View Full Version : 1984 was a great year for movies
JohnnySic
12-07-2015, 04:21 PM
I was 9/10 years old that year and my dad took me to watch Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Top Secret, The Karate Kid, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (and maybe some others, I cant remember).
I know most of you weren't born yet but I just wanted to share this epic memory. :pimp:
What are your earliest movies memories?
~primetime~
12-07-2015, 04:31 PM
non-80s posters will never understand how awesome the 80s were
the mesiah
12-07-2015, 04:35 PM
First movie I saw at the theater was Predator when I was 6 or so,I always remembered that if I ever seen one later on in real life to cover myself in mud.i remember always yelling "get to the choppa" to rite after the movie came out, good times ..
90's for sitcoms and television >
DrakeTheSnake
12-07-2015, 04:47 PM
The 80s in general was the GOAT decade for movies. They were actually fun without taking themselves too seriously, and have so much replay value. Prior to the 80s, movies were typically pretentious or trash. By the 80s, movies were really made for everybody and there was tons of exciting and original ideas. The 90s were decent with the boom of independent movies, but after that is when Hollywood really took over and now movies are more about money based on old ideas (remakes and sequels became the primary source of instead of fresh ideas).
DrakeTheSnake
12-07-2015, 04:48 PM
90's for sitcoms and television >
90s was the best for sitcoms, but not TV as a whole. TV has probably never been better than the past 10 years.
Lebron23
12-07-2015, 04:57 PM
1996 and 1997 was also a good year for movies.
rufuspaul
12-07-2015, 04:59 PM
90's for sitcoms and television >
I've been watching the first season of Friends on Netflix. A little dated but still damn funny.
~primetime~
12-07-2015, 05:03 PM
Predator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friends
:lol
Thorpesaurous
12-07-2015, 05:24 PM
I've been watching the first season of Friends on Netflix. A little dated but still damn funny.
Friends has had a huge revival on Netflix among college and High School kids. My younger cousins ask me about it all the goddamned time.
I've been watching the first season of Friends on Netflix. A little dated but still damn funny.
Yup. Haven't watched sitcoms and comedy shows since the 90. Missed an entire decade.
~primetime~
12-07-2015, 05:33 PM
Friends was never for me...I don't think I am white enough
I remember when I was like 7 my mom would always watch that show called "Reba" LOOOOL to the point where I liked it -.-
ROCSteady
12-07-2015, 05:53 PM
that is very disappointing Draz
Nanners
12-07-2015, 06:01 PM
The 1980s was the "coolest" decade by far, I dont think any other decade is even close. I just re-watched Blade Runner the other night, holy shit that is a cool movie.
JohnnySic
12-07-2015, 06:03 PM
The 1980s were the "coolest" decade by far, I dont think any other decade is even close. I just re-watched Blade Runner the other night, holy shit that is a cool movie.
Yeah the 80's had a style all its own, and so many original ideas came out of that decade.
DrakeTheSnake
12-07-2015, 06:53 PM
I remember when I was like 7 my mom would always watch that show called "Reba" LOOOOL to the point where I liked it -.-
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/digital-short-two-worlds-collide-ft-reba-mcentire/n12631
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 12:22 PM
I was 9/10 years old that year and my dad took me to watch Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Top Secret, The Karate Kid, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (and maybe some others, I cant remember).
I know most of you weren't born yet but I just wanted to share this epic memory. :pimp:
What are your earliest movies memories?
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Nanners
12-08-2015, 12:34 PM
look man, i aint falling for no banana in the tailpipe
ArbitraryWater
12-08-2015, 12:37 PM
Thought thread title said 1994.. try that instead, GOAT year
--^ dont stretch the page bra
iamgine
12-08-2015, 12:39 PM
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1987_Lakers
12-08-2015, 12:52 PM
No, in general the 80's was a weak era in movies. Too many sci-fi movies (not my taste) and very little masterpieces.
The 70's and 90's trash on the 80's, no question
The Godfather (72)
The Godfather Part II (74)
The Conversation (74)
Dog Day Afternoon (75)
One flew over the cuko's nest (75)
Taxi Driver (76)
Apocolypse Now (79)
Goodfellas (90)
Forrest Gump (94)
Shawshank Redemption (94)
Pulp Fiction (94)
Casino (95)
Boogie Nights (97)
American Beauty (99)
Fight Club (99)
All these movies trash on the top movies of the 80's.
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 12:55 PM
No, in general the 80's was a weak era in movies. Too many sci-fi movies (not my taste) and very little masterpieces.
The 70's and 90's trash on the 80's, no question
The Godfather (72)
The Godfather Part II (74)
The Conversation (74)
Dog Day Afternoon (75)
One flew over the cuko's nest (75)
Taxi Driver (76)
Apocolypse Now (79)
Goodfellas (90)
Forrest Gump (94)
Shawshank Redemption (94)
Pulp Fiction (94)
Casino (95)
Boogie Nights (97)
American Beauty (99)
Fight Club (99)
All these movies trash on the top movies of the 80's.
Not a poster I would expect this from...
1987_Lakers
12-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Not a poster I would expect this from...
If we are talking NBA its a different story, movies on the other hand...the 80's were actually kind of weak. 70's & 90's have more films that people consider masterpieces, this shouldn't be debated.
Nanners
12-08-2015, 01:10 PM
i would agree that the 70s and 90s had more "masterpieces", but the beauty of 80s movies is that they are just so much fun to watch, not that they are film masterpieces.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 01:17 PM
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Last Crusade
Back to the Future
Aliens
Full Metal Jacket
Platoon
Scarface
Raging Bull
Die Hard
Blade Runner
The Thing
Stand by Me
The Princess Bride
The Terminator
^^^ 80s GOLD
fiddy
12-08-2015, 01:19 PM
Friends was never for me...I don't think I am white enough
Friends is for teens, i used to like it years ago, watched a re-run recently and felt so goofy, wouldnt watch it.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 01:25 PM
Friends is for teens, i used to like it years ago, watched a re-run recently and felt so goofy, wouldnt watch it.
I was a teen when it was out and I didn't like it then either.
Phoebe singing about a smelly cat just never did it for me...
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 01:25 PM
would agree that the 70s and 90s had more "masterpieces", but the beauty 80s movies is that they are just so much fun to watch, not that they are film masterpieces.
This is true. The 80's were the golden era of Action Movies, Teenage coming of age movies, slasher movies, and so on. It was a fun decade.
The 90's had a ton of cheesy melodramas and 70's movies usually dont hold up well imo.
West-Side
12-08-2015, 01:30 PM
What are you people are even talking about?
80's was a weak ass era for movies compared to the 90's, 60's, 70s and even 00s.
:roll:
West-Side
12-08-2015, 01:32 PM
The Empire Strikes Back - overrated
Return of the Jedi - overrated
Raiders of the Lost Ark - great
The Last Crusade - great
Back to the Future - great
Aliens - good
Full Metal Jacket - great
Platoon - epic
Scarface - mediocre :oldlol:
Raging Bull - epic
Die Hard - epic
Blade Runner - great
The Thing - pretty solid
Stand by Me - epic
The Princess Bride - epic
The Terminator - great
^^^ 80s GOLD
You forgot Goonies & Breakfast Club though.
I grew up on those.
I still think it was a weak decade compared to other decades.
Thorpesaurous
12-08-2015, 01:32 PM
The Amblin movies of the 80s have there own sort of quality to them, and then they spawned tons of knock offs. They usually followed a pretty typical formula, and while they weren't masterpieces, they knew how to trigger the dopamine. Super8 was a semi recent movie that I really enjoyed that really tapped into it.
I'm a 70s guy. Just more carefully crafted plots and dialogue. And such a dark tone hanging over everything.
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 01:33 PM
What are you people are even talking about?
80's was a weak ass era for movies compared to the 90's, 60's, 70s and even 00s.
:roll:
Pffft. By the 00's Hollywood was in ruins. Pretty much all comic book cgi crap, endless lousy remakes, repetitive comedies, and very little originality.
Admittedly a few gems like There Will be Blood, but they were few and far between.
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 01:35 PM
The Amblin movies of the 80s have there own sort of quality to them, and then they spawned tons of knock offs. They usually followed a pretty typical formula, and while they weren't masterpieces, they knew how to trigger the dopamine. Super8 was a semi recent movie that I really enjoyed that really tapped into it.
