val=29.9&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

Mr Feeny
12-07-2015, 03:21 AM
Current Curry is better than Kobe's ever been.

And he's only getting better.

Lmao Curry is gonna retire with a better 3fg% than Kobe's career fg%:banana: :D

Mr Feeny
12-07-2015, 03:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/BCESZ3y.jpg

Min 100 FGA attempts.

Not a single one of them took more than 400 FGA tbf. Kobe is on pace to hit 1k easily. So this is even worse!

ballinhun8
12-07-2015, 03:29 AM
Why didn't you just stay logged in as jt??


Your Mr feeny account was body bagged so bad last time that I'm surprised you've kept it activated.

dhsilv
12-07-2015, 03:32 AM
Not a single one of them took more than 400 FGA tbf. Kobe is on pace to hit 1k easily. So this is even worse!

Well there were a few guys in the 40's and 50's to do that.

But, TS% for kobe thanks to FTs and 3's makes him a bit less awful. Still yeah this is bad.

Mr Feeny
12-07-2015, 03:39 AM
Well there were a few guys in the 40's and 50's to do that.

But, TS% for kobe thanks to FTs and 3's makes him a bit less awful. Still yeah this is bad.

Yes, but that was when basketball was still in its infancy. It's was deplorable. An abomination. People dribbling with one hand and nobody able to make a shot. 60's onwards and especially post merger, this is gonna stand out as one of the worst seasons in NBA history. Possible THE worst.

Good research btw. Excellent stuff.

knicksman
12-07-2015, 03:43 AM
nobody remembers this my friend. Meanwhile 2/6 is preventing bran from entering top 15 ATG

dhsilv
12-07-2015, 03:45 AM
Yes, but that was when basketball was still in its infancy. It's was deplorable. An abomination. People dribbling with one hand and nobody able to make a shot. 60's onwards and especially post merger, this is gonna stand out as one of the worst seasons in NBA history. Possible THE worst.

Good research btw. Excellent stuff.

First yeah I changed tables, TS% is in the advanced table.

Interestingly we've had a lot of all time bad seasons lately. This does grant SOME respect to those claiming the game is weak right now. Of course with more teams and players perhaps we're seeing some issue there along with more bad teams along with great teams.

This seems like more interesting research than the kobe topic.

But yeah that's TS% under 42% as kobe is at 41.2% currently and 1000 FGA.

Edit

Removed image, there' something wrong with what I pulled and I'm going to bed. I'll look at it in the morning. I need to figure out a better way to pull this crap with all these damn players traded where I have to account for it and write overly complex formulas to address it.

Mr Feeny
12-07-2015, 03:49 AM
First yeah I changed tables, TS% is in the advanced table.

Interestingly we've had a lot of all time bad seasons lately. This does grant SOME respect to those claiming the game is weak right now. Of course with more teams and players perhaps we're seeing some issue there along with more bad teams along with great teams.

This seems like more interesting research than the kobe topic.

But yeah that's TS% under 42% as kobe is at 41.2% currently and 1000 FGA.

Edit

Removed image, there' something wrong with what I pulled and I'm going to bed. I'll look at it in the morning. I need to figure out a better way to pull this crap with all these damn players traded where I have to account for it and write overly complex formulas to address it.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this from. Whenever you see this in the morning, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what website you're using to play around with these tables.

Cheers!

Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 07:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BCESZ3y.jpg

Min 100 FGA attempts.


very interesting

props :cheers:

FKAri
12-07-2015, 07:42 PM
As bad as Kobe's been, I still take him over Kyle Singler.

Straight_Ballin
12-07-2015, 07:52 PM
That's what your Father said after the first time he molested you.

The coping mechanism for such a traumatic event in his life must have been making 700+ posts in one month on ISH. :lol

DMAVS41
12-07-2015, 07:55 PM
Careful OP. Kblaze is on a war path about any thread that points out how AWFUL Kobe is playing. He already closed one of my threads and threatened to ban me for speaking the truth.

LOL

He's in such denial about it....he still doesn't realize that Rose and Kobe both are in the running for least valuable players in the league

But its' "BAN WORTHY" to say something that is simply a fact at this point...

kentatm
12-07-2015, 09:42 PM
But its' "BAN WORTHY" to say something that is simply a fact at this point...

people are getting banned for talking about how shitty Kobe has been this year? :lol

DMAVS41
12-07-2015, 09:49 PM
people are getting banned for talking about how shitty Kobe has been this year? :lol

kblaze banned me for trying to create a thread about who the least valuable players in the league were....

And i only created it because he closed one that people were saying Kobe

He closed a thread just last night....

It's hilarious....

warriorfan
12-07-2015, 09:53 PM
stop crying if you guys got banned if it was for a good reason and you are being shady AF telling only half of the story...you don't get banned for no reason around here this isn't realgm

stop throwing shade on the mods to cause drama that shit is whack

Smoke117
12-07-2015, 09:53 PM
kblaze banned me for trying to create a thread about who the least valuable players in the league were....

