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masonanddixon
12-09-2015, 04:25 AM
Dirk
Dampier
Josh Howard
Jason Terry
Adrian Griffin/Jerry Stackhouse/Devin Harris

Just let that sink in and ask yourself how did Dirk do that...

pauk
12-09-2015, 04:53 AM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.

bluechox2
12-09-2015, 04:56 AM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.
/thread

pastis
12-09-2015, 05:04 AM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.

i never read or heared such fcking bullshit and i already watched donald trump press conferences. so lets talk about lebron james stacked 2007 team in the leastern conference. you son of

masonanddixon
12-09-2015, 05:05 AM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.
Howard was out of the league within two seasons after the 67 win season.

The sort of team if Lebron had you would say Lebron has no help.

masonanddixon
12-09-2015, 05:06 AM
i never read or heared such fcking bullshit and i already watched donald trump press conferences.

Yeah I know...I would love to see what the guy has to say about Lebrons 06-07 Cavs, since they were a mirror image of Dirk's supporting cast.

SugarHill
12-09-2015, 05:08 AM
https://thegrio.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dirk-nowitzki-jessica-olsson-kenyan-wedding16x91.jpg

masonanddixon
12-09-2015, 05:11 AM
https://thegrio.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dirk-nowitzki-jessica-olsson-kenyan-wedding16x91.jpg

She got fat quick.

bobopenguin
12-09-2015, 05:24 AM
didnt dampier called himself the best C after shaq? he was pretty solid tbh.

pastis
12-09-2015, 05:31 AM
didnt dampier called himself the best C after shaq? he was pretty solid tbh.

you mean erica?

2005/2006 RS season: 7,8 rebounds, 5,7 points on 49 %

2006 playoffs: 6.7 rebounds, 5 points on 54 %


and im not gonna start talk about his inexistent defense

Mr Feeny
12-09-2015, 05:36 AM
Dirk
Dampier
Josh Howard
Jason Terry
Adrian Griffin/Jerry Stackhouse/Devin Harris

Just let that sink in and ask yourself how did Dirk do that...

The 2006 Mavs reached the finals.
The 67 win team in 2007 did NOT reach the finals. The Spurs did.

masonanddixon
12-09-2015, 06:47 AM
The 2006 Mavs reached the finals.
The 67 win team in 2007 did NOT reach the finals. The Spurs did.

And nowhere in my opening post did I state that they made the 2007 Finals.

Mr Feeny
12-09-2015, 08:20 AM
And nowhere in my opening post did I state that they made the 2007 Finals.

You very sneakily clumped them together to allow confusion. So I just wanted to clarify that for everyone.

AintNoSunshine
12-09-2015, 09:02 AM
Thanks for letting us you are too young to know sht. That was a complete team with great role players to a superstar in Dirk. There are a ton of teams worst than that talent wise.

plowking
12-09-2015, 09:33 AM
Yeah I know...I would love to see what the guy has to say about Lebrons 06-07 Cavs, since they were a mirror image of Dirk's supporting cast.

Who was putting up 19/7/2 on Bron's team while being regarded as one of the best defenders at his position in 07?
Jason Terry was a 42% 3 point shooter averaging 17ppg too... Who was doing that on Bron's team?
Devin Harris was considered one of the best young prospects in the league at that point, and many were saying he should have been all-defensive those two seasons.

PJR
12-09-2015, 09:51 AM
Actually that 67 win Mavs team lost in embrassing fashion to the Bdiddy and Stephen Jackson Warriors.

The Mavs a year prior were raped by D.Gawd in the Finals.

JohnnySic
12-09-2015, 12:23 PM
People always underrate Dirk's help. He has some great teams.

Wanna see lack of help? Check out what Pierce had before KG/Allen.

Straight_Ballin
12-09-2015, 12:38 PM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.

What a poor rambling of damage control this post is.

Dirk did more with less than Lebron.

Deal with it.

Mass Debator
12-09-2015, 12:44 PM
Dirk
Dampier
Josh Howard
Jason Terry
Adrian Griffin/Jerry Stackhouse/Devin Harris

Just let that sink in and ask yourself how did Dirk do that...
Those were all pretty good role players. I particularly liked Josh Howard watching him live. He had a great scoring skill-set that was effective with Devin and when Kidd came in. Terry is like the ultimate bench scorer that had the ability to facilitate like a point here and there. Stack was a veteran presence that could still score. He was a difference maker against the Spurs and Phoenix series for sure. Everyone knows Dampier was a big body almost Bogut like. Harris could run the break and worked on D. Good flow of the game scorer.

Not the greatest finals team but definitely better than Lebron's in 2007 or in 2015 finals with an injured Kyrie and Love.

DJ Leon Smith
12-09-2015, 12:49 PM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.

How many flops did Jordan have though.

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 01:39 PM
She got fat quick.

she's in great shape in that pic

anyway, obviously very impressive (pauk stop your bullshit), but anyone who still doesnt see that the league was much thinner off from 2005-2007, and then 2008-2010 to a lesser extent, is a dumbass or denying it.

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 01:44 PM
Thanks for letting us you are too young to know sht. That was a complete team with great role players to a superstar in Dirk. There are a ton of teams worst than that talent wise.

In the league itself in 2007 there were atleast FIVE better teams roster wise... and still, they probably beat anyone in the playoffs that year EXCEPT GSW, that coupled with Dirk's timing of his injury/father sick/Nelson/matchup issues, resulting in Dirk's worst series of his prime and the teams, made it a very unfortunate year.

Wade's Rings
12-09-2015, 01:47 PM
In the league itself in 2007 there were atleast FIVE better teams roster wise... and still, they probably beat anyone in the playoffs that year EXCEPT GSW, that coupled with Dirk's timing of his injury/father sick/Nelson/matchup issues, resulting in Dirk's worst series of his prime and the teams, made it a very unfortunate year.

What teams?

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 01:53 PM
What teams?

Spurs: Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Bowen, Horry, Finley, Barry
Suns: Nash, Stoudemire, Marion, Bell, Barbosa, Diaw,
Warriors: Davis, Jackson, Richardson, Harrington, Ellis, Pietrus, Barnes
Jazz: Williams, Boozer, Kirilenko, Okur
Nuggets: Melo, Iverson, Camby, Jr Smith, Kevin Martin
Rockets: Ming, T-Mac, Battier

Pistons (East): Hamilton, Prince, Billups, Wallace, Webber

Wade's Rings
12-09-2015, 02:02 PM
Spurs: obvious one
Suns: obvious one
Warriors itself: Davis, Jackson, Richardson, Harrington, Ellis, Pietrus, Barnes
Rockets: Ming/T-Mac (2 Superstars), Battier
Jazz: Williams, Boozer, Kirilenko, Okur
Nuggets: Melo, Iverson, Camby, Jr Smith, Kevin Martin

That's the West, pretty much the league as a whole though, could add the Pistons from the East.

Alonzo Gif

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 02:03 PM
Alonzo Gif

smart, thoughtful reply.. clearly interested in the truth

Wade's Rings
12-09-2015, 02:05 PM
smart, thoughtful reply.. clearly interested in the truth

:oldlol: :cheers:

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 02:07 PM
Spurs: Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Bowen, Horry, Finley, Barry
Suns: Nash, Stoudemire, Marion, Bell, Barbosa, Diaw,
Warriors: Davis, Jackson, Richardson, Harrington, Ellis, Pietrus, Barnes
Jazz: Williams, Boozer, Kirilenko, Okur
Nuggets: Melo, Iverson, Camby, Jr Smith, Kevin Martin
Rockets: Ming, T-Mac, Battier

Pistons (East): Hamilton, Prince, Billups, Wallace, Webber



Mavericks: Dirk, Howard, Terry, Stackhouse, Harris



Doesn't look like that team is clearly above the rest, looks like any of the other^, but, I think besides the Nuggets, actually no, with Camby (even though overrated defensively), Dirk has exactly what he needs, besides the Rockets, Dirk would win as much or more games anywhere else aswell.

However the pairing of Dirk/Ming and Dirk/T-Mac would strengthen the team for playoff upsets better, they'd be more secure in that regard.

Magic 32
12-09-2015, 02:14 PM
One of those teams that would overwhelm you with depth.

The lack of a second dependable superstar hurt them in the finals and against the Warriors the following year.

I still remember that Howard time out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI-0WUWsCfg

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 02:23 PM
One of those teams that would overwhelm you with depth.

The lack of a second dependable superstar hurt them in the finals and against the Warriors the following year.

I still remember that Howard time out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI-0WUWsCfg

a no bias post from Magic 32 neither about Kobe or Bron.. :biggums:

jayfan
12-09-2015, 02:41 PM
Howard was in his prime, a great scorer, rebounder at his size, defender, got up to ~20 ppg behind Dirk.

Terry was in his prime, a great shooter, scorer, clutch he got up to ~20 ppg & could get that easy as a 2nd/3rd fiddle to anybody if required.

Stackhouse, a guy who may have even been at a superstar level just 4-5 years before that season with an average of 30 ppg, easily capable of 20 ppg any time required that season.

Dampier was in his prime, a great defender & rebounder, he was a legit 10-10 ppg & rpg player on any team.

Harris was a good allround PG, could score & pass, if required got you up to 15 or up to 21 ppg, with 7 assists a game.

Great complementary bench, players, coach........

Then you have Dirk himself in his prime....


THAT team made the Finals and won 67 games.... not weird at all.

Exactly.

Magic 32
12-09-2015, 02:43 PM
a no bias post from Magic 32 neither about Kobe or Bron.. :biggums:

Look harder.

ArbitraryWater
12-09-2015, 02:45 PM
Exactly.

you agreed to 2007 Stackhouse being a 20 ppg level player, Dampier a 10/10 player on any team (but the Mavs seemingly) and Harris if required 21 ppg caliber (on how many shots is that, and do the playoffs count?)... so nah.

tmacattack33
12-09-2015, 03:02 PM
Dirk
Dampier
Josh Howard
Jason Terry
Adrian Griffin/Jerry Stackhouse/Devin Harris

Just let that sink in and ask yourself how did Dirk do that...

Devin Harris was ballin back then...how are you gonna list him third...after Griffin and Stackhouse....as if he was some scrub C team PG?

LOL.

Dirk's 2011 run was incredible and more worthy of a thread than this. The 2006 Mavericks were pretty well balanced.

jayfan
12-09-2015, 03:04 PM
you agreed to 2007 Stackhouse being a 20 ppg level player, Dampier a 10/10 player on any team (but the Mavs seemingly) and Harris if required 21 ppg caliber (on how many shots is that, and do the playoffs count?)... so nah.

I agree with the premise of Pauk's post. That several players were in their primes, and that it wasn't crazy that they made the Finals.