View Full Version : Trump: Ban all Muslim travel to U.S.
BigNBAfan
12-07-2015, 07:01 PM
YES! :applause:
This is what the majority wants.
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump called Monday for barring all Muslims from entering the United States.
Trump, who has previously called for surveillance against mosques and said he was open to establishing a database for all Muslims living in the U.S., made his latest controversial call in a news release. His message comes in the wake of a deadly mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, by suspected ISIS sympathizers and the day after President Barack Obama asked the country not to "turn against one another" out of fear.
"Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine," Trump said in a statement. "Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."
Trump's comments are likely to roil the Republican presidential race, forcing many of his opponents for the nomination to engage in a debate over whether there should be a religious test to enter America. But they may do little to dent Trump's own popularity among Republican primary voters. The billionaire businessman has dominated the GOP contest for months despite repeated controversies that would likely sink other White House hopefuls.
Trump's campaign added in the release that such a ban should remain in effect "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."
The release pointed to an online poll from the controversial Center for Security Policy, which claimed that a quarter of Muslims living in the U.S. believe violence against Americans is justified as part of a global jihadist campaign. Critics have questioned the reliability of the organization's information. It also pointed to a Pew Research poll, which the campaign declined to identify, which the campaign claimed points to "great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."
Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told CNN on Monday that the ban would apply not just to Muslim foreigners looking to immigrate to the U.S., but also to Muslims looking to visit the U.S. as tourists.
"Everyone," Lewandowski said when asked if the ban would also apply to Muslim tourists.
"Great surveillance and vigilance must be adhered to," said Trump in an additional statement Lewandowski provided to CNN. "We want to be very fair but too many bad things are happening and the percentage of true hatred is too great. People that are looking to destroy our country must be reported and turned in by the good people who love our country and want America to be great again."
Lewandowski declined to answer multiple questions about what the shutdown on Muslim immigration would mean for Muslim Americans and Muslims already living in the U.S. legally.
Obama's deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes reacted to Trump's call Monday on CNN, calling it "totally contrary to our values as Americans" and pointed to the Bill of Rights' protection of freedom of religion and pointing to the "extraordinary contributions" Muslim Americans have made to the U.S.
"But it's also contrary to our security," Rhodes told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room." "The fact of the matter is ISIL wants to frame this as a war between the United States and Islam, and if we look like we're applying religious tests to who comes into this country, we're sending a message that essentially we're embracing that frame and that is going to make it very difficult to partner with Muslim communities here in the United States and around the world to prevent the scourge of radicalization that we should be focused on."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html
Nick Young
12-07-2015, 07:12 PM
I'm not down with that.
imdaman99
12-07-2015, 07:19 PM
You don't even live in the US, you have no say. Can't even vote for this clown if he runs :roll:
poido123
12-07-2015, 07:21 PM
You don't even live in the US, you have no say. Can't even vote for this clown if he runs :roll:
so what happens to you if he gets in?
deported or?
Jameerthefear
12-07-2015, 07:23 PM
Why do you non-American creeps care so much about us? Rent free.
Nick Young
12-07-2015, 07:28 PM
You don't even live in the US, you have no say. Can't even vote for this clown if he runs :roll:
I can vote bro.
I have no say anyways. Neither do you. These elections are bullshit and our vote doesn't mean shit with the way it's set up now.
oh the horror
12-07-2015, 07:40 PM
I'm pretty sure the "majority" doesn't want that.
Derka
12-07-2015, 08:05 PM
When he doesn't get the nom and runs 3rd party...it's going to be hilarious :lol
Gonna be even greater when we see ads for his next reality show a few months after the general election.
imdaman99
12-07-2015, 08:28 PM
so what happens to you if he gets in?
deported or?
I'd like to see him try. He might need some of them Chicago cops to plant some stuff on me :oldlol:
I'm legal, I'm law abiding, I'm educated, I enjoy the freedom of this country, I have a job, I'm an asset to the economy. Plus there are rights. Also he isn't coming close to presidency :roll:
nathanjizzle
12-07-2015, 08:35 PM
this is stupid in the sense that you are making Muslims the enemy, and not just the terrorists, there for, breeding more Muslims to turn into terrorist.
DonDadda59
12-07-2015, 08:39 PM
this is stupid in the sense that you are making Muslims the enemy, and not just the terrorists, there for, breeding more Muslims to turn into terrorist.
Stop being PC you pu$$y. That's why America is a third world hell hole right now. PC libtards like you who are afraid to tell it like it is.
