yeah curry is more efficient with a higher p.e.r. but lebron is the better player

[kennethgriffin]

Why? Because he can do more things offensively than curry. Doesnt need a stacked roster to carry him most of the game. Nore does lebron need this pussafied eras rules to be relevant


Curry is a great shooter. Hes the best shooter ever. But lebron.... even as inferior as he is to kobe in terms of posting up... is still.... a way better post up player than curry

And even as inferior as lebron is to kobe at doing everything on the offensive end. He still does way more than curry

And even as inferior as lebron is to peak kobe defensively. Hes still leaps and bounds above curry

And even though lebron cant create any shot for himself. He can still create a ton.. more than just threes.


Curry is basically a cheat code in the right place at the right time on the right team....

But hes not a better overall basketball player than a less efficient lebron james.

Talent isnt measured in numbers.


It never was





:lol

[warriorfan]

you dont know shit about bball breh

[dubeta]

Sorry, by PER always tells you who's better, unless the other player has a solid defensive advantage to compensate


So yes, because of defense LeBron is still better than Curry


However, since Kobe has never been good at defense, PER accurately describes him


Kobe is rightfully ranked 18th all time




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[kamil]

LeShortcut fans insecure as the Curry led Warriors are about to break Miami's 27 win streak.

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[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Why? Because he can do more things offensively than curry. Doesnt need a stacked roster to carry him most of the game. Nore does lebron need this pussafied eras rules to be relevant


Curry is a great shooter. Hes the best shooter ever. But lebron.... even as inferior as he is to kobe in terms of posting up... is still.... a way better post up player than curry

And even as inferior as lebron is to kobe at doing everything on the offensive end. He still does way more than curry

And even as inferior as lebron is to peak kobe defensively. Hes still leaps and bounds above curry

And even though lebron cant create any shot for himself. He can still create a ton.. more than just threes.


Curry is basically a cheat code in the right place at the right time on the right team....

But hes not a better overall basketball player than a less efficient lebron james.

Talent isnt measured in numbers.


It never was





:lol


What happened to you Kenneth? You used to be a bastion and paragon of a great poster mixed in with trolling. You're one of the reasons I signed up to ISH. I'm really sad to see such a great poster go to sh it.
:(

[warriorfan]

a canadian kobe fan who jumped ship for some other random american team that he has no affiliation with

shadiest MF on ISH hands down

[kennethgriffin]

Sorry, by PER always tells you who's better, unless the other player has a solid defensive advantage to compensate


So yes, because of defense LeBron is still better than Curry


However, since Kobe has never been good at defense, PER accurately describes him


Kobe is rightfully ranked 18th all time




http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cdb310ad67072458a3390322c315849d700d58692c606c2905 f09b8c167cfdb1.jpg


Dont fight it brother. Just ease back. Loosen those buttcheeks and take it for what its worth. Its not that hard to grasp.
..........ok it is. Its pretty big



But its way way way easier if you dont fight it.


Trust me. I know.... i'm a kobe fan




This is something you should just go with and wait till the next day to regret agreeing to




Now run along little brother... fly fly fly....... fly fly fly

[ShawkFactory]

Your point was pretty clear after the first post you didn't need the second.

[dubeta]

Kenneth done lost it :lol :lol

[stalkerforlife]

Used to be boys with the OP.

It's over.

Get your head right and i'll contemplate letting you back into the Kobe/Curry family.

[warriorfan]

Used to be boys with the OP.

It's over.

Get your head right and i'll contemplate letting you back into the Kobe/Curry family.

word... as of now kenneth and CurryOverLeBron are both OUT of the fam until further notice

[kennethgriffin]

Used to be boys with the OP.

It's over.

Get your head right and i'll contemplate letting you back into the Kobe/Curry family.


I was never part of the curry/kobe fam



I'm 100% kobe/wiggins


And i tell the truth about curry


Hes the modern day version of what steve nash could have been had he taken more shots after the rule changes in 2005


A cheap bullshit shooting specialist protected by the leagues rules even more so than lebron could ever dream of due to it being strictly a perimeter loophole


I'm sorry. But lebron is better.

Kobe>bran>nash 2.0

[stalkerforlife]

word... as of now kenneth and CurryOverLeBron are both OUT of the fam until further notice

Two votes = exiled.

Good work, fam.

[stalkerforlife]

I was never part of the curry/kobe fam



I'm 100% kobe/wiggins


And i tell the truth about curry


Hes the modern day version of what steve nash could have been had he taken more shots after the rule changes in 2005


A cheap bullshit shooting specialist protected by the leagues rules even more so than lebron could ever dream of due to it being strictly a perimeter loophole


I'm sorry. But lebron is better.