I'm a 70s guy. Just more carefully crafted plots and dialogue. And such a dark tone hanging over everything.
Never got into 70's movies (and music for that matter). The undercurrent of Vietnam is ever present. We get it, the war wasn't popular. Too much of the same thing.
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 01:36 PM
And anyway this thread isn't about which era was the best, its about your own personal earliest movie memories. Stick to that please.
West-Side
12-08-2015, 01:39 PM
For comparison sakes;
1990's
The Shawshank Redemption
Schindler's List
Pulp Fiction
Fight Club
Forrest Gump
Goodfellas
The Matrix
Leon
Life is Beautiful
The Usual Suspects
Terminator 2
Seven
The Silence of the Lambs
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Miles
American History X
Braveheart
The Lion King
Reservoir Dogs
Toy Story
Good Will Hunting
Unforgiven
:pimp:
70's is probably the best decade for quality films; there are more memorable films in 00's as well.
But I still love 80's movies, but it's a highly specific era for cinema. It had that unique formula but was EXTREMELY repetitive.
Thorpesaurous
12-08-2015, 01:39 PM
The defining movie of the 80s is probably ET. It hits all the 80s tropes. Family in distress, unlikely intervention, everyone learns a lesson, the kids know more than the adults. A general sense of wonder and spirit and exploration. And it's directed by the defining director of the era.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 01:42 PM
yep Spielberg :bowdown:
Empire of the Sun , another 80s classic, directed by Spielberg
West-Side
12-08-2015, 01:45 PM
The defining movie of the 80s is probably ET. It hits all the 80s tropes. Family in distress, unlikely intervention, everyone learns a lesson, the kids know more than the adults. A general sense of wonder and spirit and exploration. And it's directed by the defining director of the era.
Most memorable to me was the Breakfast Club, Stand By Me & Back To The Future. With Goonies, Karate Kid & The Last Crusade close behind.
I admit I watched all the romantic movies like Can't Buy Me Love, Something Wonderful and Pretty In Pink too. :oldlol:
Never actually was a big fan of E.T. to be honest.
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 01:48 PM
80's Action Movies: First Blood, Rambo II, Rambo 3, Rocky 3, Rocky 4, Commando, Predator, Aliens, Die Hard, Raiders, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Terminator, Lethal Weapon, Death Wish 3, Escape from New York, Beverley Hills Cop, 48 Hrs, Robocop, Top Gun, The Running Man, and so on.
No other decade is messing with that^.
Nanners
12-08-2015, 01:52 PM
Kung Fury (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg) - not actually from the 80s, but does a good job illustrating why the 80s were so bad ass.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 01:54 PM
80's Action Movies: First Blood, Rambo II, Rambo 3, Rocky 3, Rocky 4, Commando, Predator, Aliens, Die Hard, Raiders, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Terminator, Lethal Weapon, Death Wish 3, Escape from New York, Beverley Hills Cop, 48 Hrs, Robocop, Top Gun, The Running Man, and so on.
No other decade is messing with that^.
yeah and I was a child through all this...I just have too many awesome memories attached to this stuff...just impossible for me to say that the 70s are better because of Godfather
West-Side
12-08-2015, 01:57 PM
80's Action Movies: First Blood, Rambo II, Rambo 3, Rocky 3, Rocky 4, Commando, Predator, Aliens, Die Hard, Raiders, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Terminator, Lethal Weapon, Death Wish 3, Escape from New York, Beverley Hills Cop, 48 Hrs, Robocop, Top Gun, The Running Man, and so on.
No other decade is messing with that^.
C'mon, 90's easily compares...just off top of my head.
Terminator 2
Hard-Boiled
The Matrix
Speed
The Legend of Drunken Master
Leon
Bullet in the Head
True Lies
Fist of Legend
The Rock
Total Recall
Heat
Nikita
It's amazing how distinct each decade is though eh?
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 02:02 PM
80s also started the slasher flick craze
Friday 13th
Nightmare on Elm St.
Halloween
:bowdown:
West-Side
12-08-2015, 02:02 PM
yeah and I was a child through all this...I just have too many awesome memories attached to this stuff...just impossible for me to say that the 70s are better because of Godfather
From 1970 to now; no other decade produced more quality movies than the 70's. Most people just can't sit through long movies trying to decipher its dialogue but the 70's is a lot more than just The Godfather.
Star Wars
Jaws
The French Connection
The Exorcist
Taxi Driver
Deer Hunter
Alien
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Chinatown
Rocky
Apocalypse Now
The Sting
The Conversation
Deer Hunter
A Clockwork Orange
Mean Streets
All The President's Men
I'm forgetting a shit load too...
The Holy Grail was in the 70's; Dirty Harry, Superman, Halloween, Willy Wonka, Texas Chainsaw Massacre etc.
Than you had gems like Days of Heaven, Enter the Dragon & Life of Brian.
:pimp:
West-Side
12-08-2015, 02:04 PM
80s also started the slasher flick craze
Friday 13th
Nightmare on Elm St.
Halloween
:bowdown:
Halloween was 1978.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 02:05 PM
Halloween was 1978.
yeah but all good sequels were 80s
cept part 2, that one doesn't count lol
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 02:06 PM
yeah but all good sequels were 80s
cept part 2, that one doesn't count lol
You mean part 3......the different one. :oldlol:
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 02:07 PM
You mean part 3......the different one. :oldlol:
ah yes...that was part 3, not 2
West-Side
12-08-2015, 02:10 PM
I admit, 80's probably had the most memorable movies for me as well. In terms of replay value. They weren't necessarily the best in terms of substance (directing, acting, writing etc.) but they were so much fun to watch.
I guess it's the golden era of popcorn flicks.
And that's not a bad thing at all.
I'm in the mood to watch an entertaining movie far more often than I am in the mood to watch a serious film.
I definitely think I re-watched 80's movies the most, it's not even close.
Gems like Goonies, Karate Kid, Stand By Me, BTTF etc.
I watched over 30 times EASY, more like 50.
T_L_P
12-08-2015, 02:11 PM
All of those movies are pretty good at best. :biggums:
DrakeTheSnake
12-08-2015, 03:17 PM
C'mon, 90's easily compares...just off top of my head.
Terminator 2
Hard-Boiled
The Matrix
Speed
The Legend of Drunken Master
Leon
Bullet in the Head
True Lies
Fist of Legend
The Rock
Total Recall
Heat
Nikita
It's amazing how distinct each decade is though eh?
Though those are all pretty good, only the bold compare to the 80s action movies.
ArbitraryWater
12-08-2015, 03:23 PM
Pffft. By the 00's Hollywood was in ruins. Pretty much all comic book cgi crap, endless lousy remakes, repetitive comedies, and very little originality.
Admittedly a few gems like There Will be Blood, but they were few and far between.
1990's > 1970's > 2010's > 1960's > 2000's > 1980's
West-Side
12-08-2015, 03:42 PM
Though those are all pretty good, only the bold compare to the 80s action movies.
Uhm, Hard-Boiled is considered one of the very best action movies of all-time.
Arbitrary, 2000 > 2010.
I think you forget how many epic movies were directed during our last era; especially from foreign directors.
The Dark Knight
LOTR Trilogy
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Memento
Batman Begins
Almost Famous
The Departed
The Lives Of Others
City Of God
Pan's Labyrinth
Casino Royale
Adaptation
The Hurt Locker
Finding Nemo
Mystic River
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E
Inglorious Basteds
The Prestige
Requiem for a Dream
American Psycho
Ip Man
Battle Royale
The Bourne Identity
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Bourne Ultimatum
Spirited Away
Shaun of the Dead
Catch Me If You Can
Before Sunset
Hot Fuz
Oldboy
Letters from Iwo Jima
500 Days of Summer
Children of Men
Downfall
Infernal Affairs
There are still so many more...
Up, Gladiator, Amelie, District 9, Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon, Hero, Kill Bill Volumes and The Incredibles are all between 2000 & 2009.
I'm forgetting so many more great movies.
No way the first 5 years of 2010 is better.
Not even remotely close.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 03:45 PM
1990's > 1970's > 2010's > 1960's > 2000's > 1980's
You're nuts, You think this current decade > 80s?
this decade will be remembered as the Super-Hero decade
DrakeTheSnake
12-08-2015, 03:49 PM
Uhm, Hard-Boiled is considered one of the very best action movies of all-time.
Arbitrary, 2000 > 2010.