Godzuki
12-07-2015, 08:46 PM
trump4prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
vote obomba if u want another 9/11 :coleman:
poido123
12-07-2015, 10:40 PM
I'd like to see him try. He might need some of them Chicago cops to plant some stuff on me :oldlol:
I'm legal, I'm law abiding, I'm educated, I enjoy the freedom of this country, I have a job, I'm an asset to the economy. Plus there are rights. Also he isn't coming close to presidency :roll:
As unfortunate as this may sound to you, can you understand that thwere is literally NO OTHER WAY to weed out the troubled ones among you?
It's not like you guys can't take far more drastic measures to curb the extremism. Too many of you fencesit and allow shit to go on.
Bosnian Sajo
12-07-2015, 10:43 PM
so what happens to you if he gets in?
deported or?
No one man has all that power.
poido123
12-07-2015, 10:43 PM
this is stupid in the sense that you are making Muslims the enemy, and not just the terrorists, there for, breeding more Muslims to turn into terrorist.
It's America's and all other countries affected by terrorism at the hands of Muslims fault for taking drastic measures to stop it?
What do you propose would work better? Because I don't see the moderates doing near enough to stop the troubled ones.
And there is no way in hell that they don't hear anti-western chatter among their friends. If they were serious about it, they'd take it up with them.
HitandRun Reggie
12-07-2015, 11:39 PM
Every Muslim here said the US is responsible for creating Muslim terrorists through our foreign policy. So until we change our foreign policy I think we can all agree we don't need to bring any more people here who might possibly terrorize us.
Velocirap31
12-07-2015, 11:53 PM
Using muslims as a scapegoat I think, but that's what America does. So many problems to fix though. It's not like a zero muslim population is going to change anything, there is still plenty of homegrown terrorism and violence. Hell, there will probably be another mass shooting this week and no one would be surprised.
Patrick Chewing
12-08-2015, 12:59 AM
Using muslims as a scapegoat I think, but that's what America does. So many problems to fix though. It's not like a zero muslim population is going to change anything, there is still plenty of homegrown terrorism and violence. Hell, there will probably be another mass shooting this week and no one would be surprised.
Muslims are the problem though. All these Muslims here in America ran away from their oppressive governments and ran away from all that terror, and yet have the audacity to criticize other Americans when we bring Muslims up.
Muslims refuse to take care of their own, leaving non-Muslims to do the dirty work for them. This is the only way you're going to eradicate the jihadi's. American Muslims and Muslims throughout the world need to fight this battle.
poido123
12-08-2015, 01:12 AM
No one man has all that power.
Hitler was able to exterminate millions of Jews in his country?
I want to know why drastic measures shouldn't be taken? Because moderates like you have done very little to stop your buddies committing these atrocities.
You ask what can we possibly do? You could of done more. You needed to put yourself in harms way, but you weren't prepared to do that, but there's a consequence for inaction.
Stop blaming the government for protecting national security and cracking down on muslims.
If you guys really wanted this to go a diffeerent direction, instead of riding the tide of muslim demands and defiance in western/european countries, well then things could be a lot different.
You better hope Trump doesn't get in
Lakers Legend#32
12-08-2015, 01:18 AM
Trump: Fear Itself
DrakeTheSnake
12-08-2015, 01:22 AM
Every Muslim here said the US is responsible for creating Muslim terrorists through our foreign policy. So until we change our foreign policy I think we can all agree we don't need to bring any more people here who might possibly terrorize us.
Or maybe we stop going into war on their land and declaring war against their religion?
Styles p
12-08-2015, 01:28 AM
What's The Donald going to come up with next? Muslim concentration camps?
poido123
12-08-2015, 01:31 AM
What's The Donald going to come up with next? Muslim concentration camps?
Let's not smear trump and assume he's a racist buffoon.
A majority of people in western/european countries hold some level of concern about Muslims.
Jameerthefear
12-08-2015, 01:36 AM
Let's not smear trump and assume he's a racist buffoon.
A majority of people in western/european countries hold some level of concern about Muslims.
Man you're dumb
Styles p
12-08-2015, 01:38 AM
Let's not smear trump and assume he's a racist buffoon.
A majority of people in western/european countries hold some level of concern about Muslims.
he's doing a good enough job of that himself.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 01:38 AM
Man you're dumb
I don't think he's slept much lately. It's been raining outside :oldlol:
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 01:41 AM
What's The Donald going to come up with next? Muslim concentration camps?
I don't think even Trump is as sick and twisted as the Muslims in Pakistan who put Christians in concentration camps.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 01:45 AM
I don't think even Trump is as sick and twisted as the Muslims in Pakistan who put Christians in concentration camps.
That's great, Trump is not as barbaric as a bunch of morons in a 3rd world country (which isn't even the govt)
Did them Pakistanis ban Christian travel though?
