So just being WILLING to guard Lebron in the finals while he drops 30, you get FMVP?

[Akrazotile]

How incredible is this? Seriously.

In 2014 Lebron James averaged 28 points on 57% shooting.
TRB% was 14, AST% was 25. Also averaged 2 steals per game.

Kawhi Leonard? 17 points on 60%.
TRB% was 13, AST% was 10. Averaged less than 1 steal per game.


Lebron was BY FAR the most 'valuable' player playing in the series. It wasn't even a contest. But because the Spurs won, they simply gave the award to the guy who at least TRIED to guard him and couldn't :lol


In 2015...

The exact same thing happened :roll:



Why is this thing still called the Bill Russell FMVP? Please rename it the King James FMVP. They basically just auto-give it to anyone willing to lie down in front of the bulldozer, even if they get plowed :oldlol:


Thanks for your attention. Looking forward to lively discussion :applause:

[warriorfan]

The bigger question is will LeBron James get the Barry Bonds treatment and be excluded from the Hall of Fame for PED abuse?

[dubeta]

Meanwhile Kobe can average 15 ppg on 37% in the 2000 finals and teams consider that "letting Kobe go off" :lol :lol

[Akrazotile]

Meanwhile Kobe can average 15 ppg on 37% in the 2000 finals and teams consider that "letting Kobe go off" :lol :lol


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[dubeta]

The bigger question is will LeBron James get the Barry Bonds treatment and be excluded from the Hall of Fame for PED abuse?

meltdown

[LoneyROY7]

Dude just dropped true rebounding percentage. :roll:

[Akrazotile]

Dude just dropped true rebounding percentage. :roll:
:milton

[34-24 Footwork]

JJ Berea and Jason Terry deserve finals MVP for locking down Lebron James in the finals. I agree:cheers:

[Straight_Ballin]

Meltdown.

[kennethgriffin]

it wasnt even so much an iggy style fmvp. kawhi just outplayed everyone on the spurs offensively and had a more important job on defense than tony parker

it wasnt so much that kawhi shut down lebron. its that lebron was denied the ball and passed allot when kawhi was on him.


lebron just protected his fg% allot during the 2014 finals.

iggys the only guy out of the 2 that lebron actually forced it with taking tough fade aways at 25% beyond 5 feet



there was no stephen currys on the spurs averaging 26ppg.


both parker and kawhi were at 18 or 19ppg


so they just gave it to the guy who made it tougher for lebron

[bobopenguin]

why cant bron family just accept this fact: time to jump this sinking ship, cos 2/7 is coming. earlier u do, easier for u. dont be another silk or dubeta.

[imdaman99]

Lebron padded his stats when the 2 guys weren't even guarding him. He was shook when they were, and voters noticed :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Dude just dropped true rebounding percentage. :roll:

thats not an uncommonly used or flawed metric though


Lebron padded his stats when the 2 guys weren't even guarding him. He was shook when they were, and voters noticed :lol

:facepalm

cmon mang

[feyki]

Kawhi - %75 TS , 1.6 Steals , 1.2 Blocks , 101 drtg , 2 To , 136 ortg

Lebron - %68 TS , 2 steals , 0.4 blocks , 116 drtg , 4 To , 120 ortg .

[GIF REACTION]

Kawhi - %75 TS , 1.6 Steals , 1.2 Blocks , 101 drtg , 2 To , 136 ortg

Lebron - %68 TS , 2 steals , 0.4 blocks , 116 drtg , 4 To , 120 ortg .
Thanks for proving Lebron had no help

[SouBeachTalents]

Kawhi - %75 TS , 1.6 Steals , 1.2 Blocks , 101 drtg , 2 To , 136 ortg

Lebron - %68 TS , 2 steals , 0.4 blocks , 116 drtg , 4 To , 120 ortg .

:facepalm One of the worst and most disingenuous arguments I've ever seen in my life

[Naero]

The superficial box-score stats aren't reflective of Kawhi Leonard's defense, but more in-depth stats are illustrative of his impact. LeBron was provenly more hesitant to score while covered by Leonard, as he shot the ball less, had less touches, and more turnovers while under his clamps; that was instrumental, as Leonard curbed him from stopping the bleeding while the Spurs made their game-sealing runs—including in Game 3, whereby the Heat cut the Spurs' lead to as low as 7 in the third quarter, while LeBron was mostly disengaged.

Moreover, it's not just defense that landed Leonard the Bill Russell award; he was also offensively their best player (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-finals-heat-vs-spurs.html), having averaged 17.8 PPG on a 75.3% TS%. He started off the series slow, but his offensive outbursts turned the series around in the Spurs' stranglehold from Game 3 and onwards; before then, the Heat's 3-peat—who were undefeated at home in that year's playoffs—seemed more than doable, as they stole Game 2 on the road and managed to take the Spurs to task in Game 1 before LeBron cramped out.

As for Andre Iguodola's MVP: yes, that was predicated mostly on his defensive work on LeBron, but that was more of a product of media concoctions and hyperbole than it was meritocratic; everyone knows that it belonged to Stephen Curry in the grand scheme.

Iguodola was not even entertained as a Finals MVP candidate until he was inserted into the starting lineup in a pivotal Game 4 win, wherein he held LeBron to a series-low 20 points, and while Curry had yet to have a true breakout game in the series.

It was this chronological sequence that lent itself into the narrative, which the media came entrenched in throughout the rest of the series—not to be dissuaded by Curry's legendary Game 5 performance in a pivotal win. Had Curry swapped his Game 2 chokefest with his Game 5 outburst, I guarantee that he'd have his first Finals MVP on his resume already, because the early-series narratives contributed more to Finals MVP-voting than the totality of the series did.

[T_L_P]

Eh, I'm sure LeBron wouldn't have wanted the award in 2014, because you're obviously not going to give it to the guy who was apart of the biggest beatdown in Finals history (by margin of points).

[Fire Colangelo]

Eh, I'm sure LeBron wouldn't have wanted the award in 2014, because you're obviously not going to give it to the guy who was apart of the biggest beatdown in Finals history (by margin of points).

I honestly don't think players care much for the awards (especially if they're on the losing team).

What good would a FMVP be if no ring came with him?

Only on ISH does this shit actually matter

[Andrei89]

Kawhi deserved the finals mvp because he was the best player on the winning team.

And while he did not have Lebron "shook" like these insecure laker tards are saying, he did limit Lebron's offensive game more than any player in the league at the time probably could.

Well deserved FMVP as was Iguadala's

[kennethgriffin]

Thanks for proving Lebron had no help


LeGM coulda had wiggins as a teammate in the finals

but he forced him out of town


owell

[Spurs5Rings2014]

it wasnt even so much an iggy style fmvp. kawhi just outplayed everyone on the spurs offensively and had a more important job on defense than tony parker

it wasnt so much that kawhi shut down lebron. its that lebron was denied the ball and passed allot when kawhi was on him.


lebron just protected his fg% allot during the 2014 finals.

iggys the only guy out of the 2 that lebron actually forced it with taking tough fade aways at 25% beyond 5 feet



there was no stephen currys on the spurs averaging 26ppg.


both parker and kawhi were at 18 or 19ppg


so they just gave it to the guy who made it tougher for lebron

Duncan clearly deserved the FMVP and yet you conveniently ignore his contributions.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Blue&Orange]

How incredible is this? Seriously.

In 2014 Lebron James averaged 28 points on 57% shooting.
TRB% was 14, AST% was 25. Also averaged 2 steals per game.

Kawhi Leonard? 17 points on 60%.
TRB% was 13, AST% was 10. Averaged less than 1 steal per game.


Lebron was BY FAR the most 'valuable' player playing in the series. It wasn't even a contest. But because the Spurs won, they simply gave the award to the guy who at least TRIED to guard him and couldn't :lol


In 2015...

The exact same thing happened :roll:



Why is this thing still called the Bill Russell FMVP? Please rename it the King James FMVP. They basically just auto-give it to anyone willing to lie down in front of the bulldozer, even if they get plowed :oldlol:


Thanks for your attention. Looking forward to lively discussion :applause:
Maybe because Lebron was nowhere to be found when the game mattered, he only showed up when the game was a blowout Kawhi Leonard was on the bech with the rest of spurs starting five, and Spurs center was Matt Bonner.

The Greatest display of statppading in garbage time in the Finals, ever!

Lebron is the GOAT statpadder.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Maybe because Lebron was nowhere to be found when the game mattered, he only showed up when the game was a blowout Kawhi Leonard was on the bech with the rest of spurs starting five, and Spurs center was Matt Bonner.

The Greatest display of statppading in garbage time in the Finals, ever!

Lebron is the GOAT statpadder.

Did people forget his '13 finals? First few games, dude was atrocious when the games were close. He would purposefully stay in 4th quarters after the games were decided and statpad. Did this for 3-4 games and watching it, his stats were pedestrian at best outside of his garbage time stat padding.

[knicksman]

More like im a bran stan masquerading as media. Im ashamed of myself for hyping bran to be the next jordan. But im gonna save face and make the defender win FMVP

[Wally450]

The bigger question is will LeBron James get the Barry Bonds treatment and be excluded from the Hall of Fame for PED abuse?

MELTDOWN!

[knicksman]

Maybe because Lebron was nowhere to be found when the game mattered, he only showed up when the game was a blowout Kawhi Leonard was on the bech with the rest of spurs starting five, and Spurs center was Matt Bonner.

The Greatest display of statppading in garbage time in the Finals, ever!

Lebron is the GOAT statpadder.

Honestly, the guy is a loser. No competitive player would still try to statpad in a blowout. Competitive players wouldve been so pissed at that moment that they have no time in thinking about statpadding. LOL

[deja vu]

It sucks that making life a little bit difficult for LeBron gets you a Finals MVP now.

[AirBonner]

It sucks that making life a little bit difficult for LeBron gets you a Finals MVP now.
a little more difficult? he had a fg% of .398 :facepalm

[34-24 Footwork]

It sucks that making life a little bit difficult for LeBron gets you a Finals MVP now.


2007 Spurs say hi.:rolleyes: