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Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 06:19 PM
CavsFTW claims that Wilt ran a 4.6 40 yard dash. Redditor responds

Right. If you're running the 100 yrds in 10.9 you aren't running the 40 in 4.6. 100 yards is shorter than 100 M by about 9%, so his 100 M time would be close to 11.8 seconds, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 11.7s. Using data of known 100 M/40 yrd dash times, this would estimate to be close to a 4.8 40. And since he's bigger and the last 60 should be faster than the first 40 when compared to a non-freak, even this is being generous.

And this doesn't even take into account that it was handtimed.. so it's probably closer to 5.1ish. CuckFTW exposed

TommyGriffin
12-11-2015, 06:24 PM
CavsFTL getting ethered on ISH and reddit

:applause:

Cocaine80s
12-11-2015, 06:26 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude is the main bitch of two forums now

Dro
12-11-2015, 06:27 PM
Who cares, 90% of his posts are still more relevant, helpful and add more to the forum than most of these trolls/children...

sd3035
12-11-2015, 06:30 PM
lol CavsFTL is like a human pin cushion

warriorfan
12-11-2015, 06:31 PM
Who cares, 90% of his posts are still more relevant, helpful and add more to the forum than most of these trolls/children...

Cav's posts are more trollish than anyone on the forum with maybe the exception of dubeta...

TripleA
12-11-2015, 06:31 PM
Wilt was a insane athlete for his size.
Over 50 foot triple jump
22 running broad jump.

LoneyROY7
12-11-2015, 06:33 PM
:yaohappy:

Take this wiLt.

Dro
12-11-2015, 06:39 PM
Cav's posts are more trollish than anyone on the forum with maybe the exception of dubeta...
That's a joke. Hell, if all we had were his videos, thats still a better topic than most of the trash on this forum. Children wouldn't even know anything before 1990 probably if dudes like him didn't exist tbh...

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 06:45 PM
CavsFTW claims that Wilt ran a 4.6 40 yard dash. Redditor responds

And this doesn't even take into account that it was handtimed.. so it's probably closer to 5.1ish. CuckFTW exposed
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2GluMXlNGew/VbCOXqAd4LI/AAAAAAAAGu8/kGMrqGKXHTc/s800-Ic42/wilt%25252010%252520second%252520100%252520yard2.j pg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tDn7lBlbaC8/T1BIb5WnVRI/AAAAAAAADIM/L7D28hRYEzY/s1280-Ic42/Wilt%252520Chamberlain%252520football.jpg

He PR'd at 10.0 not 10.9

/thread

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 06:47 PM
lol CavsFTL is like a human pin cushion
My reddit post went to the front page and people gave me reddit gold.

My YouTube channel is nearing 7 million views.

People make threads about me on ISH.

I'm just taking L's left and right. Pity me :(

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:13 PM
My reddit post went to the front page and people gave me reddit gold.

My YouTube channel is nearing 7 million views.

People make threads about me on ISH.

I'm just taking L's left and right. Pity me :(
"Look at me! I'm super popular on the internet!"
You're a ****ing joke :roll:

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:17 PM
"Look at me! I'm super popular on the internet!"
You're a ****ing joke :roll:
I'm curious, are you faster than Wilt Chamberlain? You run the 400 you said. He did a 440y (even longer than 400m) in 48.9. Would he smoke you in a race?

Levity
12-11-2015, 07:17 PM
"Look at me! I'm super popular on the internet!"
You're a ****ing joke :roll:

jam jam, thats not very nice...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391845

:(

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:19 PM
jam jam, thats not very nice...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391845

:(
...:roll:

coin24
12-11-2015, 07:21 PM
jam jam, thats not very nice...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391845

:(


Between all his alts and zero sex life I'm sure jameerqueer will have the most posts in forum history soon:oldlol:

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:22 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2GluMXlNGew/VbCOXqAd4LI/AAAAAAAAGu8/kGMrqGKXHTc/s800-Ic42/wilt%25252010%252520second%252520100%252520yard2.j pg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tDn7lBlbaC8/T1BIb5WnVRI/AAAAAAAADIM/L7D28hRYEzY/s1280-Ic42/Wilt%252520Chamberlain%252520football.jpg

He PR'd at 10.0 not 10.9

/thread
Link to the 10.0 book? Because EVERYWHERE ELSE cites it as 10.9 in COLLEGE

TripleA
12-11-2015, 07:22 PM
I'm curious, are you faster than Wilt Chamberlain? You run the 400 you said. He did a 440y (even longer than 400m) in 48.9. Would he smoke you in a race?