I think you forget how many epic movies were directed during our last era; especially from foreign directors.
The Dark Knight
LOTR Trilogy
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Memento
Batman Begins
Almost Famous
The Departed
The Lives Of Others
City Of God
Pan's Labyrinth
Casino Royale
Adaptation
The Hurt Locker
Finding Nemo
Mystic River
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E
Inglorious Basteds
The Prestige
Requiem for a Dream
American Psycho
Ip Man
Battle Royale
The Bourne Identity
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Bourne Ultimatum
Spirited Away
Shaun of the Dead
Catch Me If You Can
Before Sunset
Hot Fuz
Oldboy
Letters from Iwo Jima
500 Days of Summer
Children of Men
Downfall
Infernal Affairs
There are still so many more...
Up, Gladiator, Amelie, District 9, Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon, Hero, Kill Bill Volumes and The Incredibles are all between 2000 & 2009.
I'm forgetting so many more great movies.
No way the first 5 years of 2010 is better.
Not even remotely close.
Hard-boiled is one of the best choreographed action movies, but it just doesn't register with enough people to be in consideration with the top 80s and 90s action movies.
As for your movies of the 2000s, you just listed every movie ranging from decent to great, even the rarely seen ones that aren't iconic and are really overrated (e.g., boring Mystic River), but you could easily do the same with other decades.
West-Side
12-08-2015, 03:58 PM
You're nuts, You think this current decade > 80s?
this decade will be remembered as the Super-Hero decade
There has been a lot of great movies that were not "super-hero".
Django Unchained
Black Swan
Mad Max: Fury Road
Gravity
Inception
True Grit
Toy Story 3
A Separation
13 Assassins
The Imitation Game
Blue Jasmine
Zero Dark Thirty
Mud
Kingsman: Secret Service
Midnight In Paris
Intouchables
Before Midnight
Incendies
Nebraska
12 Years A Slave
Her
Argo
Silver Linings Playbook
Short Term 12
Prisoners
Star Trek Into Darkness
The Raid 2
Skyfall
The Raid
Gone Girl
The Edge of Tomorrow
The Artist
The Social Network
Nightcrawler
The Hunt
Boyhood
Interstellar
Whiplash
The Wolf of Wall Street
Shutter Island
Looper
The Grand Budapest Hotel
None of them are "super-hero" films.
I'd easily take 10-12 of them and put them in my top 100 all-time list.
The problem is this decade is only half way over, so there's obviously way more great films in the 2000's era, and in the 80's era.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:01 PM
You mean to tell me there are movies that aren't super hero movies? didn't know...
point is, this will still be remembered as the Super Hero decade
West-Side
12-08-2015, 04:01 PM
Hard-boiled is one of the best choreographed action movies, but it just doesn't register with enough people to be in consideration with the top 80s and 90s action movies.
As for your movies of the 2000s, you just listed every movie ranging from decent to great, even the rarely seen ones that aren't iconic and are really overrated (e.g., boring Mystic River), but you could easily do the same with other decades.
Wow, Mystic River is one of my all-time favorites.
I can't believe you're dissing it like that.
That scene where Sean Penn is sitting on his porch and talking to his friend about his daughter. :cry:
One of the most emotional scenes I have ever seen on screen; one of the very best performances I have ever seen by Sean Penn.
I'm not talking about BLOCKBUSTER garbage like Lethal Weapon or Commando or Rambo. Those movies are popcorn flicks. They are very entertaining but in terms of QUALITY action movies; 90's is clearly better.
Was Titanic better than The Shawshank to you?
Since it's far more known and was a much bigger box office hit?
ArbitraryWater
12-08-2015, 04:02 PM
You're nuts, You think this current decade > 80s?
this decade will be remembered as the Super-Hero decade
This decade is pretty damn good... yeah I don't even care too much for the Super Hero stuff, but just look at last year (2014 I mean by that), loaded movie wise... loaded.
^ Mystic River's ending sucked and ruined it
Nanners
12-08-2015, 04:04 PM
a lot of these movies getting listed now are complete shit.
bourne ultamatum? zero dark thirty? the new stark trek???? really?
Styles p
12-08-2015, 04:04 PM
i was born in 88' so i don't remember anything from the 80's but i do love 80's movies. how is dazed and confused not on anyone's 90's list? :confusedshrug:
West-Side
12-08-2015, 04:05 PM
I'll compile a list of the 10 best movies from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90', 00's and 10's.
And you guys can decide which group is the best.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:05 PM
"action" from a technical standpoint probably gets better with time on average...just like special effects
West-Side
12-08-2015, 04:06 PM
i was born in 88' so i don't remember anything from the 80's but i do love 80's movies. how is dazed and confused not on anyone's 90's list? :confusedshrug:
Don't think I've watched a movie from the 90's more than that one. :pimp:
ArbitraryWater
12-08-2015, 04:06 PM
a lot of these movies getting listed now are complete shit.
bourne ultamatum? zero dark thirty? the new stark trek???? really?
that movie didn't suck :wtf:
Now for the others, yeah, no idea why you'd list them...
and top 10 for a whole decade probably isn't enough.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:06 PM
I'll compile a list of the 10 best movies from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90', 00's and 10's.
And you guys can decide which group is the best.
no point, all decades have 10 great movies
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:08 PM
the bulk of movies has increased over time as well....probably 10x more 'A-list' movies will be made this decade vs. 60s
Nanners
12-08-2015, 04:09 PM
"action" from a technical standpoint probably gets better with time on average...just like special effects
definitely true from a purely technical standpoint, but in terms of fun to watch I think 80s action classics like die hard and lethal weapon hold up really well against modern action films.
Styles p
12-08-2015, 04:10 PM
Don't think I've watched a movie from the 90's more than that one. :pimp:
that half baked, reservoir dogs and pulp fiction are probably my favorite 90's movies:rockon: also can't forget mall rats
SugarHill
12-08-2015, 04:11 PM
You're nuts, You think this current decade > 80s?
this decade will be remembered as the Super-Hero decade
this decade is the superhero decade in the same way the 80s was shitty over the top action movie decade
Nanners
12-08-2015, 04:14 PM
that movie didn't suck :wtf:
Now for the others, yeah, no idea why you'd list them...
and top 10 for a whole decade probably isn't enough.
imo the first bourne movie was pretty good, maybe a 7.5/10... the rest were average at best. the shaky cam completely ruined the action sequences.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:15 PM
this decade is the superhero decade in the same way the 80s was shitty over the top action movie decade
shitty over the top action > superheros
:rockon:
Legends66NBA7
12-08-2015, 04:20 PM
2014 was one of the weakest movie years ever. 2015 is one of the strongest movie years ever.
Would like to see what each era provided though. How would we gauge them all ? What would the criteria be like ? Way too subjective really, but it could be fun.
~primetime~
12-08-2015, 04:22 PM
2014 was one of the weakest movie years ever. 2015 is one of the strongest movie years ever.
Would like to see what each era provided though. How would we gauge them all ? What would the criteria be like ? Way too subjective really, but it could be fun.
the only thing we know for scientific fact is that the 80s leads all other decades is raw 'awesomeness' per movie
everything else is subjective
SugarHill
12-08-2015, 04:23 PM
2014 was one of the weakest movie years ever. 2015 is one of the strongest movie years ever.
Would like to see what each era provided though. How would we gauge them all ? What would the criteria be like ? Way too subjective really, but it could be fun.
wait...2014 was weak? 2014 was really strong imo. Actually, when I look at it, every year in the 10s has been really nice. Shaping up to be a great decade for films
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 04:26 PM
All the peeps pushing the 90's have not mentioned Miller's Crossing - imo one of the 10 best movies of that decade. :confusedshrug:
ArbitraryWater
12-08-2015, 04:26 PM
2014 was one of the weakest movie years ever. 2015 is one of the strongest movie years ever.
