Has Paul George surpassed Kevin Durant this season?

[warriorfan]

Eye test says yes

Advanced statistics say yes

[Hit_Em]

kd averaged like 32 7 and 5 his last healthy year


to play devil's advocate

[warriorfan]

kd averaged like 32 7 and 5 his last healthy year


to play devil's advocate

This season tho

[Sarcastic]

Eye test says yes

Advanced statistics say yes

No they don't.

KD 29 PER > PG 26 PER

[warriorfan]

No they don't.

KD 29 PER > PG 26 PER

PER sucks

RPM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM)

Paul George 6.26 > Kevin Durant 4.10

[Spurs5Rings2014]

PG13 > KD35 and it's not even close, honestly. One has that alpha killer instinct and the other defers like the beta that he is.

:applause:

[Sarcastic]

PER sucks

RPM (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM)

Paul George 6.26 > Kevin Durant 4.10

PER is better when comparing between two players, and asking who the better player is. There are other outside factors with real plus minus, such as coaching/teammates, etc that don't answer who the better player is.

RPM tells us that the Pacers are better with George on the court than the Thunder are with Durant on the court. That doesn't mean he's a better player though.

[warriorfan]

PER is better when comparing between two players, and asking who the better player is. There are other outside factors with real plus minus, such as coaching/teammates, etc that don't answer who the better player is.

RPM tells us that the Pacers are better with George on the court than the Thunder are with Durant on the court. That doesn't mean he's a better player though.

We can gauge their on court impact or we can just autistically add all their box scores together (what PER does and also misses defensive impact in the process)

[Sarcastic]

We can gauge their on court impact or we can just autistically add all their box scores together (what PER does and also misses defensive impact in the process)

So according to you and RPM, Kyle Lowry is the second best player. You really going with that?

[Spurs5Rings2014]

We can gauge their on court impact or we can just autistically add all their box scores together (what PER does and also misses defensive impact in the process)

:roll:

[warriorfan]

So according to you and RPM, Kyle Lowry is the second best player. You really going with that?

This season he has been close, Lowery has been beast so far.

22/6/5/2.6
.596 TS%
26 PER (I know you like this one)

[Sarcastic]

The fact that you said PER misses defense shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

A little advice, leave the advanced stats to the people who actually understand what they mean.

[Smoke117]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AJBx8DUvhHI/UD3wZ7siBDI/AAAAAAAAAGU/Ph7JstFExwE/s1600/The+Wire+-+Bunk+Moreland+Shaking+Head.gif

[DrakeTheSnake]

Eye test says yes

Advanced statistics say yes
Only because Durant has to share the ball. Switch places, and KD has better stats and the team record slightly improves, while Thunder take a miniscule dip.

[Wade's Rings]

PG13 > KD35 and it's not even close, honestly. One has that alpha killer instinct and the other defers like the beta that he is.

:applause:

Why do you hate Durant & Westbrook?

[Sarcastic]

This season he has been close, Lowery has been beast so far.

22/6/5/2.6
.596 TS%
26 PER (I know you like this one)

Yea he's having a great season, but to say he is the second best player in the NBA is just not true.


You really got Milsap in your top 10?

[warriorfan]

The fact that you said PER misses defense shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

A little advice, leave the advanced stats to the people who actually understand what they mean.

Explain to me how PER gauges defense besides adding together rebounds, blocks, and steals.





This is going to be good.

[juju151111]

Per doesn't take into account defense. Rapm does which is why PG has the edge

[tmacattack33]

The fact that you said PER misses defense shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

A little advice, leave the advanced stats to the people who actually understand what they mean.

The only defense included in PER is blocks and steals.

PER is useful when you want to see who has the best combined stats.

[juju151111]

Explain to me how PER gauges defense besides adding together rebounds, blocks, and steals.





