Kobe with only 2 Finals MVP is proof Shaq carried Kobe

[SavageMode]

Finals MVP/Rings - True Alphas

Lebron - 2/2
Wade 1/3
Shaq 3/4
Kobe 2/5 .... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Curry 0/1
Andre Iguodala 1/1

[imnew09]

Not even MIchael Jordan wouldve won playing along That Shaq

[SavageMode]

Michael Jordan - 6/6 FMVP/Rings

Goat.

[Showtime2001]

Kobe 2 rings without Shaq.

Shaq 1 ring without Kobe.

:oldlol:

[Artillery]

The 2000 Finals have the record for the biggest difference in scoring ppg between the leading and the second leading scorer on a winning team:

Shaq - 38.0 ppg
Kobe - 15.6 ppg

That is a difference of 22.4 points.

2. 2006 finals - 20.9 ppg difference between Dwyane Wade and Antoine Walker
3. 1993 finals - 19.8 ppg difference between Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
4. 1975 finals - 18.0 ppg difference between Rick Barry and Jamaal Wilkes

:oldlol: SidekickBe
:oldlol: Outscored and outplayed by Austin Croshere

[pauk]

Not even MIchael Jordan wouldve won playing along That Shaq

He would have stolen some FMVPs, not to mention MVPs and the honor of being the best player in the NBA and the man of that team... same for Lebron...

1996-2002 Kobe was nowhere as good as Jordan (or Lebron).... at same age..

[SouBeachTalents]

The 2000 Finals have the record for the biggest difference in scoring ppg between the leading and the second leading scorer on a winning team:

Shaq - 38.0 ppg
Kobe - 15.6 ppg

That is a difference of 22.4 points.

2. 2006 finals - 20.9 ppg difference between Dwyane Wade and Antoine Walker
3. 1993 finals - 19.8 ppg difference between Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
4. 1975 finals - 18.0 ppg difference between Rick Barry and Jamaal Wilkes

:oldlol: SidekickBe
:oldlol: Outscored and outplayed by Austin Croshere

More stats from the 2000 Finals

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37

[Artillery]

More stats from the 2000 Finals

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37

:bowdown: Shaq Diesel

And Kirby fans want to pretend this dude wasn't carrying his bum ass

[Showtime2001]

:bowdown: Shaq Diesel

And Kirby fans want to pretend this dude wasn't carrying his bum ass
2/6.

:lol

[FKAri]

2/6.

:lol

Check OP. It's actually 2/5.

[SpaceJam]

MJ is probably the only player I could see winning FMVP on the same team as three-peat Shaq

[Showtime2001]

Check OP. It's actually 2/5.
Only thing people will remember is 2/6 as in LeBron's losing record in the finals.

:roll:

[DaOldLion]

Bird: 2/4

Kareem: 2/10

wow these guys got carried too

[SouBeachTalents]

Bird: 2/4

Kareem: 2/10

wow these guys got carried too

Lol, OP clearly showed Finals MVP to title ratio, not Finals MVP to Finals appearance ratio

[Showtime2001]

Lol, OP clearly showed Finals MVP to title ratio, not Finals MVP to Finals appearance ratio
Okay thanks for confirming Kobe > Kareem.

[SouBeachTalents]

Okay thanks for confirming Kobe > Kareem.

To be fair, Kareem was robbed of Finals MVP in 1980. Dude should easily have 3

[Marchesk]

Bill Russell

7 for 11?

[SouBeachTalents]

Bill Russell

7 for 11?

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[DaOldLion]

Lol, OP clearly showed Finals MVP to title ratio, not Finals MVP to Finals appearance ratio

riiight so Bird would have been better for being 2/2 than 2/3, because losing in the finals > winning a ring without a FMVP

[JT123]

More stats from the 2000 Finals

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37
But...but they were 1a and 1b! :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

riiight so Bird would have been better for being 2/2 than 2/3, because losing in the finals > winning a ring without a FMVP

When the **** did I say, or even imply that? All I did was state what OP said, something you misinterpreted incorrectly

[KirbyPls]

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

:bowdown: :bowdown:

Not bad considering the part-time postal workers, janitors and truck drivers had mean low post defense back then.

