How many rings would Bron had if he never....

[Real14]

...played with Wade and bosh?

[bobopenguin]

...played with Wade and bosh?

if it wasnt bosh or wade, he would end up with melo and CP3, or Kobe and shaq. The guy will try his hardest to join forces.
so at least 1/3 ring for him.

[Real14]

if it wasnt bosh or wade, he would end up with melo and CP3, or Kobe and shaq. The guy will try his hardest to join forces.
so at least 1/3 ring for him.
What if he only played with one star tho?

[Sportal]

This is stupid.

What if the Cavs front office weren't so incompetent?

What if the best player the Cavs brought in was better than Mo Williams, and actually a regular all-star?

Can I just ask what more could he have done? I know you're happy having a player that's just happy with stupid amounts of money for zero results. But really? The Cavs might NEVER have recruited anyone that was a legit second option.

Practically everyone that has ever won a ring, has had a fantastic 2nd option, that could be the #1 elsewhere. Or an amazingly balanced team.

So many teams over the years have tried to do what Miami and others have done. There have been a lot of failures, the Knicks, with Amare/Melo, the Lakers with Kobe/Dwight/Nash, would you be talking shit about LeBron if the Lakers got CP3 too?

To answer the question directly, Wade and LeBron might’ve won some rings. They probably still would've beaten OKC. So, 1, at the very least, maybe they could've made the team better with the money that Bosh got? More shooters? A center?

[Spurs m8]

Even if he played with Wade and Bosh, he'd only have 1 without Ray

[JohnMax]

He needs 2 other stars + 3pt shooters to win with Lebron ball.

[Akrazotile]

Hed at least have one big studded cawk ring to fukk OP's mom in the mouth with. That much we know.

[bobopenguin]

[QUOTE=Sportal]This is stupid.

What if the Cavs front office weren't so incompetent?

What if the best player the Cavs brought in was better than Mo Williams, and actually a regular all-star?

Can I just ask what more could he have done? I know you're happy having a player that's just happy with stupid amounts of money for zero results. But really? The Cavs might NEVER have recruited anyone that was a legit second option.

Practically everyone that has ever won a ring, has had a fantastic 2nd option, that could be the #1 elsewhere. Or an amazingly balanced team.

So many teams over the years have tried to do what Miami and others have done. There have been a lot of failures, the Knicks, with Amare/Melo, the Lakers with Kobe/Dwight/Nash, would you be talking shit about LeBron if the Lakers got CP3 too?

To answer the question directly, Wade and LeBron might

[Sportal]

2010-2011 dallas.
who is legitimate 2nd option that can #1 option in other team?

butler? jason terry? or 37yrs old kidd? or tyson chandler?

Then were they not a balanced team?

[kennethgriffin]

the heat would have won in 2011 if they signed someone other than lebron. so thats 1 ring

2012 for sure.. 2 rings

then they probably lose to the spurs 2 years in a row

so it would have been the same result except the cavs wouldnt have had all those free lottery picks

lebron is most definitely ringless



so ring chasing literally is the only reason he has a career to speak of. and thus.... quite lame

[bobopenguin]

Then were they not a balanced team?

balanced, yes, but amazingly balanced.. no.. everyone performed, that was the main reason. Instead of amazingly worked as one unity, i rather see it as, no one fked up, knew their role, and worked together.

[Kvnzhangyay]

the heat would have won in 2011 if they signed someone other than lebron. so thats 1 ring

2012 for sure.. 2 rings

then they probably lose to the spurs 2 years in a row

so it would have been the same result except the cavs wouldnt have had all those free lottery picks

lebron is most definitely ringless



so ring chasing literally is the only reason he has a career to speak of. and thus.... quite lame

they wouldn't even get to the finals in 2012 without Lebron :wtf:

In addition, Melo would most likely team up with Lebron if he didn't join Miami

Too many variables for anyone's opinion (including mine) to be trusted, and anyone saying differently is clueless

[kennethgriffin]

they wouldn't even get to the finals in 2012 without Lebron :wtf:

In addition, Melo would most likely team up with Lebron if he didn't join Miami

Too many variables for anyone's opinion (including mine) to be trusted, and anyone saying differently is clueless


really? the heat had 14 mill extra to find a lebron replacement and they dont make the finals out the east?
really?

common lol

[bobopenguin]

they wouldn't even get to the finals in 2012 without Lebron :wtf:

In addition, Melo would most likely team up with Lebron if he didn't join Miami

Too many variables for anyone's opinion (including mine) to be trusted, and anyone saying differently is clueless

pls dude, bosh himself carried a team to playoff. bosh + wade + few solid pieces can definitely make to final back then.

[Kvnzhangyay]

pls dude, bosh himself carried a team to playoff. bosh + wade + few solid pieces can definitely make to final back then.

True, but what would replace Lebron's crucial game 6 performance? Obviously this is a horrible way to compare, but if a replacement replaced Lebron, who would have a similar performance?

Just my opinions

[plowking]

How do people try and talk down a player who went to the finals 5 times in a row, 6 overall, and was literally the sole reason they made the finals a few times?

Seriously asking here.

[kennethgriffin]

How do people try and talk down a player who went to the finals 5 times in a row, 6 overall, and was literally the sole reason they made the finals a few times?

Seriously asking here.


because he did it by ring chasing during a time when the east was at its absolute worst in 60 years

losing 3 of those 5. and 4 of the 6 overall

[SouBeachTalents]

pls dude, bosh himself carried a team to playoff. bosh + wade + few solid pieces can definitely make to final back then.

Lol, Bosh missed the playoffs 5/7 years on the Raptors and won a grand total of 3 playoff games. That's hardly anything to brag about

[Angel Face]

He was one Ray Allen shot away from being 1/6 in the finals. Lucky for him, Jesus' clutch heroics kept him away from a more embarrassing finals record. Well, 2/6 is still embarrassing for a player with his talent + collusions.

[Hittin_Shots]

really? the heat had 14 mill extra to find a lebron replacement and they dont make the finals out the east?
really?

common lol

LeBron doesn't leave Cleveland and go Miami, Boston make the finals, what argument against this do u have?

[Wally450]

Isn't the goal in sports to win a championship? Why do so many people berate a player when goes to greener pastures to win a championship? Whether it be in his prime or later in his career.

[aj1987]

really? the heat had 14 mill extra to find a lebron replacement and they dont make the finals out the east?
really?

common lol
How the **** are you gonna replace the best player in the world (in '12) for $14M? It's like saying you could've replaced Kobe with an MLE player and the Lakers still would've 3peat'd.

[DrakeTheSnake]

If he stayed on the Cavs: 0

Salary issues would have made the Cavs worse than in the late 2000s. Meanwhile, Miami would still have been the best team in the East with Bosh/Wade, so LeBron loses in the ECF year after year.