Would like to see what each era provided though. How would we gauge them all ? What would the criteria be like ? Way too subjective really, but it could be fun.
dafuq
the only thing we know for scientific fact is that the 80s leads all other decades is raw 'awesomeness' per movie
everything else is subjective
lol
I know you know thats faulty reasoning :lol
West-Side
12-08-2015, 04:28 PM
2010 - 2015
Django Unchained
Inside Out
Inception
Toy Story 3
Whiplash
The Wolf Of Wall Street
Interstellar
Boyhood
The Dark Knight Rises
The Hunt
Gone Girl
Prisoners
Her
Incendies
Intouchables
The Winter Soldier
Imitation Game
The Avengers
A Separation
Mad Max: Fury Road
2000 - 2010
LOTR Trilogy
The Dark Knight
Spirited Away
Memento
City of God
Oldboy
Downfall
There Will Be Blood
No Country for Old Men
Gladiator
Wall-E
The Lives Of Others
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige
Amelie
Amores Perros
Mystic River
Inglorious Basteds
Requiem for a Dream
A Beautiful Mind
1990 - 1999
Pulp Fiction
The Shawshank Redemption
The Usual Suspects
The Silence of the Lambs
Schindler's List
Goodfellas
Se7en
Terminator 2
Fight Club
The Matrix
Reservoir Dogs
American Beauty
Saving Private Ryan
Forrest Gump
Heat
American History X
Life Is Beautiful
Leon
The Green Mile
Toy Story
HM: Lion King, Casino, In The Name Of The Father, Trainspotting, Boogie Nights, LA Confidential, The Last of the Mohicans, Good Will Hunting, Miller's Crossing, Donnie Brasco, Braveheart, Fargo, Jurassic Park, The Big Lewbowski, The Sixth Sense, The Insider, The Truman Show, Twelve Monkeys, Magnolia, Toy Story 2. :eek:
So far, the 90's list absolutely annihilates the 00's & 10's.
It's not even comparable, IMO.
The bolded are the five best movies (of that decade), in my opinion.
JohnnySic
12-08-2015, 04:28 PM
the only thing we know for scientific fact is that the 80s leads all other decades is raw 'awesomeness' per movie
everything else is subjective
^THIS.
Legends66NBA7
12-08-2015, 04:31 PM
wait...2014 was weak? 2014 was really strong imo. Actually, when I look at it, every year in the 10s has been really nice. Shaping up to be a great decade for films
Disagree with 2014 being strong, well this is why I said it's all subjective. Wasn't a great selling year and I don't recall any major memorable movie either. I'm not talking about Oscar Bait's either.
The 10's being a strong decade, I agree.
West-Side
12-08-2015, 04:53 PM
1980 - 1989
Blade Runner
The Shinning
Back To The Future
Come and See
Full Metal Jacket
Stand By Me
The Breakfast Club
The Princess Bride
Ran
Paris, Texas
Terminator
Ghostbusters
Star Wars (Return of the Jedi & Empire Strikes Back)
Die Hard
Aliens
Platoon
Once Upon A Time In America
Das Boot
Raging Bull
Honestly, the 80's pales in comparison to the 90's and I don't think it's even as good as the 2000's.
Raging Bulls & Come and See are probably my favorite movies of the 90's.
West-Side
12-08-2015, 05:00 PM
1970 - 1979
The Godfather - Part I & II
Taxi Driver
Jaws
Manhattan
The Exorcist
A Clockwork Orange
Apocalypse Now
One Flew Over...
Chinatown
Star Wars
Network
Deer Hunter
Patton
Rocky
The Holy Grail
Barry Lyndon
All The President's Men
The Conformist
Network
The Conversation
:bowdown:
West-Side
12-08-2015, 05:12 PM
1960 - 1969
To Kill A Mockingbird
Psycho
2001
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
Dr. Strangelove
Lawrence of Arabia
Once Upon A Time In The West
The Great Escape
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Cool Hand Luke
Andrei Rublev
Yojimbo
The Apartment
Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
The Manchurian Candidate
Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?
Persona
8 1/2
The Hustler
The Graduate
DrakeTheSnake
12-08-2015, 10:39 PM
1980 - 1989
Blade Runner
The Shinning
Back To The Future
Come and See
Full Metal Jacket
Stand By Me
The Breakfast Club
The Princess Bride
Ran
Paris, Texas
Terminator
Ghostbusters
Star Wars (Return of the Jedi & Empire Strikes Back)
Die Hard
Aliens
Platoon
Once Upon A Time In America
Das Boot
Raging Bull
Honestly, the 80's pales in comparison to the 90's and I don't think it's even as good as the 2000's.
Raging Bulls & Come and See are probably my favorite movies of the 90's.
80s only looks bad because you highlighted the wrong movies. Aliens, Die Hard, Back to the Future, Star Wars, and Terminator should be highlighted.
Hell, you've insanely managed to leave Predator off the list completely.
DrakeTheSnake
12-08-2015, 10:52 PM
Jesus, no Robocop either?
Nanners
12-09-2015, 02:13 AM
80s only looks bad because you highlighted the wrong movies. Aliens, Die Hard, Back to the Future, Star Wars, and Terminator should be highlighted.
Hell, you've insanely managed to leave Predator off the list completely.
he left off a ton of great 80s movies
Raiders and Temple of Doom, ET, Rambo, Scarface, Lethal Weapon, Goonies, Ferris Buelers day off, American Warewolf in London, The Fly.....
fsvr54
12-09-2015, 02:43 AM
Everything John Carpenter did in the 80s was gold. The Thing is an absolute masterpiece of the highest caliber.
A few great 80s movies that haven't been mentioned:
Walker
Society
Street Trash
Fright Night
Repo Man
From Beyond
DrakeTheSnake
12-09-2015, 08:57 AM
^ Good points. I think we can safely disregard West-Side's opinion on the matter.
StephHamann
12-09-2015, 09:02 AM
ROBOCOP is the best movie of the 80s!
ROCSteady
12-09-2015, 09:13 AM
Uhm, Hard-Boiled is considered one of the very best action movies of all-time.
Arbitrary, 2000 > 2010.
I think you forget how many epic movies were directed during our last era; especially from foreign directors.
The Dark Knight
LOTR Trilogy
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Memento
Batman Begins
Almost Famous
The Departed
The Lives Of Others
City Of God
Pan's Labyrinth
Casino Royale
Adaptation
The Hurt Locker
Finding Nemo
Mystic River
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E
Inglorious Basteds
The Prestige
Requiem for a Dream
American Psycho
Ip Man
Battle Royale
The Bourne Identity
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Bourne Ultimatum
Spirited Away
Shaun of the Dead
Catch Me If You Can
Before Sunset
Hot Fuz
Oldboy
Letters from Iwo Jima
500 Days of Summer
Children of Men
Downfall
Infernal Affairs
There are still so many more...
Up, Gladiator, Amelie, District 9, Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon, Hero, Kill Bill Volumes and The Incredibles are all between 2000 & 2009.
I'm forgetting so many more great movies.
No way the first 5 years of 2010 is better.
Not even remotely close.
This post screams that you Googled 'Top Movies Lists' of each decade and re-packaged them as your personal taste.
West-Side
12-09-2015, 11:29 AM
80's have a lot of memorable movies, that are feel good and inspiring.
They have a ton of cheesy action and gory horror flicks.
I'm not surprised that many of you love that decade.
However, in terms of quality films; it's probably the worst decade.
The fact that people are mentioning popcorn flicks like Robocop & Predator, only confirms how poor that decade was.
I totally forgot to include Raiders of the Last Ark & The Last Crusade; two incredible films. Easily top 100 of all-time on my list.
West-Side
12-09-2015, 11:34 AM
he left off a ton of great 80s movies
Raiders and Temple of Doom, ET, Rambo, Scarface, Lethal Weapon, Goonies, Ferris Buelers day off, American Warewolf in London, The Fly.....
You have to be kidding me. :roll:
ROCSteady
12-09-2015, 11:38 AM
The Fly is a masterful achievement in film.
One of the most affective movies ever made. Certainly one of the 80s best movies
~primetime~
12-09-2015, 11:41 AM
I'm not sure why Temple of Doom gets hate...it's actually my favorite Indiana Jones flick...love that movie
Nanners
12-09-2015, 11:56 AM
You have to be kidding me. :roll:
I said the same thing when I saw you listing complete shit movies like zero dark thirty and star trek into darkness :oldlol:
ROCSteady
12-09-2015, 12:05 PM
I said the same thing when I saw you listing complete shit movies like zero dark thirty and star trek into darkness :oldlol:
Hey now, West Side thinks Avengers and Winter Soldier are up there as some of the best of the last five years.
Boyhood is also not deserving of that prestige and as much as I like Django, it has too many issues to be considered one of the best this decade.
Basically his list for this decade leaves a lot to be desired
Nanners
12-09-2015, 12:18 PM
Hey now, West Side thinks Avengers and Winter Soldier are up there as some of the best five years.