For a 7 ft that is insane. Most legitimate 7ft can barely move out of bed.

dubeta
12-11-2015, 07:24 PM
According to Cavs, Wilt is faster than LeBron and stronger than Shaq, while jumping higher than Gerald Green :roll: :roll: :roll:


dem 23 inch biceps doe :lol :lol

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:25 PM
This is where Wikipedia cited the 10.9 in college claim: https://web.archive.org/web/20060322102809/http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/chamberl.shtml

navy
12-11-2015, 07:27 PM
To be honest you cant estimated Wilts 40 time because he is top speed not short speed. I never knew CavsFTW was using his 100

HurricaneKid
12-11-2015, 07:28 PM
This is where Wikipedia cited the 10.9 in college claim: https://web.archive.org/web/20060322102809/http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/chamberl.shtml

And he showed you the article that said 10.0.

He sure did embarrass you in your thread designed to embarrass him Jammers...

$LakerGold
12-11-2015, 07:28 PM
jam jam, thats not very nice...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391845

:(
Eat shit, Jam. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


LMFAO

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:28 PM
Here's the book that said 10.0: African-American Sports Greats: A Biographical Dictionary. Everywhere else says 10.9

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:30 PM
And he showed you the article that said 10.0.

He sure did embarrass you in your thread designed to embarrass him Jammers...
It isn't an article. It's a book. The book is called African-American Sports Greats: A Biographical Dictionary. There's no other source for his claim. Everywhere else says something different.

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 07:34 PM
It isn't an article. It's a book. The book is called African-American Sports Greats: A Biographical Dictionary. There's no other source for his claim. Everywhere else says something different.
I believe I also have newspaper articles that cite 10 flat I'll look when I get home from work.

Think about it Jam. You made a thread based on someone saying that 4.6 isn't possible because of 10.9 not being fast enough. The 4.6 was timed by a HOF pro football coach though. The 10.9 numbers were being cited as early as 1954 when Wilt was a teenager in high school.

So which is more likely. That the HOF pro football coach who worked Wilt out for weeks and weeks and marveled at his athleticism was wrong? Or that the 10.9 number is not actually Wilt at his fastest in 100 yards? Don't you think Stram would have timed him a couple of times just to make sure he was getting a good approximation of Wilt's speed before he'd tell anyone?

:hammerhead:

Jameerthefear
12-11-2015, 07:38 PM
I believe I also have newspaper articles that cite 10 flat I'll look when I get home from work.

Think about it Jam. You made a thread based on someone saying that 4.6 isn't possible because of 10.9 not being fast enough. The 4.6 was timed by a HOF pro football coach though. The 10.9 numbers were being cited as early as 1954 when Wilt was a teenager in high school.

So which is more likely. That the HOF pro football coach who worked Wilt out for weeks and weeks and marveled at his athleticism was wrong? Or that the 10.9 number is not actually Wilt at his fastest in 100 yards?

:hammerhead:
Handtimed doesn't mean anything. It means literally jackshit.
Here's a study on the error https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0164/8082/files/Combine_Hand_Start_v_FAT_Start_40_yard_dash_Analys is_Paper.pdf

You want to prove your shit, prove it.

ballinhun8
12-11-2015, 08:12 PM
Jameer is a joke much like the first few posters that laughed in this thread.


Cavs is actually a respected poster here compared to people who error for the team he roots for

warriorfan
12-11-2015, 08:17 PM
Handtimed doesn't mean anything. It means literally jackshit.
Here's a study on the error https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0164/8082/files/Combine_Hand_Start_v_FAT_Start_40_yard_dash_Analys is_Paper.pdf

You want to prove your shit, prove it.

http://s16.postimg.org/xr2civr91/mountainlion.png

look bro, wilt ran those times and he also wrestled a mountain lion...it's legit

oarabbus
12-11-2015, 08:21 PM
Handtimed doesn't mean anything. It means literally jackshit.
Here's a study on the error https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0164/8082/files/Combine_Hand_Start_v_FAT_Start_40_yard_dash_Analys is_Paper.pdf

You want to prove your shit, prove it.


Jameer is actually right about this.

Cavs, didn't you say you ran track at some point? If so you should know how garbage handtiming is for any distance under 800m (it's workable for 400m, assuming the runner is no faster than 48-50s, but still not ideal)

Also, 100 yards is 91.4m; Wilt running a 10 second flat 100 yards is .109 seconds per meter, which is 10.9 seconds for 100 meters. The reddit poster clearly mixed up yards and meters it seems like. Wilt didn't run a 10.9 100-yard, he ran a 10.9 pace 100m, for 100 yards. America (particularly high schools/colleges) didn't go to 400m tracks until quite a bit later.

