Mark Cuban about to do it again

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14333439/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-criticizes-officials-not-calling-defensive-three-seconds

Sound familiar?

But I thought the lane was wide open? Watch the games don. Watch the games 3ball.

[Heavincent]

Defensive 3 seconds isn't a terribly meaningful rule anyway and is totally overblown by out of touch people. It usually occurs as a result of somebody not paying attention. All you gotta do is be within arms reach of somebody or take one step out of the paint every 3 seconds...easy to avoid. It's not some huge obstacle for defenses.

And then you have what Cuban is alluding to, which is that refs straight up ignore it a lot of times.

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Defensive 3 seconds isn't a terribly meaningful rule anyway and is totally overblown by out of touch people. It usually occurs as a result of somebody not paying attention. All you gotta do is be within arms reach of somebody or take one step out of the paint every 3 seconds...easy to avoid. It's not some huge obstacle for defenses.

And then you have what Cuban is alluding to, which is that refs straight up ignore it a lot of times.
Pretty much

Cousins pretty much camps in the paint indefinitely and every now and then he reaches with his arm, alluring to the within arms reach clause of the rule

Just as teams did with illegal defense in the late 80s and 90s, particular teams goad officials into calling it, which usually causes refs to start no-calling because of the slow boring whistle prone product. I believe George Karl's supersonics in the mid 90's used to do this, which allowed them to get away with subtle zones which was strictly against the rules according to the illegal defense guidelines.

It was the same thing with handchecking and overall physical defense. Although physicality has always been part of defense and the game, it was Pat Riley that took it to the extreme. He saw the bad boy Pistons bully his Lakeshow in the finals and replicated those methods, testing officials further than anyone ever had. It sparked the tough physical defense ball that defined the 92-04 period. It wasn't until the man in question, Mark Cuban complained of the Pistons physical exploits on Kobe, to which he orchestrated more stringent interpretations on perimeter contact and more focus on calling 3 in the key. As history had shown us, teams test officials, and over time rule interpretations alter.

Fate would have it that Cuban would be the one to bring this up..perhaps we are in for another 05-07 period?

[3ball]

You guys are delusional.. Anyone can see that today's lane is wide open on every play.

And the defensive 3 seconds rule is so simple (armslength), that it's easy to abide by.

Anyone with even below-average vision can see that today's lane is wide open due to spacing and defensive 3 seconds, while previous eras had packed paints because there was no spacing and players could legally paint-camp.

[3ball]

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When today's player catches the ball on the elbow, they see open space because shooters on the weakside draw defenders away from strongside (spacing):


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-06-2015/uAh_p8.gif



Otoh, when players in previous eras caught the ball on the elbow, they saw bodies - no one was spacing the weakside so all 10 players were bunched up on strongside or in the paint:


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http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2015/kZeK3Z.gif

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http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-08-2015/YLL71A.gif



Today's player has shooters spacing the weakside to take defenders away from the strongside, whereas previous eras didn't have weakside spacing, so all 10 players were bunched up on the strongside.

[3ball]

Pretty much



You think today's players occupy the lane like this?


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-30-2015/jkrR_v.gif


Then you're schizto crazy.. Because they obviously don't

[Pushxx]

I wonder when the league is gonna lift remaining rules on where you can physically put your body on the court to play defense. Zone defense prohibition was just :facepalm.

It won't happen for a long time because the offensive product probably looks a little better as it is.

[ZenMaster]

Otoh, when players in previous eras caught the ball on the elbow, they saw bodies - no one was spacing the weakside so all 10 players were bunched up on strongside or in the paint:

That is a very general statement, could you back that up with GIFs that are not from the triangle offense? To be fair though, given the amount of basketball played in that era, you'll probably need 1000+ GIFs to getting close to showing that it was a general trend that nobody spaced out to the 3pt line.

[SpanishACB]

some players just follow the rule too strictly or too dumb

[3ball]

That is a very general statement, could you back that up with GIFs that are not from the triangle offense? To be fair though, given the amount of basketball played in that era, you'll probably need 1000+ GIFs to getting close to showing that it was a general trend that nobody spaced out to the 3pt line.


OR, you can do one of the following:

1) if you're too lazy to fire up some 80's footage for 2 minutes on youtube, then you can just look at the stats - teams attempted 2 three-pointers per game in 1985, compared to 24 per game today.

2) look at old footage from the 80's - a CURSORY GLANCE will show that the weakside wasn't spaced like it is today, allowing all 5 defenders to occupy the strongside and/or paint on almost every play - defenders were simply not spread out evenly over the strongside AND weakside like today's game - it's clear as day - you have to be blind not to immediately see the massive difference.