Boyhood is also not deserving of that prestige and as much as I like Django, it has too many issues to be considered one of the best this decade.
Basically his list for this decade leaves a lot to be desired
:oldlol:
winter soldier is a good film but lethal weapon isnt?
im too old for this shit
DrakeTheSnake
12-09-2015, 12:43 PM
80's have a lot of memorable movies, that are feel good and inspiring.
They have a ton of cheesy action and gory horror flicks.
I'm not surprised that many of you love that decade.
However, in terms of quality films; it's probably the worst decade.
The fact that people are mentioning popcorn flicks like Robocop & Predator, only confirms how poor that decade was.
I totally forgot to include Raiders of the Last Ark & The Last Crusade; two incredible films. Easily top 100 of all-time on my list.
It isn't all about Oscar style movies. You mentioned with later decades so many movies that are just meh and forgettable, though watchable. 80s is filled with movies that stood the test of time, are unforgettable, and can be rewatched numerous times.
ROCSteady
12-09-2015, 12:52 PM
Robocop and Starship Troopers (even though that's a 90s joint) were more like hyper satires with action than popcorn flicks
ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 01:13 PM
1980 is still the 'worst'decade imo, just nostalgia for the 80s peeps.
Nanners
12-09-2015, 01:20 PM
80s movies were bad ass and I have scientific facts to prove it
exhibit A - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2F0Cl3fMds&index=32&list=LLHUrCbytj0zJfD8nmYOiF0w
DrakeTheSnake
12-09-2015, 01:21 PM
1980 is still the 'worst'decade imo, just nostalgia for the 80s peeps.
Time to go to your timeout corner.
Tarik One
12-09-2015, 01:45 PM
ROBOCOP is the best movie of the 80s!
Definitely a top "rewatchable" movie.
StephHamann
12-09-2015, 02:03 PM
Robocop and Starship Troopers (even though that's a 90s joint) were more like hyper satires with action than popcorn flicks
Only idiots think those are popcorn movies.
I mean loke at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmEiSSiiwKE :oldlol:
West-Side
12-09-2015, 02:49 PM
Last I checked evaluating movies is a science. *rolls eyes*
You guys are complete dipshits, nothing new on this forum.
Naming popcorn flicks like Robocop, Lethal Weapon and ET; yet trashing movies like Avengers. :facepalm
They are made from the same cloth.
They are all blockbuster movies whose purpose is to entertain the viewers.
Arbitrary is right, you guys are all about nostalgia.
You guys are trashing movies like Winter Soldier & Avengers, yet both movies were a huge success in theaters.
Then you idiots proceed to claim that Predator, ET, Goonies (:facepalm ), or Lethal Weapon are so much better. Their intention is to be entertaining, they aren't some academy award films.
Heck, pretty sure both the general public and critics gave higher scores to Winter Soldier AND Avengers than any of those movies.
StephHamann
12-09-2015, 02:51 PM
You guys are trashing movies like Winter Soldier & Avengers, yet both movies were a huge success in theaters.
Good argument, would read again.
SugarHill
12-09-2015, 02:55 PM
Good argument, would read again.
They received critical acclaim too. You could just say all superhero films are inherently shit and no matter what anyone says they won't convince you that they're good films but the majority of critics and people actually did find them enjoyable. Personally, I didn't really care for Avengers outside a couple nice action scenes but Winter Soldier is a really nice film. I don't see what's the issue with thinking it's better than a Lethal Weapon outside nostalgia tbh
West-Side
12-09-2015, 02:57 PM
It isn't all about Oscar style movies. You mentioned with later decades so many movies that are just meh and forgettable, though watchable. 80s is filled with movies that stood the test of time, are unforgettable, and can be rewatched numerous times.
Well you clearly evaluate movies differently than I do.
Which is why I think the 90's is by far the best decade.
It had movies that won academy awards WHILE being unforgettable, and have to this day; stood the test of time.
I definitely think the movies from the 80's & 90's are the MOST televised movies on television to this day. They are just so many classics out there. 80's had A LOT of re-watchable movies, which is perhaps why you guys are so eager to praise that decade.
However, when I list the best 20 movies; I'm talking about the whole package. I take into account the movies dialogue, acting, directing etc.
Not just rewatchability.
That's the parameter that the 80's is most known for.
A lot of cult classics like The Breakfast Club & Fast Times At Ridgemont High were introduced to us during that era, but they aren't on a tier of Pulp Fiction, Godfather, Goodfellas, Citizen Kane, LOTR, Interstellar etc.
Not even remotely close.
StephHamann
12-09-2015, 02:58 PM
They received critical acclaim too. You could just say all superhero films are inherently shit and no matter what anyone says they won't convince you that they're good films but the majority of critics and people actually did find them enjoyable. Personally, I didn't really care for Avengers outside a couple nice action scenes but Winter Soldier is a really nice film. I don't see what's the issue with thinking it's better than a Lethal Weapon outside nostalgia tbh
I liked Avengers, but it's not comparable to Robocop.
That's like saying Star Wars is in the same categorie as 2001 Space Odyssey.
West-Side
12-09-2015, 03:00 PM
Good argument, would read again.
Winter Soldier
89% - critic
92% - audience
[Rt]
7.8
[IMDB]
Lethal Weapon
84% - critic
85% - audience
[Rt]
7.6
[IMDB]
SugarHill
12-09-2015, 03:02 PM
I liked Avengers, but it's not comparable to Robocop.
That's like saying Star Wars is in the same categorie as 2001 Space Odyssey.
And Robocop isn't comparable to District 9 or Children of Men. What is the point here?
West-Side
12-09-2015, 03:04 PM
I liked Avengers, but it's not comparable to Robocop.
That's like saying Star Wars is in the same categorie as 2001 Space Odyssey.
Pretty sure I put "in my opinion" when I did those top movie lists.
Yet I see a number of posters trashing my opinion.
Then the same people are proceeding to name shit (or overrated) movies from the 80's that are supposedly better than movies that were actually rated higher by both audience and critics alike.
:rolleyes:
StephHamann
12-09-2015, 03:05 PM
Pretty sure I put "in my opinion" when I did those top movie lists.
Yet I see a number of posters trashing my opinion.
Then the same people are proceeding to tell me shit (or overrated) movies from the 80's that are supposedly better than movies that were actually rated higher by both audience and critics alike.
:rolleyes:
I don't care how you list them, but Robocop is not a popcorn movie. That's all i wanted to say.
SugarHill
12-09-2015, 03:09 PM
I don't care how you list them, but Robocop is not a popcorn movie. That's all i wanted to say.
They remade that shit and turned it into a popcorn film for this era so you might be onto something :coleman:
Legends66NBA7
12-09-2015, 03:13 PM
Winter Soldier
89% - critic
92% - audience
[Rt]
7.8
[IMDB]
Lethal Weapon
84% - critic
85% - audience
[Rt]
7.6
[IMDB]
RT: 253 reviews for WS vs 51 reviews for LH
IMDB: 424,098 for LH vs 181,632 for LH
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843866/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093409/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt
^^Although that's a better indicator.
By the way, I do think Winter Soldier is better and is better than a lot of people are giving it credit for. It's just hard to compare it older movies because the reviews aren't the same volume.
West-Side
12-09-2015, 04:40 PM
RT: 253 reviews for WS vs 51 reviews for LH
IMDB: 424,098 for LH vs 181,632 for LH
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843866/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093409/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt
^^Although that's a better indicator.
By the way, I do think Winter Soldier is better and is better than a lot of people are giving it credit for. It's just hard to compare it older movies because the reviews aren't the same volume.
You do realize you just made Lethal Weapon seem worse, right?
It has a lower score across the board while receiving less reviews.
Everyone knows, the more reviews a movie receives, the lesser its score becomes.
Almost every movie is like that; Dark Knight was rated at like 9.5 initially and maintained a lead over The Godfather for a few months until the reviews accumulated, eventually it rounded off at 8.8 or something like that. Where it stands today.
I would much rather watch Winter Soldier than Lethal Weapon.
JohnnySic
12-09-2015, 05:49 PM
Just dropped into my thread to say that the 80's also had arguably the best children's movies - The Neverending Story, E.T., Labyrinth, The Princess Bride, Willow, The Goonies, Gremlins, The Land Before Time, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, The Little Mermaid, A Christmas Story, An American Tale, The Last Unicorn, The Monster Squad, Stand By Me.....
Just something about the 80's, ya know. Cant beat 'em. :pimp:
Nanners
12-09-2015, 06:52 PM
Pretty sure I put "in my opinion" when I did those top movie lists.
Yet I see a number of posters trashing my opinion.
Then the same people are proceeding to name shit (or overrated) movies from the 80's that are supposedly better than movies that were actually rated higher by both audience and critics alike.
:rolleyes:
saying "in my opinion" doesnt make your posts immune from criticism. if you are going to claim that crap like star trek into darkness is a good movie, people are going to trash your opinion.
also it seems pretty hypocritical for you to cry about people trashing your opinion when you seem to have no problem trashing the opinions of others posting in this thread
ROCSteady
12-09-2015, 08:33 PM
Nobody even flat out said Winter Soldier and Avengers were shit movies, nobody's trashing them.
It's just curious how often you use that dumb rolling laugh emoticon to prop up your dumb opinions and then say movies like that are amongst the greatest of the last 5 years.
Earlier you used some internet list as 'proof' of how the 2000's were amazing (which they were), call Predator and Robocop 'popcorn movies' despite Robocop having far more going on satirically and thematically than a standard popcorn movie, only to have your personal list of this decade for the best movies to have BONA FIDE popcorn movies like Avengers and Winter Soldier.
All the while trying to condescend the opinions of others, not that even bothers anybody.
It's very . . . curious
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 10:14 AM
You do realize you just made Lethal Weapon seem worse, right?
It has a lower score across the board while receiving less reviews.
Everyone knows, the more reviews a movie receives, the lesser its score becomes.
Almost every movie is like that; Dark Knight was rated at like 9.5 initially and maintained a lead over The Godfather for a few months until the reviews accumulated, eventually it rounded off at 8.8 or something like that. Where it stands today.
I would much rather watch Winter Soldier than Lethal Weapon.
To be fair, Winter Soldier is probably the best of Marvel's 10 or so movie attempts.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 10:40 AM
saying "in my opinion" doesnt make your posts immune from criticism. if you are going to claim that crap like star trek into darkness is a good movie, people are going to trash your opinion.
also it seems pretty hypocritical for you to cry about people trashing your opinion when you seem to have no problem trashing the opinions of others posting in this thread
Uhm, go refresh your memory.
I started to defend my opinion the minute idiots like you started to chirp in; claiming there's no way overrated movies like ET, Predator etc. are worse than Avengers and Winter Soldier.
Fact is, you guys are getting butt hurt because I don't consider movies like Robocop, Lethal Weapon, ET, and Predator as one of the 20 best from the 80's.
Both critics and audience actually consider both Avengers and Winter Soldier as better movies than ALL of those mentioned.
But whatever, shove that nostalgia up your asses.
I really could care less; it's not like I don't enjoy all of those movies. I just wouldn't consider any of them as the 20 best movies from the 80's, except maybe Robocop.
A movie like E.T. is the poster of the 80's cinema, however, I just find it overrated and as such have to be honest to my opinion.
Nanners
12-10-2015, 11:31 AM
Uhm, go refresh your memory.
I started to defend my opinion the minute idiots like you started to chirp in; claiming there's no way overrated movies like ET, Predator etc. are worse than Avengers and Winter Soldier.
Fact is, you guys are getting butt hurt because I don't consider movies like Robocop, Lethal Weapon, ET, and Predator as one of the 20 best from the 80's.
Both critics and audience actually consider both Avengers and Winter Soldier as better movies than ALL of those mentioned.
But whatever, shove that nostalgia up your asses.
I really could care less; it's not like I don't enjoy all of those movies. I just wouldn't consider any of them as the 20 best movies from the 80's, except maybe Robocop.
A movie like E.T. is the poster of the 80's cinema, however, I just find it overrated and as such have to be honest to my opinion.
:oldlol:
so salty
its pretty obvious that the only person here who is butthurt is you
anyway, my opinion is that anybody who puts dime a dozen popcorn bullshit like winter soldier over classics like robocop, ET and lethal weapon has shitty taste in movies.
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 11:37 AM
:oldlol:
so salty
its pretty obvious that the only person here who is butthurt is you
anyway, my opinion is that anybody who puts dime a dozen popcorn bullshit like winter soldier over classics like robocop, ET and lethal weapon has shitty taste in movies.
I've never seen somebody so angry and such a hater about an entire decade of movies.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 12:29 PM
:oldlol:
so salty
its pretty obvious that the only person here who is butthurt is you
anyway, my opinion is that anybody who puts dime a dozen popcorn bullshit like winter soldier over classics like robocop, ET and lethal weapon has shitty taste in movies.
Oh the hypocrisy is strong in this post.
Robocop
88% - critics [Rt]
83% - audience [Rt]
7.5 - IMDB
Lethal Weapon
84% - critic [Rt]
85% - audience [Rt]
7.6 - IMDB
E.T.
98% - critic
71% - audience
7.9 - MDB [240k]
Winter Soldier
89% - critic
92% - audience
7.8 - IMDB [424k]
Let this sink in.
You're saying my opinion is worthless yet Winter Soldier is viewed as a better film by both critics and audience than Robocop & Lethal Weapon and is comparable to E.T.
It has almost double the vote count and yet is only behind .1 point.
Again, if we're going to debate about which movie is better; it's a pretty good argument to bring up what OTHERS think of each respective movie.
"But but but but, E.T & Robocop are classics...I don't care what others think, I love my 80's movies. You're an idiot for even comparing them to shit like Winter Soldier."
~primetime~
12-10-2015, 12:36 PM
Winter Soldier is just another Avengers flick...it might be one of the better ones, but it isn't iconic like those others mentioned, you can't quote Winter Soldier and have people know WTF you are talking about...everyone knows "phone home"..."I'm too old for this shit"...etc etc
E.T. in particular is a Spielberg classic...it won Oscars for fck's sake...Winter Soldier isn't on it's level at all
Nanners
12-10-2015, 12:38 PM
nobody gives a shit about imdb scores. :oldlol:
bottom line is that if you think winter soldier is a better film than classics like ET and Robocop you have shitty taste in movies, and I am guessing that the majority of people who have posted in this thread would agree with me on this. no amount of imdb score copy-pasting will make me think winter soldier was better than ET.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 12:42 PM
Eh, I think it's one of Spielberg's worst movies personally.
I actually thought Winter Soldier was an excellent movie; from top to bottom. Way better than the 1st one.
JohnnySic
12-10-2015, 12:44 PM
My thread has taken an ugly turn. http://www.allsmileys.com/files/smiley-central-everyday/4225.gif
West-Side
12-10-2015, 12:44 PM
nobody gives a shit about imdb scores. :oldlol:
bottom line is that if you think winter soldier is a better film than classics like ET and Robocop you have shitty taste in movies, and I am guessing that the majority of people who have posted in this thread would agree with me on this. no amount of imdb score copy-pasting will make me think winter soldier was better than ET.
Than STFU and stop replying.
Oh let me guess, all those people voted have an agenda against you, right?
They purposely voted WS higher because of our argument.
You're such a **** honestly.
"I don't care what IMDB scores are"... what are you 10?
It's scores given by people who watched the movies. :oldlol:
So I guess an opinion of ONE (you) is more relevant than opinions of thousands.
Nanners
12-10-2015, 12:46 PM
meltdown :oldlol:
bottom line is that if you think winter soldier is a better film than classics like ET and Robocop you have shitty taste in movies, and I am guessing that the majority of people who have posted in this thread would agree with me on this. no amount of imdb score copy-pasting will make me think winter soldier was better than ET.
Let this sink in.
You're saying my opinion is worthless yet Winter Soldier is viewed as a better film by both critics and audience than Robocop & Lethal Weapon and is comparable to E.T.
On Rotten Tomatoes E.T. averages a 9.2 from critics and Winter Soldier a 7.5.
How you think that score is "comparable" is beyond me.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 12:52 PM
On Rotten Tomatoes E.T. averages a 9.2 from critics and Winter Soldier a 7.5.
How you think that score is "comparable" is beyond me.
:facepalm
Yet is rated 3.5/5 by the audience; compared to Winter Soldier's 4.3/5.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 12:53 PM
meltdown :oldlol:
bottom line is that if you think winter soldier is a better film than classics like ET and Robocop you have shitty taste in movies, and I am guessing that the majority of people who have posted in this thread would agree with me on this. no amount of imdb score copy-pasting will make me think winter soldier was better than ET.