This is going to be good.
Per doesn't and PG is superior defender to KD especially this season. Kd was better pre injury on defense. This season he missing assignments and getting burned with his one on one Defense. Last few weeks he has been a little better but overall PG>KD in defense

[tmacattack33]

Per doesn't and PG is superior defender to KD especially this season. Kd was better pre injury on defense. This season he missing assignments and getting burned with his one on one Defense. Last few weeks he has been a little better but overall PG>KD in defense

:biggums:

Paul George is a beast on defense. A 9.5/10. Healthy Durant was like a 8.0/10 on defense at best.

[warriorfan]

Per doesn't and PG is superior defender to KD especially this season. Kd was better pre injury on defense. This season he missing assignments and getting burned with his one on one Defense. Last few weeks he has been a little better but overall PG>KD in defense

You are preaching to the choir, I agree with almost everything you said. I was just asking Sarcastic if he could try to explain his side about how PER does properly gauge defensive impact.


Sarcastic is your standard advanced stat guy

You tell them the stat is bunk and why

Then their response is "you just don't get it" with out refuting anything you said or further explaining the statistic properly

:roll:

[juju151111]

:biggums:

Paul George is a beast on defense. A 9.5/10. Healthy Durant was like a 8.0/10 on defense at best.
I know that. I was just saying KD was better in 14. He was never PG level through

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Why do you hate Durant & Westbrook?

Why do you follow me around asking me this question every damn day? Westbreezy is actually one of my favorite players if you check my previous posts. Others can confirm. Durant is a beta, though, like Bran. It's hard to root for betas, mang. The alpha in me wants to see other alphas succeed. It's just nature, bro. Don't fight it.

:confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

It's hard to root for betas, mang. The alpha in me wants to see other alphas succeed. It's just nature, bro. Don't fight it.

:confusedshrug:


yet you're a Duncan stan? :lol :lol :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Blue&Orange]

We can gauge their on court impact or we can just autistically add all their box scores together (what PER does and also misses defensive impact in the process)
So if Durant have a crap bench he is a better player than if he has a awesome bench, right?

[Andrei89]

Eye test says yes

Advanced statistics say yes

wtf is eye test and how could your imbecile eyes make any reliable statement?

[Wade's Rings]

Why do you follow me around asking me this question every damn day?

I asked you this question twice in the Heat vs OKC Game Thread and this current thread but yea "i'm following you around asking this question everyday" :oldlol:


Westbreezy is actually one of my favorite players if you check my previous posts. Others can confirm. Durant is a beta, though, like Bran. It's hard to root for betas, mang. The alpha in me wants to see other alphas succeed. It's just nature, bro. Don't fight it.

:confusedshrug:

ok.

[NumberSix]

kd averaged like 32 7 and 5 his last healthy year


to play devil's advocate
Free throws.

[Draz]

PG is so much more fun to watch. How anyone enjoys watching Durant play is crazy to me

[Cocaine80s]

PG13 > KD35 and it's not even close, honestly. One has that alpha killer instinct and the other defers like the beta that he is.

:applause:
KD literally hit a ****ing game winner like two days ago :biggums:

[dabigbaws]

KD casually LOCKING UP zach randolph

[dabigbaws]

russell westbrook is ****ING SLICING UP THESE ***** GRIZZLIES

[90sgoat]

What did coach tell Westbrook, looking calm and composed tonight.

[warriorfan]

Sarcastic pulled a pauk and went ghost after he was supposedly going to explain how PER measures defensive impact :lol

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Sarcastic pulled a pauk and went ghost after he was supposedly going to explain how PER measures defensive impact :lol

Unknowledgeable basketball fans turn tail and run when their ignorance is brought to light with irrefutable proof.

:confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

Unknowledgeable basketball fans turn tail and run when their ignorance is brought to light with irrefutable proof.

:confusedshrug:

Truth.

[TheBigVeto]

Not yet.

[fragokota]

Great timing OP

[stalkerforlife]

Absolutely not.

[Fudge]

Dat thread backfire. :roll:

KD's still the best player in the world, little boy.