[Showtime2001]

If Miami won in 2011 Wade would have 2 FMVP's.

[SouBeachTalents]

If Miami won in 2011 Wade would have 2 FMVP's.

Yep, would have been huge for his legacy

[DaOldLion]

When the **** did I say, or even imply that? All I did was state what OP said, something you misinterpreted incorrectly

the premise of this thread is agenda driven and dumb as hell, why wouldn't you count finals losses and since when did FMVP imply that the other player "carried" the other. Bird and Curry weren't "carried"

[Showtime2001]

Yep, would have been huge for his legacy
By OP's logic LeBron would have been carried that finals.

[coin24]

This thread is proof the only pus.sy OP has seen is the fat hairy one he slithered out of:oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

:bowdown: :bowdown:

The only thing that keeps Russell from being GOAT is scoring. Not that he needed to score 30 a game, but it's hard to put him over MJ when Jordan had such a big impact on both sides.

[SouBeachTalents]

the premise of this thread is agenda driven and dumb as hell, why wouldn't you count finals losses and since when did FMVP imply that the other player "carried" the other. Bird and Curry weren't "carried"


By OP's logic LeBron would have been carried that finals.

The term carried in general is stupid, unless it applies to an epic run like '94 Hakeem or '03 Duncan. Kobe obviously wasn't "carried", especially so in '01 & '02.

[LongLiveTheKing]

It's general consensus, outside of Kobe stans, that Kobe got carried by Shaq. :oldlol:

[Showtime2001]

It's general consensus, from Kobe haters, that Kobe got carried by Shaq. :oldlol:
fixed.

[FKAri]

Only thing people will remember is 2/6 as in LeBron's losing record in the finals.

:roll:

MJ, Kareem etc

(gap)

Kobe/Lebron

That's all that matters regardless of what you stans think

[CavaliersFTW]

Proof Kobe mind raped OP: This thread

[Nick Young]

Shaq never won a single title until he played with Kobe.

Kobe on the floor is what allowed Shaq to go off.

It was basically like Goku and Vegeta.

[Real14]

2/6.

:lol
End thread:oldlol:

[Real14]

Shaq never won a single title until he played with Kobe.

Kobe on the floor is what allowed Shaq to go off.

It was basically like Goku and Vegeta.
Dat Ether:applause:

[sportjames23]

Not even MIchael Jordan wouldve won playing along That Shaq


The GOAT wouldn't have won FMVPs with Shaq as his teammate?

You do realize you're talking about the GOAT playoff performer, right?

[Magic 32]

Finals MVP/Rings - True Alphas

Lebron - 2/2
Wade 1/3
Shaq 3/4
Kobe 2/5 .... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Curry 0/1
Andre Iguodala 1/1

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Z2uguE0xhM/UXRJKsjL2SI/AAAAAAAAHUY/QaSxcCx_lgc/s1600/Dwyane+Wade+Reacts+to+Brandon+Jennings.gif

[ImKobe]

He would have stolen some FMVPs, not to mention MVPs and the honor of being the best player in the NBA and the man of that team... same for Lebron...

1996-2002 Kobe was nowhere as good as Jordan (or Lebron).... at same age..

Kobe was 17-23 years old at the time


Jordan was putting up average numbers in college while Kobe at the same age led the most dominant Playoff team ever in winshares and having the betters numbers through the first 3 rounds against teams who were all better than their Finals opponent.

Lebron from age 17-23 won 0 titles and got exposed by the same team Kobe destroyed in the Playoffs in 4 out of his 7 Finals runs (mind you that Duncan was in his prime in 3 of those runs).

Yeah, PRIME Lebron and MJ could have won a Finals MVP or two alongside Shaq, just like 2006-09 Kobe could, but mind you that Shaq in the Finals faced teams who had no idea how to limit his production while Kobe was playing in a facilitating role, not to mention he was injured yet still had the only memorable moments in the 2000 series against the Pacers..

You look at Shaq's career and you see that he couldn't win anything without a true closer by his side because he couldn't close games out in the 4th. No wonder he only won titles with Kobe and Wade, two of the greatest closers ever. Lebron is basically the Shaq of small forwards with all the chokes he's had over the years.

[Chokefree]

But...but they were 1a and 1b! :oldlol:
shouldnt you be wrapping some burritos or making some tacos?

[bigt]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Z2uguE0xhM/UXRJKsjL2SI/AAAAAAAAHUY/QaSxcCx_lgc/s1600/Dwyane+Wade+Reacts+to+Brandon+Jennings.gif

You do realise 2/5 is a better percentage than 1/3? Probably shouldn't be using Wade in that...

[Hey Yo]

The 2000 Finals have the record for the biggest difference in scoring ppg between the leading and the second leading scorer on a winning team:

Shaq - 38.0 ppg
Kobe - 15.6 ppg

That is a difference of 22.4 points.

2. 2006 finals - 20.9 ppg difference between Dwyane Wade and Antoine Walker
3. 1993 finals - 19.8 ppg difference between Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
4. 1975 finals - 18.0 ppg difference between Rick Barry and Jamaal Wilkes

:oldlol: SidekickBe
:oldlol: Outscored and outplayed by Austin Croshere
can't front on that ^

[WayOfWade]

Shaq did indeed carry Kobe, but that does not mean that Shaq could've gotten it done without him

[Showtime2001]

Shaq did indeed carry Kobe, but that does not mean that Shaq could've gotten it done without him
This makes zero sense.

[kennethgriffin]

Finals MVP/Rings - True Alphas

Lebron - 2/2
Wade 1/3
Shaq 3/4
Kobe 2/5 .... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Curry 0/1
Andre Iguodala 1/1



Kareem abdul jabbar is the greatest of all time and hes 2/6 in fmvps


Bill russell is 0/1

Jeter is 1/5


Losing fmvp to a great player like shaq isnt a big deal


Losing it to andre iguodala is

[SouBeachTalents]

Kareem abdul jabbar is the greatest of all time and hes 2/6 in fmvps


Bill russell is 0/1

Jeter is 1/5


Losing fmvp to a great player like shaq isnt a big deal


Losing it to andre iguodala is

Lol at bringing up Russell when the award didn't exist for TEN of his titles. He probably breaks Jordan record for FMVP if they did. And wtf are you bringing up Jeter for, random as hell :lol

[dubeta]

2 out of 5 lmao :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

MJ is probably the only player I could see winning FMVP on the same team as three-peat Shaq

Curry could steal some FMVP's the way he's playing right now. Curry + Shaq = 10 rings minimum. GOAT inside-out game. Can't stop either. Triple team one, the other is torching your team. FMVP every year would come down to which player the other team focused on trying to stop while letting the other get their's.

:oldlol:

[SavageMode]

2 out of 5 lmao :roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

a 21,22,23 year old losing out on a fmvp to prime shaq isnt all that bad. especially when he equals him in scoring over 2 out of the 3 runs



losing finals mvps to kawhi leonard and andre iguodala when youre 29 and 30 however




http://www.allthingsclipart.com/ouch.02.jpg

[ShawkFactory]

a 21,22,23 year old losing out on a fmvp to prime shaq isnt all that bad. especially when he equals him in scoring over 2 out of the 3 runs



losing finals mvps to kawhi leonard and andre iguodala when youre 29 and 30 however




http://www.allthingsclipart.com/ouch.02.jpg
Duncan was way past his prime and Curry should have won FMVP :confusedshrug: