Who is the greater defender?

[72-10]

Greater defender, not better defender:

Ben Wallace or Dwight Howard?

Consider their career accolades

[feyki]

Ben Wallace .

[ProfessorMurder]

Ben Wallace. And KG was better than both.

[feyki]

Ben Wallace. And KG was better than both.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/p8kLX22GJiylyEB_VvqAPJxF0NFRFGcHKImGdo_BJeZA-5cud7JqZ1mtHeyyntfkO9HGop9-YrW7xJ9GE-v_gA6SeNqaNT4fEHyrKWjeuwIOrxRpUipnOVJXYetCQfN9Are4 dryKLLlI5Q6nTvX6xV4iE3clHQ=w275-h173-nc

[Jameerthefear]

howard

[72-10]

I'd put it like this

Dwight Howard
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett

maybe the three greatest defenders in the past decade with Duncan running a close fourth

Howard basically swept the DPOY voting every season

[ArbitraryWater]

Howard (easily?)

[Lebronxrings]

kg
howard
lebron
wallace

[feyki]

I'd put it like this

Dwight Howard
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett

maybe the three greatest defenders in the past decade with Duncan running a close fourth

Howard basically swept the DPOY voting every season

Duncan is the best defensive player of 2000's .

Marcus Camby better defensive player than Howard and Garnett to me . Ben Wallace had awesome three year stretch , probably better than Duncan at those days . But Duncan has 7-8 great defensive years , Ben just has 3 .

[swagga]

Duncan is the best defensive player of 2000's .

Marcus Camby better defensive player than Howard and Garnett to me . Ben Wallace had awesome three year stretch , probably better than Duncan at those days . But Duncan has 7-8 great defensive years , Ben just has 3 .

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

wtf did I just read doe.:wtf:

[GoatBoy]

Orlando howard was an absolute monster... ever since then tho :rolleyes:

[FKAri]

Orlando howard was an absolute monster... ever since then tho :rolleyes:

The system made him look better than he was. Only on the offensive end tho. His defense was always superb.

[feyki]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

wtf did I just read doe.:wtf:

Who didn't about anything Marcus Camby :confusedshrug:

[dhsilv]

Who didn't about anything Marcus Camby :confusedshrug:

The guy constantly gambling for blocked shots by jumping and getting out of possition....who could possible think that's bad defense even when it resulted in absurd block numbers.

[feyki]

The guy constantly gambling for blocked shots by jumping and getting out of possition....who could possible think that's bad defense even when it resulted in absurd block numbers.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&per_minute_base=36&type=per_poss&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2000&year_max=2008&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=def_rtg&order_by_asc=Y

[1987_Lakers]

Duncan is the best defensive player of 2000's .

Marcus Camby better defensive player than Howard and Garnett to me . Ben Wallace had awesome three year stretch , probably better than Duncan at those days . But Duncan has 7-8 great defensive years , Ben just has 3 .
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You just went full retard.

[feyki]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You just went full retard.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&per_minute_base=36&type=per_poss&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2000&year_max=2008&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=def_rtg&order_by_asc=Y

[Fallen Angel]

Ben Wallace for his man defense
Dwight Howard for his shot blocking and ability to scare defenders driving to the basket

I'd take Howard on my team

[Gus Hemmingway]

Duncan

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&per_minute_base=36&type=per_poss&per_poss_base=100&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2000&year_max=2008&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&birth_state=&college_id=&draft_year=&is_active=&debut_yr_nba_start=&debut_yr_nba_end=&debut_yr_aba_start=&debut_yr_aba_end=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&award=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=30&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=def_rtg&order_by_asc=Y

Please stop.

That list has Chris Webber ahead of Dwight Howard & Scottie Pippen.

[feyki]

Please stop.

That list has Chris Webber ahead of Dwight Howard & Scottie Pippen.

Cause Webber better defensive player than Pippen and Howard at between 2000-2008 , my mindless brother .

Howard has four year stretch with 95 drtg . But ;

Camby's 9 years with 96 drtg > Howard's 4 years with 95 drtg .

[1987_Lakers]

Cause Webber better defensive player than Pippen and Howard at between 2000-2008 , my mindless brother .

Howard has four year stretch with 95 drtg . But ;

Camby's 9 years with 96 drtg > Howard's 4 years with 95 drtg .

So Chris Webber was a top 15 defender from 2000-2008?:oldlol:

[feyki]

So Chris Webber was a top 15 defender from 2000-2008?:oldlol:

Wasn't he ?

[1987_Lakers]

Wasn't he ?

What an idiot.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=823051

[feyki]

What an idiot.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=823051

I'm illuminated . Awesome analytics .

[DaOldLion]

Wallace easily

[72-10]

Please stop.

That list has Chris Webber ahead of Dwight Howard & Scottie Pippen.

lmao you are a funny guy

[72-10]

Wallace easily

:confusedshrug: how is this easy? Their dominance was a very similar stretch of time and Howard swept the DPOY voting.

[72-10]

Cause Webber better defensive player than Pippen and Howard at between 2000-2008 , my mindless brother .

Howard has four year stretch with 95 drtg . But ;

Camby's 9 years with 96 drtg > Howard's 4 years with 95 drtg .

I really don't think advanced metrics apply much to basketball, only baseball.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Big Ben.

And speaking of KG and Timmy... They're the two best defensive PF's of all-time, followed by Bobby Jones (considering Rodman as more of a SF, at his best, on the defensive end).

[fsvr54]

KG is the best, he could rally the entire team defensively.