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CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgaZZl_GVg

I looked up first rap song and seriously, this song is credited as the first ever rap under the definition that she spoke all verses and only sang the chorus.

Can anyone find an older rap? If not it means a white girl from the 50's brought rap to the mainstream :roll:

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:48 AM
OP link is a live performance, original recording sounds more like a rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gFOzaSQY6Q

DCL
12-11-2015, 07:51 AM
no :lol

iamgine
12-11-2015, 07:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvCCWcR5dM

9erempiree
12-11-2015, 07:54 AM
She was dropping some bars.

This is why I said whites were so influential in black music.

Just look at guys like Elvis Presley and his influence on black music.

9erempiree
12-11-2015, 07:55 AM
OP link is a live performance, original recording sounds more like a rap

It's rap you dolt.

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvCCWcR5dM
Here's the original without a modern beat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSDzqFJnp8

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and agree that's def rap, and it's way older (1937). How mainstream did it get? That song in the OP became top 3 on the charts in 1959. Maybe it's the first ever mainstream or top charts rap.

Real Men Wear Green
12-11-2015, 08:05 AM
Rap has origins going back to Africa. (http://www.plasticlittleraps.com/history-of-rap-music.html) Whatever tho.

GIF REACTION
12-11-2015, 08:33 AM
Rap is actually dated as far back as medeival times

Some account it was the West African Griots during the days of the Mali Empire from about the 14th century onward... Some say it originated in Medieval Scottish Pubs in the 16th century...

My opinion? Rap is defined in such a basic manner, that I am sure that elements of origin can be traced back to Before Christ.

fiddy
12-11-2015, 08:38 AM
The origins of rap come from Egypt, just look at all the SWAG on those pharaohs

TheMan
12-11-2015, 08:42 AM
She was dropping some bars.

This is why I said whites were so influential in black music.

Just look at guys like Elvis Presley and his influence on black music.
:facepalm

I'm sure you're trolling, you really can't be this dumb.

Presley was the Eminem of his day, took a music that was originally made by "the" blacks (as Trump say :lol ), and ran with it.

He was influenced by black artists, not the other way around.

And if rap was created by a white girl, rock was invented by blacks so it evens out.

GIF REACTION
12-11-2015, 08:53 AM
Aren't you Mexican

NumberSix
12-11-2015, 01:01 PM
:facepalm

I'm sure you're trolling, you really can't be this dumb.

Presley was the Eminem of his day, took a music that was originally made by "the" blacks (as Trump say :lol ), and ran with it.

He was influenced by black artists, not the other way around.

And if rap was created by a white girl, rock was invented by blacks so it evens out.
Yes, we should all thank the blacks for inventing guitars and Celtic folk music which rock, blues, etc... is based on. The blacks clearly invented all music from scratch.


:rolleyes:

KevinNYC
12-11-2015, 01:17 PM
Presley was the Eminem of his day, took a music that was originally made by "the" blacks (as Trump say :lol ), and ran with it.

This doesn't work on a lot of levels, but the timing is just weird. Timing-wise Eminem is closer to the Beatles than to Elvis. Elvis came out very early to the Big Bang of Rock and Roll...(as opposed to Blues). Elvis's first record comes out before Chuck Berry's. Before Little Richard's first hit.



Also that first song is not rap.

Facepalm
12-11-2015, 01:17 PM
Black artists like Chuck Berry and James Brown owe their entire careers to Elvis Presley. He was a true trailblazer and inspired generations of black entertainers.

Lebowsky
12-11-2015, 01:28 PM
I don't know about first rap, but that's a damn catchy song.

KevinNYC
12-11-2015, 01:43 PM
Black artists like Chuck Berry and James Brown owe their entire careers to Elvis Presley. He was a true trailblazer and inspired generations of black entertainers.

He's no Sister Rosetta Tharpe, but he's good.


Chuck Berry based his first hit on an old Bob Wills and Texas Playboys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maybellene) song.

tmacattack33
12-11-2015, 01:53 PM
Here's the original without a modern beat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSDzqFJnp8

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and agree that's def rap, and it's way older (1937). How mainstream did it get? That song in the OP became top 3 on the charts in 1959. Maybe it's the first ever mainstream or top charts rap.


Mind = Blown.


And wow, That sounded just like early rappers...grandmaster flash and all them. The way their voice would get higher at the end of each bar to emphasize the last word.

Shade8780
12-11-2015, 02:44 PM
fire

she got a mixtape? link?

senelcoolidge
12-11-2015, 03:00 PM
Dodie Stevens is enshrined in the Music Hall of Fame for Hip Hop.

Akrazotile
12-11-2015, 03:22 PM
Doesnt matter who 'invented' it.