So because 5-6 people in this thread agree with your opinion, it means the thousands of other opinions are irrelevant?
K, bye.
:facepalm
Yet is rated 3.5/5 by the audience; compared to Winter Soldier's 4.3/5.
You can facepalm all you want, but you clearly said that E.T. and Winter Soldier had comparable critics ratings when that's just not true. They are multiple tiers apart on RT.
If you like those superhero movies and stuff that's fine, no skin off my back.
Nanners
12-10-2015, 12:55 PM
So because 5-6 people in this thread agree with your opinion, it means the thousands of other opinions are irrelevant?
K, bye.
you can frame things however you want but the bottom line is that any person who thinks winter soldier is better than ET has shitty taste in movies.
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 12:57 PM
Than STFU and stop replying.
Oh let me guess, all those people voted have an agenda against you, right?
They purposely voted WS higher because of our argument.
You're such a **** honestly.
"I don't care what IMDB scores are"... what are you 10?
It's scores given by people who watched the movies. :oldlol:
So I guess an opinion of ONE (you) is more relevant than opinions of thousands.
I would say there is probably a recency effect in play. People loved Avatar when it came out too, which probably inflated its IMDB scores, but over time people have generally turned on that movie, yet the scores on IMDB and RT are still high because nobody is going back and changing them. The 80s movies also probably had a dip over time. This decrease over time impacts the scores of 80s movies because the initial internet scores are after people rewatched them and had that dip, while modern movies are not scored decades after their releases, but rather while people are actively hyped.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:00 PM
I would say there is probably a recency effect in play. People loved Avatar when it came out too, which probably inflated its IMDB scores, but over time people have generally turned on that movie, yet the scores on IMDB and RT are still high because nobody is going back and changing them. The 80s movies also probably had a dip over time. This decrease over time impacts the scores of 80s movies because the initial internet scores are after people rewatched them and had that dip, while modern movies are not scored decades after their releases, but rather while people are actively hyped.
Recency effect only applies for the first few months on sites like IMDB.
Winter Soldier already received like 420k+ reviews.
It won't get many more so the score will stay as is.
Same thing happened to Inception and The Dark Knight, they were both #1 rated films for the first 4-5 months and then fall off. That score to this day is pretty much the same, maybe .1 down.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:00 PM
you can frame things however you want but the bottom line is that any person who thinks winter soldier is better than ET has shitty taste in movies.
My point is simple; MANY people actually do.
So I guess in your condescending way, you think your opinion matters more than thousands of others.
Great.
PS- I have absolutely no problem if anyone thinks LW, Robocop & ET are better movies than Winter Soldier. I just don't think any of them are. Besides maybe Robocop, but its been awhile since I watched Robocop.
Nanners
12-10-2015, 01:03 PM
oh please, the same clown who was posting shit like this earlier is calling me condescending now?
Last I checked evaluating movies is a science. *rolls eyes*
You guys are complete dipshits, nothing new on this forum.
Naming popcorn flicks like Robocop, Lethal Weapon and ET; yet trashing movies like Avengers. :facepalm
They are made from the same cloth.
They are all blockbuster movies whose purpose is to entertain the viewers.
Arbitrary is right, you guys are all about nostalgia.
You guys are trashing movies like Winter Soldier & Avengers, yet both movies were a huge success in theaters.
Then you idiots proceed to claim that Predator, ET, Goonies (:facepalm ), or Lethal Weapon are so much better. Their intention is to be entertaining, they aren't some academy award films.
Heck, pretty sure both the general public and critics gave higher scores to Winter Soldier AND Avengers than any of those movies.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:03 PM
You can facepalm all you want, but you clearly said that E.T. and Winter Soldier had comparable critics ratings when that's just not true. They are multiple tiers apart on RT.
If you like those superhero movies and stuff that's fine, no skin off my back.
You do realize there are different parameters right?
The votes of critics (roughly 60 to 240 reviews) and audience (thousands of reviews).
You're right though, they are comparable; thousands of people actually think Winter Solider shits all over E.T. according to Rt.
You do realize there are different parameters right?
The votes of critics (roughly 60 to 240 reviews) and audience (thousands of reviews).
You're right though, they are comparable; thousands of people actually think Winter Solider shits all over E.T. according to Rt.
So don't say critics think they are comparable when that's not true, then.
~primetime~
12-10-2015, 01:05 PM
I would say there is probably a recency effect in play. People loved Avatar when it came out too, which probably inflated its IMDB scores, but over time people have generally turned on that movie, yet the scores on IMDB and RT are still high because nobody is going back and changing them. The 80s movies also probably had a dip over time. This decrease over time impacts the scores of 80s movies because the initial internet scores are after people rewatched them and had that dip, while modern movies are not scored decades after their releases, but rather while people are actively hyped.
Avatar is actually UNDER-rated now, everyone hates on it, and it isn't THAT bad at all.
Yeah, same general theme as Last of the Mohicans, and a couple of the characters and dialog were typical and generic, but there is some great stuff in that movie. The war scene was fantastic, the action in general is great.
Avatar is still a very "good" movie.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:07 PM
oh please, the same clown who was posting shit like this earlier is calling me condescending now?
You really are a brainless moron.
That post was made AFTER idiots like you started attacking my own opinion.
I made that posts after reading the idiotic posts you and others were making; trashing my opinion for like Winter Soldier and not thinking Robocop & ET were top 20.
You guys proceeded to trash that view and I provided some facts to the table. Showing you how the consensus from the general public is that Winter Solider is a better film than Robocop & LW; and is comparable to E.T.
But what do I know; those thousands of people are all idiots too.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:08 PM
So don't say critics think they are comparable when that's not true, then.
Uhm, they are comparable because Winter Soldier has a lopsided edge in audience scores and E.T. has a lopsided score from critics.
I didn't think I had to add 2 & 2 together, for you to understand what I meant.
I guess I was wrong.
Nanners
12-10-2015, 01:09 PM
You really are a brainless moron.
i guess that makes two of us
That post was made AFTER idiots like you started attacking my own opinion.
heres your very first post in this thread
What are you people are even talking about?
80's was a weak ass era for movies compared to the 90's, 60's, 70s and even 00s.
:roll:
nope, not condescending at all to walk into a happy discussion about 80s movies and tell everyone they are wrong
I guess I was wrong and I lied.
True.
West-Side
12-10-2015, 01:22 PM
i guess that makes two of us
heres your very first post in this thread
nope, not condescending at all to walk into a happy discussion about 80s movies and tell everyone they are wrong
You are comparing that post to calling my taste in movies "shitty" because I left off Robocop but included Winter Soldier?
Despite not realizing that Winter Soldier has a 5 year gap and Robocop had a 10 year gap?
Pretty sure I didn't come into this thread calling everyone's opinion "shitty" and proceeding to use words like "disregard his opinion". :rolleyes:
ROCSteady
12-10-2015, 01:25 PM
Winter Soldier doesn't belong on a five year list either. Nor does Avengers.
But hey, screw those popcorn movies, right? You take all the artistic sensibilities into account, isn't that your MO for best movies?
You said so a few pages back
Nanners
12-10-2015, 01:27 PM
You are comparing that post to calling my taste in movies "shitty" because I left off Robocop but included Winter Soldier?
Despite not realizing that Winter Soldier has a 5 year gap and Robocop had a 10 year gap?
Pretty sure I didn't come into this thread calling everyone's opinion "shitty" and proceeding to use words like "disregard his opinion". :rolleyes:
bitch please, your very first post in this thread was telling everyone they are full of shit with a rolling laugh emoticon. thats not condescending?
and for the record, i didnt call anyones opinion shitty until someone went and said that star trek into darkness is a good movie
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 02:03 PM
Recency effect only applies for the first few months on sites like IMDB.
Winter Soldier already received like 420k+ reviews.
It won't get many more so the score will stay as is.
Same thing happened to Inception and The Dark Knight, they were both #1 rated films for the first 4-5 months and then fall off. That score to this day is pretty much the same, maybe .1 down.
Right, but that first few months of boosted ratings really inflates scores of modern movies, while 80s movies didn't get those first few months of a recency boost on websites.
Shade8780
12-10-2015, 02:55 PM
non-80s posters will never understand how awesome the 80s were
lol
people in 10 years will say "non-00s posters will never understand how awesome the 00s were", and so on.
it's called your childhood.
~primetime~
12-10-2015, 02:58 PM
lol
people in 10 years will say "non-00s posters will never understand how awesome the 00s were", and so on.
it's called your childhood.
But I can see what 00s kids are experiencing, I'm here too.
iamgine
12-10-2015, 03:03 PM
But I can see what 00s kids are experiencing, I'm here too.
thru adult colored glasses.
lol
people in 10 years will say "non-00s posters will never understand how awesome the 00s were", and so on.
it's called your childhood.
Seeing you are an actual 00s-10s kid, I trust your judgement in this.
4 Inches
12-10-2015, 03:26 PM
lol My mum grew up in the 80s and she said it wasn't that great
West-Side
12-10-2015, 03:58 PM
Right, but that first few months of boosted ratings really inflates scores of modern movies, while 80s movies didn't get those first few months of a recency boost on websites.
Not really, the early reviews usually come from BIG FANS of the movies. They are usually first to watch those movies and therefore explains the positive initial reviews. Later on, as more reviews come in; the average score rounds off to where it should be.
Winter Soldier rounded off to 7.8 with 420,000 reviews.
It was really high for the first three months post-release because many fans of the movie went to see it first-hand and you simply saw their reviews first.
With older movies like E.T., you STILL have those fans. You'll still have people like you who loves a particular 80's movie and you'll leave a positive review. It just occurs at random, not up front because of the age of the movie.
The two distinct differences between an 80's movie and a today's movie;
1) The reviews come at random for 80's movies because the movie was already released.
2) There are far less reviews for 80's movies.
But, in the long-term, the averages round off because ultimately you have both sides of the spectrum; those huge fans of the movie and random people seeing it for the first time. Even if your theory has some form of relevance, it is extremely minor.
The only thing 80's move DO have an advantage in is the fact that they are old and have less reviews about them. It's a known fact that everything that is reviewed online tends to have a downward slope as more reviews come in.
Plus, your theory losses validity the minute I list you the top 250 movies on IMDB's website and over 80% of them are before 2000.
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 05:20 PM
lol My mum grew up in the 80s and she said it wasn't that great
I'm sorry you have such a terrible mum.
DrakeTheSnake
12-10-2015, 05:23 PM
Not really, the early reviews usually come from BIG FANS of the movies. They are usually first to watch those movies and therefore explains the positive initial reviews. Later on, as more reviews come in; the average score rounds off to where it should be.
Winter Soldier rounded off to 7.8 with 420,000 reviews.
It was really high for the first three months post-release because many fans of the movie went to see it first-hand and you simply saw their reviews first.
With older movies like E.T., you STILL have those fans. You'll still have people like you who loves a particular 80's movie and you'll leave a positive review. It just occurs at random, not up front because of the age of the movie.
The two distinct differences between an 80's movie and a today's movie;
1) The reviews come at random for 80's movies because the movie was already released.
2) There are far less reviews for 80's movies.
But, in the long-term, the averages round off because ultimately you have both sides of the spectrum; those huge fans of the movie and random people seeing it for the first time. Even if your theory has some form of relevance, it is extremely minor.
The only thing 80's move DO have an advantage in is the fact that they are old and have less reviews about them. It's a known fact that everything that is reviewed online tends to have a downward slope as more reviews come in.
Plus, your theory losses validity the minute I list you the top 250 movies on IMDB's website and over 80% of them are before 2000.
The bold is probably because there are more movies before 2000, and arguably actually better due to more originality and less Hollywood cash grabs.
The 70s and earlier films were mostly more serious or so experimental that storytelling on film wasn't perfected (usually the even older movies). The 80s was when there was actually investment in movies for all, which led to a flood of original ideas. 90s Hollywood started taking over, but independent films picked up the slack of originality, with Hollywood trying to incorporate some independent style film directors into Hollywood budgets in the late 90s (e.g., Fight Club), but by the 2000s it became more about "what would make the most money" rather than "what would make the best film," leading to an increase in remakes, reboots, and sequels that lacked originality, and fit a formula that works for profit. Of course every decade has its hits, but the last 15 year have been over saturated with throw away cash grabs that fit the money making formula. Avengers and the related movies are fine, but certainly fit that formula, which to me lowers the overall quality.
West-Side
12-11-2015, 10:02 AM
The bold is probably because there are more movies before 2000, and arguably actually better due to more originality and less Hollywood cash grabs.
The 70s and earlier films were mostly more serious or so experimental that storytelling on film wasn't perfected (usually the even older movies). The 80s was when there was actually investment in movies for all, which led to a flood of original ideas. 90s Hollywood started taking over, but independent films picked up the slack of originality, with Hollywood trying to incorporate some independent style film directors into Hollywood budgets in the late 90s (e.g., Fight Club), but by the 2000s it became more about "what would make the most money" rather than "what would make the best film," leading to an increase in remakes, reboots, and sequels that lacked originality, and fit a formula that works for profit. Of course every decade has its hits, but the last 15 year have been over saturated with throw away cash grabs that fit the money making formula. Avengers and the related movies are fine, but certainly fit that formula, which to me lowers the overall quality.
Uhm, here are some facts for you.
It will prove to you that there is absolutely no bias from the reviewers on a site like IMDB.
From 1970 to 1979; 1084 total U.S. movies were released.
From 1980 to 1989; 1601 total U.S. movies were released.
From 1990 to 1999; 2312 total U.S. movies were released.
From 2000 to 2015; 4684 total U.S. movies were released.
You can use this link to verify those numbers.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls057823854/?start=1&view=detail&sort=release_date_us:asc&defaults=1&scb=0.762388858012855
On the right hand side, simply select the range and it will display how many titles were released during that time frame [out of 9971 total released].
From 70 - 79; 1.85% of the movies made the top 250 list
From 80 - 89; 1.81% of the movies made the top 250 list
From 90 - 99; 1.77% of the movies made the top 250 list
From 00 - 15; 1.71% of the movies made the top 250 list
The reason I am showing you these statistics is to disapprove you belief of this so called "recency effect" you claim.
From 70 - 79; 20 movies made the top 250 list
From 80 - 89; 29 movies made the top 250 list
From 90 - 99; 41 movies made the top 250 list
From 00 - 15; 80 movies made the top 250 list
Sure, this might suggest there is a "recency effect" or bias by the people that review the movies until you put things in perspective and realize how many more movies were released in each decade.
The percentages above demonstrate that; and completely erases your belief of recency effect. The %'s are pretty stable, in fact favoring the older decades.
However, to back up my "opinion" that the 80's are the worst decade for movies, I did further analysis.
Top 50 Movies By Decade
1949 and earlier; 4 movies.
1950 - 1959; 4 movies
1960 - 1969; 4 movies
1970 - 1979; 5 movies
1980 - 1989; 3 movies [ouch]
1990 - 1999; 16 movies [G.O.A.T]
2000 - 2015; 14 movies
Uhm, so lets review these numbers shall we?
From 1970 - 1970, 1084 movies were released and 5 of them made the top 50 list. That is .461%!
From 1980 - 1989, 1601 movies were released and 3 of them made the top 50 list. That is .187%!
From 1990 - 1999, 2312 movies were released and 16 of them made the top 50 list. That is .692%!
From 2000 - 2015, 4684 movies were released and 14 of them made the top 50 list. That is .299%!
When you actually consider these stats, two things are evident.
1) There is no bias at all for recent releases, in fact there seems to be more bias towards older movies.
2) The 80's has the lowest inclusion percentage for top films rated by the general public. Only Raiders of the Last Ark, Star Wars & Back To The Future made the list. In my opinion, they are clearly the most memorable from that era to me.
None of your Robocop, E.T. and Lethal Weapon made the top 250 list.
Ironically the movie you guys were trashing (Avengers), did make the list.
According to the numbers, there is absolutely no preference towards newer movies yet Avengers managed to make the list and all those "iconic" titles you guys love didn't.
I don't have the data for movies released from 60's, 50's and earlier; however, all of those decades had more movies make the top 50 list than the 80's era. And I am absolutely positive far less movies were released during those decades than the 80's.
DrakeTheSnake
12-11-2015, 03:12 PM
^ You obviously care way more about this than I do. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting your essay and research. Believe what you want to believe.
SugarHill
12-11-2015, 04:04 PM
west-side with pure facts
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