Kobe>bran>nash 2.0

Damn man, you've lost it since Kobe's downfall as the BITW.

Curry is an alpha champion. Nash is not even in his class.

[kennethgriffin]

Damn man, you've lost it since Kobe's downfall as the BITW.

Curry is an alpha champion. Nash is not even in his class.



You know it in your heart to be true

Nash on this warriors team wins the championship if he chucks threes all day


Admit it


The rules today are even worse than 2005. A shot happy nash would average 32ppg too if he could be protected by the puss era lol

[stalkerforlife]

You know it in your heart to be true

Nash on this warriors team wins the championship if he chucks threes all day


Admit it


The rules today are even worse than 2005. A shot happy nash would average 32ppg too if he could be protected by the puss era lol

There's no way, man. Nash had more help than Curry and couldn't make a finals. Nash needs more time than Curry to get his shot off and still be super efficient. Curry can make shots with defenders draped all over him.

Plus, Curry is a better defender than Nash.

[kennethgriffin]

Cavs got the 2016 nba title on lock

Warriors will burn themselves out during the season chasing 72 wins

Lebrons coasting

Kyrie coming back. He'l have curry in foul trouble the entire finals.


Save this thread. Bookmark it


The warrior ride will come crashing down soon enough

[stalkerforlife]

Cavs got the 2016 nba title on lock

Warriors will burn themselves out during the season chasing 72 wins

Lebrons coasting

Kyrie coming back. He'l have curry in foul trouble the entire finals.


Save this thread. Bookmark it


The warrior ride will come crashing down soon enough

I agree the Cavs will win the title, unfortunately...they have a top 5 player in the world at three separate positions.

The Cavs are just too top heavy to overcome when healthy.

[kennethgriffin]

There's no way, man. Nash had more help than Curry and couldn't make a finals. Nash needs more time than Curry to get his shot off and still be super efficient. Curry can make shots with defenders draped all over him.

Plus, Curry is a better defender than Nash.



Because nash was too passive. And their team defense was trash. Curry has an elite team of defenders backing his ass up aswell as on offense


And curry knows himself shooting is more effective than others. Nash was a better shooter than any other phoenix sun aswell. But he choose to pass



A greedy nash in todays nba on these warriors would be just as dominant as curry.


Periodhes an era specific player. Curry would get his shit pushed in 15 years ago

[deja vu]

What happened to you Kenneth? You used to be a bastion and paragon of a great poster mixed in with trolling. You're one of the reasons I signed up to ISH. I'm really sad to see such a great poster go to sh it.
:(
Kobeshit happened.

[warriorfan]

I agree the Cavs will win the title, unfortunately...they have a top 5 player in the world at three separate positions.

The Cavs are just too top heavy to overcome when healthy.

Even though it's hard to admit I have to agree with you. :(

[deja vu]

There's no way, man. Nash had more help than Curry and couldn't make a finals. Nash needs more time than Curry to get his shot off and still be super efficient. Curry can make shots with defenders draped all over him.

Plus, Curry is a better defender than Nash.
I understand that Curry is MVP right now but he has more help than Nash ever had. Not even close.

[stalkerforlife]

Even though it's hard to admit I have to agree with you. :(

If Curry and the boys win the title this year, it'll be the biggest upset in NBA history and Curry will enter the top 10 all time.

Cavs are THAT stacked.

[mehyaM24]

i have to agree with op (somewhat)

no way curry is THIS efficient and/or dominant with the old rules circa 2000-2005. not only that, but the way the game is called and how perimeter friendly it is during the regular-season, curry can exploit the game at levels never seen.

he's the goat shooter so i'm not even hating.

best hope for curry&warrior haters is him being locked up in the playoffs - where defenses are at their absolute best. good luck.

[stalkerforlife]

I understand that Curry is MVP right now but he has more help than Nash ever had. Not even close.

Huh?

Nash had prime Amare and prime Marion.

Plus a team full of snipers.

[mehyaM24]

watch the fiba summer games in 2014.

they played with handchecking & curry was contained (not stopped but he was very guardable).

with no physicality? dude is simply unstoppable - the nba needs to nerf their rules.

[RRR3]

LeBron can't create for himself :roll: :roll: :roll:





Shit Kenny says.



And Curry is the best right now, mate. LeBron might still be able to carry a team of role players to a more respectable record though, but that's irrelevant since both are on good teams, although Cavs are injured and don't fit like the Warriors do.

[warriorfan]

I understand that Curry is MVP right now but he has more help than Nash ever had. Not even close.

Amare > Draymond Green
Marion > Andre Iguodala
Joe Johnson > Klay Thompson
Q Rich > Harrison Barnes

GTFO

[deja vu]

Huh?

Nash had prime Amare and prime Marion.

Plus a team full of snipers.
And Curry has Draymond, Klay, Iggy, Bogut and a very deep bench.

Offensive is more or less matched but defensively the Warriors are better.

[kennethgriffin]

i have to agree with op (somewhat)

no way curry is THIS efficient and/or dominant with the old rules circa 2000-2005. not only that, but the way the game is called and how perimeter friendly it is during the regular-season, curry can exploit the game at levels never seen.

he's the goat shooter so i'm not even hating.

best hope for curry&warrior haters is him being locked up in the playoffs - where defenses are at their absolute best. good luck.



The funny thing is everyone knows i like curry and the warriors taking attention away from that ring chasing colluding rigging piece of shit lebron


But as i have said many many many times before. I tell the truth.


Lebron aint no kobe. But hes closer to him than curry. Especially in a real era


Pretty much any coach can lead this team. And pretty much any great shooter could be an mvp candidate on this team


Curry is just simply in the right place at the right time...


Nash

Price

Stockton

Hell even marbury


Theyed all replace curry and lead them to the leagues best record if they exploited these bullshit rules the way curry has

[kennethgriffin]

Amare > Draymond Green
Marion > Andre Iguodala
Joe Johnson > Klay Thompson
Q Rich > Harrison Barnes

GTFO



And then theres defense

[Naero]

Cavs got the 2016 nba title on lock

Warriors will burn themselves out during the season chasing 72 wins

Lebrons coasting

Kyrie coming back. He'l have curry in foul trouble the entire finals.


Save this thread. Bookmark it


The warrior ride will come crashing down soon enough

:wtf:

Weren't you rooting for the Warriors to win the NBA Finals just to worsen LeBron's NBA Finals record to 2/7 and preclude him from winning a title in Cleveland (this season may be his last plausible chance), or have you become more Kobe-defensive against Curry than you have been against LeBron?

[deja vu]

Amare > Draymond Green
Marion > Andre Iguodala
Joe Johnson > Klay Thompson
Q Rich > Harrison Barnes

GTFO
Amare was better offensively but Green is far better defensively.

Marion and Iguodala are about the same. Iggy was an All-Star too.

I'd rather have Klay than Joe.

Richardson and Barnes are a wash.

[kennethgriffin]

:wtf:

Weren't you rooting for the Warriors to win the NBA Finals just to worsen LeBron's NBA Finals record to 2/7 and preclude him from winning a title in Cleveland (this season may be his last plausible chance), or have you become more Kobe-defensive against Curry than you have been against LeBron?



Rooting and predicting are 2 different things


A healthy kyrie will make all the difference. At his best when 100% he can drop 40 or 50 on any given night

Curry will foul out by the end of the 3rd quarter if lebron lets him go to work

[knicksman]

so kobe stans too are insecure of curry. LOL just deal it with brah. Kobe is shit without phil just like jordan coz they are no leaders.

[dubeta]

so kobe stans too are insecure of curry. LOL just deal it with brah. Kobe is shit without phil just like jordan coz they are no leaders.

Curry is like a liberal arts major. Settling for easier degrees so he would have better GPA(stats). But in the end its the engineers, despite their lower GPAs, that succeed with life. Same with curry who settles for open 3's pts/layups instead of contested fadeaways for efficiency. Who secure his stats in the 1st quarters/garbage time instead of 4th quarters/clutch so he could have better looking stats. But in the end its the lebrons, who are tough on themselves, that wins in the end.

[kennethgriffin]

Curry is like a liberal arts major. Settling for easier degrees so he would have better GPA(stats). But in the end its the engineers, despite their lower GPAs, that succeed with life. Same with curry who settles for open 3's pts/layups instead of contested fadeaways for efficiency. Who secure his stats in the 1st quarters/garbage time instead of 4th quarters/clutch so he could have better looking stats. But in the end its the lebrons, who are tough on themselves, that wins in the end.


Now you get it

[knicksman]

Curry is like a liberal arts major. Settling for easier degrees so he would have better GPA(stats). But in the end its the engineers, despite their lower GPAs, that succeed with life. Same with curry who settles for open 3's pts/layups instead of contested fadeaways for efficiency. Who secure his stats in the 1st quarters/garbage time instead of 4th quarters/clutch so he could have better looking stats. But in the end its the lebrons, who are tough on themselves, that wins in the end.

rent free:lol dubeta my whipping boy. How you doin brah?

[kennethgriffin]

so kobe stans too are insecure of curry. LOL just deal it with brah. Kobe is shit without phil just like jordan coz they are no leaders.



I want curry to win the next 10 titles and make lebron ringless in cleveland


Itel make this era currys instead of lebrons. The 2010's will belong to the warriors and nash 2.0



But i wont sit here and tell you it isnt due to the bullshit new era rules


I refuse to not tell the truth

[RRR3]

At least you're consistent, Ken, I'll give ya that. most kobetards aren't.

[pauk]

Damn man, you've lost it since Kobe's downfall as the BITW.

Curry is an alpha champion. Nash is not even in his class.

He didnt get a single FMVP vote so i dont know if we can say that technically.

[plowking]

He didnt get a single FMVP vote so i dont know if we can say that technically.

He was the best player on the team that won. And the leader. And the MVP for the season.

Just because a bunch of people got the voting wrong, doesn't mean shit.

Curry>Bron.

[IMObjective]

What happened to you Kenneth? You used to be a bastion and paragon of a great poster mixed in with trolling. You're one of the reasons I signed up to ISH. I'm really sad to see such a great poster go to sh it.
:(
:oldlol: Kenneth is the same old Kenneth, he always tells it like how he sees it, it's just that this time his views don't line up with yours.

I'm starting to wonder, has it gotten to the point where the majority of ish would pick curry over lebron in an all time draft?

[Cleverness]

:oldlol: Kenneth is the same old Kenneth, he always tells it like how he sees it, it's just that this time his views don't line up with yours.

I'm starting to wonder, has it gotten to the point where the majority of ish would pick curry over lebron in an all time draft?

nah, his posts/life is 100% agenda to prop Kobe and knock Lebron. that's why he threw in kobe vs lebron offensively

right now he's tryin to knock curry so if LeBron wins this year it'll be meaningless to him. and if LeBron loses, then same thing.. he lost to a weaker player

and no, majority would def pick lebron over curry in all time draft. in fact, they may even pick lebon over kobe too.

[NZStreetBaller]

Tell me why exactly posting up is useful ir even necessary when you can shoot like curry....

[bobopenguin]

keneth has joined bron family. damn son!

[FKAri]

OP is:





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[Naero]

Rooting and predicting are 2 different things


A healthy kyrie will make all the difference. At his best when 100% he can drop 40 or 50 on any given night

Curry will foul out by the end of the 3rd quarter if lebron lets him go to work

Yes, there are fundamental differences between predicting and rooting, but I'm sure more than a few are surprised to see that you're overtly counter-predictive against your rooting interest. :confusedshrug:

Either way, I'll just assume you're adopting the defeatist mentality

[kennethgriffin]

Yes, there are fundamental differences between predicting and rooting, but I'm sure more than a few are surprised to see that you're overtly counter-predictive against your rooting interest. :confusedshrug:

Either way, I'll just assume you're adopting the defeatist mentality—the tendency readily expect/accept the worst-case scenario—just so you can soften the impact ahead of time in case the Cavaliers win it all; if so, I suppose I can see where you're coming from, but there isn't any need to fret over the eventual reality here.

As the Wizards exposed, the third-slowest (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor) team in the NBA in the Cavaliers is ill-conditioned to keep up with higher-paced teams; there is no better team to exploit that Achilles heel than the Warriors, who rank as the third-fastest team in the NBA on the same metric.

The mid-series small-ball lineup of the Warriors swung the series in their stranglehold despite how first-time jitters hampered their superstars from playing at their best, and it's a safe bet that they will no longer harbor the same setback now that their first finals appearance is in the rear-view mirror.

Plus, do you think Curry will actually foul out? He arguably has the highest basketball IQ of any player in the league and will know when to be discreet, and the Warriors' coaching staff is similarly astute enough to make the adjustments when needed—including switching Curry off of Kyrie Irving if he's that much of a foul magnet, as they're glutted with talented perimetric defenders to cover both LeBron and Irving.

Maybe the Spurs or Thunder (if Billy Donovan catches enough traction come playoffs time) will get the upper-hand against this Warriors team in the Western Conference playoffs, but the Cavaliers have no chance against this team when healthy. If they prove me wrong, feel free to bump this up, send me your PayPal-associated email, and I will give you $100.


Youre over thinking it

All i did was use an analogy lebron fans discounted for years but in lebrons favor during his later stages since hes in the same position kobe was in back in 2009 and 2010 when lebron was killin it in the regular season winning more games and having better numbers when infact kobe was still the better player but having to coast a bit to save himself for when it counted most.


Lebron fans know who the real best player is and i'm just reminding them that this is what they picked on while proping up p.e.r as the end all be all or whomever was league mvp to say the media knew better than true basketball enthusiasts



I'm just mind ****ing people cause i'm a dick like that

[Orlando Magic]

1) I can't believe I actually agree with a lot of shit that Kenneth posted... he's obviously trolling

2) warriorfan is Mr jabbar. Surprised nobody has pointed this out yet.