Jameerthefear
12-08-2015, 01:46 AM
I don't think he's slept much lately. It's been raining outside :oldlol:
:roll:
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 02:03 AM
Did them Pakistanis ban Christian travel though?
C'mon. Even Pakistan is not as truly dark and evil as that region known as Mecca.
http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Saudi-Arabia-apartheid-road-sign-to-Mecca-non-Muslims.jpg
http://www.lorber-trip.co.za/img/mekkah.JPG
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images2006/2006-02_Forwood-saudph17.jpg
KNOW1EDGE
12-08-2015, 02:06 AM
Trump is a good man.
Now if only he could ship out Al Craqa members that are plotting to shoot up another school
Let me know if you need anything sweetheart.
I'm here for you.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:09 AM
C'mon. Even Pakistan is not as evil as that region known as Mecca.
http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Saudi-Arabia-apartheid-road-sign-to-Mecca-non-Muslims.jpg
http://www.lorber-trip.co.za/img/mekkah.JPG
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images2006/2006-02_Forwood-saudph17.jpg
What business do you have in Mecca? Were you there for hajj?
Also, I love Mecca but I won't ever defend the Saudis.
Nick Young
12-08-2015, 02:12 AM
C'mon. Even Pakistan is not as truly dark and evil as that region known as Mecca.
http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Saudi-Arabia-apartheid-road-sign-to-Mecca-non-Muslims.jpg
http://www.lorber-trip.co.za/img/mekkah.JPG
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images2006/2006-02_Forwood-saudph17.jpg
Bro, don't post photos and proof of Islamic hatred! It's racist bro!
Also Muslims are oppressed minoritehs. It's impossible for them to be racist.
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 02:13 AM
What business do you have in Mecca? Were you there for hajj?
Defender of evil. I should have expected as much...
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:15 AM
Non Muslims don't do Hajj. I don't understand. This is not segregation if that's what you're thinking :facepalm
Nick Young
12-08-2015, 02:16 AM
Non Muslims don't do Hajj. I don't understand. This is not segregation if that's what you're thinking :facepalm
Stop the Newsspeak. It is a crystal clear example of the dictionary definition of segregation.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:18 AM
It's the same thing as a men's bathroom and a woman's bathroom. If you don't got a d, you don't belong in the men's bathroom.
Let me guess, that is sexist right?
Nick Young
12-08-2015, 02:21 AM
It's the same thing as a men's bathroom and a woman's bathroom. If you don't got a d, you don't belong in the men's bathroom.
Let me guess, that is sexist right?
No it's not. Religion is not the same as gender.
This is the dictionary definition of segregation. Stop with the Newsspeak.
oh the horror
12-08-2015, 02:22 AM
The ignorance on this board has reached hilarity epic levels of just downright embarrassment.
Some of you men (and I use that loosely) are a SHAME. I mean wow :oldlol:
I know the cliche is that sports fans are airheads but Jesus Christ
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:25 AM
No it's not. Religion is not the same as gender.
This is the dictionary definition of segregation. Stop with the Newsspeak.
Non Muslims do not do pilgrimage. Therefore they exit somewhere else. Why is this not making sense to you? Did you not try to do hajj in your vast fairy tale experiences in life? :roll:
Non Muslims, exit here so you don't accidentally get trampled while doing pilgrimage :lol
Tell you what, next time you're around there... just pretend to be a Muslim and go through. Don't worry, we are not supposed to harm a fly in Mecca. Go try to walk around a million people. Tell me how much fun it was pretending to be a Muslim for a day so you can take the 'better' exit on the way to performing Hajj.
Nick Young
12-08-2015, 02:28 AM
Non Muslims do not do pilgrimage. Therefore they exit somewhere else. Why is this not making sense to you? Did you not try to do hajj in your vast fairy tale experiences in life? :roll:
Non Muslims, exit here so you don't accidentally get trampled while doing pilgrimage :lol
Tell you what, next time you're around there... just pretend to be a Muslim and go through. Don't worry, we are not supposed to harm a fly in Mecca. Go try to walk around a million people. Tell me how much fun it was pretending to be a Muslim for a day so you can take the 'better' exit on the way to performing Hajj.
Why does your argument keep changing? Stick to one.
This the dictionary definition of segregation.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:31 AM
It's like talking to a dumb wall :roll: Won't miss reading your posts, peaceout.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=122539
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 02:37 AM
Tell you what, next time you're around there... just pretend to be a Muslim and go through. Don't worry, we are not supposed to harm a fly in Mecca.
If you say so
http://lhvnews.com/files/en/news/2015/9/26/30793_110.jpg
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 02:39 AM
If you say so
http://lhvnews.com/files/en/news/2015/9/26/30793_110.jpg
Was that the trampling incident? Blame the saudis. Also, you think stampedes are done to kill ppl? Did those animals in Lion King kill Mufasa on purpose? :eek: Why wasn't there a thread made on that?
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 02:45 AM
Was that the trampling incident? Blame the saudis. Also, you think stampedes are done to kill ppl? Did those animals in Lion King kill Mufasa on purpose? :eek: Why wasn't there a thread made on that?
That tends to happen when the Saudi police fire on Iranians and Sunnis attack Shiites like in '87.
Nick Young
12-08-2015, 02:48 AM
Remember when Mohammad went to Mecca and ordered the murder of hundreds of people who refused to convert to his new religion?:confusedshrug:
dude77
12-08-2015, 03:01 AM
trump just keeps on killing it :applause: if you care about national security, you will agree with this .. he said ban them from entering the United States until we can figure this all out .. not permanently .. these people don't respond to nice .. they already said they will exploit the refugee crisis to carry out attacks .. so what do we do .. continue allowing refugees in .. it's utter insanity .. it's a matter of national security .. those 14 innocents are dead because of some scumbag islamic radical who was granted passage into our great country
poido123
12-08-2015, 03:07 AM
trump just keeps on killing it :applause: if you care about national security, you will agree with this .. he said ban them from entering the United States until we can figure this all out .. not permanently .. these people don't respond to nice .. they already said they will exploit the refugee crisis to carry out attacks .. so what do we do .. continue allowing refugees in .. it's utter insanity .. it's a matter of national security .. those 14 innocents are dead because of some scumbag islamic radical who was granted passage into our great country
I am living in a world of people without logic and stupid, PC lieberalist tendancies. Thank god there are people like you still here :eek:
PC world is killing everything. get out of the way PC warriors and let Trump do his thing.
oarabbus
12-08-2015, 03:13 AM
trump just keeps on killing it :applause: if you care about national security, you will agree with this .. he said ban them from entering the United States until we can figure this all out .. not permanently .. these people don't respond to nice .. they already said they will exploit the refugee crisis to carry out attacks .. so what do we do .. continue allowing refugees in .. it's utter insanity .. it's a matter of national security .. those 14 innocents are dead because of some scumbag islamic radical who was granted passage into our great country
Trump can't ven prove he isn't a fuc.king moron.
"Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet"
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates
dude77
12-08-2015, 03:27 AM
Trump can't ven prove he isn't a fuc.king moron.
"Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet"
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates
trump is old school .. a lot of older school folks aren't totally familiar with the inner workings of the internet .. no big deal .. nothing he can't get up to speed with fairly quickly .. what he most likely means is going after all the isis/terror hate sites out there and shutting them down .. those sites are filled with not only propaganda but outright direct instructions on how to attack .. no reason why they should be up
DonD13
12-08-2015, 03:42 AM
lol
even Republicans are disgusted https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/673990065517891584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
PC world is killing everything. get out of the way PC warriors and let Trump do his thing.
yeah let him do his thing who cares what the American people think
dude77
12-08-2015, 03:45 AM
lol
even Republicans are disgusted https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/673990065517891584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
yeah let him do his thing who cares what the American people think
american people are agreeing with him
DonDadda59
12-08-2015, 03:55 AM
"Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet"
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates
That man is a steaming hot bowl of stupid. :facepalm
On the plus side, he's single-handedly ensuring the GOP will not sniff the presidency for a whole generation. I'm still not convinced he's not just a mole planted by the Clintons to throw the Republican party into complete disarray.
It's a conspiracy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzEhdaRxck) :lol
Life-long Democrat all of a sudden turns Republican at damn near 70 years old... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwAAh60jBo)
LikeABosh
12-08-2015, 04:16 AM
Not allowing communists to immigrate to the U.S from Soviet Russia
Not allowing Muslims to immigrate to the U.S from the middle east.
I fail to see the difference. :confusedshrug:
DonDadda59
12-08-2015, 04:18 AM
The Donald goes from a life-long democrat and personal friend, supporter, and financial backer of both Hillary's political career and the Clinton Global Initiative... to the second coming of Mussolini over night? C'mon son...
Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/trumpwedding.jpg
http://inequalityreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/TrumpClinton.png
Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.
Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.
Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.
The talk with Clinton — the spouse of the Democratic presidential front-runner and one of his party’s preeminent political strategists — came just weeks before Trump jumped into the GOP race and surged to the front of the crowded Republican field.
The revelation of the call comes as many Republicans have begun criticizing Trump for his ties to Democrats, including past financial donations to the Clintons and their charitable foundation.
Trump took the call from his office in Trump Tower in New York, according to the four allies, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly. The call came as Trump was making a final decision about whether to run, and he was candid about his political ambitions and his potential interest in seeking the White House during the talk, these allies said.
The 42nd president listened intently and then analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the GOP base, the Trump allies said.
The tone of the call was informal, and Clinton never urged Trump to run, the four people said. Rather, they said, Clinton sounded curious about Trump’s moves toward a presidential bid and told Trump that he was striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right.
One person with knowledge of Clinton’s end of the call said the former president was upbeat and encouraging during the conversation, which occurred as Trump was speaking out about GOP politics and his prescriptions for the nation.
Clinton aides declined to speak on the record about the call, saying the conversation was personal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
Slick Willy still running the show. This time he's got his golfing buddy making sure his bitch wins by Historic margins. :pimp:
http://womansinsite.com/wp-content/uploads/Bill-Clinton-with-cigar.jpg
Nanners
12-08-2015, 04:25 AM
The Donald goes from a life-long democrat and personal friend, supporter, and financial backer of both Hillary's political career and the Clinton Global Initiative... to the second coming of Mussolini over night? C'mon son...
yep, and it looks like there are 2 possible scenarios right now
1. trump wins the repub nomination and then gets run over by hillary in the general election.
2. trump does not get nomination and runs third party cannibalizing enough republican voters from rubio or whoever so that hilary easily wins.
either way, every time trump says something xenophobic or racist its good for hilary and the democrats
DonDadda59
12-08-2015, 04:33 AM
yep. it looks like there are 2 possible scenarios right now
1. trump wins the repub nomination and then gets run over by hillary in the general election.
2. trump does not get nomination and runs third party cannibalizing enough republican voters from rubio or whoever so that hilary easily wins.
either way, every time trump says something xenophobic or racist its good for hilary and the democrats
Basically. Either way, Hillary sleep walks to the Oval Office.
The most recent poll of registered voters released yesterday had Hillary beating The Donald by 11 points (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349728/Hillary-Clinton-11-point-lead-Donald-Trump-s-virtually-tied-Ben-Carson.html)... Yet Trump has a huge lead over the second guy in his party.
It's going to be the most lopsided throttling in election History, whether Donald wins the nomination or not. The man is the ultimate Manchurian Candidate. :applause:
Ass Dan
12-08-2015, 04:52 AM
trump4prez :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
vote obomba if u want another 9/11 :coleman:
Glad to see you keep up on current events.
Don't get too jacked my Asian buddy because once China gets a wee bit stronger the demonzing is gonna be on you Chinese.
nathanjizzle
12-08-2015, 06:41 AM
btw, we are talking about "muslims" here, it is not an ethnicity that you can identify at the airport.
what if someone is middle eastern but are christian, do you take away their rights to travel as well just because they look like there belief would be muslim?
KevinNYC
12-08-2015, 09:24 AM
[INDENT]Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid
I don't think this is Bill Clinton pulling the strings for a Donald Trump run as much as Trump when contemplating his run getting advice from folks who knew politics and Clinton not putting up any roadblocks.
Trump: I'm thinking of running on running on deporting the American children of immigrants.
Clinton: I bet that would be a strong message in the primary states.
Perhaps it was a courtesy call if Trump was further along in his decision making.
But given that Trump hired a guy whose political action committee was formed to call Hillary a ****, but I'm not sure he Clinton are super tight. He fired that guy later, but still.
NumberSix
12-08-2015, 09:42 AM
What business do you have in Mecca? Were you there for hajj?
Also, I love Mecca but I won't ever defend the Saudis.
What business do Muslims have in the west?
dude77
12-08-2015, 09:54 AM
What business do you have in Mecca?
What business do Muslims have in the west?
http://sportsgif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nate-McLouth-Walkoff-Home-Run-GIF.gif
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 11:54 AM
Since liberals love to bring out the Norwegian model as an example of success maybe the US should follow their lead.
Norway is now not only offering them a free ride home but paying the equivalent of thousands of dollars for them to leave.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-paying-asylum-seekers-to-return-home-as-refugee-crisis-continues-a6763496.html
zoom17
12-08-2015, 12:14 PM
The media will run with this for a couple weeks instead of dismissing it. I mean why are they acting shocked at what Trump said this guy says crazy stuff all the time. I can't stand CNN,Fox, MSNBC same shit recycled everyday.
KevinNYC
12-08-2015, 12:19 PM
The media will run with this for a couple weeks instead of dismissing it. I mean why are they acting shocked at what Trump said this guy says crazy stuff all the time. I can't stand CNN,Fox, MSNBC same shit recycled everyday.