Of course, if 10.0 flat was his maximum 100yd time, he wouldn't be able to keep that pace up for an extra 10% distance, so we can reasonably assume his 10s 100-yard is equivalent to a 11 second 100m (instead of 10.9s). Quite fast indeed and VERY impressive for someone 7', but IMO the hand-timing could throw this off quite a bit.

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 08:25 PM
Jameer is actually right about this.

Cavs, didn't you say you ran track at some point? If so you should know how garbage handtiming is for any distance under 800m (it's workable for 400m, assuming the runner is no faster than 48-50s, but still not ideal)

Also, 100 yards is 91.4m; Wilt running a 10 second flat 100 yards is .109 seconds per meter, which is 10.9 seconds for 100 meters. The reddit poster clearly mixed up yards and meters it seems like. Wilt didn't run a 10.9 100-yard, he ran a 10.9 pace 100m, for 100 yards. America (particularly high schools/colleges) didn't go to 400m tracks until quite a bit later.

Of course, if 10.0 flat was his maximum 100yd time, he wouldn't be able to keep that pace up for an extra 10% distance, so we can reasonably assume his 10s 100-yard is equivalent to a 11 second 100m. Quite fast indeed and very impressive, but IMO the hand-timing could throw this off quite a bit.
It doesn't matter if hand time data is "garbage" (your opinion) or not.

The point is, I provided data that was available from that time that is in fact consistent. A guy who runs a 4.6 40 could likely run a 10.0 100yard. Which could likely run a 20.9 220. Which could likely run a 48.9. etc etc.

Jams trying to make "exposed" claims based on inconsistencies of what he thinks is the only available data. The problem is the people who find such inconsistencies don't actually have all the data I have. Because google search isn't going to bring up these numbers. Google is only as valuable as the data that has been made widely available on the internet and contrary to the belief of some the correct or full variety of answers of historical events doesn't always jump to the first page on a google search.

oarabbus
12-11-2015, 08:30 PM
It doesn't matter if hand time data is "garbage" (your opinion) or not.

The point is, I provided data that was available from that time that is in fact consistent. A guy who runs a 4.6 40 could likely run a 10.0 100yard. Which could likely run a 20.9 220. Which could likely run a 48.9. etc etc.

Jams trying to make "exposed" claims based on inconsistencies of what he thinks is the only available data. The problem is the people who find such inconsistencies don't actually have all the data I have. Because google search isn't going to bring up these numbers. Google is only as valuable as the data that has made available on the internet and contrary to popular believe the correct or full variety of answers of historical events don't always jump to the first pages on a google search.


Ok, I agreed with you about the 10.0 100yd. I also agree that it is very impressive, and what you are saying about the difficulty of finding some of the historical data.

But the bolded? That's just plain ignorance. Don't make it something personal saying it's my opinion when it clearly isn't. It's as much of a fact that hand-timing is unreliable as it is a fact that Wilt never fouled out of an NBA game.


Hand times, those with humans operating the stopping and/or starting mechanisms, are highly prone to error. By rule, they are only accurate to a tenth (.1) of a second, so all 100ths of a second beyond zero must be rounded to the next highest tenth.[4]

Many track and field statisticians use a conversion factor estimate of 0.24 seconds added to any hand-timed mark in the 100 m or 200 m event, and 0.14 seconds to any hand-timed mark in the 400 m or longer event.

. These conversion factors are only applicable for comparing marks from a variety of sources, but are not acceptable for Record purposes. In the case of comparing an adjusted manual time to FAT timing, an original FAT time being equivalent, the FAT time will be considered more accurate, and thus the athlete will be given the higher seed, or comparison ranking.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20072055

http://www.mpnnow.com/article/20110424/News/304249968

https://www.freelapusa.com/why-athletes-should-not-be-hand-timed-for-speed/

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25073644/nfl-combine-real-time-40s-to-be-used-for-first-time

jongib369
12-11-2015, 08:31 PM
It doesn't matter if hand time data is "garbage" (your opinion) or not.

The point is, I provided data that was available from that time that is in fact consistent. A guy who runs a 4.6 40 could likely run a 10.0 100yard. Which could likely run a 20.9 220. Which could likely run a 48.9. etc etc.

Jams trying to make "exposed" claims based on inconsistencies of what he thinks is the only available data. The problem is the people who find such inconsistencies don't actually have all the data I have. Because google search isn't going to bring up these numbers. Google is only as valuable as the data that has been made widely available on the internet and contrary to the belief of some the correct or full variety of answers of historical events doesn't always jump to the first page on a google search.
A second is a decent amount of distance, I'm sure he wouldn't of hit it that early. It's probably not exact, but I believe it was within a second of the time you're saying. The fact that someone that big could be within a second of that is astounding,

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 08:32 PM
Ok, I agreed with you about the 10.0 100yd. And I also agree that it is very impressive.