And i only created it because he closed one that people were saying Kobe

He closed a thread just last night....

It's hilarious....

You got banned for that? That doesn't even make sense...JT makes countless kobe hating threads...kblaze never bans anybody. This is just odd.

He probably just doesn't like you. lol

HOoopCityJones
12-07-2015, 09:55 PM
You got banned for that? That doesn't even make sense...JT makes countless kobe hating threads...kblaze never bans anybody. This is just odd.

He probably just doesn't like you. lol

Because DMAVS is full of shit. JT and his alts make Kobe sucks threads about 50 times a day. But his is the one that gets him banned? Wonder why.

DMAVS41
12-07-2015, 10:00 PM
You got banned for that? That doesn't even make sense...JT makes countless kobe hating threads...kblaze never bans anybody. This is just odd.

He probably just doesn't like you. lol

For sure he doesn't like me...LOL

Can't stand him either, but you'd want a mod to be a bit more of an adult...he just hates it when I call him out for the bullshit he spews on a few topics

This being one of them...acting like it's some absurd notion that Kobe, Rose, and or Joe Johnson are some of the least valuable players in the league

Priceless though now...everyone in the basketball world is just laughing at Kobe...he's having one of the worst seasons ever

DMAVS41
12-07-2015, 10:01 PM
Because DMAVS is full of shit. JT and his alts make Kobe sucks threads about 50 times a day. But his is the one that gets him banned? Wonder why.

I have no alts and I almost never make threads

The thread I made didn't mention Kobe by name either

Try again...

tmacattack33
12-07-2015, 10:04 PM
LOL.

I never thought of this. But its true.

So which one is more entertaining to you? I'd say Curry but Kobe is right there as well...i doubt we'll ever see someone so bad get to shoot so much.

stalkerforlife
12-07-2015, 10:05 PM
DMAVS41 heading for another ban.

Keep it up, chump.

JT123
12-07-2015, 10:10 PM
stop crying if you guys got banned if it was for a good reason and you are being shady AF telling only half of the story...you don't get banned for no reason around here this isn't realgm

stop throwing shade on the mods to cause drama that shit is whack
What. a. meltdown

Gus Hemmingway
12-07-2015, 10:22 PM
What. a. meltdown
:lol :lol :cry: :lol :lol :cry: :lol :lol

Keno
12-07-2015, 11:19 PM
Incorrect.

Prime Bran > current Curry > peak Kobe

agreed.

Kblaze8855
12-07-2015, 11:49 PM
Actually he was banned for one night because someone made a topic....an admin deleted it(jeff or someone he gives that name to)....dude remade it...I closed it. And dmavs made it two more times in 5 minutes. Im not babysitting the front page all night because someone wants to spam. Not now...not ever. Anyone can think what they want to think. Being ridiculous isn't getting anyone banned. Making a topic over and over and over and over...will. And really the people making 15 topics a week on the same subject(Be it Kobe, bron, Jordan or anyone) probably should too. I just don't...because I don't really ban anyone. Someone bans Dubeta for 2-3 months at a time now and then...but for the most part nobody gets banned who isn't trying to.

And Kenneth and stalker set out to get banned them making long posts in new topics directed at me for whatever anti Kobe thing they think I did....and they were banned for like 24 hours. Not for the topics....for posting them in the NBA forum.

ISH doesn't do real bans. Not for people even halfway normal.

TheOne
12-08-2015, 01:51 AM
Why can't Curry shoot 55/45/95?:coleman:

stalkerforlife
12-08-2015, 02:16 AM
Actually he was banned for one night because someone made a topic....an admin deleted it(jeff or someone he gives that name to)....dude remade it...I closed it. And dmavs made it two more times in 5 minutes. Im not babysitting the front page all night because someone wants to spam. Not now...not ever. Anyone can think what they want to think. Being ridiculous isn't getting anyone banned. Making a topic over and over and over and over...will. And really the people making 15 topics a week on the same subject(Be it Kobe, bron, Jordan or anyone) probably should too. I just don't...because I don't really ban anyone. Someone bans Dubeta for 2-3 months at a time now and then...but for the most part nobody gets banned who isn't trying to.

And Kenneth and stalker set out to get banned them making long posts in new topics directed at me for whatever anti Kobe thing they think I did....and they were banned for like 24 hours. Not for the topics....for posting them in the NBA forum.

ISH doesn't do real bans. Not for people even halfway normal.

I may one day approve of you.

dhsilv
12-08-2015, 06:34 AM
If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this from. Whenever you see this in the morning, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what website you're using to play around with these tables.

Cheers!
'Basketball reference is the data source. The data however was imported into excel. I'm debating spending time to move this into something like power pivot but how to get the data relationships the way I'll want them is going to take some thought and I"m rather lazy.

As for TS%, I haven't had a chance to review. I had to get to work early and then worked late. And I'm about to head back this morning....silly jobs getting in the way of basketball data :)

I posted links to the excel files downloadable through google docs in the past. If you can't find them let me know.