Why should the media dismiss this?
zoom17
12-08-2015, 12:25 PM
Why should the media dismiss this?
This is the same guy who says he saw thousands of people dancing in the streets during 9/11. He says crazy things all the time. So why is the media shocked when he says he wants to ban Muslims? He also back tracked that comment by allowing Muslim American from being banned. Also he's not winning the election anyway.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 12:38 PM
What business do Muslims have in the west?
How many Non Muslims perform Hajj every year? I will wait for your answer with statistics :cheers:
Velocirap31
12-08-2015, 12:44 PM
This is the same guy who says he saw thousands of people dancing in the streets during 9/11. He says crazy things all the time. So why is the media shocked when he says he wants to ban Muslims? He also back tracked that comment by allowing Muslim American from being banned. Also he's not winning the election anyway.
Do you mean thousand of muslims in Iraq, Iran and Pakistan dancing in the street on 9/11? That definitely happened, just go watch old news footage. They showed reactions around the world.
HitandRun Reggie
12-08-2015, 12:50 PM
How many Non Muslims perform Hajj every year? I will wait for your answer with statistics :cheers:
What effin difference does it make why someone wants to go there? Does the Vatican have "Christians only" signs everywhere?
rezznor
12-08-2015, 12:56 PM
That man is a steaming hot bowl of stupid. :facepalm
On the plus side, he's single-handedly ensuring the GOP will not sniff the presidency for a whole generation. I'm still not convinced he's not just a mole planted by the Clintons to throw the Republican party into complete disarray.
It's a conspiracy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzEhdaRxck) :lol
Life-long Democrat all of a sudden turns Republican at damn near 70 years old... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwAAh60jBo)
I can't wait for the moment when Trump is on the podium to accept the republican nomination and then tears away his shirt to reveal a black tshirt with a blue donkey underneath it, NWO hollywood hogan-style.
dude77
12-08-2015, 01:02 PM
I can't wait for the moment when Trump is on the podium to accept the republican nomination
good to see some coming to their senses
What business do you have in Mecca? Were you there for hajj?
Non Muslims don't do Hajj. I don't understand. This is not segregation if that's what you're thinking :facepalm
Of course a philistine like you wouldn't understand why anyone would want to visit an important historical and cultural site. I love visiting places like these and many other people do to.
Banning others during Hajj would be somewhat understandable for logistic reasons, but it's absolutely gross that these barbaric idiots ban people from visiting a historic site at all.
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 01:16 PM
What effin difference does it make why someone wants to go there? Does the Vatican have "Christians only" signs everywhere?
Why are you getting mad? That is an exit to go to Hajj. Since when do non muslims go to Hajj? :lol
imdaman99
12-08-2015, 01:23 PM
Of course a philistine like you wouldn't understand why anyone would want to visit an important historical and cultural site. I love visiting places like these and many other people do to.
Banning others during Hajj would be somewhat understandable for logistic reasons, but it's absolutely gross that these barbaric idiots ban people from visiting a historic site at all.
Look I get that. It's just that it's very crowded during rush hours there. The Saudis are fine with a bunch of 3rd world country Muslims getting trampled, but they don't want the headaches of that happening to tourists... there might be paperwork to fill out to go along with bad pub. Just visit in the offseason, that's all :cheers:
KevinNYC
12-08-2015, 01:34 PM
What business do Muslims have in the west?
The equivalent to The West would not be Mecca. It would be the Islamic world and westerners do tons of business there.
Look I get that. It's just that it's very crowded during rush hours there. The Saudis are fine with a bunch of 3rd world country Muslims getting trampled, but they don't want the headaches of that happening to tourists... there might be paperwork to fill out to go along with bad pub. Just visit in the offseason, that's all :cheers:
It's not just for Hajj, non-Muslims are never allowed there.
BigNBAfan
12-09-2015, 10:46 PM
Lets be honest - when the voting comes down, theres a lot more closet supports of trump than haters. I expect it to be a lot bigger lead for trump than polls show
dude77
12-09-2015, 11:07 PM
Lets be honest - when the voting comes down, theres a lot more closet supports of trump than haters. I expect it to be a lot bigger lead for trump than polls show
bingo .. the media is such fkn garbage .. trying to steer the narrative .. but the people are saying the exact opposite .. and you know a lot won't say it for fear of the pc police but completely agree with him ..
as for britain .. how fkn sad .. it makes me sad hearing about that place .. cops in london confirming they have to alter their way of policing because of these creatures .. but their politicians saying the exact opposite .. britian is lost .. fkn lost .. it is sad .. these mkers want to ban a true patriot serving his citizens but allow those dirty sand nigs to congregate on the streets and preach death and hate to the natives
Do you mean thousand of muslims in Iraq, Iran and Pakistan dancing in the street on 9/11? That definitely happened, just go watch old news footage. They showed reactions around the world.
That's not what he meant or what he said. He said he saw it in NJ, which is an old 9-11 rumor about Patterson NJ.
Yes Arabs celebrated, no thousands didn't congregate to do so in NJ like he "saw". If anything around the NY area Arabs went into hiding or went and bought big US Flags and cowboy hats. I'll always remember the "TURKEY IS A MEMBER OF NATO" banner the turkish mosque wrote up to protect themselves from backlash.
If there was a huge pro towers going down rally in the NY area the day of, there'd have been a culling because everyone was scared.
Trump heard the shit on the internet and repeated it as a tenet of his presidential campaign. Shit is embarrasing.
Trollsmasher
12-10-2015, 06:32 PM
Lets be honest - when the voting comes down, theres a lot more closet supports of trump than haters. I expect it to be a lot bigger lead for trump than polls show
same thing happened in Europe when it comes to the so-called "far right parties" - all parties underpolled/are underpolling by 3-6%
the biggest difference was in live call polls as people don't want to admit they are voting "far right" in a social setting
Patrick Chewing
12-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Truth be told, terrorism will be less with a Republican in office.
The only thing cringe-worthy about The Donald is the hooting and hollering he'll receive when he's in front of Congress for his first SOTU.
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 12:33 AM
Don't support a religous ban, but banning immigration from the more extreme middle-eastern countries is not a bad idea.
Or how about some basic, universally applied ideological standards? like:
Do you support honor killings of women? (this alone literally eliminates 99% of Iraq)
Do you think homosexuality should be punishable by law?
Do you think women should be able to drive?
Do you think people who draw pictures of Mohammed should be punished?
GIF REACTION
12-11-2015, 12:37 AM
He's just appealing to the lowest common denominator
It's an extreme view, but it does have ideas of merit in there...
Interpret it how you will... Egalitarian sympathies need not take priority over American domestic security. The pot is brewing, even though Uncle Sam might have caused all of this, it does not mean you unlock the gates and let these conflict driven people into your own backyard.
The visa checks are a good start. I'm surprised that any country allows in people without doing so.
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 12:38 AM
Also, find it hilarious that the same people who want to ban law abiding citizens from owning guns when some criminal nutcase commits a mass shooting are so upset at a ban of all muslims because of the sins of some radicals.
This, despite the fact that a SIGNIFICANTLY higher portion of muslims in the middle-east have radical beliefs than there are gun owners committing these shootings. I mean 99% of Iraqis literally think a woman who was raped should be killed...
imdaman99
12-11-2015, 12:50 AM
I mean 99% of Iraqis literally think a woman who was raped should be killed...
Link? I'm sure studies were done. Polls were taken of a random 100 Iraqis and 99 of them chose death.
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 12:59 AM
Link? I'm sure studies were done. Polls were taken of a random 100 Iraqis and 99 of them chose death.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
99% of Afghanistan, 91% of Iraq. My apologies. Confused the two.
KevinNYC
12-11-2015, 01:01 AM
Truth be told, terrorism will be less with a Republican in office.
The only thing cringe-worthy about The Donald is the hooting and hollering he'll receive when he's in front of Congress for his first SOTU.
What's your evidence/argument for this?
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 01:05 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/02/what-the-muslim-world-believes-on-everything-from-alcohol-to-honor-killings-in-8-maps-and-4-charts/
More interesting data on islamic extremism. This isn't some 1% tiny minority like some of the rhetoric would have you believe.
Patrick Chewing
12-11-2015, 01:22 AM
What's your evidence/argument for this?
The last 7 years under Obama.
GIF REACTION
12-11-2015, 01:27 AM
Patty Chewin' sticking it DEEP into kevin
NumberSix
12-11-2015, 02:00 AM
What's your evidence/argument for this?
Have you ever actually asked yourself why is it that you feel so compelled to go to bat islam? I mean, I'm assuming you're an atheist.
Is there any other religion you go out of your way to defend its honor? Not only do you probably not, but you probably go out of your way to loosely connect any negativity you can to other religions in a desperate attempt to put them on the same playing field with Islam, because that's the best of a pitiful "defense" for the indefensible you can possibly come up with. Why? What's your angle? Do you even know why you do this? Or do you just do it because it's something your "side" does?
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 02:15 AM
The last 7 years under Obama.. .
There were more terror attacks on embassies and consulates under Bush than Obama. :no:
St Ronnie endured far more terror attacks than either.
Patrick Chewing
12-11-2015, 02:23 AM
There were more terror attacks on embassies and consulates under Bush than Obama. :no:
St Ronnie endured far more terror attacks than either.
Can you name them?
And how about terror attacks period? Your pal Barry has Bush beat.
NumberSix
12-11-2015, 02:34 AM
There were more terror attacks on embassies and consulates under Bush than Obama. :no:
St Ronnie endured far more terror attacks than either.
But which president had more caliphates?
Patrick Chewing
12-11-2015, 02:35 AM
But which president had more caliphates?
:oldlol:
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 02:41 AM
What's your evidence/argument for this?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131025111241-total-terror-fatalities-worldwide-custom-1.jpg
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 02:50 AM
Can you name them?
And how about terror attacks period? Your pal Barry has Bush beat.
I know you're trying to frame this like a rhetorical question, but it's pretty obvious you really don't know. Such is life in the Limbaugh Bubble.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C9yFpDgDPQ8/UYg_6mW3S8I/AAAAAAAAPaA/4e6IoUkbxTY/s1600/Terrorist-Attacks-Bush_Deaths-at-Embassy-Consulates_List_Benghazi-obama-hillary-clinton.jpg
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 02:53 AM
Can you name them?
And how about terror attacks period? Your pal Barry has Bush beat.
Chewing probably thinks 9/11 happened under Obama. The brainwashing is complete. :lol :lol
RoundMoundOfReb
12-11-2015, 02:55 AM
The outrage over Benghazi was due to the denial of requests for more security and the blaming of a youtube video afterwards. Not because it was attacked.
Just saying.
NumberSix
12-11-2015, 03:00 AM
I know you're trying to frame this like a rhetorical question, but it's pretty obvious you really don't know. Such is life in the Limbaugh Bubble.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C9yFpDgDPQ8/UYg_6mW3S8I/AAAAAAAAPaA/4e6IoUkbxTY/s1600/Terrorist-Attacks-Bush_Deaths-at-Embassy-Consulates_List_Benghazi-obama-hillary-clinton.jpg
And how many of those made 600+ requests for security that were completely ignored?
Nobody blames the president for the attack genius. The president doesn't control the attackers.
Patrick Chewing
12-11-2015, 03:00 AM
Here you go, son:
The facts. Only the facts.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/24/terrorism-deaths-quadruple-obama/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 03:05 AM
The outrage over Benghazi was due to the denial of requests for more security and the blaming of a youtube video afterwards. Not because it was attacked.
Just saying.
The outrage was as authentic as a three dollar bill. Several Benghazi probes later, the GOP is still searching for its gotcha moment.
Obvious political witchhunt is obvious.
NumberSix
12-11-2015, 03:10 AM
The outrage was as authentic as a three dollar bill. Several Benghazi probes later, the GOP is still searching for its gotcha moment.
Obvious political witchhunt is obvious.
:wtf:
It found it. You weirdos are just pretending it never happened though.
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 03:20 AM
:wtf:
It found it. You weirdos are just pretending it never happened though.You get your news from Breitbart too, huh?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/benghazi-attack-report/
Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations
The final report, from Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, and ranking member Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Maryland, concludes there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack, no stand-down order to CIA operatives trying to go assist at the besieged consular building and found conflicting intelligence in the wake of the attack about the motive and cause, which were reflected in early public comments by the administration.
ThePhantomCreep
12-11-2015, 03:30 AM
Here you go, son:
The facts. Only the facts.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/24/terrorism-deaths-quadruple-obama/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm
There's an 800lbs elephant in your second link that you're conveniently ignoring.
Patrick Chewing
12-11-2015, 03:31 AM
There's an 800lbs elephant in your second link that you're conveniently ignoring.
Oh that's right, it's not terrorism if the President doesn't call it that.
poido123
12-11-2015, 05:11 AM
How many terrorist attacks at the hands of Muslims will it take before the PC Libtards see the true victims in all this?
5? 10? Or do we continue to blame america and the world for everything.
Islam is peaceful, yet Wahabbism is anything but peaceful. Reform needs to start in this part of Islam.
"What's your name?", asked the teacher.
"Mohammad," he replied.
"You're in Ireland now," replied the teacher, "So from now on you will be known as Mike.
" Mohammad returned home after school.
"How was your day, Mohammad?", his mother asked.
"My name is not Mohammad. I'm in Ireland and now my name is Mike”.
"Are you ashamed of your name? Are you trying to dishonor your parents, your heritage, your religion? Shame on you!"
And his mother beat the shit out of him. Then she called his father, who beat the shit out of him again.
The next day Mohammad returned to school. The teacher saw all of his fresh bruises.
"What happened to you, Mike?", she asked.
"Well shortly after becoming an Irishman, I was attacked by two ****ing Arabs."
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