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dubeta
12-12-2015, 08:03 PM
Yet people here kept telling us he was a 24/12 player without LeBron :biggums:



Bosh went from averaging 16/7 on 54% as a 3rd option, to only a paltry 17/8 on 44% as arguably a 3rd option


He's getting 1 more point a game with 10% less efficiency without LeBron :roll:





The myth of LeBron Ball is dead



LeBron made Bosh better not worse

90sgoat
12-12-2015, 08:09 PM
Lebron took Bosh youth and trust.

He will never be the same:(

Didn't even pick up the phone to say goodbye.

Harsh.

WayOfWade
12-12-2015, 08:13 PM
I have faith in Dragic but not so much in Bosh. He really needs to pick it up to even remotely justify his ridiculous contract

dubeta
12-12-2015, 08:14 PM
Didn't even pick up the phone to say goodbye.

Harsh.


You could say the same about Jordan and his father

knicksman
12-12-2015, 08:26 PM
I agree OP. Only idiots think lebron ball cant win rings

Akrazotile
12-12-2015, 08:31 PM
I have faith in Dragic but not so much in Bosh. He really needs to pick it up to even remotely justify his ridiculous contract

Not gonna happen.

It's a team full of guys that are made and paid, and livin on South Beach.

Without an alpha taskmaster like Lebron there to keep everyone focused, theyre just goin thru the motions.

DaOldLion
12-12-2015, 08:34 PM
Lebron went from averaging 27 ppg on 57% FG in 2014 to averaging 25 ppg on 49% in 2015

in the 2014 playoffs Lebron averaged 27 ppg on 57%, but in the 2015 playoffs he averaged 30 ppg on 41% while taking an extra 10 shots per game to score 3 extra points.. His FG% dropped nearly 16% from the previous year

Looks like that Wade and Bosh made Lebron better

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

dubeta
12-12-2015, 08:35 PM
Lebron went from averaging 27 ppg on 57% FG in 2014 to averaging 25 ppg on 49% in 2015

in the 2014 playoffs Lebron averaged 27 ppg on 57% in the 2014 playoffs, but in the 2015 playoffs he averaged 30 ppg on 41% while taking an extra 10 shots per game to score 3 extra points.. His FG% dropped nearly 16% from the previous year

Looks like that Wade and Bosh made Lebron better

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:



What were Wade and Bosh's playoff stats last year? :confusedshrug:

DaOldLion
12-12-2015, 08:37 PM
What were Wade and Bosh's playoff stats last year? :confusedshrug:

do you realize that Bosh missed half the season with a life threatening injury?

What happened to Lebron without Wade and Bosh in the playoffs? Why did Lebron need ten extra shots to score a measly 3 more ppg? Why did Lebron's fg% drop 16 percent from 2014 to 2015?

Blue&Orange
12-12-2015, 08:47 PM
LeBron made Bosh better not worse


Bosh Before Lebron
24\11

Bosh with Lebron
16\7

Bosh After Lebron
17\8


1

SouBeachTalents
12-12-2015, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Bosh Before Lebron
24\11

Bosh with Lebron
16\7

Bosh After Lebron
17\8


1

FKAri
12-12-2015, 08:49 PM
do you realize that Bosh missed half the season with a life threatening injury?

What happened to Lebron without Wade and Bosh in the playoffs? Why did Lebron need ten extra shots to score a measly 3 more ppg? Why did Lebron's fg% drop 16 percent from 2014 to 2015?

Micropenis isn't life threatening

SpaceJam
12-12-2015, 08:50 PM
Similar to Bron's 2011 finals numbers :bowdown:

SouBeachTalents
12-12-2015, 08:51 PM
Similar to Bron's 2011 finals numbers :bowdown:

:roll:

ballinhun8
12-12-2015, 08:53 PM
You could say the same about Jordan and his father




Reported.

JT123
12-12-2015, 08:53 PM
Yet people here kept telling us he was a 24/12 player without LeBron :biggums:



Bosh went from averaging 16/7 on 54% as a 3rd option, to only a paltry 17/8 on 44% as arguably a 3rd option


He's getting 1 more point a game with 10% less efficiency without LeBron :roll:





The myth of LeBron Ball is dead



LeBron made Bosh better not worse
:applause: That's what happens when players can no longer feast on open looks due to Lebron being triple teamed all game

SpaceJam
12-12-2015, 08:57 PM
Yet people here kept telling us he was a 24/12 player without LeBron :biggums:

He was though? Well at least 23/10

Don't know how that is disputable the numbers are right there :biggums:

Blue&Orange
12-12-2015, 09:03 PM
This is seriously the dumbest argument. He went from 1st option to 3rd option, did you really expect him to average 24 ppg with LeBron AND Wade on his team?
The argument isn't dumb it's your comprehension or lack of it.

Makes arguments with numbers, decide numbers don't matter.

GrapeApe
12-12-2015, 09:10 PM
I'm not sure what OP's point is. Bosh's fg% is lower than normal, but 17/9 on 13 shots per game is pretty damn good. Some of the open looks he's missing will eventually start to drop. Overall he's played quite well. The Heat's issues over the past 3 games have been turnovers and defensive closeouts, not lack of production from Bosh or any Heat player in particular. Last night they were also without 2 key rotation players.

Lebronxrings
12-12-2015, 09:22 PM
i've been thinking this but it doesn't make sense.

How did bosh who was so good in toronto seem to get worse?

With lebron on the floor he did well, getting open looks and such.

People blame bron for bosh but he still is passive.

So why? Simple the answer is Wade. He ruined bosh and turned him into this. Hes the common denominator.

dubeta
12-12-2015, 09:26 PM
i've been thinking this but it doesn't make sense.

How did bosh who was so good in toronto seem to get worse?

With lebron on the floor he did well, getting open looks and such.

People blame bron for bosh but he still is passive.

So why? Simple the answer is Wade. He ruined bosh and turned him into this. Hes the common denominator.

:applause:


Agreed


Look at what happened to Bosh before/after Wade


Then look at how Wade ruined Star PG Goran Dragic


Deng was also an all-star a year before teaming up with Wade


:wtf:

SouBeachTalents
12-12-2015, 09:28 PM
i've been thinking this but it doesn't make sense.

How did bosh who was so good in toronto seem to get worse?

With lebron on the floor he did well, getting open looks and such.

People blame bron for bosh but he still is passive.

So why? Simple the answer is Wade. He ruined bosh and turned him into this. Hes the common denominator.

Wade's the common denominator for your username not being LeBron0rings

SpaceJam
12-12-2015, 09:30 PM
Wade's the common denominator for your username not being LeBron0rings

Forget that, Wade is the common denominator for LeBron's finals wins

LeBron hasn't won a finals game without Wade either on the court or in the arena (ie guest analysis like the 2 finals games last year) :roll:

dubeta
12-12-2015, 09:32 PM
Wade's the common denominator for your username not being LeBron0rings

You could argue Wade's also the common denominator for his username not being lebron4rings

Wade helped LeBron with 2 and then cost him 2, it evens out.

GrapeApe
12-12-2015, 09:39 PM
i've been thinking this but it doesn't make sense.

How did bosh who was so good in toronto seem to get worse?

With lebron on the floor he did well, getting open looks and such.

People blame bron for bosh but he still is passive.

So why? Simple the answer is Wade. He ruined bosh and turned him into this. Hes the common denominator.

What exactly did Wade turn him into? Bosh averaged 21 ppg last season as a second option. He's averaging 17/9 this season as a second option on a more balanced team. Even Wade's fga are down, the third lowest since his rookie year. Bosh is getting plenty of open looks. If you watched the Heat at all this year you'd know that. He's doing exactly what the Heat are asking him to do. I still don't understand the point of this thread.

nashwade
12-13-2015, 10:07 AM
i dunno, I thought NBA players age like everyone else?

Hey Yo
12-13-2015, 10:20 AM
Why did Bosh have more 3PA last season and so far this season, than he did playing with LeBron?

I was told James made Bosh go to the perimeter so the middle could be cleared out for himself to drive to the basket.

So who's making him stay out of the middle w/o James there?

Jameerthefear
12-13-2015, 11:11 AM
You could say the same about Jordan and his father
:roll:

oh the horror
12-13-2015, 12:46 PM
Lebronxrings and Dubeta posting in the same thread agreeing with one another like we all don't know it's the same damn person.



:oldlol:

GrapeApe
12-13-2015, 04:36 PM
Why did Bosh have more 3PA last season and so far this season, than he did playing with LeBron?

I was told James made Bosh go to the perimeter so the middle could be cleared out for himself to drive to the basket.

So who's making him stay out of the middle w/o James there?

The Heat lack 3 point shooting so Bosh is essentially filling a void. His biggest spike in 3PA actually happened from 2013 to 2014. As the game has evolved he's worked on extending his range and becoming a threat as a stretch 4. He's said as much. He's shooting a solid 37% from beyond the arc dating back to the start of last season.

pastis
12-13-2015, 04:44 PM
Bosh is just saving tactics for the playoffs

StephHamann
12-13-2015, 04:56 PM
Similar to Bron's 2011 finals numbers :bowdown:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

Gus Hemmingway
12-13-2015, 05:49 PM
You could say the same about Jordan and his father
omg:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

SexSymbol
12-13-2015, 06:04 PM
Micropenis isn't life threatening
Well you would know about that. Look at you, alive and probably healthy.

warriorfan
12-13-2015, 06:09 PM
Micropenis isn't life threatening

he said bosh not lebron