But the bolded? That's just plain ignorance. Don't make it something personal when it clearly isn't.
Sorry, I still don't think it's garbage. Hand time is not as accurate, but it's also not garbage.

It isn't personal unless you take it that way.

oarabbus
12-11-2015, 08:36 PM
Sorry, I still don't think it's garbage. Hand time is not as accurate, but it's also not garbage.

It isn't personal unless you take it that way.


I meant personal as in you saying it's my personal opinion, I wasn't suggesting it was a personal attack. Clearly 'personal' was the wrong word to use :lol

Anyway, are you willing to add .24 seconds to Wilt's time as is standard practice by Track and Field statisticians for hand-timed 100m runs? If not, you're just picking and choosing the data where it suits you (and suits Wilt)

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 08:46 PM
I meant personal as in you saying it's my personal opinion, I wasn't suggesting it was a personal attack. Clearly 'personal' was the wrong word to use :lol

Anyway, are you willing to add .24 seconds to Wilt's time as is standard practice by Track and Field statisticians for hand-timed 100m runs? If not, you're just picking and choosing the data where it suits you (and suits Wilt)
Does my image not state hand-timed?

Does the post not state hand-timed?

Why would I even bother mentioning that it was hand timed? Are you aware I could have just omitted those key words?

You guys are always on a witch hunt to find reasons not to respect data I provide or my opinions that might follow suit. I get it, it's part of the territory of providing information.

But I provide all the relevant details and back up things that I say with sources. I wouldn't say hand timed, if I didn't think it was important to say. Just like I wouldn't provide the years which they were timed if I didn't think it was also important to say (Shaq being 37 years old at the time puts him at a significant disadvantage).

Point being, you need not constantly dog me on my intentions to post unbiased and/or comprehensive data. Anyone who wants to challenge information, hold it with a grain of salt, or straight up not believe it it does not matter to me anyone is free to believe what they want. All I do is try to provide the data and where it came from. It's not even about proof for me, it's just bodies of evidence nothing of course is a proof when simply documented in text form 40 years ago. I do not omit important details and I do understand all that they imply including that hand timing is not as accurate as modern timing.

Cocaine80s
12-11-2015, 09:27 PM
Cavaliersftw you are just an average white boy with mediocre length & athleticism, why are you so obsessed with the bbc?

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 08:19 AM
Right. If you're running the 100 yrds in 10.9 you aren't running the 40 in 4.6. 100 yards is shorter than 100 M by about 9%, so his 100 M time would be close to 11.8 seconds, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 11.7s. Using data of known 100 M/40 yrd dash times, this would estimate to be close to a 4.8 40. And since he's bigger and the last 60 should be faster than the first 40 when compared to a non-freak, even this is being generous.

I ran track for 7 years, and if Wilt's 400 time (440) is sub 49, no way in hell he only ran the equivalent of 11.8 in the 100m.

Also, there is this video:

https://usatsneakhype.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/wilt-chamberlain-was-fast.gif

Wilt, at least in his younger days, was fast. Real fast for a 7 footer.

T_L_P
12-12-2015, 08:36 AM
^You're using sped up clips.

SyRyanYang
12-12-2015, 09:51 AM
Who cares, 90% of his posts are still more relevant, helpful and add more to the forum than most of these trolls/children...
At least some troll are funny. He adds no value to the discussion.

SyRyanYang
12-12-2015, 09:53 AM
My reddit post went to the front page and people gave me reddit gold.

My YouTube channel is nearing 7 million views.

People make threads about me on ISH.

I'm just taking L's left and right. Pity me :(


WOW that's just pathetic. Even for an old timer.

jongib369
12-12-2015, 02:52 PM
https://usatsneakhype.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/wilt-chamberlain-was-fast.gif


^You're using sped up clips.


https://youtu.be/S8JuK2dVky0?t=50s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B22U73v7kAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGvZWqf8OY4

Straight_Ballin
12-12-2015, 02:56 PM
Who cares, 90% of his posts are still more relevant, helpful and add more to the forum than most of these trolls/children...

This. Gotta respect a guy who dominates the two posters on here that have 20 account between them with over 300K posts. CavsFTW makes them his b1tch on the regular. :applause:

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 04:34 PM
This. Gotta respect a guy who dominates the two posters on here that have 20 account between them with over 300K posts. CavsFTW makes them his b1tch on the regular. :applause:

I get having one maybe two alts just for the lulz and when you feel like playing devil's advocate but would get called out for it. But who in the hell needs 20?

Jameerthefear
12-12-2015, 04:46 PM
I get having one maybe two alts just for the lulz and when you feel like playing devil's advocate but would get called out for it. But who in the hell needs 20?
this is literally the only account that i use consistently. the only other is millslapped

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 05:38 PM
Wait, what the hell...he claims Wilt ran a 4.6 40?

Is he really actually insane?

I got timed at a 4.5 when I was in high school (not playing any sports at the time), and instantly they wanted to make me a WR/TE.

This clown actually thinks Wilt could run at WR/TE speeds?

Seriously? Is he out of his mind? Guys half the size of Wilt and that were playing sports for many years could not run that speed.

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 05:44 PM
Wait, what the hell...he claims Wilt ran a 4.6 40?

Is he really actually insane?

Hank Stram, the former HOF Chiefs coach made that claim.


I got timed at a 4.5 when I was in high school (not playing any sports at the time), and instantly they wanted to make me a WR/TE.

This clown actually thinks Wilt could run at WR/TE speeds?

Seriously? Is he out of his mind? Guys half the size of Wilt and that were playing sports for many years could not run that speed.

Yeah, the thing about Wilt is that he was a freakish athlete. Would you be shocked if David Robinson could do that in his athletic prime?

jongib369
12-12-2015, 05:46 PM
Wait, what the hell...he claims Wilt ran a 4.6 40?

Is he really actually insane?

I got timed at a 4.5 when I was in high school (not playing any sports at the time), and instantly they wanted to make me a WR/TE.

This clown actually thinks Wilt could run at WR/TE speeds?

Seriously? Is he out of his mind? Guys half the size of Wilt and that were playing sports for many years could not run that speed.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yZMMMZQaPAY/Ug0KaC98oiI/AAAAAAAAEjU/Q9Yo5zcGDpw/s640/Sequence%252001.Still003.jpg

Henry Louis "Hank" Stram (/ˈstr

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 05:49 PM
Hank Stram, the former HOF Chiefs coach made that claim.



Yeah, the thing about Wilt is that he was a freakish athlete. Would you be shocked if David Robinson could do that in his athletic prime?

I know he was a freak athlete and then some. But 4.6 40 is fast on a football field without pads on. And we are talking about a guy around 7-1 or 7-2 and 275 to 300 pounds.........

That would be something practically inhuman.

Foster5k
12-12-2015, 05:51 PM
CavsFTW: "Wilt could lift ten thousand pounds."

Reddit: "That's humanly impossible."

CavsFTW: "So."

Fallen Angel
12-12-2015, 05:52 PM
Why is OP even stalking people on Reddit?

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 05:54 PM
[QUOTE=jongib369]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yZMMMZQaPAY/Ug0KaC98oiI/AAAAAAAAEjU/Q9Yo5zcGDpw/s640/Sequence%252001.Still003.jpg

Henry Louis "Hank" Stram (/ˈstr

Foster5k
12-12-2015, 05:57 PM
Did he run that 40 time before or after he killed a pack of lions with his bare hands?

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 05:58 PM
It sounds like a bunch of made up bullshit to me. I've seen 4.6 on a football field or a soccer pitch and a guy Wilt's size could not move at that speed.

We're talking about 4.6, not 4.2.

Calvin Johnson ran a 4.3, and he's like 6'5". Vernon Gholston, a DE, ran a 4.67.

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 05:59 PM
Did he run that 40 time before or after he killed a pack of lions with his bare hands?

It was heyenas, brah, and he only shot putted two of them far enough to kill them. Damn ISH ruining legendary stories. :facepalm

TripleA
12-12-2015, 06:00 PM
Johnny Manziel ran a 4.62.
A 4.6 is not a extremely fast time.
A 300 pound line man ran a 4.65
I think wilt could at least run a 4.7

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 06:00 PM
We're talking about 4.6, not 4.2.

Calvin Johnson ran a 4.3, and he's like 6'5". Vernon Gholston, a DE, ran a 4.67.

Dude was 7-1 to 7-2 and supposedly around 275 to 300 pounds in his athletic peak.

Come on now.

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 06:02 PM
Johnny Manziel ran a 4.62.
A 4.6 is not a extremely fast time.
A 300 pound line man ran a 4.65
I think wilt could at least run a 4.7

4.6 is pretty damn good speed even by current NFL standards.

Wilt would have dwarfed any player in NFL history in terms of sheer size.

TripleA
12-12-2015, 06:03 PM
4.6 is pretty damn good speed even by current NFL standards.

Wilt would have dwarfed any player in NFL history in terms of sheer size.

Yeah it's a good time but I think wilt would probably be a 4.65 to 4.75

Marchesk
12-12-2015, 06:06 PM
4.6 is pretty damn good speed even by current NFL standards.

Wilt would have dwarfed any player in NFL history in terms of sheer size.


Ed "Too Tall" Jones was 6'9" 270 lbs. There are some pretty damn big offensive lineman. They're just not basketball tall.

oarabbus
12-12-2015, 06:14 PM
Hank Stram, the former HOF Chiefs coach made that claim.



Yeah, the thing about Wilt is that he was a freakish athlete. Would you be shocked if David Robinson could do that in his athletic prime?


Yes, absolutely

Euroleague
12-12-2015, 06:20 PM
Ed "Too Tall" Jones was 6'9" 270 lbs. There are some pretty damn big offensive lineman. They're just not basketball tall.

The article being cited claimed Wilt was 7-1 290 and ran a 4.6. That's still much bigger than Jones, and did they claim Jones ran a 4.6? I seriously doubt it.

sundizz
12-12-2015, 09:36 PM
My reddit post went to the front page and people gave me reddit gold.

My YouTube channel is nearing 7 million views.

People make threads about me on ISH.

I'm just taking L's left and right. Pity me :(


Calm down virtual superstar, thought you were trying to keep under the radar so the NBA doesn't shut you down :no:

inclinerator
12-12-2015, 09:38 PM
sup dan

Asukal
12-13-2015, 06:06 AM
More wilt myths that has nothing to do with basketball. :rolleyes:

BTW he only won 2 rings while running 40 in 4.6 secs. :yaohappy:

ThickassGlasses
12-13-2015, 10:15 AM
Ed "Too Tall" Jones was 6'9" 270 lbs. There are some pretty damn big offensive lineman. They're just not basketball tall.

While EL isn't the brightest bulb, his overall point holds true.

We know Wilt was fast and a freak athlete, but even using CavsFTW's numbers (which are not the best way to gauge his 40 time) a 4.6 forty would be implausible. Taller guys do not get up to speed as quick as shorter guys (duh) so someone of Wilt's size would have a much more impressive 100 (+) times than a 40 time. Hell even Usain Bolt was told he was too tall to run anything shorter than a 400 when he first got into competitive high level track.

And as stated earlier, hand times are garbage if your using them to compare speeds or estimate other speeds.

feyki
12-13-2015, 10:31 AM
If he ran the 100 meters in 10.9 seconds . He probably could run 40 yard in around between 4.9 - 5.1 seconds . 4.6 seconds looks difficult to do for 10.9 seconds to 100 meters .

jongib369
12-13-2015, 11:36 AM
If he ran the 100 meters in 10.9 seconds . He probably could run 40 yard in around between 4.9 - 5.1 seconds . 4.6 seconds looks difficult to do for 10.9 seconds to 100 meters .
Thats too close to fat old shaqs time

feyki
12-13-2015, 11:44 AM
Thats too close to fat old shaqs time

4.9

















5.8

at 40 yard dash .

That isn't even close .

Trollsmasher
12-13-2015, 11:47 AM
Cavs giving this board a bad name:facepalm

weak link

Jameerthefear
12-13-2015, 11:55 AM
If he ran the 100 meters in 10.9 seconds . He probably could run 40 yard in around between 4.9 - 5.1 seconds . 4.6 seconds looks difficult to do for 10.9 seconds to 100 meters .
he ran the 100 yard in 10.9
big difference.

also, cavs where's the second source for your 10.0 claim? just as i thought, you couldn't ****ing find one since it was made up

feyki
12-13-2015, 12:03 PM
he ran the 100 yard in 10.9
big difference.

also, cavs where's the second source for your 10.0 claim? just as i thought, you couldn't ****ing find one since it was made up

If he ran the 100 yard in 10.9 , he would run the 40 yard in 5.2 second .

If he ran the 100 meter in 10.9 , he would run the 40 yard in 4.8 second .

Marchesk
12-13-2015, 12:23 PM
If he ran the 100 yard in 10.9 , he would run the 40 yard in 5.2 second .

If he ran the 100 meter in 10.9 , he would run the 40 yard in 4.8 second .

Of course this assumes 10.9 was Wilt's top speed and not just the result of one race. That doesn't mean he ran faster for the 40, but it was not the same event.

feyki
12-13-2015, 02:08 PM
Of course this assumes 10.9 was Wilt's top speed and not just the result of one race. That doesn't mean he ran faster for the 40, but it was not the same event.

Yes , they are different event but i counted the "reaction time" .

jongib369
12-13-2015, 02:15 PM
4.9

















5.8

at 40 yard dash .

That isn't even close .
Misread Shaqs time lol

ShaqTwizzle
12-13-2015, 09:04 PM
Did he run that 40 time before or after he killed a pack of lions with his bare hands?

:lol

Jameerthefear
12-13-2015, 09:12 PM
I believe I also have newspaper articles that cite 10 flat I'll look when I get home from work.

Think about it Jam. You made a thread based on someone saying that 4.6 isn't possible because of 10.9 not being fast enough. The 4.6 was timed by a HOF pro football coach though. The 10.9 numbers were being cited as early as 1954 when Wilt was a teenager in high school.

So which is more likely. That the HOF pro football coach who worked Wilt out for weeks and weeks and marveled at his athleticism was wrong? Or that the 10.9 number is not actually Wilt at his fastest in 100 yards? Don't you think Stram would have timed him a couple of times just to make sure he was getting a good approximation of Wilt's speed before he'd tell anyone?

:hammerhead:
https://38.media.tumblr.com/05e2d3c47d0ffbe1804115ba3ee6c3b2/tumblr_inline_nik11oew4X1r81o8l.gif
It's been 2 days CuckFTW
WHERE THE **** THEY AT?

dubeta
12-13-2015, 09:17 PM
https://38.media.tumblr.com/05e2d3c47d0ffbe1804115ba3ee6c3b2/tumblr_inline_nik11oew4X1r81o8l.gif
It's been 2 days CuckFTW
WHERE THE **** THEY AT?


:lol :lol :lol :lol

TripleA
12-13-2015, 09:39 PM
The closet football player to Wilts size and stature is Shawn Oakman who ran his fastest 40 at 4.78. Oakman is 6'9 280 Wilt was 7'1 290. I think Wilt could run a 4.7 to 4.6.

CelticBaller
12-14-2015, 12:22 AM
"Look at me! I'm super popular on the internet!"
You're a ****ing joke :roll:
Lmao
Hold this L necro

Asukal
12-14-2015, 12:26 AM
https://38.media.tumblr.com/05e2d3c47d0ffbe1804115ba3ee6c3b2/tumblr_inline_nik11oew4X1r81o8l.gif
It's been 2 days CuckFTW
WHERE THE **** THEY AT?

Shhhh... cavsFTL still at work. :rolleyes:

scandisk_
12-14-2015, 12:55 AM
Big dudes gather speed/accelerate a bit slowly, and with that short distance, lol. 100M onwards well that's an entirely new different story. Nothing I've seen from Wilt's clips suggests that he can gather speed "that" quick. He's fast though no denying that. Plus hand timed... :oldlol:

Funktion
12-14-2015, 01:23 AM
Shhhh... cavsFTL still at work. :rolleyes:

48 hr shift. $$

LAZERUSS
12-14-2015, 09:25 AM
It constantly amazes me at how much Chamberlain is in the head of the "bashers." They will spend hours, days, weeks, and who knows how much longer, scouring the internet to find some minute, unresearched opinion that somehow counters to what virtually everyone else was claiming at the time.

Contrary to popular myth here, it was NOT Wilt that was coming up with these "tall tales", but rather his contemporaries...players, coaches, members of the media...hell, the FANS.

And where were those AT THE TIME who challenged these feats of strength, speed, and leaping ability? The internet is filled with page-after-page of unfathomable physical feats by Chamberlain, and yet, where are the articles AT THE TIME that disputed them?

Asukal
12-14-2015, 10:40 AM
It constantly amazes me at how much Chamberlain is in the head of the "bashers." They will spend hours, days, weeks, and who knows how much longer, scouring the internet to find some minute, unresearched opinion that somehow counters to what virtually everyone else was claiming at the time.

Contrary to popular myth here, it was NOT Wilt that was coming up with these "tall tales", but rather his contemporaries...players, coaches, members of the media...hell, the FANS.

And where were those AT THE TIME who challenged these feats of strength, speed, and leaping ability? The internet is filled with page-after-page of unfathomable physical feats by Chamberlain, and yet, where are the articles AT THE TIME that disputed them?

2 rings in a bush league. Let that sink in... :rolleyes:

iznogood
12-14-2015, 11:26 AM
It's funny how everybody is doubting Wilt's 40 time, yet nobody doubts that Curry can deadlift more than any other guy on his team. The evidence we've seen is the same.

AirFederer
12-14-2015, 12:11 PM
Was this the time he sat barefoot in a suit?

Wilt would toy with Bolt, ragdoll style.

Euroleague
12-14-2015, 06:02 PM
Serious question though for the Wilt mythologists.......

Was Wilt's "hand timed" 4.6 seconds 40 yard dash time, clocked while he was actually running away from that mountain lion that he supposedly "killed with his bare hands"?

Inquiring minds wants to know.

CelticBaller
12-14-2015, 06:34 PM
It's funny how everybody is doubting Wilt's 40 time, yet nobody doubts that Curry can deadlift more than any other guy on his team. The evidence we've seen is the same.
probably because curry doesn't claim he slept with a ridiculous amount of women or he killed a mountain lion bare handed

FultzNationRISE
04-13-2021, 02:40 AM
Was this thread why he switched his name to hippo anonymous??

RRR3
04-13-2021, 02:55 AM
Was this thread why he switched his name to hippo anonymous??
It’s because he doesn’t want people to know he’s a Cavs fan who hates LeBron. Because y know that doesn’t make any sense.

hiphopanonymous
04-13-2021, 08:18 AM
Neither of your theories is correct above me.

But this is a good opportunity to share this:

https://i.imgur.com/klv2iHs.jpg

Just to reiterate that if anyone wants to attack the data - they have to actually attack the testimony or sources given at that time. I find the sources, I share the sources, etc. Back in 2015 the Wilt Chamberlain critics here were ridiculous if you guys recall it was fun to hop on the "Wilt had a 22 inch vertical" bandwagon and there was barely any footage of him to show his athleticism so to take that kind of stance was a lazy and easy way to dismiss him from $tats and greatness conversations. Now a days this kind of criticism doesn't even make sense. Thanks to finding footage and finding testimony. It's smarter to try to dissect the way the game was played to argue about things like his stats but that takes a lot of effort which none of you that showed up in this thread have got the capacity for or you'd have done it. Insidehoops is like the toilet of the internet though so carry on :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt-eypvq4YE

Stanley Kobrick
04-13-2021, 08:24 AM
why is everyone bullying reddit Dan?

hiphopanonymous
04-13-2021, 09:23 AM
why is everyone bullying reddit Dan?
I think it's just human nature that it bothers some people who don't like you if you gain traction. But for an update, I actually followed up that post from 2015 a few years later and I must have remembered this thread trying to poke holes in it, so I posted the data as a far more detailed breakdown of each cited time, with information like the age he was when the times were taken so that people could have more context and try to see for themselves how or why some numbers were perhaps so different looking (many for example he was a 16-18 year and old probably under 230lbs - then years later closer to age 30 like his 40 taken by Hank Stram at 290lbs). I also threw in known times for other players.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6stnfm/collection_of_wilt_chamberlain_speed_stories/

And really this is just archive sharing - anyone trying to poke a hole in any of this really should understand it's just what was once put on paper or spoken by people as current news or buzz, and from there there's often even more layers of research that could be done if one wanted to get to the bottom of each one. A lot of people in different communities love diving into stuff like this but Insidehoops is a bit different. This place isn't a proactive or a constructive group, It's mostly just a reactive group that tries to be destructive. But I take even what was said here into consideration and say ok, some sour personalities wanted to dismiss the whole thing because more context wasn't shared. So that was actually an adjustment I made - and I moved on and continued to do my thing.

Manny98
04-13-2021, 09:34 AM
Wilt Stans are hilarious :oldlol:

Bronbron23
04-13-2021, 09:51 AM
Man the stupidity on this forum and subject is amazing. First of all a 4.6 equates to 11.2 not 11.8. Sure an 11.2 dosn't seem like much now but yall idiots have to put the shit in perspective. Wilt ran that in the 50's. Do you know what kind of tracks they ran on in the 50's? Cinder tracks made with hay and ashes and shit. Many studies have been done on how much slower those tracks were than the ones we have today

So let's look at the world records in the 1950 when wilt would have ran his. It was 10.2. Wilt ran a 11.2 which is 1 second difference from the fastest man in the world.

Now lets look at rhis generations fastest man Hussain bolt. He ran a 9.58. Now let's take someone like lebron who in all likelihood would run a 4.4 in the 40 yard dash. Guess what a 4.4 40 yard dash time equates to? 10.59 which is also a 1 second difference from the fastest man in the world.

Here's a video of Andre degrasse running in the same conditions and gear as owens. https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=10154395060056950&_rdr he routinely runs a sub 10 but he runs it in 11 seconds here.

The idiocy on this forum is absolutely mind blowing:facepalm

Bronbron23
04-13-2021, 10:06 AM
CavsFTW claims that Wilt ran a 4.6 40 yard dash. Redditor responds

And this doesn't even take into account that it was handtimed.. so it's probably closer to 5.1ish. CuckFTW exposed

The funny thing is the only ones who got exposed on this thread were op and and everyone who agreed with his dumb ass:oldlol:

MrFonzworth
10-06-2021, 06:06 PM
:yaohappy:

FultzNationRISE
10-06-2021, 06:09 PM
:yaohappy:

:yaohappy: